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Black LGBTQ+ People Deserve to Feel How They Want About Nipsey Hussle

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In this op-ed, Out Executive Editor Raquel Willis shares her thoughts on the complexity of mourning people with anti-LGBTQ+ pasts.


BY RAQUEL WILLIS
APRIL 01 2019 11:30 AM EDT
11.4K SHARES

I first heard about what happened to Nipsey Hussle in the Out Slack room. One of my colleagues mentioned the burgeoning feud between queer people (mostly Black cisgender gay men) and others (mostly cis straight folk) about the righteousness in publicly mourning or not mourning him. It turned out the rapper and entrepreneur was shot multiple times in front of Marathon Clothing, the store he owned in Los Angeles’s Hyde Park yesterday evening.

I won’t lie. When I saw his name trending on Twitter, I felt a pang in my heart. I wasn’t a fan or anything — I haven’t really engaged with his work on a deeper level. But it was a knee-jerk reaction, one steeped in the muscle memory of all of the senseless deaths I’ve witnessed in the Black community via the media. The depth of the pang was nowhere near what I typically feel when another one of my Black trans sisters is murdered or when I hear about the latest Black queer brother that has lost his life at Ed Buck’s residence, but it was still noticeable.


Other LGBTQ+ people, at least online, didn’t feel the same way. Many expressed outrage at the ways Hussle is currently being lifted up as a community savior, a beacon of light to downtrodden Black folks in the wake of his death. He was vocal about his belief in expanding opportunities to build wealth in the Black community and participating in various community-oriented efforts. But in January 2018, he posted a photo of a group of Black men and boys in suits at an event with a caption devaluing and demonizing Black queer men — likening them to those who are “hyperviolent” and “abandoners,” ostensibly of the children and families.

“Demonstration speaks louder than Conversation. They gone feed us every image of our men and boys but this one,” he stated in an Instagram caption. “No hyper violent...No homo sexual...No abandoners....JUS STRONG BLAC MEN AND YOUNG Men. RESPECT TO MY BIG HOMIE @bigu1 for Leading with love and intelligence. GOD IS WITH US WHO CAN GO AGAINST US."

After being called out by activist Deray Mckesson and others on Twitter, he responded with the following tweet, doubling down on this idea that there is an “agenda” that is out to negatively influence Black men and boys. He claimed he didn’t “look down on gay people,” but the insistence that there’s a “gay agenda” is an old line positioning queerness and transness as inorganic detriments to society.



A month later, Hussle was interviewed on The Breakfast Club radio show and asked about the ordeal. In his response, he claimed his words were taken out of context and that he was actually critiquing the media. “You know it’s a movement right now for acceptance and equality. You know there’s a whole machine built — It’s a witch hunt,” he said. After discussing the sexism and homophobia as a part of a “menacing” machine (after host Charlamagne’s nudging), he continued, “I’m with the movement of equality and everybody respect everybody as individuals. God is the creator and the judge.”




If anyone was looking for a full apology or a grander display of contrition, you never really got one from Hussle. And that’s the point, a number of LGBTQ+ people and our supporters are trying to make. Granted Charlamagne and The Breakfast Club crew are the last bunch any of us should expect to hold accountable someone who has made anti-LGBTQ+ statements. They are regularly flitting between faux allyship and throwing the community completely under the bus. In 2017, they infamously brought author and television director Janet Mock, a Black trans woman, onto their show and, just a few days later, instigated comedian Lil Duval to make light about killing her if he encountered her.

When a notable person dies, there’s a way that the general public analyzes everything that the person ever did, for better or worse. However, there are harmful actions or behaviors that are seen as more or less an indictment on the individual as a whole. For instance, when someone like former Senator John McCain or former First Lady Nancy Reagan dies, you can expect a large outpouring of condolences and respect from people who weren’t as impacted by their harmful actions. For McCain, a number of well-to-do white people mourned him, while a number of people of color and more left-leaning people were outspoken about the marks on his legacy — including racist comments, a penchance for neo-imperialism, and voting against the creation of Martin Luther King, Jr Day. For Reagan, the LGBTQ+ community and allies could never forget the ways in which she enabled inaction, stigma, and even death for those living with HIV/AIDS in the 1980s.

A major tension that many Black LGBTQ+ people are facing is that we often can’t depend on the larger Black community to have our backs in grappling with the queerphobia and transphobia exhibited by our own. Black cishet people are constantly swatting away critiques (large and small) of public figures who malign our part of the community. So when an instance like this, a person who has a recent history of speaking ill about LGBTQ+ people and never fully engaged with evolving on the issue (at least publicly) is being honored, many of us can’t help to side-eye. None of us should be forced or even expected to mourn people who have operated as our oppressor.

Our community, and society at-large, is in what I like to call the Era of Reckoning. We’re reckoning with our capacities to both oppress and be oppressed. We’re reckoning with being held accountable for our past sins and how we plan to hold others accountable for theirs. We’re reckoning with the impossibility of perfect politics, why — even when we try our best — we will never be completely unproblematic.

It’s great that Hussle believed so fervently in the power of the Black community and poured his resources into lifting it up. It’s also unfortunate that his vision of a better community seemingly didn’t include all Black people, particularly Black LGBTQ+ people. It’s possible his views had changed behind-the-scenes, but all our part of the community can go on is what was said publicly. LGBTQ+ people deserve to feel however they want about his death.

It will never be OK in my eyes to make light of another person’s passing, which I have seen a great deal of online. We can and should be better than that. In the memory of Hussle and his missteps, I see cousins, uncles, my brother, friends, men I’ve worked and organized with, even guys I’ve dated. And I think about the people he’s left behind: his wife Lauren London, his children, family, community, and yes, even fans. The same senseless violence (which many alleged is connected to gangs) is a threat to all of us and none of us should be making light of it.

In the grand scheme, it’s less about any individual instance or person and more about how we all treat each other with more respect. Hussle’s death should not be a chance to double down on silencing the valid concerns of LGBTQ+ people; it should serve as an opportunity for us to think more critically about how we’re going to solve all layers of oppression within our community. Which spaces can we create that allow Black cishet people and Black LGBTQ+ people to heal together? We need to engage more with how to make these moments truly teachable, so that none of us will have to live in fear of one day being seen as irredeemable.
 
@ViCiouS @4 Dimensional @largebillsonlyplease

what are your thoughts on this?

I forgot he made these initial comments and I thought he addressed them. And I thought his "apology" was enough.

And no matter what? I fell his comments didn't warrant wanton disrespect at the time of his murder.


They can feel whatever they like
And we can completely tune them out and not let them have a word or voice.
Lol @ them saying they deserve to feel how they want about a guy getting fucking murdered who wanted to help everyone including them


Then we deserve to be able to not care what you have to say nor listen


There was another black dude ... Gay... Who wrote along those lines then got upset talking about cant have nuanced conversations

He's not even buried yet and it had to be all about you


How bout fuck you.
 
Black LGBTQ+ People Deserve to Feel How They Want About Nipsey Hussle

nipsyhussle-750x.jpg

In this op-ed, Out Executive Editor Raquel Willis shares her thoughts on the complexity of mourning people with anti-LGBTQ+ pasts.


BY RAQUEL WILLIS
APRIL 01 2019 11:30 AM EDT
11.4K SHARES

I first heard about what happened to Nipsey Hussle in the Out Slack room. One of my colleagues mentioned the burgeoning feud between queer people (mostly Black cisgender gay men) and others (mostly cis straight folk) about the righteousness in publicly mourning or not mourning him. It turned out the rapper and entrepreneur was shot multiple times in front of Marathon Clothing, the store he owned in Los Angeles’s Hyde Park yesterday evening.

I won’t lie. When I saw his name trending on Twitter, I felt a pang in my heart. I wasn’t a fan or anything — I haven’t really engaged with his work on a deeper level. But it was a knee-jerk reaction, one steeped in the muscle memory of all of the senseless deaths I’ve witnessed in the Black community via the media. The depth of the pang was nowhere near what I typically feel when another one of my Black trans sisters is murdered or when I hear about the latest Black queer brother that has lost his life at Ed Buck’s residence, but it was still noticeable.


Other LGBTQ+ people, at least online, didn’t feel the same way. Many expressed outrage at the ways Hussle is currently being lifted up as a community savior, a beacon of light to downtrodden Black folks in the wake of his death. He was vocal about his belief in expanding opportunities to build wealth in the Black community and participating in various community-oriented efforts. But in January 2018, he posted a photo of a group of Black men and boys in suits at an event with a caption devaluing and demonizing Black queer men — likening them to those who are “hyperviolent” and “abandoners,” ostensibly of the children and families.

“Demonstration speaks louder than Conversation. They gone feed us every image of our men and boys but this one,” he stated in an Instagram caption. “No hyper violent...No homo sexual...No abandoners....JUS STRONG BLAC MEN AND YOUNG Men. RESPECT TO MY BIG HOMIE @bigu1 for Leading with love and intelligence. GOD IS WITH US WHO CAN GO AGAINST US."

After being called out by activist Deray Mckesson and others on Twitter, he responded with the following tweet, doubling down on this idea that there is an “agenda” that is out to negatively influence Black men and boys. He claimed he didn’t “look down on gay people,” but the insistence that there’s a “gay agenda” is an old line positioning queerness and transness as inorganic detriments to society.



A month later, Hussle was interviewed on The Breakfast Club radio show and asked about the ordeal. In his response, he claimed his words were taken out of context and that he was actually critiquing the media. “You know it’s a movement right now for acceptance and equality. You know there’s a whole machine built — It’s a witch hunt,” he said. After discussing the sexism and homophobia as a part of a “menacing” machine (after host Charlamagne’s nudging), he continued, “I’m with the movement of equality and everybody respect everybody as individuals. God is the creator and the judge.”




If anyone was looking for a full apology or a grander display of contrition, you never really got one from Hussle. And that’s the point, a number of LGBTQ+ people and our supporters are trying to make. Granted Charlamagne and The Breakfast Club crew are the last bunch any of us should expect to hold accountable someone who has made anti-LGBTQ+ statements. They are regularly flitting between faux allyship and throwing the community completely under the bus. In 2017, they infamously brought author and television director Janet Mock, a Black trans woman, onto their show and, just a few days later, instigated comedian Lil Duval to make light about killing her if he encountered her.

When a notable person dies, there’s a way that the general public analyzes everything that the person ever did, for better or worse. However, there are harmful actions or behaviors that are seen as more or less an indictment on the individual as a whole. For instance, when someone like former Senator John McCain or former First Lady Nancy Reagan dies, you can expect a large outpouring of condolences and respect from people who weren’t as impacted by their harmful actions. For McCain, a number of well-to-do white people mourned him, while a number of people of color and more left-leaning people were outspoken about the marks on his legacy — including racist comments, a penchance for neo-imperialism, and voting against the creation of Martin Luther King, Jr Day. For Reagan, the LGBTQ+ community and allies could never forget the ways in which she enabled inaction, stigma, and even death for those living with HIV/AIDS in the 1980s.

A major tension that many Black LGBTQ+ people are facing is that we often can’t depend on the larger Black community to have our backs in grappling with the queerphobia and transphobia exhibited by our own. Black cishet people are constantly swatting away critiques (large and small) of public figures who malign our part of the community. So when an instance like this, a person who has a recent history of speaking ill about LGBTQ+ people and never fully engaged with evolving on the issue (at least publicly) is being honored, many of us can’t help to side-eye. None of us should be forced or even expected to mourn people who have operated as our oppressor.

Our community, and society at-large, is in what I like to call the Era of Reckoning. We’re reckoning with our capacities to both oppress and be oppressed. We’re reckoning with being held accountable for our past sins and how we plan to hold others accountable for theirs. We’re reckoning with the impossibility of perfect politics, why — even when we try our best — we will never be completely unproblematic.

It’s great that Hussle believed so fervently in the power of the Black community and poured his resources into lifting it up. It’s also unfortunate that his vision of a better community seemingly didn’t include all Black people, particularly Black LGBTQ+ people. It’s possible his views had changed behind-the-scenes, but all our part of the community can go on is what was said publicly. LGBTQ+ people deserve to feel however they want about his death.

It will never be OK in my eyes to make light of another person’s passing, which I have seen a great deal of online. We can and should be better than that. In the memory of Hussle and his missteps, I see cousins, uncles, my brother, friends, men I’ve worked and organized with, even guys I’ve dated. And I think about the people he’s left behind: his wife Lauren London, his children, family, community, and yes, even fans. The same senseless violence (which many alleged is connected to gangs) is a threat to all of us and none of us should be making light of it.

In the grand scheme, it’s less about any individual instance or person and more about how we all treat each other with more respect. Hussle’s death should not be a chance to double down on silencing the valid concerns of LGBTQ+ people; it should serve as an opportunity for us to think more critically about how we’re going to solve all layers of oppression within our community. Which spaces can we create that allow Black cishet people and Black LGBTQ+ people to heal together? We need to engage more with how to make these moments truly teachable, so that none of us will have to live in fear of one day being seen as irredeemable.



Count how many times she clumsily attempts to address the death and then insert "what about us tho?" In this piece
 
@ViCiouS @4 Dimensional @largebillsonlyplease

what are your thoughts on this?

I forgot he made these initial comments and I thought he addressed them. And I thought his "apology" was enough.

And no matter what? I fell his comments didn't warrant wanton disrespect at the time of his murder.
if heterosexual boycotted homo they literally would collapse..they almost wouldn't be able to sustain nothing without heterosexual...they better fall back b4 we boycott and send them back into the closet... They want a building built have all hetero construction workers boycott and refuse to build it good luck getting a team of mo's to do it... You own stores no hetero support, no buying their foods, no watching or paying for movies with them in it... Watch how quickly they'll shutdafucup... No matter how big your agenda is fuck boys you still a minority
 
LGBTQ and feminist goal is to emasculate men. That’s why they keep bringing up toxic masculinity.

Feminist (Liberals) told black women in the 1960s and 70s that you don’t need a Man. You can be strong and independent and that is what destroyed the black family . As you can see a lot of children grow up without fathers which is why in the hoods starting in the 70s you seen a lot gangs poppin up.

There is nothing toxic about toxic masculinity. Children need both a mother and a father to guide them.

But feminist and LGBTQ both follow communist Marxism. In which they want to destroy the warrior class and the nuclear family and have people depend on the state.
 
@ViCiouS @4 Dimensional @largebillsonlyplease

what are your thoughts on this?

I forgot he made these initial comments and I thought he addressed them. And I thought his "apology" was enough.

And no matter what? I fell his comments didn't warrant wanton disrespect at the time of his murder.
If I posted pictures of thugs and said boys should not strive to dress like this would they be offended also? Gay people be doing to much.
 
Not like I'm a FAN of Hussle's.
But this shit really needs to stop.
Many of these LGBTQ folks have this need to inject themselves into EVERYTHING that doesn't have SHIT to do with them.
And I'm really getting disgusted with BLACK LGBTQs who allow this.
And prefer their sexuality over their Blackness.
Like their White counterparts are their saviors and shit.

Vicki Dilliard laid my thoughts out perfectly last night...

 
Black LGBTQ+ People Deserve to Feel How They Want About Nipsey Hussle

nipsyhussle-750x.jpg

In this op-ed, Out Executive Editor Raquel Willis shares her thoughts on the complexity of mourning people with anti-LGBTQ+ pasts.


BY RAQUEL WILLIS
APRIL 01 2019 11:30 AM EDT
11.4K SHARES

I first heard about what happened to Nipsey Hussle in the Out Slack room. One of my colleagues mentioned the burgeoning feud between queer people (mostly Black cisgender gay men) and others (mostly cis straight folk) about the righteousness in publicly mourning or not mourning him. It turned out the rapper and entrepreneur was shot multiple times in front of Marathon Clothing, the store he owned in Los Angeles’s Hyde Park yesterday evening.

I won’t lie. When I saw his name trending on Twitter, I felt a pang in my heart. I wasn’t a fan or anything — I haven’t really engaged with his work on a deeper level. But it was a knee-jerk reaction, one steeped in the muscle memory of all of the senseless deaths I’ve witnessed in the Black community via the media. The depth of the pang was nowhere near what I typically feel when another one of my Black trans sisters is murdered or when I hear about the latest Black queer brother that has lost his life at Ed Buck’s residence, but it was still noticeable.


Other LGBTQ+ people, at least online, didn’t feel the same way. Many expressed outrage at the ways Hussle is currently being lifted up as a community savior, a beacon of light to downtrodden Black folks in the wake of his death. He was vocal about his belief in expanding opportunities to build wealth in the Black community and participating in various community-oriented efforts. But in January 2018, he posted a photo of a group of Black men and boys in suits at an event with a caption devaluing and demonizing Black queer men — likening them to those who are “hyperviolent” and “abandoners,” ostensibly of the children and families.

“Demonstration speaks louder than Conversation. They gone feed us every image of our men and boys but this one,” he stated in an Instagram caption. “No hyper violent...No homo sexual...No abandoners....JUS STRONG BLAC MEN AND YOUNG Men. RESPECT TO MY BIG HOMIE @bigu1 for Leading with love and intelligence. GOD IS WITH US WHO CAN GO AGAINST US."

After being called out by activist Deray Mckesson and others on Twitter, he responded with the following tweet, doubling down on this idea that there is an “agenda” that is out to negatively influence Black men and boys. He claimed he didn’t “look down on gay people,” but the insistence that there’s a “gay agenda” is an old line positioning queerness and transness as inorganic detriments to society.



A month later, Hussle was interviewed on The Breakfast Club radio show and asked about the ordeal. In his response, he claimed his words were taken out of context and that he was actually critiquing the media. “You know it’s a movement right now for acceptance and equality. You know there’s a whole machine built — It’s a witch hunt,” he said. After discussing the sexism and homophobia as a part of a “menacing” machine (after host Charlamagne’s nudging), he continued, “I’m with the movement of equality and everybody respect everybody as individuals. God is the creator and the judge.”




If anyone was looking for a full apology or a grander display of contrition, you never really got one from Hussle. And that’s the point, a number of LGBTQ+ people and our supporters are trying to make. Granted Charlamagne and The Breakfast Club crew are the last bunch any of us should expect to hold accountable someone who has made anti-LGBTQ+ statements. They are regularly flitting between faux allyship and throwing the community completely under the bus. In 2017, they infamously brought author and television director Janet Mock, a Black trans woman, onto their show and, just a few days later, instigated comedian Lil Duval to make light about killing her if he encountered her.

When a notable person dies, there’s a way that the general public analyzes everything that the person ever did, for better or worse. However, there are harmful actions or behaviors that are seen as more or less an indictment on the individual as a whole. For instance, when someone like former Senator John McCain or former First Lady Nancy Reagan dies, you can expect a large outpouring of condolences and respect from people who weren’t as impacted by their harmful actions. For McCain, a number of well-to-do white people mourned him, while a number of people of color and more left-leaning people were outspoken about the marks on his legacy — including racist comments, a penchance for neo-imperialism, and voting against the creation of Martin Luther King, Jr Day. For Reagan, the LGBTQ+ community and allies could never forget the ways in which she enabled inaction, stigma, and even death for those living with HIV/AIDS in the 1980s.

A major tension that many Black LGBTQ+ people are facing is that we often can’t depend on the larger Black community to have our backs in grappling with the queerphobia and transphobia exhibited by our own. Black cishet people are constantly swatting away critiques (large and small) of public figures who malign our part of the community. So when an instance like this, a person who has a recent history of speaking ill about LGBTQ+ people and never fully engaged with evolving on the issue (at least publicly) is being honored, many of us can’t help to side-eye. None of us should be forced or even expected to mourn people who have operated as our oppressor.

Our community, and society at-large, is in what I like to call the Era of Reckoning. We’re reckoning with our capacities to both oppress and be oppressed. We’re reckoning with being held accountable for our past sins and how we plan to hold others accountable for theirs. We’re reckoning with the impossibility of perfect politics, why — even when we try our best — we will never be completely unproblematic.

It’s great that Hussle believed so fervently in the power of the Black community and poured his resources into lifting it up. It’s also unfortunate that his vision of a better community seemingly didn’t include all Black people, particularly Black LGBTQ+ people. It’s possible his views had changed behind-the-scenes, but all our part of the community can go on is what was said publicly. LGBTQ+ people deserve to feel however they want about his death.

It will never be OK in my eyes to make light of another person’s passing, which I have seen a great deal of online. We can and should be better than that. In the memory of Hussle and his missteps, I see cousins, uncles, my brother, friends, men I’ve worked and organized with, even guys I’ve dated. And I think about the people he’s left behind: his wife Lauren London, his children, family, community, and yes, even fans. The same senseless violence (which many alleged is connected to gangs) is a threat to all of us and none of us should be making light of it.

In the grand scheme, it’s less about any individual instance or person and more about how we all treat each other with more respect. Hussle’s death should not be a chance to double down on silencing the valid concerns of LGBTQ+ people; it should serve as an opportunity for us to think more critically about how we’re going to solve all layers of oppression within our community. Which spaces can we create that allow Black cishet people and Black LGBTQ+ people to heal together? We need to engage more with how to make these moments truly teachable, so that none of us will have to live in fear of one day being seen as irredeemable.



Tell that fag nobody cares...

Nipsey was really a real dude..

@213

Was right about him..

If Jesus was real I think he just got murdered again!!
 
My thing is this....

What Nip posted about those young black men was not a diss to the LGBTQ+ community it was a diss to the media... He said the media doesn't like to promote positive images of strong (read hetero) young black men.... And one could argue he is right about that....

But just because he said the media doesn't promote positive images of straight young black men he didn't say all "F--s should burn in hell and they deserve a fate worse than death" .... As far as I know Nip never made any blatantly disrespectful or disparaging comments towards the LGBTQ+..... So to take that one incident and the subsequent interview afterwards on the Breakfast Club and say "see look, he did this one thing, one time and didn't really apologize!" and let that lead you to he's "anti-LGBTQ+,".... Man gtfoh!! Stretch Armstrong levels type of reaching with that shit.

Some people just need attention so bad they they've got to make something out of nothing....
 
Thing is, Nip was wrong for saying what he said. You cant make a claim strongly implying that someone is weaker based on their sexual orientation, and not expect to face backlash proving you wrong.

He can backtrack al he want, which he tried in that tweet, but in the real world you cant get away from it unscratched.Its ignorance
 
Black LGBTQ+ People Deserve to Feel How They Want About Nipsey Hussle

nipsyhussle-750x.jpg

In this op-ed, Out Executive Editor Raquel Willis shares her thoughts on the complexity of mourning people with anti-LGBTQ+ pasts.


BY RAQUEL WILLIS
APRIL 01 2019 11:30 AM EDT
11.4K SHARES

I first heard about what happened to Nipsey Hussle in the Out Slack room. One of my colleagues mentioned the burgeoning feud between queer people (mostly Black cisgender gay men) and others (mostly cis straight folk) about the righteousness in publicly mourning or not mourning him. It turned out the rapper and entrepreneur was shot multiple times in front of Marathon Clothing, the store he owned in Los Angeles’s Hyde Park yesterday evening.

I won’t lie. When I saw his name trending on Twitter, I felt a pang in my heart. I wasn’t a fan or anything — I haven’t really engaged with his work on a deeper level. But it was a knee-jerk reaction, one steeped in the muscle memory of all of the senseless deaths I’ve witnessed in the Black community via the media. The depth of the pang was nowhere near what I typically feel when another one of my Black trans sisters is murdered or when I hear about the latest Black queer brother that has lost his life at Ed Buck’s residence, but it was still noticeable.


Other LGBTQ+ people, at least online, didn’t feel the same way. Many expressed outrage at the ways Hussle is currently being lifted up as a community savior, a beacon of light to downtrodden Black folks in the wake of his death. He was vocal about his belief in expanding opportunities to build wealth in the Black community and participating in various community-oriented efforts. But in January 2018, he posted a photo of a group of Black men and boys in suits at an event with a caption devaluing and demonizing Black queer men — likening them to those who are “hyperviolent” and “abandoners,” ostensibly of the children and families.

“Demonstration speaks louder than Conversation. They gone feed us every image of our men and boys but this one,” he stated in an Instagram caption. “No hyper violent...No homo sexual...No abandoners....JUS STRONG BLAC MEN AND YOUNG Men. RESPECT TO MY BIG HOMIE @bigu1 for Leading with love and intelligence. GOD IS WITH US WHO CAN GO AGAINST US."

After being called out by activist Deray Mckesson and others on Twitter, he responded with the following tweet, doubling down on this idea that there is an “agenda” that is out to negatively influence Black men and boys. He claimed he didn’t “look down on gay people,” but the insistence that there’s a “gay agenda” is an old line positioning queerness and transness as inorganic detriments to society.



A month later, Hussle was interviewed on The Breakfast Club radio show and asked about the ordeal. In his response, he claimed his words were taken out of context and that he was actually critiquing the media. “You know it’s a movement right now for acceptance and equality. You know there’s a whole machine built — It’s a witch hunt,” he said. After discussing the sexism and homophobia as a part of a “menacing” machine (after host Charlamagne’s nudging), he continued, “I’m with the movement of equality and everybody respect everybody as individuals. God is the creator and the judge.”




If anyone was looking for a full apology or a grander display of contrition, you never really got one from Hussle. And that’s the point, a number of LGBTQ+ people and our supporters are trying to make. Granted Charlamagne and The Breakfast Club crew are the last bunch any of us should expect to hold accountable someone who has made anti-LGBTQ+ statements. They are regularly flitting between faux allyship and throwing the community completely under the bus. In 2017, they infamously brought author and television director Janet Mock, a Black trans woman, onto their show and, just a few days later, instigated comedian Lil Duval to make light about killing her if he encountered her.

When a notable person dies, there’s a way that the general public analyzes everything that the person ever did, for better or worse. However, there are harmful actions or behaviors that are seen as more or less an indictment on the individual as a whole. For instance, when someone like former Senator John McCain or former First Lady Nancy Reagan dies, you can expect a large outpouring of condolences and respect from people who weren’t as impacted by their harmful actions. For McCain, a number of well-to-do white people mourned him, while a number of people of color and more left-leaning people were outspoken about the marks on his legacy — including racist comments, a penchance for neo-imperialism, and voting against the creation of Martin Luther King, Jr Day. For Reagan, the LGBTQ+ community and allies could never forget the ways in which she enabled inaction, stigma, and even death for those living with HIV/AIDS in the 1980s.

A major tension that many Black LGBTQ+ people are facing is that we often can’t depend on the larger Black community to have our backs in grappling with the queerphobia and transphobia exhibited by our own. Black cishet people are constantly swatting away critiques (large and small) of public figures who malign our part of the community. So when an instance like this, a person who has a recent history of speaking ill about LGBTQ+ people and never fully engaged with evolving on the issue (at least publicly) is being honored, many of us can’t help to side-eye. None of us should be forced or even expected to mourn people who have operated as our oppressor.

Our community, and society at-large, is in what I like to call the Era of Reckoning. We’re reckoning with our capacities to both oppress and be oppressed. We’re reckoning with being held accountable for our past sins and how we plan to hold others accountable for theirs. We’re reckoning with the impossibility of perfect politics, why — even when we try our best — we will never be completely unproblematic.

It’s great that Hussle believed so fervently in the power of the Black community and poured his resources into lifting it up. It’s also unfortunate that his vision of a better community seemingly didn’t include all Black people, particularly Black LGBTQ+ people. It’s possible his views had changed behind-the-scenes, but all our part of the community can go on is what was said publicly. LGBTQ+ people deserve to feel however they want about his death.

It will never be OK in my eyes to make light of another person’s passing, which I have seen a great deal of online. We can and should be better than that. In the memory of Hussle and his missteps, I see cousins, uncles, my brother, friends, men I’ve worked and organized with, even guys I’ve dated. And I think about the people he’s left behind: his wife Lauren London, his children, family, community, and yes, even fans. The same senseless violence (which many alleged is connected to gangs) is a threat to all of us and none of us should be making light of it.

In the grand scheme, it’s less about any individual instance or person and more about how we all treat each other with more respect. Hussle’s death should not be a chance to double down on silencing the valid concerns of LGBTQ+ people; it should serve as an opportunity for us to think more critically about how we’re going to solve all layers of oppression within our community. Which spaces can we create that allow Black cishet people and Black LGBTQ+ people to heal together? We need to engage more with how to make these moments truly teachable, so that none of us will have to live in fear of one day being seen as irredeemable.


These folks are going to shoehorn themselves into ANY relevant topic that has a lot of buzz. They're trying to force any significant person in the media to speak on their behalf as "allies" no matter the topic too. Everything has to have sexuality attached to it.:smh:
These muhfuckas will try to bring Queer into a conversation about Climate Change. The Green New Deal has to become the Green Queer Deal, etc.

I hope that Heterosexuals start pushing back or at least standing firm on their positions as straight men and women. Let them bitches cry.
 
I'm so gotdamn sick of gay people and this whoa is me bullshit. I knew of Nipsey just based on the correlation of his name but that's it and even I saw his apology on the Breakfast Club.

But these punks, fags, and dykes can eat a bag of infected dicks. They are the most entitled feeling people ever even comparing themselves to racial discrimination.

You have to be sensitive to them but they get to say and do whatever.
 
I don't quite understand the angle homosexuals are taking here. So he said something that you found offensive and passed away.

You have the absolute right to be salty and can voice whatever you want. If you hated dude, cool. You're allowed to.

However, what else are you looking for? An apology from the grave? I don't get it.
 
Not like I'm a FAN of Hussle's.
But this shit really needs to stop.
Many of these LGBTQ folks have this need to inject themselves into EVERYTHING that doesn't have SHIT to do with them.
And I'm really getting disgusted with BLACK LGBTQs who allow this.
And prefer their sexuality over their Blackness.
Like their White counterparts are their saviors and shit.

Vicki Dilliard laid my thoughts out perfectly last night...


I like Vicky but I need the 300 level of her presentations. If she could edit her messages to narrow it down to the topic at hand, I'd be all over it. I don't have the patience anymore for an hour-long sermon. I love her passion and the topics
I just went to 13 mins and what she said was spot on..

How the demonic elite use their media to try and demonize straight black men..

By using such mind fuckery as toxic black male....

She was breaking shit down lovely and simple..

And I just heard less than a minute

This sistars is sharp as fuck

Thanks for the minute mark. I typically play a long video like hers when I'm doing something around the house or working on the car or something. Click play and let it go.
 
I'm more interested in hearing the #ADOS feelings on Nipsey being that he isn't 'one of them'.
 
I don't quite understand the angle homosexuals are taking here. So he said something that you found offensive and passed away.

You have the absolute right to be salty and can voice whatever you want. If you hated dude, cool. You're allowed to.

However, what else are you looking for? An apology from the grave? I don't get it.

i think they are ust trying to show him for what he was. Kinda like how a couple of weeks ago that old John Wayne playboy interview blew up with him talking about his bullshit. Mans been dead decades, and people still called it out. It really just comes down to people expressing themselves when they feel wronged.
 
i think they are ust trying to show him for what he was. Kinda like how a couple of weeks ago that old John Wayne playboy interview blew up with him talking about his bullshit. Mans been dead decades, and people still called it out. It really just comes down to people expressing themselves when they feel wronged.
But they have that right. They KNOW they have that right in today's world.

What else is left?? Make your complaints and/or judgements and keep it moving.

In all honesty, it's gonna fall on deaf ears anyway, so other than being heard, just to be heard, what else do they want?
 
I heard her but this is just one.

I'm surprised their fearless leader hasn't dropped a show on the subject.

Perhaps Nipsey's LGBTQ stance hits to close to home.:puzzled:
Nipsey Hussle was NO Irritated Genie. The problem that the Queers have is that he was never brought to heel, like Kevin Hart, before his life was taken.
 
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