DEATH BY LETHAL INJECTION...I say justice served.....

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While it may be considered two wrongs don't make a right..this needs to be done...fuck his lawyer saying that he didn't know that they were cops...they were two human beings killed execution style, shot in the back of their heads.....too many young bucks with the thug/gangster mentality runnin amok.....Give me the needle..Like Robin Harris said: "Gotta go...GOTTA GO"...fuck gimme a porcupine so that I can dip it in cynaide and just line the fucks up for me... :angry: :smh: :smh:

killers family said:
His younger brother loudly cursed the jurors, while their mother declared them “the murderers now


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Killer of 2 N.Y. Detectives Is Sentenced to Death

By MICHAEL BRICK
Published: January 30, 2007

A federal jury sentenced a 24-year-old Staten Island man to death yesterday for killing two undercover police detectives in 2003. It was the first successful federal capital punishment prosecution in more than 50 years in New York.

After the verdict was read, the defendant, Ronell Wilson, 24, rubbed his palms, looked at his mother and then stuck his tongue out at the families of his victims.
His younger brother loudly cursed the jurors, while their mother declared them “the murderers now.”
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The widows and other relatives of the slain detectives applauded briefly from the gallery, crying, "And the Lord rejoices."

In December, the anonymous jury of seven men and five women convicted Mr. Wilson of shooting the two detectives, James V. Nemorin and Rodney J. Andrews, in the back of the head in a car during a weapons sting on March 10, 2003.

They reached their verdict yesterday after deliberations that started Monday afternoon. They found Mr. Wilson devoid of remorse and directed Judge Nicholas G. Garaufis to impose death sentences on five counts.

Three men have been executed in federal cases in the United States in recent decades, first among them Timothy McVeigh, for the bombing of the Alfred R. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. There are 46 defendants on the federal death row, not including Mr. Wilson.

But prosecutors in New York have failed to win death sentences even in prominent terrorism trials, including those involving the 1998 embassy bombings in East Africa and f Zacarias Moussaoui, who was tried in connection with the Sept. 11 attacks.

Since a moratorium on capital punishment was lifted in 1988, federal prosecutors in New York have brought death penalty charges against 40 defendants, according to Kevin McNally, the director of the Federal Death Penalty Resource Counsel Project, which coordinates the defense of federal death penalty cases nationwide.

Of those, juries have rejected the death penalty in at least 13 of the cases that have gone to trial, , resulting in sentences of life without parole. One a week and a half ago, was in the same court. Nine other cases are pending, including eight in Brooklyn.

But the murder of two undercover detectives, found bleeding on the streets of Staten Island in the aftermath of a miscarried gun transaction, resounded in a city still shaken by the terror attacks. Past twilight on March 10, 2003, the victims became the first two officers killed by gunfire in a single day since 1988.

The murders proved a defining passage for the city, bridging a period of great sentiment for the police that began to erode when officers killed an unarmed teenager, Timothy Stansbury. By a quirk of fate, the trial of Mr. Wilson began two days after an undercover police team in Queens fired 50 bullets and killed an unarmed man, drawing more scrutiny to undercover police operations.

Federal prosecutors vigorously sought the death penalty against Mr. Wilson, taking the case from state prosecutors in Staten Island after New York’s death penalty was largely invalidated in 2004. They endorsed plea bargains with seven defendants, young men based around the Stapleton Houses project in northeastern Staten Island.

The group members had forged their camaraderie on admiration for a slightly older man, nicknamed Keyo, who had been killed under circumstances that are unclear.

Bearing Keyo tattoos and T-shirts, the men gave themselves nicknames like O and Mal-G, evidence and testimony showed. Between the humdrum stuff of growing up, community college courses, talent shows and trips to an amusement park, they mastered gang signs, sold crack cocaine and beat and robbed their rivals.

On March 3, 2003, the men sold a handgun to Detective Nemorin, 36, a Haitian immigrant and father of three who was admired by other officers for his ability to convincingly shed dapper silk scarves for the trappings of a street tough.

As his supervisor would later testify, Detective Nemorin arranged to buy a second gun, a Tec-9 assault pistol of the sort favored by drug runners, at a rendezvous by the Stapleton Houses a week later. For backup, he brought Detective Andrews, 34, a divorced Navy veteran and father of two with a reputation for making tough arrests.

In a police-issued Nissan Maxima, the detectives approached the towering Stapleton Houses with a handgun for protection and a surveillance transmitter.

On the other side of the telephone line, plans for the transaction were shifting from sale to robbery, members of the group later testified. Outside the housing project, Mr. Wilson climbed into the back seat with Jessie Jacobus, at 16 a 6-foot-3, 240-pound enforcer for the group.


As they circled the streets, Mr. Wilson voiced suspicions of a police presence in the neighborhood.

He also questioned the presence of Detective Andrews, who Detective Nemorin said was his brother-in-law. The detectives sought to reassure him with canny street talk and evasive driving, to little discernable effect.

On a darkened dead-end street, with no apparent warning, Mr. Wilson propelled a single 44-caliber bullet into the skull of each man, starting with Detectives Andrews. It was never proven whether Mr. Wilson knew his victims were police officers. But Mr. Jacobus testified that Mr. Wilson gave a reason for the shootings in the minutes after he pulled the trigger.

“Because I don’t give... .” he quoted Mr. Wilson as saying, using a vulgarism to describe just what he did not give, “about anybody.”

Mr. Wilson’s lawyers, Ephraim Savitt, Mitchell Dinnerstein and Kelley J. Sharkey, sought to save Mr. Wilson’s life by recounting the circumstances of his childhood. Before the jury retired, Mr. Wilson read a brief, heavily edited statement of remorse.

Working from 29 pages of questions, the jurors dissected a series of factors weighing for and against the death penalty. Affirming elements of their conviction, they found that Mr. Wilson had acted with the intent to kill. They endorsed all of the prosecution’s assertions, including one that Mr. Wilson would remain a danger in prison.

The jurors, who declined interview requests conveyed by the judge, unanimously endorsed nearly all of the defense team’s mitigating factors, finding that Mr. Wilson had grown up depressed, sick and trapped in a realm of poverty, deprivation, drug abuse and violence. They wrote in another factor weighing against the death penalty: "Ronell Wilson was possibly subject to peer pressure.

But they unanimously rejected the notions that he has adjusted well to federal prison, taken responsibility for his actions or "has remorse for the murder of Detectives Andrews and Nemorin."

The jury foreman, dressed in a suit and tie, gave the panel’s answers in a loud crisp voice, glancing now and again at Mr. Wilson.


link:http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/30/n...em&ex=1170306000&en=a28ffbc76dc268d3&ei=5087
 
Hell yeah I'll say it. His Ass should die, and the killer pigs should die also. Now you take up for the Cops.
 
Good read fam. I almost broke my laptop in half at this sentence right here:

After the verdict was read, the defendant, Ronell Wilson, 24, rubbed his palms, looked at his mother and then stuck his tongue out at the families of his victims.


:eek: Are you fucking kidding me? I wish they would have put that cat to sleep right there. How fucking disrespectful!
 
Its fucked up for all involved. Thats the undercover game tho. If your cover is blown, thats whats likely to happen. I feel for the victims not because they were cops because they were people. I live in this city and NYPD does so much grimey shit to negores it doesnt make any sense. Even tho this wasnt a retaliation thing I wouldnt be surprised if more cops started getting killed.
 
For the record, this isnt justice. 2 wrongs never make a right. This doesnt justify anything. There is no justification. What joy will their families get out of him dying? Its not gonna bring their family members back. I'd rather him suffer, he got the easy way out. And the comments of the families were an example of classic contradiction. How are you gonna say the "Lord rejoices" over a death sentence? Even the wicked in repentance forgive for their sins according to Christianity...So let me get this straight, the Lord can forgive but man cannot?......Backwards.
 
tech9 said:
That's just it he didn't repent.

and suffer how?? life in prison or a mental institution????? Yeah just waste my tax dollars


fuck that...let his family suffer in grief now.... :angry: ...without the expense of our tax dollars... :hmm: ..yeah...they're probablly already wasted in ways too numerous to list...but at least it won't be providing three hots and a cot for this savage... :hmm:
 
lightbright said:
fuck that...let his family suffer in grief now.... :angry: ...without the expense of our tax dollars... :hmm: ..yeah...they're probablly already wasted in ways too numerous to list...but at least it won't be providing three hots and a cot for this savage... :hmm:
he will be getting those three hots and a cot for many years to come. all the appeals and shit like that will take years.
 
doggish_098 said:
he will be getting those three hots and a cot for many years to come. all the appeals and shit like that will take years.

...yeah, I know....it's a damn shame too....but while the process goes on...maybe he'll go thru some Oz type shit....Adubisi style.... :hmm:

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Come here Ronell...lay down in the lower bunk...on your stomach...you will get used to and come to like dis...and in return...no one will harm you in here......but me.... :devil:
 
I don't like the death penalty but there's always these exceptions. Cases like this I say lethal injection is too good for him. Strap his ass into a chair and fry his ass in a vat of hot grease.

Lightbright is right something needs to be done about the mentality of the thugs running around destroying our neighboorhoods.
 
I'm sorry, this nigga deserves to die, and I hope he burns in HELL
If his ignorant ass momma raised his ass better, he wouldnt be in that situation now, but fuck it, better dead then on the streets preying on honest hard working black folk :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:
 
tech9 said:
That's just it he didn't repent.

and suffer how?? life in prison or a mental institution????? Yeah just waste my tax dollars

Dog its never too late to repent...anyways you said waste you tax dollars? It actually cost more to kill a prisoner, do your research.
 
Laughing Man said:
I'm sorry, this nigga deserves to die, and I hope he burns in HELL
If his ignorant ass momma raised his ass better, he wouldnt be in that situation now, but fuck it, better dead then on the streets preying on honest hard working black folk :angry: :angry: :angry: :angry:

How do you know what his mother did? How do you know dude didnt turn to the streets because his mother was working all day every damn day to maintain the bills when he was younger? And far as her calling the jury murderers I mean come on who's gonna stand up in court and say "my child deserves to die".
 
the death penalty in America is bullshit. This motherfucker can end up living on death row for many many years. Our justice system has proven time and time again how ill equipped they are at handling such cases. You read in the paper all the time about somebody being cleared after serving 7, 10, 15 years for a crime they didn't commit. Now if we were on some Iraqi type justice where if you're sentenced to death than you have to be executed within 24 hrs. or something then hell yeah let's go. In the meantime he gets 3 hots and a cot on our tax dollars. FUCK THAT!
 
FJP said:
What joy will their families get out of him dying? Its not gonna bring their family members back...

So let's say someone steals your car. The cops catch him and say, "We got the guy but we couldn't find the car. Should we lock him up now?"

I suppose you'd say, "No, let him go. Locking him up isn't going to bring my car back."
 
These were 34 year old cops buying guns from 16-20 year old kids. This type of police enforcement is why we have a crime problem. These kids are not criminal geniuses. They could have picked them up on the street with a uniform police car and they probably would have had a gun and some drugs on them. All this extra pretending to be hood shit has got to go. Get some real community based policing. Get officers that come from the projects and they won't need to go undercover they already know what's going on. When you have people go to the jungle that aren't from the jungle or with someone from the jungle many times they become food. It's sad but the stupidity of the police department and their outdated methods has a lot to do with this.

Had they known what everyone else knows that children in impoverished neighborhoods do not respect people they don't know. That if you go to a poor neighboorhood looking to buy illegal products and you don't know anyone there is a good chance you will get robbed.

O and buy the way murder is never justice. That family of that kid did nothing to deserve the pain they will feel.
 
It seems to me that you African Americans got a lot of hostility. In any situation you have to put events in context and not thank emotionally. If you overstand that black police officers are blue before black it seems to me you would look at this objectively. No police officer in the state of New York has ever gotten the death penalty for killing a black person. Yet you guys seem happy that the young brother may die. My argument is not so much that he deserves it our not, but if the police can kill, have killed and will kill more of my people in cold blood and not get the death penalty or even go to jail for that matter, then neither should he.

I had to look up the definition of the word Justice for you ………..

1.the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.

2.rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.

3.the moral principle determining just conduct.

4.conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.

5.the administering of deserved punishment or reward.

6.the maintenance or administration of what is just by law, as by judicial or other proceedings: a court of justice.

7.judgment of persons or causes by judicial process: to administer justice in a community.


In war you must choose sides, if you sit on the fence between two warring clans you will be shot first.


One God One Aim One Destiny.
 
Donmega said:
So let's say someone steals your car. The cops catch him and say, "We got the guy but we couldn't find the car. Should we lock him up now?"

I suppose you'd say, "No, let him go. Locking him up isn't going to bring my car back."

Dog I've actually had that happen. Wasnt a car tho. Dude stole my stereo, cops didnt find it on him. He was a bum, my stereo was gone, and he couldnt pay for it so I was dropped the charges, that shit aint doing me any good. Im not about to keep coming to court and its not gaining me anything.
 
Temujin said:
These were 34 year old cops buying guns from 16-20 year old kids. This type of police enforcement is why we have a crime problem. These kids are not criminal geniuses. They could have picked them up on the street with a uniform police car and they probably would have had a gun and some drugs on them. All this extra pretending to be hood shit has got to go. Get some real community based policing. Get officers that come from the projects and they won't need to go undercover they already know what's going on. When you have people go to the jungle that aren't from the jungle or with someone from the jungle many times they become food. It's sad but the stupidity of the police department and their outdated methods has a lot to do with this.

Had they known what everyone else knows that children in impoverished neighborhoods do not respect people they don't know. That if you go to a poor neighboorhood looking to buy illegal products and you don't know anyone there is a good chance you will get robbed.

O and buy the way murder is never justice. That family of that kid did nothing to deserve the pain they will feel.

I swear man you are one of the only brothers with open minded knowledge. These dudes dont seem to realize the undercover game. If you are undercover and your cover is blown this is what happens. If its a bad gun deal and the dudes were cops this is whats gonna happen...think about it you are BUYING guns.. Cats acting like death isnt one of the risks of being undercover.


Police system here definitely needs to be changed cause those officers were basically thrown to the wolves. Cats thats doing illegal shit are so wary of the cops that they believe everybody is a cop anyway. Then especially in this city with all the corruption and what not Im surprised this shit aint happening more often.
 
BrklynBorn said:
It seems to me that you African Americans got a lot of hostility. In any situation you have to put events in context and not thank emotionally. If you overstand that black police officers are blue before black it seems to me you would look at this objectively. No police officer in the state of New York has ever gotten the death penalty for killing a black person. Yet you guys seem happy that the young brother may die. My argument is not so much that he deserves it our not, but if the police can kill, have killed and will kill more of my people in cold blood and not get the death penalty or even go to jail for that matter, then neither should he.

I had to look up the definition of the word Justice for you ………..

1.the quality of being just; righteousness, equitableness, or moral rightness: to uphold the justice of a cause.

2.rightfulness or lawfulness, as of a claim or title; justness of ground or reason: to complain with justice.

3.the moral principle determining just conduct.

4.conformity to this principle, as manifested in conduct; just conduct, dealing, or treatment.

5.the administering of deserved punishment or reward.

6.the maintenance or administration of what is just by law, as by judicial or other proceedings: a court of justice.

7.judgment of persons or causes by judicial process: to administer justice in a community.


In war you must choose sides, if you sit on the fence between two warring clans you will be shot first.


One God One Aim One Destiny.


Man you spoke one of the truest sentences on this shit..."NO police officer has ever gotten the death penalty for killing a black person"...Shit or any person for that matter. Because you wear a badge your life is more important than mine?...I've always scoffed at that bullshit logic. Anyways once again to the dudes saying "Kill him blah blah..tax dollars"..AGAIN IT COSTS MORE MONEY TO KILL SOMEONE THAN IT DOES TO KEEP THEM IN JAIL.
 
Let me go on record and saying that I don't give a fat nasty rat's ass about the life of a New York Cop. And I'm certainly not going to applaud the continued unequal application of the death penalty in AmeriKKKa.
 
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Temujin said:
These were 34 year old cops buying guns from 16-20 year old kids. This type of police enforcement is why we have a crime problem. These kids are not criminal geniuses. They could have picked them up on the street with a uniform police car and they probably would have had a gun and some drugs on them. All this extra pretending to be hood shit has got to go. Get some real community based policing. Get officers that come from the projects and they won't need to go undercover they already know what's going on. When you have people go to the jungle that aren't from the jungle or with someone from the jungle many times they become food. It's sad but the stupidity of the police department and their outdated methods has a lot to do with this.

Had they known what everyone else knows that children in impoverished neighborhoods do not respect people they don't know. That if you go to a poor neighboorhood looking to buy illegal products and you don't know anyone there is a good chance you will get robbed.

O and buy the way murder is never justice. That family of that kid did nothing to deserve the pain they will feel.
You got to be joking with this response. Did you read the entire article or just responded to up your post count? You have given the classic example of blaming the victim(s). What's next blaming the people who died on 9/11 for going to work?

What are these kids doing with these guns to begin with?

Did anyone force this guy to shoot these men in the back of their heads?

Then you try to make the arguement that, "children in impoverished neighborhoods do not respect people they don't know." Does that give them the right to kill?

You say, "murder is never justice." Yet this guy murdered 2 men. Where's the justice for these two men?

In clear cut cases like this they should always use the death penality. But maybe if this murderer had shown some remorse your arguement would have some merit.
 
FJP said:
Man you spoke one of the truest sentences on this shit..."NO police officer has ever gotten the death penalty for killing a black person"...Shit or any person for that matter. Because you wear a badge your life is more important than mine?...I've always scoffed at that bullshit logic. Anyways once again to the dudes saying "Kill him blah blah..tax dollars"..AGAIN IT COSTS MORE MONEY TO KILL SOMEONE THAN IT DOES TO KEEP THEM IN JAIL.

exactly. this country is going to shit b/c of its mentality. never been civil, never even tried to. Klan changed from white to blue
 
i'm one of those smart mofo's that went to college and got my lessons. went to church and led a decent life. i also spent time in and on he streets. i've worked in the justice system and know how corrupt and biased it is. for any man to impose the death penalty on another is unjust because we suppose that that person is morally capable of deciding who dies and who lives. these crakka ass judges and prosecutors are full of shit and are basically some assholes. i've had a brother murdered and another killed in a hit and run drunk driving accident and yet i have not the impeccable moral standing neccessary to impose state sanctioned murder. i cant say that i wouldnt carry out some street justice if the circumstances warranted it..but for the court system as it exists to continue to execute people and let more heinous crimes and criminals escape the ultimate penalty points out the flaws in the system.
 
lightbright said:
While it may be considered two wrongs don't make a right..this needs to be done...fuck his lawyer saying that he didn't know that they were cops...they were two human beings killed execution style, shot in the back of their heads.....too many young bucks with the thug/gangster mentality runnin amok.....Give me the needle..Like Robin Harris said: "Gotta go...GOTTA GO"...fuck gimme a porcupine so that I can dip it in cynaide and just line the fucks up for me... :angry: :smh: :smh:


You showing your age playa. Mofo quoting Robin Harris in here. Let that bastard ride the lightning. Give him the Edward Delacroix treatment from Green Mile.
 
coolie569 said:
the death penalty in America is bullshit. This motherfucker can end up living on death row for many many years. Our justice system has proven time and time again how ill equipped they are at handling such cases. You read in the paper all the time about somebody being cleared after serving 7, 10, 15 years for a crime they didn't commit. Now if we were on some Iraqi type justice where if you're sentenced to death than you have to be executed within 24 hrs. or something then hell yeah let's go. In the meantime he gets 3 hots and a cot on our tax dollars. FUCK THAT!

Dog, did you just contradict the fuck out of yourself or what? So, in your mind, the best way to handle innocent people on death row is to speed up the process? I mean, those cats that got freed after 7, 10, 15 years had to LIVE 7, 10, 15 to do so right, or am I fucked up in the head on this?
 
tech9 said:
Would you feel the same if Ronell killed one of your immediate family members???

truth of the matter is its doesn't matter if they were cops he killed 2 people in cold blood


See I knew folks would try to pull out that cops vs black folks BS

Those cops could have been 4 shorties for all I care.

Dog, you know as well as I do that if Ronell had killed your loved one or mine, he would NOT be on death row, so your argument is pretty much moot. Most people that support the death penalty are NOT people whose lives or loved one's lives would qualify for it. Hell, most of our lives aren't worth a "life without parole" sentence. So the shit is NOT applied fairly or equitably and it places the value of some people's lives over those of others. Unless you want to go as far as to say "kill all the killers" then I ain't for it. You either do shit like that right, or don't do it at all.
 
Temujin said:
These were 34 year old cops buying guns from 16-20 year old kids. This type of police enforcement is why we have a crime problem. These kids are not criminal geniuses. They could have picked them up on the street with a uniform police car and they probably would have had a gun and some drugs on them. All this extra pretending to be hood shit has got to go. Get some real community based policing. Get officers that come from the projects and they won't need to go undercover they already know what's going on. When you have people go to the jungle that aren't from the jungle or with someone from the jungle many times they become food. It's sad but the stupidity of the police department and their outdated methods has a lot to do with this.

Had they known what everyone else knows that children in impoverished neighborhoods do not respect people they don't know. That if you go to a poor neighboorhood looking to buy illegal products and you don't know anyone there is a good chance you will get robbed.

O and buy the way murder is never justice. That family of that kid did nothing to deserve the pain they will feel.

1. Not many people from the hood want to be cops, so your point doesn't make sense.

2. Marked police vehicles can be seen a mile away. These kids are always on the look-out for that.

3. Due to various laws against unlawful search and seizure, undercover work is absolutely necessary to arrest people for these type of crimes, since no one is going to stand up and dime these people out for the dirt they do.

In conclusion, you points only serve to make my overall point; people like to complain about the crime in their neighborhood, but will do nothing to be part of the solution.
 
Undercover is always risky and physical harm is a constant. Undercovers have to "partake" in illegal activities to get that case.

I am suprised more cops don't get merked.

Did Ronell kill in cold blood. Yes he did.

Should Ronell have justice done unto him. Indeed. How that justice should be administered is not up to me or anyone else on here. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

If the state executes Ronell, it will cost. If they incarcerate him for life the taxpayers foot the bill. However keeping Ronell alive means that he is now a legal slave (according to the US Constitution) and his labor can be exploited for the good of numerous corporations.
 
I'm glad I don't live in New York. If this shit was in the news our black asses are infor it. If I stayed in New York I would keep a low profiles cause you know them cops are feenin to kill a brotha. :(
 
Vengence is mine, saith the Lord.

Not ours.

We are not a nation of vengence. We do not kill criminals merely to "get back at them." We do it as a deterrent. So that other potentially violent criminals will consider the consequences and rethink their actions.

Yeah, right.

It's not about our wanting to kill them .... and yet we put them on suicide watch during those final days so that they won't steal our opportunity to watch them die.
 
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