Dave Chapelle - Unforgiven (Don’t stream Chapelle Show Anymore!!!!)

Monique threw people under the bus who didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus and that's why it was perceived differently.

I didn't disagree with her from day 1 I agree with her stance get your money

However she didn't just appeal to her fanbase innocently and without scorching the earth of other people let's not act like that happened.

Dave got blackballed for a few years after Chapelle show and he didn't mention that once in this did he?

Monique -- did scorch earth on folks and still is right now that's just how she does it I ain't here to say her way is right or wrong but it ain't the same.
scorched earth on who?
 
Bgol legal team

Lawyers ALWAYS get the blame when something goes wrong

Dave basically saying he got BAD COUNSEL

so legally speaking

What SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HERE?

do you believe dave version of events?

What could be done now?
legally nothing thats why dave is going this route...he's leveraging his popularity and hoping his fanbase has his back and boycotts the show (which is really boycotting hbo...lets be honest)
 
You and Dave got something in common...Asian wife. @Dr. Truth

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Right.

All of those things are true.
It was a perfect storm at the time.
He didn't like season 3 and the way it had become a character when it was always us laughing at how ridiculous white people think black people are.


Next, he signed a bad contract --- but the bad part was the upfront payment, the good part was since it was bad pay he would get a good amount on the DVD sales and since its an upstart they were happy to do it (See Downey Jr's pieces of the Marvel Franchise )

The DVD was immediately #1 all-time Both season and only selling more. His percentage of DVD sales is what they didn't honor.
Now the tricky part is this... remember his part about "name in the universe etc" there apparently was a clause where basically it was saying the % he was owed was simply too much money.

So yeah technically they did what they did legally but also it wasn't in the spirit of honoring the contract (when a football player gets released you don't get the rest of the contract, it's def not what you agreed to when you signed it but they pulled out the card to rob you and they did and nothing you can do)

SO after they did this, they came through with the $50m offer which he was considering doing obviously
But that married to the whole he's being robbed and also the entire what the fuck nature of all these white people laughing AT HIM, not at themselves ruined it.

He even had a skit on season 3 making fun of him making $50m and how people treat him differently.


So he leaves and then they say he's crazy etc --- the power of the media cause people believed he'd lost his mind because he went to Africa- -- let's think on that for a minute. If he'd gone to Europe it would've been just fine

But he didn't get the money for the DVD
Comedy Central even aired the unpolished unfinished version of season 3 without his approvals on the skits --- because a lot of skits don't make the chopping blocks, we see the best they just put some shit out to cash in.

And then proceeded to give HIS SHOW to 5 or 6 people trying to replicate the success and it didn't come close (Kroll, Schumer, Mencia)

Thank you for the breakdown
 
Monique threw people under the bus who didn't deserve to be thrown under the bus and that's why it was perceived differently.

I didn't disagree with her from day 1 I agree with her stance get your money

However she didn't just appeal to her fanbase innocently and without scorching the earth of other people let's not act like that happened.

Dave got blackballed for a few years after Chapelle show and he didn't mention that once in this did he?

Monique -- did scorch earth on folks and still is right now that's just how she does it I ain't here to say her way is right or wrong but it ain't the same.

Dave signed a bad contract, DVD made tons of money which apparently he didn’t get any of. He didn’t like the reaction to the skits so he bounced. Apparently he bounced also because he wasn’t getting his fair share due to a bad contract.

Amy Schumer was one of the hottest\biggest comedians out. Sold out Madison Squre Garden twice which not many male comedians can do. 100 million dollar movies at the box office. Due to her current accolades at the time, she felt her Netflix offer was low so they renegotiated.

FOR THE SLOW, I DO NOT LIKE AMY SCHUMER. I DO NOT THINK SHE’S FUNNY AND I DO NOT SUPPORT HER.

Mo’Nique was performing in 800 seaters, won an Oscar in 2010 and it wasn’t for comedy and compared her offer to those who were getting paid the most in that field. She didn’t know the salaries of other comedians other than the ones that were made public.

I want Mo’Nique to win and I wish the best for her. I just didn’t agree with her comparing her offer to those in the top of the game.
 
They didn't honor the contract that's the point.


He had a deal to make a percentage. They gave him that deal thinking it'd be a steal. It ended up meaning they had to pay him hundreds of millions. They offered him 50 instead.

He said fuck that.

They are the ones who didn't honor the contract but then put out the narrative he turned down a generous offer .

It wasn't generous it was trash
Thats not true at all. They did not owe Dave any money and didn’t do him wrong because they fulfilled his contract.

You can’t cry foul when someone fronts millions of dollars to create something for you, especially after you signed a contract.
 
Bgol legal team

Lawyers ALWAYS get the blame when something goes wrong

Dave basically saying he got BAD COUNSEL

so legally speaking

What SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HERE?

do you believe dave version of events?

What could be done now?
Simple business 101. Who ever puts up the money receives the bulk of the profits.

If the show flopped and Lose millions, would Dave help pay to cover the losses?
 
Yup, I'm with Dave.

seems like he was SERIOUS about these Nigga Lessons

@GAMBINO break down how this is even possible to own EVERYTHING FOREVER.
Yeah bro I got a contract from a company a few years ago called Wanda Entertainment. They basically give me money upfront but they grandkids and great great great grandkids will eat off of my shit forever so I passed on the deal. Which worked out cause they went out of business and got bought out by Alibaba Pictures.
 
Sounds like Dave got caught out like many "artist" do with a technology shift, he had a contract that did not stipulate percentages for DVD sales, the DVD personal buying boom was just begining. No one was streaming, there are languages that talk about future tech but its often left vague so that I can be argued in the benefit of the company.

His argument is fairness, not contractual, but there is no fairness (only contractual)in business. All he can do is apply pressure, it may or may not work.

I'm not arguing in favor of large business, there is no loyalty. I hate when companies say that they are a family, thats a lie we need to stop telling.

There was a big issue with the advent of syndication of TV shows, originally no one thought anyone would rewatch old shows. Artist, writers, and such had to sue networks for residuals.
 
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scorched earth on who?

Will Packer for 1.
Will Packer does his best to put black people on -- men and women and she tried to play him like he was trash when she was mad
He still ain't even respond to the fuck shit she said trying to expose emails about him trying to see about a part in a movie.
 
Thats not true at all. They did not owe Dave any money and didn’t do him wrong because they fulfilled his contract.

You can’t cry foul when someone fronts millions of dollars to create something for you, especially after you signed a contract.
How much money did Dave put up to get equal share?


This is the only position you always take and it ain't working out for you lolololol
 
Will Packer for 1.
Will Packer does his best to put black people on -- men and women and she tried to play him like he was trash when she was mad
He still ain't even respond to the fuck shit she said trying to expose emails about him trying to see about a part in a movie.
I don't know the intricacies of their interactions so I can't speak on way or the other about that but i do know that when you have people trying to spread rumors about you and people operating as if those rumors are true it makes you wanna fight as dirty as they do.
 
I could legit listen to Chapelle talk all day.
He’s a phenomenal story teller.
And an excellent teacher.
He's just sounding like a typical mature black man with a deep mix of humor. Take the humor out and its just plain old common sense.
You watch Dave on stage and not laugh; and you'll still be entertained. He's in a class by himself.
nope not true...plenty of comedians that you may have this experienced this with. If not, ok but Chappelle is not in a class by himself.
 
This is the only position you always take and it ain't working out for you lolololol
Actually he is right. How was Dave done wrong? Dave has plenty of material outside of the DC show that he was paid for but it did not take off. He ain't crying about taking that off the air now is he? The sad reality IF the DC show is his greatest hits, he's in trouble.
 
That was some powerful shit. Dude is one of the greatest to hold a microphone. His demands will not go ignored I believe

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Netflix removes Chappelle’s Show after Dave Chappelle asked it to
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The show is no longer available on the platform
By Nick Statt@nickstatt Nov 24, 2020, 2:10pm EST

Photo by Evelyn Hockstein/For The Washington Post via Getty Images

Comedian Dave Chappelle has succeeded in getting his old sketch comedy program Chappelle’s Show removed from Netflix, after requesting the streaming service do so because the original rights holder, ViacomCBS, began licensing it without his permission.

The news means Netflix subscribers will no longer have access to the show’s three seasons that originally aired on Comedy Central. Netflix first made the show available on November 1st, and it’s no longer discoverable on the platform as of Tuesday afternoon. Netflix declined to comment.

“THEY AGREED THAT THEY WOULD TAKE IT OFF THEIR PLATFORM JUST SO I COULD FEEL BETTER.”

Chappelle’s Show aired on ViacomCBS-owned Comedy Central from 2003 to 2006 and the program has aired in the years since on other cable networks through syndication deals. It has also been available through Comedy Central’s own website and app, but more recently on streaming services including CBS All Access (also a ViacomCBS property), HBO Max, and Netflix. Chappelle has a controversial relationship to the program, having quit it abruptly during production of its third season, and he does not own the rights to it despite it carrying his name.

Netflix, however, also has a lucrative contract with Chappelle for comedy specials and other programming that started back in 2016 and is worth tens of millions of dollars. The Wrap reports that Chappelle’s ongoing relationship with Netflix is why the streaming service decided to honor his request and pull his old show from the platform. The show is still available on CBS All Access and HBO Max as of Tuesday.

Chappelle initially mentioned his frustration with recent licensing deals around Chappelle’s Show in his Saturday Night Live monologue earlier this month. The comedian then posted an 18-minute clip of unreleased standup, titled “Unforgiven,” to his Instagram account earlier today.

In the clip, Chappelle references his request to Netflix, saying, “I called them and I told them that this makes me feel bad. And you want to know what they did? They agreed that they would take it off their platform just so I could feel better.” He also called the decision to stream Chappelle’s Show “fencing stolen goods.”

Here’s the segment of the Instagram video starting at roughly the 11-minute mark that pertains to the Netflix request:

There is a lot to unpack in this statement and I call bullshit on DC. He signed a contract as DC statement himself and it was perfectly legal for them to re-sell, re-pkg, re-etc the show WITHOUT PAYING HIM AGAIN. DC signed a legit contract back them that did not include future royalties rights from streaming. That's on DC and his management, not NETFLIX. It's not a right or wrong thing, it's a contract that he agreed with and signed before any content was created. He is crying like the Lox, Prince and too many artist AFTER THE FACT. It could have easily went the other way. Nobody did DC wrong. He is complaining after the fact. He wants to re-write history on a bad contract after the fact. If DC was about this business he would have signed better contracts going forward after the fact, instead of trolling after NETFLIX to do what they are in their rights to do which was to purchase content, pay the legit copyright holder of the content and to reap the benefits of the contract they signed.

When DC wants NETFLIX TO stop streaming the show, what he is asking is for them to interfere with whomever else is receiving residuals to stop getting paid. How does that sound? DC is the biggest name but if there are others who receive royalties/residuals from the DC show, it's fucked up that DC is asking for their $$$ to stop also. Fuck that!! I bet you are comfortable with another person who eats from the same plate to stop that $$$ from coming to you, because they signed their own fucked up contract and want to stop your money when you did nothing to warrant it.

What DC did and is doing is selfish. Because as a more mature man, he's signed a better contract with Netflix and using his leverage to get them to stop making money on another one of his projects because DC ain't getting a piece of the money. Netflix is agreeing because they feel its better to keep DC happy while they are in business, until that period comes to an end. If you listen to what DC is asking, i'ts a bitch move on his part and totally selfish. Similar but not same shit Monique was being accused of , which is being selfish. Because DC got clout today, he want s to retroactively go back and benefit from something he did not have the foresight to anticipate and don't care if others are negatively impacted also. I like DC and his comedy but this is pure selfish bullshit on his part.
 
This is the only position you always take and it ain't working out for you lolololol
There is no position to take. You can’t cry about other peoples money. Comedy Central fronted the millions for the show and took all the risk. Dave didn’t put up any money. Of course Comedy Central will eat better off the deal. They fronted the millions. It is simple business 101

Once the show starts making money you can’t become entitled thinking you deserve more after signing a contract . If Dave wants a sliding contract then he would need to be responsible for all the losses as well. You can’t be like, if the show makes a ton of money you deserve more but when the show losses money that is on you.

If he wants an equal share he needs to purchase his rights back which is the same as dropping equity into the deal.
 
Bgol legal team

Lawyers ALWAYS get the blame when something goes wrong

Dave basically saying he got BAD COUNSEL

so legally speaking

What SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE HERE?

do you believe dave version of events?

What could be done now?
He said they conspired against him. He didn't have bad counsel. Counselor was a bad faith actor; a Confederate.
 
Right.

All of those things are true.
It was a perfect storm at the time.
He didn't like season 3 and the way it had become a character when it was always us laughing at how ridiculous white people think black people are.


Next, he signed a bad contract --- but the bad part was the upfront payment, the good part was since it was bad pay he would get a good amount on the DVD sales and since its an upstart they were happy to do it (See Downey Jr's pieces of the Marvel Franchise )

The DVD was immediately #1 all-time Both season and only selling more. His percentage of DVD sales is what they didn't honor.
Now the tricky part is this... remember his part about "name in the universe etc" there apparently was a clause where basically it was saying the % he was owed was simply too much money.

So yeah technically they did what they did legally but also it wasn't in the spirit of honoring the contract (when a football player gets released you don't get the rest of the contract, it's def not what you agreed to when you signed it but they pulled out the card to rob you and they did and nothing you can do)

SO after they did this, they came through with the $50m offer which he was considering doing obviously
But that married to the whole he's being robbed and also the entire what the fuck nature of all these white people laughing AT HIM, not at themselves ruined it.

He even had a skit on season 3 making fun of him making $50m and how people treat him differently.


So he leaves and then they say he's crazy etc --- the power of the media cause people believed he'd lost his mind because he went to Africa- -- let's think on that for a minute. If he'd gone to Europe it would've been just fine

But he didn't get the money for the DVD
Comedy Central even aired the unpolished unfinished version of season 3 without his approvals on the skits --- because a lot of skits don't make the chopping blocks, we see the best they just put some shit out to cash in.

And then proceeded to give HIS SHOW to 5 or 6 people trying to replicate the success and it didn't come close (Kroll, Schumer, Mencia)
god damn nxgga. that was a helluva breakdown. thank you.
 
Netflix has removed Dave Chappelle’s comedy sketch series “Chappelle’s Show” after the comedian requested them to do so.


Chappelle revealed the news in a lengthy Instagram video called “Unforgiven,” which featured footage from a recent stand-up gig. During the performance, Chappelle claimed he “never got paid” after leaving the ViacomCBS-owned show.


“They (ViacomCBS) didn’t have to pay me because I signed the contract,” Chappelle said in the video. “But is that right? I found out that these people were streaming my work and they never had to ask me or they never have to tell me. Perfectly legal ‘cause I signed the contract. But is that right? I didn’t think so either. That’s why I like working for Netflix. I like working for Netflix because when all those bad things happened to me, that company didn’t even exist. And when I found out they were streaming ‘Chappelle’s Show,’ I was furious. How could they not– how could they not know? So you know what I did? I called them and I told them that this makes me feel bad. And you want to know what they did? They agreed that they would take it off their platform just so I could feel better.”



 
He said they conspired against him. He didn't have bad counsel. Counselor was a bad faith actor; a Confederate.
This, they were all in on it, his counsel included.


I would say this...his lawyers may not have been in cahoots with CC...they just didn't care...they convinced him to sign a bad deal because they wanted that commission more than they cared about how it would actually affect him.

Could race have been a factor...sure but we've seen cacs get fucked over (ie taylor swift)
could his lawyers been in on it with CC...lawyers in a given circle are all familiar with and cross paths with each other so that's very possible

But I think at the end of the day they just didn't give a shit and encouraged him to sign something so they can get their percentage.
 
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