Democrats Block Senate Stimulus Bill After Negotiations Falter - which side you fall on in this issue NO FENCE SITTING!!

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Details: The deal — as it stands currently — dedicates $250 billion to go directly to Americans. Many individuals will receive $1,200 direct deposits, along with an additional $500 for each child. A family of four would receive $3,000. That money begins to phase out for Americans making more than $75,000 per year.

  • The package allots $350 billion to small businesses to help keep workers on payroll. Mnuchin said this morning that these "small business retention loans" will be forgiven.
  • The deal offers 39 weeks of unemployment insurance to eligible workers, retroactive to Jan. 27.
  • It also includes $242 billion for public safety net programs, including more money for SNAP, child nutrition and the Centers for Disease Control. Hospitals will get roughly $110 billion, according to Mnuchin.
  • The original Phase 3 bill text called for $208 billion in loans to airlines and other industries, which would have to be repaid. This number may still change.

The latest: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell led a meeting this morning with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy to hammer out the sticking points.

  • But Democrats left the meeting protesting that the bill is a corporate slush fund that doesn't do enough to protect workers from layoffs, gives the Treasury too much power to make its own decisions, and doesn't provide any money for state and local governments, among other complaints.
  • McConnell then pushed a 3pm vote on a motion to proceed — which requires 60 votes — to 6pm, giving the two sides more time to negotiate.
  • After a series of additional talks, the cloture vote failed along party lines 47-47, forcing the group back to the negotiating table.





It would include, according to the summary:

  • Direct payments to individuals of $1,500 and up to $7,500 for a family of five.
  • No cost-sharing for coronavirus vaccines and treatments, including for the uninsured.
  • Expanded access to paid family and medical leave.
  • $500 billion in grants and interest-free loans to small businesses.
  • Strengthened unemployment insurance, with $600 per week for people affected by coronavirus and eligible for unemployment benefits.
  • $150 billion in funding for hospitals, community health centers and government health programs.
  • $60 billion in funding for schools and universities along with student debt relief.
  • More funding for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program and other food assistance programs.
  • $4 billion in state election grants and a national requirement for 15 days of early voting and no-excuse absentee voting as fears grow about coronavirus spreading at crowded polling sites.
The legislation may serve more as a statement of principles for Democrats: Senate Republicans already supported a law to expand paid leave and unemployment insurance that originated with Democrats over the objections of many GOP members. Still, it underscores the gulf between the professed priorities of both parties as workers and companies desperately seek relief.

The Pelosi legislation appears to have many of the same goals as the Senate plan, but it remains to be seen how differently the packages are structured.



so for those caping for trump and the right...for those carping about tangibles....whats up??
 
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Details: The deal — as it stands currently — dedicates $250 billion to go directly to Americans. Many individuals will receive $1,200 direct deposits, along with an additional $500 for each child. A family of four would receive $3,000. That money begins to phase out for Americans making more than $75,000 per year.

  • The package allots $350 billion to small businesses to help keep workers on payroll. Mnuchin said this morning that these "small business retention loans" will be forgiven.
  • The deal offers 39 weeks of unemployment insurance to eligible workers, retroactive to Jan. 27.
  • It also includes $242 billion for public safety net programs, including more money for SNAP, child nutrition and the Centers for Disease Control. Hospitals will get roughly $110 billion, according to Mnuchin.
  • The original Phase 3 bill text called for $208 billion in loans to airlines and other industries, which would have to be repaid. This number may still change.

The latest: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell led a meeting this morning with Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin, Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy to hammer out the sticking points.

  • But Democrats left the meeting protesting that the bill is a corporate slush fund that doesn't do enough to protect workers from layoffs, gives the Treasury too much power to make its own decisions, and doesn't provide any money for state and local governments, among other complaints.
  • McConnell then pushed a 3pm vote on a motion to proceed — which requires 60 votes — to 6pm, giving the two sides more time to negotiate.
  • After a series of additional talks, the cloture vote failed along party lines 47-47, forcing the group back to the negotiating table.






so for those caping for trump and the right...for those carping about tangibles....whats up??


You know why.. this didn't pass...

Cause people in my situation wouldn't have gotten anything...

Also what's the point of getting 1200.. if you still have to pay 1200 in student loan debt.

It focuses on Small Businesses.. but not much for Self employed people..

So yeah.. I agree with the Dems.... Shit focuses on Corporations and not much for regular people..

Repubs trying to sweep some slick shit into this package and rush it through knowing that the Dems were going to object.. and allow the Repubs to do exactly what they are doing now.. .Change the narrative and kats up here falling for it. That's cause Repubs know that they have fucked this thing to all high heaven and now they can say..."DEMSCOSTLIVES"... when November hits.

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I need 3gs....1200 is what you should get per child or something

1200 isn't shit..... Especially with Rent, Student loans, Child Support (for some kats)... Utilities.. Car notes..... Taxes...

This helps Corporations..... but how are they going to survive if regular folks don't have money to buy shit. The only people buying are the rich..

Repubs aren't slick fam..

They are not slick...

They knew this shit wouldn't pass... This is a political shame show.. to get people tweet and makes threads blaming the Dems.. because "GASP" they want the law to include shit that effects the issues of real people... Like Student loan relief when this is over.
 
So we can expect a twitterstorm from our Idiot-in-Chief tonight and he will use his PC tomorrow to blast the Dems...Joe Biden needs to be holding a press conference right after him at this point...sort of like a response to the State of the Union..

This was all planned ... it is exactly what Trump is going to do.. because his base is slowing turning on him and he needs to change the narrative quick..

If you go on Twitter.. the Repub "Russian" Bots have already started..

Talking about the importance of Keeping the Corporations afloat instead of a handout to the little guy

and these idiots are retweeting this shit..

The same people that Bitched at Obama for bailing out the Private sector... Man we are living in Wild times.
 
1200 isn't shit..... Especially with Rent, Student loans, Child Support (for some kats)... Utilities.. Car notes..... Taxes...

This helps Corporations..... but how are they going to survive if regular folks don't have money to buy shit. The only people buying are the rich..

Repubs aren't slick fam..

They are not slick...

They knew this shit wouldn't pass... This is a political shame show.. to get people tweet and makes threads blaming the Dems.. because "GASP" they want the law to include shit that effects the issues of real people... Like Student loan relief when this is over.

And all that shit need to be suspended probably not utilities but the rent/mortgage/ student loans need to fuck off for a while....desperate times call for desperate measures
 
If you look at the headlines and on Twitter. The headlines reads “Democrats Block Stimulus Bill”


Now if the democrats knew how to use propaganda they can say the GOP are trying to scam us by giving corporations Billions with no strings attached!

But mother fuckers on IG and social media all they care about is there $1200 check and all they know is the democrats are blocking it.

 
A family of four would receive $3,000. That money begins to phase out for Americans making more than $75,000 per year.
Are they saying households that make $75k+ would get nothing?
 
No large corporate bailouts. If the corporations get tax payer money then they should repay the tax payers in full or an equal benefit. If corporations need money that bad they should get loans and pay back the government. Maybe if they have to repay a loan instead of splurging tax payer money the corporations would probably have some. Stop giving away million dollar executive bonuses.
 
No large corporate bailouts. If the corporations get tax payer money then they should repay the tax payers in full or an equal benefit. If corporations need money that bad they should get loans and pay back the government. Maybe if they have to repay a loan instead of splurging tax payer money the corporations would probably have some. Some giving away million dollar executive bonuses.

Your 100% correct. The problem is that these corporate executives are greedy and if they don’t get what they want they will lay off people just so they can free up cash to keep there big pay checks.
 
Are they saying households that make $75k+ would get nothing?

The payment would phase out entirely for individuals making more than $99,000 annually, meaning people who make more than that would not get any money from the government, according to the proposal.

For married couples earning more than $150,000, the payment would also decline gradually, and it would phase out completely for couples making more than $198,000, according to the plan.

The checks, however, would reduce to $600 (or $1,200 for married couples) for taxpayers who have little or no income tax liability but have at least $2,500 in qualifying income, according to a GOP summary of the plan.


The caps are way too low and the payment isn't enough. :smh: You can be very solidly middle class and still have way too much income to benefit from this dumb shit.

Meanwhile, fucking El Salvador has this in place

For a three-month period, the affected will be exempt from payments for electricity, water, mortgages and personal loans, credit cards, telephones, cable and internet, among other services, Fuentes said.
Once the three months are up, payment of the charges accrued will be spread over two years, without risk of default or damage to creditworthiness. Nor will they face interest charges.
 
The airline industry CEOs alone have requested $50B in direct grants (not loans) from the federal government by month end. Who else besides them will be pulling up to the gubment's tits for a lick. Entertainment, leisure, retail, energy, you name it, they're all waiting in the wings to get a piece. The current administration (slimiest/swampiest ever) is about load up all their cronies with the largest wealth transfer in the history of the world. We could be finished.
 
The Key in all this is One time payment... when this thing is going to drag out for MONTHS..

This entire thing shows you that Repubs.. have no clue...

They are just throwing out a Shiny apple to confuse people.....

What happens if this drags out to June...

Will they come up with another package?
 
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If you make upwards of a 100k a year the fuck you need money for???
Well its actually 75k. But lets say its 100k and you work retail or service industry and you've become unemployed as a result of the crisis. Now lets say you have student loan, rent, a kid, and utilities. The stoppage hits you hardest.

Why shouldn't these people get assistance?

Why do airlines need a government check? Interest rates are all time low. Any bank on the planet would gladly lend them the money.
 
I need to know the details. If they’re blocking because The bill because it’ll make the new world order or something I get it
 
The airline industry CEOs alone have requested $50B in direct grants (not loans) from the federal government by month end. Who else besides them will be pulling up to the gubment's tits for a lick. Entertainment, leisure, retail, energy, you name it, they're all waiting in the wings to get a piece. The current administration (slimiest/swampiest ever) is about load up all their cronies with the largest wealth transfer in the history of the world. We could be finished.

Which is exactly why that 500 billion fund has a 6 month "lag" between the funds being released and the info becoming publicly available. :smh:
 
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