Denzel Washington: Don't blame the prison system, 'It starts at the home'

[Nzinga]

I have said before, that you give this bugger, Denzel Washington
too much credit.... Tone Talks is an objective and factual person,
who is also analytical, and speaks at a reasoning level above that
of people like Denzel Washington...

While we are on this subject, we need to call in Barack Obama
who attempted to patronise black people the same way. Jesse
Jackson and others took immediate umbrage, which seems to
have quelled the desire by Obama to spew condescension on
the black family. Mind you, this is the same Obama who has
publicly declared how much of a great father he is. Of course
in the strict definition of the word, he has failed because his
daughter, Malia, has committed multiple, jailable, crimes in
public, where she has been defiantly photographed smoking
pot. Whether you think that that is irrelevant, many people
in jail for just that reason....

 

[(0_0)..l.. finger]

I agree with Denzel Washington. Having a Good Father and Father figure is very important. The environment is also important though.

 

[oolong tea]

No. He is absolutely right. Immigrants of African descent tend to stray away from petty crime. But families can be an absolute mess. Thus, his statement. The environment also plays its part.

Most of my ongoing vices come from my formative years. Folks adopt habits from elder family figures too. Failing to set the right example around impressionable children kicks you in the back in their adolescence.

Nowadays, no one wants to take blame for anything. Skirt around responsibilities with stats and case studies. Some folks need jail despite their upbringing.

But our problems stem from home.

And nonblack posters, please don't rationalize black sensibilities.

 

[oolong tea]

I have said before, that you give this bugger, Denzel Washington
too much credit.... Tone Talks is an objective and factual person,
who is also analytical, and speaks at a reasoning level above that
of people like Denzel Washington...

While we are on this subject, we need to call in Barack Obama
who attempted to patronise black people the same way. Jesse
Jackson and others took immediate umbrage, which seems to
have quelled the desire by Obama to spew condescension on
the black family. Mind you, this is the same Obama who has
publicly declared how much of a great father he is. Of course
in the strict definition of the word, he has failed because his
daughter, Malia, has committed multiple, jailable, crimes in
public, where she has been defiantly photographed smoking
pot. Whether you think that that is irrelevant, many people
in jail for just that reason....

Lol. Someone needed a shameful offense. Eight years and not one scandal? From Chi town? Nah, Malia gon rep her fam. Smoking weed, big whoop. Probably seen Dad smoke a 1000 times. Celebrity types tend to have twisted kids due to awkward parenting. You can concur Densel's point. It starts where?

 

[Nzinga]

You can concur Densel's point. It starts where?

Brilliant logic..ahahahahahahahaha... I do not
agree with you but I cannot argue with the
soundess of your logic either; hahahahahahahahaha

 

[roots69]

I'm defending a person from a response meant to shut up different thoughts. You're really ok with people being told they shouldn't voice their opinion and particularly valid or well thought out opinions because they are entertainers or lay persons on the topic of focus? Just to be clear, I agree with the sentiment, that part of the reason people end up on a path to prison is sometimes because of the environment at home. However, I also agree that the deck is and has been stacked against black people, and that the prison industrial complex/mass incarceration is part of that stacked deck, which has a major part in those disfunctional environments. Those views are not mutually exclusive.

Bruh, I dig what your saying..

 

[nate1477]

Bruh, I dig what your saying..

having a dad in the house protects me from white supremacy? damn Denzel, thanks. That shit was genius. Wait...Martin Luther King, Heuy P Newton, Malcolm X, Jesse Jackson, Muhammad Ali, James Brown, Dick Gregory, etc have all went to jail, but had fathers or strong males figures in their lives. So, now I'm confused as to what the fuck you are talking about.

 

[Day_Carver]

It pains me to say it but he's got a point.
Everything starts with you. EspeciAlly in a country where the black man is a target.

The system in place is not advantageous towards black people and beyond your control.However you can control yourself.

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Everything always starts with the person; That does not negate the racial systems that have been setup and still exist in this country; that are designed to control, hinder, hurt, destroy, damage, etc etc etc black people.....

 

[Entrepronegro]

The problem is the system of racism/white supremacy!!!

stop typing in bold letters so much. we can see what you write without using the bold letters.

 

[Osca Lee]

I have seen many grow up in homes with both parents that followed the rules of raising children and some children just don't turn out the way others children turn out.

I will say it again black hollywood does not share your experiences as black people. Denzel and the rest of them sit in silence when shit pop off but will be the first on tv to point fingers at us or promote a movie.

 

[roots69]

I have seen many grow up in homes with both parents that followed the rules of raising children and some children just don't turn out the way others children turn out.

I will say it again black hollywood does not share your experiences as black people. Denzel and the rest of them sit in silence when shit pop off but will be the first on tv to point fingers at us or promote a movie.

Well said!! Peer pressure is a BITCH!!!

And your spot on, hollywood sellouts are so far removed from the average copper color person!! All those in the entertainment industry are bought and paid for, when their number is called they will show up and read whatever on the script if they believe or not!!

 

[hardawayz16]

I will say it again black hollywood does not share your experiences as black people.

What about all the non-hollywood blacks that share your experiences and also share a similar opinion as Denzel?

 

[Osca Lee]

What about all the non-hollywood blacks that share your experiences and also share a similar opinion as Denzel?

What about them? Unless they are on that level or above sharing his opinion doesn't make any sense.

Ask the lawyers, judges, professesors and those who thought titles would excuse them from systematic racism and oppression.

 

[Osca Lee]

Also...is it just me bust denzel and few other black actors been in the game long enough to own a section in the movie game.

I only see the kids and family members of those benefiting.

I see roles his kids are in that could have gone to better up and coming actors on the street.

But soul contracts have been signed and fulfilled. If you dig deep you will understand what I'm talking about

 

[LordSinister]

He's partially right, but the system needs inmates and they will create them regardless of how good of a person you are.

 

[hardawayz16]

He's partially right, but the system needs inmates and they will create them regardless of how good of a person you are.

So what are you saying? The system will just grab square law abiding citizens off the street and throw them in jail without due process because they "need inmates"? In 2017 and beyond?

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

So what are you saying? The system will just grab square law abiding citizens off the street and throw them in jail without due process because they "need inmates"? In 2017 and beyond?

Yes they will but even if you do not do a crime you are still programmed according to your genes. It is strange that all these whites and white organizations do major crimes that make a serial killer look like a good person but they get rewarded right in our face instead of going to jail or prison.
A run away slave would be considered a terrorist to a plantation owner. But to the slaves that have to work the fields like a horse or mule he is a free fighter.

 

[hardawayz16]

Yes they will but even if you do not do a crime you are still programmed according to your genes. It is strange that all these whites and white organizations do major crimes that make a serial killer look like a good person but they get rewarded right in our face instead of going to jail or prison.
A run away slave would be considered a terrorist to a plantation owner. But to the slaves that have to work the fields like a horse or mule he is a free fighter.

Or...

Or.....




Or....


Maybe they'll just cast their white wizardry spell on us that will make us commit a crime then turn ourselves in! Those damn warlock whites!

In fact...thats probably what they are doing in Antartica!

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

Or...

Or.....




Or....


Maybe they'll just cast their white wizardry spell on us that will make us commit a crime then turn ourselves in! Those damn warlock whites!

In fact...thats probably what they are doing in Antartica!

We had a grand wizard (David Dukes) is doing miracles for white supremacy so is the rest of these great white devils. Men like Bush are praised for their war crimes. So of us may complain but they got richer and more powerful. There is not argument even from men like the Pope that the world is in Satan's hand. But the Pope will never admit that he works for Satan (white power)

 

[hardawayz16]

We had a grand wizard (David Dukes) is doing miracles for white supremacy so is the rest of these great white devils. Men like Bush are praised for their war crimes. So of us may complain but they got richer and more powerful. There is not argument even from men like the Pope that the world is in Satan's hand. But the Pope will never admit that he works for Satan (white power)

Maybe he works for the evil warlocks who cast spells on black people from Antartica making us all degenerate lowlife criminals . Our only hope is the elves!

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

Maybe he works for the evil warlocks who cast spells on black people from Antartica making us all degenerate lowlife criminals . Our only hope is the elves!

You sound like a white person but people do what they are programmed to do not what they want to do. This can be proven. But right now while cool calm collective controls the masses they do not know that their genes are programmed. One of the man reasons why we should never trust any white. Their represent falsehood weather they know it or not. Why do you think so called good people are controlled by the ones that determined to destroy the world. Only a black messiah can save the world right now. We have always been hated for being a real man while things about other people are hid.

 

[hardawayz16]

You sound like a white person but people do what they are programmed to do not what they want to do. This can be proven. But right now while cool calm collective controls the masses they do not know that their genes are programmed. One of the man reasons why we should never trust any white. Their represent falsehood weather they know it or not. Why do you think so called good people are controlled by the ones that determined to destroy the world. Only a black messiah can save the world right now. We have always been hated for being a real man while things about other people are hid.

Sorry!!!

I've been fighting off the white wizard spell and and I'm very weak!

Please send word to the elves and the black messiah - we have to reverse this spell or I'm doomed!!!!!

 

[Famous1]

So, how did our homes get broken?

 

[BigATLslim]

Denzel said "everything" and "nothing" simultaneously...

...yet we 4 pages deep.

Glean the truth and put that to work.

true


and that is the real reason racism still exists

self-education

you can't create a strategy for something you don't understand

BOOM!

 

[respiration]

Denzel was wrong. Period.

He wasn't right and wrong at the same time. He wasn't correct but only giving one side. He was wrong. Period.

He was asked what he thought about the Prison-industrial complex. What he said had nothing at all to do with the PIC. He probably doesn't even know what it is.

I believe this to be an apt definition:

What Is the Prison Industrial Complex?
The Prison Industrial Complex (PIC) is a term used to describe the overlapping interests of government and industry that use surveillance, policing and imprisonment as solutions to economic, social and political problems. (1)


The Prison Industrial Complex is not just prisons themselves, it is mutually reinforcing web of relationships, between and not limited to, for example, prisons, the probation service, the police, the courts, all the companies that profit from transporting, feeding and exploiting prisoners, and so forth.

http://www.prisonabolition.org/what-is-the-prison-industrial-complex/

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Good parenting has NOTHING to do with that.

 

[ORIGINAL NATION]

So, how did our homes get broken?

When whites were grafted from us.

 

[tajshan]

Denzel was wrong. Period.

He wasn't right and wrong at the same time. He wasn't correct but only giving one side. He was wrong. Period.

He was asked what he thought about the Prison-industrial complex. What he said had nothing at all to do with the PIC. He probably doesn't even know what it is.

I believe this to be an apt definition:

What Is the Prison Industrial Complex?
The Prison Industrial Complex (PIC) is a term used to describe the overlapping interests of government and industry that use surveillance, policing and imprisonment as solutions to economic, social and political problems. (1)


The Prison Industrial Complex is not just prisons themselves, it is mutually reinforcing web of relationships, between and not limited to, for example, prisons, the probation service, the police, the courts, all the companies that profit from transporting, feeding and exploiting prisoners, and so forth.

http://www.prisonabolition.org/what-is-the-prison-industrial-complex/

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Good parenting has NOTHING to do with that.

don't forget, late last year I believe, where a CEO contacted a government official in Mississippi complaining that the prison was loosing due to a shortage of inmates........

 

[Mr. Met]

No ambiguity here. This nigga is completely detached.