Discussion: FARGO on FX @10pm Update: Season 5 w/ John Hamm

LOVED Six Feet

it went off the rails a little in the end...

but it is WORTH it for the resolution of the entire series and there is some acting on there...

real talk some of the BEST in ALL of HBO

and that is saying something.

I would DEFINITELY rewatch that, let me know if you starting a rewatch thread.



Yeah - hell of a cast and some wild storylines. I don't think I'd do a rewatch thread though as it's a bit dated (2001 - 2005) and I'm slow with these series. Still working on season 1 of Peaky Blinders, haha. Others checked it out in 2013. On a pure comedy note ... I'm glancing at the On Demand indexes for HBO and Showtime and my brain's like - "Yeah, I want to see 80% of these 200+ shows. How the fuck am I ever gonna get around to these?"

I think I'll have them all watched by the year 4020.



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Yeah - hell of a cast and some wild storylines. I don't think I'd do a rewatch thread though as it's a bit dated (2001 - 2005) and I'm slow with these series. Still working on season 1 of Peaky Blinders, haha. Others checked it out in 2013. On a pure comedy note ... I'm glancing at the On Demand indexes for HBO and Showtime and my brain's like - "Yeah, I want to see 80% of these 200+ shows. How the fuck am I ever gonna get around to these?"

I think I'll have them all watched by the year 4020.



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TOO MUCH STUFF!!!!!!

OK never seen it but I KNOW I will like Peaky Binders cause I am a HUGE FAN of UK stuff

but its just TOO MUCH content

and honestly some stuff doesn't TRANSLATE WELL to the binge

Pennyworth is a action movie every week so its OK, but stuff like FARGO Westworld?

Not so much

Even Narcos, I like too FOCUS on that.

and now during the pandemic I am making a serious effort to watch FAMILY stuff

So it British Baking Master Chef Jr etc etc

Masked Singer, Weakest Link Madalarian...

But it is NOT easy

even Stargirl on the CW?

first 5 minutes?

explosion killing body parts.
 
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TOO MUCH STUFF!!!!!!

OK never seen it butI KNOW I will like Peaky Binders cause I am a HUGE FAN of UK stuff

but its just TOO MUCH content

and honestly some stuff doesn't TRANSLATE WELL to the binge

Pennyworth is a action movie every week so its OK, but stuff like FARGO Westworld?

Not so much

Even Narcos, I like too FOCUS on that.

and now during the pandemic I am making a serious effort to watch FAMILY stuff

So it British Baking Master Chef Jr etc etc

Masked Singer, Weakest Link Madalarian...

But it is NOT easy

even Stargirl on the CW?

first 5 minutes?

explosion killing body parts.




Agreed. It's a complete smorgasbord / cereal aisle of content and choices these days. Incredible amount of stuff.

Peaky Blinders is solid, man. Just been doing 1 episode a week so far. 6 episodes per season.

Coworker recommended it. Jokingly noted earlier this year he didn't know what it was, and always thought the title meant some kind of kids' show. Turns out it's gangsters 100 years ago. He said he binged it quickly during the summer. His recent recommendation = The Queen's Gambit which everyone's been talking about. Added that one to the To See List too.
 
Wait hold y'all just now fucking with Fargo. The Bokeem Woodbine season is a classic,as a matter of fact all are dope
 
Chris Rock explains why he turned down 'a couple offers' to be on The Sopranos

The comedian and actor almost said no to FX's Fargo for the same reason.
By Marcus Jones
June 16, 2021 at 02:56 PM EDT

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Chris Rock almost didn't star on FX's Fargo season 4 because "sometimes you can respect something so much, you don't even want to be a part of it," he told The Hollywood Reporter, and that same sentiment that actually kept him from ever appearing on HBO's The Sopranos.
The comedian gave the revelation during the 2021 THR Drama Actor Roundtable, which included Bridgerton's Regé-Jean Page, The Crown's Josh O'Connor, Lovecraft Country's Jonathan Majors, Small Axe's John Boyega, and moderator Lacey Rose, that while The Chris Rock Show was still on HBO, "I got a couple of offers to be on The Sopranos, and I was like, 'I like it too much, I don't want to spoil it.'"

(L-R) Chris Rock in 'Fargo;' James Gandolfini in 'The Sopranos'

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So what made the Fargo offer from creator Noah Hawley any different?
"I saw how he handled Bokeem Woodbine," said Rock, referencing the Dead Presidents actor's Emmy-nominated turn as Mike Milligan in season 2 of the FX anthology series. "Sometimes people do amazing work and then when they handle Black people, it's horrible. But with [Hawley], I saw how he handled Bokeem and I was like, 'I can totally be in your hands.'"

Bringing things full circle, Rock previously told EW his Fargo character Loy Cannon was "Tony Soprano-esque," meaning the show allowed him to actually play the crime boss rather than guest star opposite one.
 

Frances McDormand, Steve Buscemi, and Joel Coen reunite to reflect on 25 years of Fargo

By Jessica Derschowitz
June 19, 2021 at 02:15 PM EDT

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On a warm Friday night in June, an audience gathered at New York's Pier 76 for a 25th anniversary screening of Fargo at the Tribeca Festival. But most of those audience members weren't also in the movie.
Steve Buscemi, one of the stars of the 1996 award-winning film - about a small-time Minnesota car salesman who hires two local thugs to kidnap his wife for ransom, and then sees those plans go horribly awry - tuned in for the movie until he had to step away for the post-screening discussion. "I've seen it since [it was released], but it's been a while," he said later. "It was great - it looks great, it sounds great."
Buscemi was joined for that conversation by Frances McDormand, who played chipper and persistent local police chief Marge Gunderson (the role that won McDormand her first Oscar), and director/co-writer Joel Coen (who won the Oscar for Best Original Screenplay with his brother and collaborator, Ethan Coen).
The panel, part of Tribeca's 2021 reunions series presented by Entertainment Weekly, touched on topics including how the script came together, the surprising afterlife for the film's infamous woodchipper, and the "surreal" encounter Buscemi had with a police officer while they were filming.

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Here are some of the highlights from their conversation:
The Coens had to take a monthslong break from writing the script before figuring out how to finish it.
Speaking with writer Mark Harris, who moderated the talk, Coen said that when he and Ethan would write together, they wouldn't necessarily know where they wanted to story to go next. "[It] would sort of reveal itself as we were working on the script," he explained. When it came to Fargo, they had to put the script "in a drawer" around the point in the film where Shep Proudfoot (Steve Reevis) beats up Buscemi's Carl Showalter. "It sat there for probably four or five months and we didn't think about it," Coen added, "and then we came back and finished it."
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Buscemi and McDormand's parts were written specifically for them - but William H. Macy originally auditioned for a different role.
Buscemi recalled Coen telling him about Fargo around the time they made 1991's Barton Fink. "He said, 'Your character is gonna be a very good-looking guy,'" he joked, referring to the numerous characters who describe Carl as "funny looking" in a "general kind of way" throughout the film.

Marge, the moral counterbalance to all the greed and deception in the movie, was written for McDormand (who said it was important to her that her character was good at her job). So was Peter Stormare's mostly silent but very deadly Gaear Grimsrud - Coen said Stormare wrote him and his brother a letter asking to be considered if they ever needed a Swedish actor. They wrote the part of "The Swede" for him in Miller's Crossing, which he ultimately couldn't fit into his schedule, but the brothers then remembered him when it came time for Fargo.
But William H. Macy, who played the inept criminal mastermind Jerry Lundergaard, initially auditioned for the role of Stan Grossman, the accountant who works for Jerry's father-in-law. But during his audition, Macy asked to read for the role of Jerry. Coen said they had initially envisioned Jerry very differently - as someone who was "a little overweight and uncomfortable in his body, a little slovenly" - but that they let Macy read for it anyway, and the rest is history. "We thought, you're right, you should play that part … that's a better version of what we'd dreamt up. He kind of, in a strange way, wrote the character for himself."
How the Mike Yanagita scene came about.
One of the movie's most unforgettable but arguably most perplexing scenes is when Marge goes to Minneapolis to see a former classmate after he calls her out of the blue. The ensuing meet-up, in which Mike Yanagita (Steve Park) awkwardly hits on her, breaks into tears, and lies about a dead spouse, has nothing to do with the crimes at the center of Fargo, but it's impossible to imagine the film without it. (You can read much more about that scene here.)
Coen said the scene came about because they wanted to see Marge in a different situation, reacting in a completely different way, and encountering someone who, as she and the audience later learn, was not being honest with her. (McDormand also noted that an earlier version of the script had her going to Minneapolis for a very different reason: A friend invited her to an anti-abortion protest.)
But, speaking generally about how Fargo unfolds and how this scene fits in, Coen said that they didn't think the script needed to strictly chase the central story. "I felt that we had the license to make that kind of left turn."



Steve Buscemi had a real run-in with a Minnesota cop
In a very strange (but less murdery) instance of life imitating art, Buscemi told the crowd that the day after he and Stormare filmed the scene when Stormare's character kills a state trooper, the two were going out to breakfast when they got pulled over by a policewoman. "It was so surreal, because she said 'license and registration,' and I looked at Peter and was like, 'nothing's gonna happen, right?'"
Buscemi ultimately talked his way out of a ticket, and said he's always wondered if that woman ever saw the movie and recognized them.
About the Paul Bunyan statue….and the woodchipper.
Two of the Fargo's most famous props got lives of their own outside the movie, according to McDormand and Coen. As the actress explained, the Bunyan statue was erected in the middle of sugar beet fields in North Dakota, where there was nothing else around for miles. After a few nights of shooting, the cast and crew realized that cars were starting to pull in and park on the side of the highway. "We finally realized that people were bringing their kids out before bed to see the statue. All these families would come and they park and all the kids would be in their pajamas and they just they just sit in their car and look at the statue," she said. "That's how little there is to do in North Dakota."
McDormand also gave Coen this prompt: "Tell them about the woodchipper."
The woodchipper, of course, is how Gaear disposes of Carl's body after killing him. But it now has a starring role in a Minnesota town's annual July 4th celebrations. As Coen tells it, one of the grips who worked on Fargo and some of their other films told him a few years later that he brought the woodchipper back home to the small town of Delano, Minn., and that they - yes, you betcha - bring it out during their Fourth of July parade every year.
 
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Allison Tolman calls for writers to stop making jokes about weight in scripts: 'I promise they aren't funny'

The Fargo and Why Women Kill star also suggests "removing body descriptors from your scripts altogether, including character descriptions and the names of minor roles."

By Lauren HuffJanuary 18, 2022 at 09:21 PM EST




Allison Tolman is urging Hollywood to do better when it comes to jokes about weight.

The Fargo and Why Women Kill star took to Twitter on Tuesday to call on writers and showrunners to stop using the jokes in scripts altogether, writing, "Writers and showrunners- take the jokes about weight out of your scripts. I promise they aren't funny. And even if they were, they won't hold up well. And even if they did, they're unkind-either to your characters and actors or someone in your audience or crew. It's not worth it."
According to Tolman, examples of things that need to be excluded include mentions of "the numbers on a scale, what someone eats, what size their clothing is, exercise and movement." She also suggests "removing body descriptors from your scripts altogether, including character descriptions and the names of minor roles."

She explains: "I'm not saying you shouldn't use adjectives. But please don't say 'Linda- the main character's cousin, thin and witty' unless there's an actual reason Linda needs to be thin. And please don't say 'Fat Lady In Theater' when you mean 'Annoying Lady In Theater.' "

See the full thread below.



EW has reached out to Tolman's rep for further comment. Her remarks come on the heels of Yellowjackets star Melanie Lynskey's recent revelation in a Rolling Stone interview that a member of that show's production body-shamed her on set. "They were asking me, 'What do you plan to do? I'm sure the producers will get you a trainer. They'd love to help you with this,' " Lynskey recalled in the story.

"It was really important to me for [Lynskey's character, Shauna] to not ever comment on my body, to not have me putting a dress on and being like, 'I wish I looked a bit better,' " the actress also said. "I did find it important that this character is just comfortable and sexual and not thinking or talking about it, because I want women to be able to watch it and be like, 'Wow, she looks like me and nobody's saying she's the fat one.' That representation is important."
 



 
Been telling my brother to get into the series. He really enjoyed the movie back in the day, and is familiar with Calgary ^


He's got friends and an ex-gf who live there, and he'd probably recognize some of the locations they filmed at previously, and/or will for the upcoming season.
 




Damn right
 
Just started yesterday. Got 2 episodes into theadt season.....

First off that opening sequence of episode 1....... lawd, that shit set a tone!! After that, I knew this was gonna be a ride. So far so good.....just gotta find the time to binge through the rest


Nice. Glad you are liking it so far. Like any season, some of the characters can be hit and miss. It’ll take a minute to be fully familiar with who’s who in a relatively big cast. But it plays out well throughout the season. The way it’s shot and cinematography are always on point too.


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Yeah - hell of a cast and some wild storylines. I don't think I'd do a rewatch thread though as it's a bit dated (2001 - 2005) and I'm slow with these series. Still working on season 1 of Peaky Blinders, haha. Others checked it out in 2013.



It was a good watch. We checked out seasons 1 - 5 over the course of about 6 months. Seasons are only 6 episodes apiece, so 30 episodes total (for seasons 1 - 5), then the last season of an additional 6 eps.


Then we were able to watch the final season in real-time when it aired in recent months. Final season wasn't the strongest, but overall the series finale delivered. Thought they wrapped things up appropriately, all things considered.
 
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