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Debate: Black LGBTQ+ People Deserve to Feel How They Want About Nipsey Hussle
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fuck gay niggas and their opinion.
They have that right because they forced the issue, same thing they are doing right now.
No right,worth having, was ever gained by being nice and appealing to the masses. You ruffle feathers to get what you want.
I dont think they have it to be honest because if they did Nips would have never had the thought to go on social media and liken them to weak
I dont think they have it to be honest because if they did Nips would have never had the thought to go on social media and liken them to weak
You know what?
I'm going to look for that post again and see EXACTLY what Nip said in full context.
Some Gay folk have a hard time understanding that those two things can exist at the same time.
It’s a reality killer. If my daughter came out gay, I’d be disappointed too. Doesn’t mean I’m going to love her any less. I just had expectations and my reality would be crushed in that sense.
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The minute they start with that bullshit "cis-gender" label, I automatically stop paying attention...
Yeah like what the fuck is a cisgender. That’s what they call us straight people. Like straight people are weird or something
And now you have transgender people demanding people call them by there preferred pronouns. If you call a man dressed as a women a man. You can go to jail for misgendering. It’s happening in the U.K.
I remember when conservatives were saying it’s not going to just stop with gay marriage. These faggots now want gay lessons in every school now
I got hit with this by a same sex couple in the pta.
I honestly think i wouldn't care.
I think its more society pressure, my religious upbringing that may get me upset initially
But i think I'm a hypocrite.
Cause i think i would be MORE disappointed if my son was gay than my daughter. I do not have a rational explanation why.
But in 2030?
When she is legally an adult?
The world has changed from when we were 21?
I cant say how i would feel.
Hopefully i raised good smart independent adults.
Yeah someone gay tried to hit me with cis gender
And then i said don't like that.
They got defensive
Tried to compare it to bring called African american.
I said slow down...
WE decided what to call OURSELVES
How y'all decide what to call US?
I miss the meeting?
I said ok so then i can call you sir?
Cause that is what my group decided to label YOU?
Yeah... it was over after that
These people are insane to consider that shit as a Hate Crime. This woman victimized her son because she suffers from Munchausen by Proxy.
It’s all about controlling the narrative.
Certain groups in the world do this with amazing effectiveness. The whole “if you ain’t with us you against us” story.
Certain groups in the world do this with amazing effectiveness. The whole “if you ain’t with us you against us” story.
"Gay lessons"...?
What exactly are gay lessons?
I mean, it's one thing to point out that a historically relevant person was/is gay/lesbian (allegedly) but unless you're teaching a course specifically about (factual) gay/lesbians in history, it's gonna be a lot of misinformation and heresay.
I'm confused....
Pump the brakes a sec, cause it looks like two diff things you talkin about here. Let me understand this correctly...I dont think they have it to be honest because if they did Nips would have never had the thought to go on social media and liken them to weak
When I say, "gays have the same verbal rights as anyone else and are entitled to their opinion's..." that is self explanatory. They have a platform, like all all of us, and ca express themselves as they see fit.
But what it sounds like you're referring to is having that opinion, without judgement or any recourse.
Am I understanding you correctly?
They need to just shut the fuck up period. Nothing pleases these people, and after while they even forget what their agenda is. They just wanna put themselves in every situation like it's about them. Next week they will be arguing about Bryce Harper's bat flip and how it disrespects the LBGTQRSTV community. Give me a fuckin break. 
Yeah, we seem to be drifitng into two convos.
Yeah I agree they have rights to express their opinions, and it just seems like what they are doing from my view. I'm not too hip on social media so I dont see everything they post, but from what I see on the NBC News article its seems like its standard fare.
"He died, this is why he wass problematic"
you can see the same about anybody who dies.
As least you admit you’re hypocritical in that sense.
Our human mythologies creates all type of realities we hold on to. We place meaning on those realities. We place morality on them. We have a tendency to judge others that don’t align with our own reality. We set boundaries for ourselves so we can have some type of order. We give ourselves comfort and something to hold on to.
To let go of these things causes great discomfort and suffering, especially if we made something to be very important to ourselves, our life, and the ones we hold close to us.
The problem with people in general, they think we are suppose to just wipe away several decades of personal experiences and beliefs; and automatically accept and adapt to an ever evolving society.
This includes everyone (every group) that wants people to see the world (society) or understand the world (society) in how they see it. We do this as small as being married to as large as protesting social injustice.
You, like myself, still hold on to certain myths and we know these myths are only true to us and how we see it. To have these myths destroyed or killed will bring a certain level of suffering. I think any human being can relate to that. You believed the world was one way, but someone like your own child tells you (even shows you) that it’s another way.
Yes, I would be disappointed if my daughter ended up gay. And being disappointed in something doesn’t make us bad people.
Media and talking heads tend to blow things up to make a person seem like they are anti-X. We've seen this time and time again when someone criticizes America's military involvement in other countries, and the talking head will say "so you don't support the troops?".
You’re not “Hypocritical”, you’re a “Man”. That’s how “Men” generally feel about sons vs daughters when it comes to being gay.
That was perfect.
Yep gays should have the right to feel however they want and I should be able to not give a fuck?
Those of you who are raising black males to be real men., keep up the good work
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Real black men will never go out of style and will have their pick of females of any ethnicity as they age. Black sissies, trannies, punks, and gumps are not interested in protecting black women from harm.
!Real black men will never go out of style and will have their pick of females of any ethnicity as they age. Black sissies, trannies, punks, and gumps are not interested in protecting black women from harm.
Those of you who are raising black males to be real men., keep up the good work
Real black men will never go out of style and will have their pick of females of any ethnicity as they age. Black sissies, trannies, punks, and gumps are not interested in protecting black women from harm.
How are you rotecting black women by harm by worrying about picking women of different ethnicities tho?
@4 Dimensional
I have nothing against gay folk i wouldn't call myself an "ally" per se but considering my religion and Caribbean background?
I'm a damn advocate in comparison
I don't feel uncomfortable around them dont think they are broken or abnormal i dont know if its a choice or a biological distinction.
I've went to school, parties, dinner, work etc. with gay folk
I understand support and sympathize with their own struggles for respect and equality
It had ABSOLUTELY no effect on me.
This doesn't make me better than anyone.
However...
Calling gay the new black, #metoo, heterosexual black men are the worst, toxic MASCULINITY...
If this the strategy for acceptance?
Attacking ANOTHER oppressed group to up your own?
Nah i aint with that
I know you speaking truth
But it aint right gay is gay.
I try my BEST to see the other side
I don't hate gay folk, i do hate being labeled someone that I'm not.
Ok i wouldn't have a party but i wouldn't HATE my son. I would LOVE him till i die.
Defend him support him.
But I'm a parent.
If he came home with a white women
If he joined the military
Got some jumpoff pregnant
Dropped out of college
Moved to Africa to build wells
Became a priest
I would be disappointed.
And yeah that is MY problem
I'm a parent i want them to live life experiences challenges love heartbreak etc...
And of course never feel pain and be wealthy successful happy all the time.
So i aint rational. That don't mean I'm a homophobe either.
I have nothing against gay folk i wouldn't call myself an "ally" per se but considering my religion and Caribbean background?
I'm a damn advocate in comparison
I don't feel uncomfortable around them dont think they are broken or abnormal i dont know if its a choice or a biological distinction.
I've went to school, parties, dinner, work etc. with gay folk
I understand support and sympathize with their own struggles for respect and equality
It had ABSOLUTELY no effect on me.
This doesn't make me better than anyone.
However...
Calling gay the new black, #metoo, heterosexual black men are the worst, toxic MASCULINITY...
If this the strategy for acceptance?
Attacking ANOTHER oppressed group to up your own?
Nah i aint with that
I know you speaking truth
But it aint right gay is gay.
I try my BEST to see the other side
I don't hate gay folk, i do hate being labeled someone that I'm not.
Ok i wouldn't have a party but i wouldn't HATE my son. I would LOVE him till i die.
Defend him support him.
But I'm a parent.
If he came home with a white women
If he joined the military
Got some jumpoff pregnant
Dropped out of college
Moved to Africa to build wells
Became a priest
I would be disappointed.
And yeah that is MY problem
I'm a parent i want them to live life experiences challenges love heartbreak etc...
And of course never feel pain and be wealthy successful happy all the time.
So i aint rational. That don't mean I'm a homophobe either.
You're reading too much and thinking too hard into what I typed. The point is that black men are always desired by women period. The same way black women are desired by men period. Don't make it complicated when the point that was originally made was simple.
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Yes gay is gay but as a heterosexual male, that’s the way heterosexual males feel. Just like a normal heterosexual male doesn’t have an issue with two good looking women having sex. If it’s two women that look like men, that’s “Gay” and something that we don’t want to see.
It’s not “Hypocritical”, it’s a double standard and that’s life.
A woman can’t understand this perspective because she’s not a man. It’s a Man thing.
This. Not one strong brother in season 1. Fuck cbs, you can tell that the sissies have took over there.
100% cosign. It is getting to the point where they are on every tv show and every movie like they are no longer a a minority. I am so glad that my kids no longer watch tv because I would have to be on guard 24/7 vetting all kinds of bullshit.
It’s all about what you want it to means to you.
Those that “attack” also have a jaded perspective as well. Ultimately, can one group understand another group fully? I don’t believe that possible. I also don’t believe it’s possible for one group to accept another group fully either.
Humans want labels and don’t want labels at the same time. In your perspective, you’re a particular label. To another human, you may be a different label. Together, you contradict or misrepresent each other. Now you’re just going to be arguing meaning and truths.
Maybe I’ve excepted that humans (that includes myself) only think we know what we are talking about when all we are really doing is navigating various personal experiences, society and truths while trying to understand the world around us.
I’m taking things less personal because most of the time a person’s perspective has nothing to do with me. Often they are just projecting their own personal truths.
I’ve been so many different labels through my life time, I can’t even count. Some are new, some are old. Some I understand and some I’m confused about.
I consider myself a man. The LGBT community may call me a cis-gender or attack my belief in patriarchy. And none of that matters to me.
That logic applies to any and everyone.
Heterosexual men understand my sentiments regarding this specific issue.
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