Daunte Wright Police Kill Another Unarmed Man In Minneapolis (Story Developing)

Nope, the US is not a socialist country and there is no need to try to play contrarian and call our military a socialist program. Collecting taxes doesnt make a country a socialist country.

But thats another topic for another thread.

US is a mixed economy just like China is a mixed economy. Even Cuba's economy has capitalist elements; they just call the business owners cuentapropistas "self employed" instead of owner. :lol: Start a new thread on this shit. I have had time to read some interesting books recently on the subject.
 
You don’t know what “Sympathy” means and if you did you’d know that it doesn’t apply to anything that I said.:thumbsup:
u were ascribing sympathetic intentions to her actions as if u were present in her mind at the time... thats what sympathy sounds like ,
u automatically accepted her bs explanation without scrutiny and decided to push her explanation on us to accept it as facts...for what purpose ?
 
The black cop that killed a white woman in Minnesota got charged with Second degree manslaughter AND 3rd degree murder. He got convicted of both charges.

It was an accidental shooting as well.

"Prosecutors painted Noor as a poorly trained officer who panicked and made a reckless decision to fire his weapon at an unarmed woman when there really was no danger."

If the murder charge doesn't stick, you still have the manslaughter charge.



He was non-white... different rules. Unless you get an all black jury, you won't get a conviction of a white female officer for murder in this case. it's fucked up but it's the reality.

what's fucked up is that I knew that black cop was going to get convicted even though it was one of the weaker cases.
 
The black cop that killed a white woman in Minnesota got charged with Second degree manslaughter AND 3rd degree murder. He got convicted of both charges.

It was an accidental shooting as well.

"Prosecutors painted Noor as a poorly trained officer who panicked and made a reckless decision to fire his weapon at an unarmed woman when there really was no danger."

If the murder charge doesn't stick, you still have the manslaughter charge.



She better be sentenced just like him!

I remember that case very well, they don’t fuck around when it’s one of us.
 
I’m not running around in sweatpants or hoop shorts armed. Inside or outside holster with trigger guard or shoulder if I’m wearing the P320. It’s about being responsible, trained, and having the correct tools for the job.

I can dig it.
 


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Spurs coach Gregg Popovich on Daunte Wright shooting: 'It just makes you sick to your stomach'
Mark Medina
USA TODAY

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For about 5½ minutes, San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich spoke while showing visible anger. He became increasingly frustrated as he processed a Minneapolis police officer fatally shooting Daunte Wright, an unarmed Black man during a traffic stop.

"It just makes you sick to your stomach. How many times does it have to happen?" Popovich said before the Spurs’ game against the Orlando Magic on Monday. "As sick to our stomachs that we might feel, that individual is dead. He’s dead. And his family is grieving. And his friends are grieving. And we just keep moving on as if nothing is happening."

Popovich talked in depth about the United States’ problems with racism, police brutality and school shootings, along with poignant criticism toward Republican legislators and former President Donald Trump.


"We see what’s happening with policing and Black men and some other people of color," Popovich said. "With the massacres of our children, it’s the same thing. It goes on and on, and everybody says, 'When is it going to be enough?' Of course, I don’t have those answers. But the people who continually fight to maintain that status quo are not good people."


Popovich described Texas Governor Greg Abbott as "deplorable" and "a liar" for various reasons, including his resistance to stricter gun laws, relaxing safety protocols to mitigate the coronavirus and perpetuating unfounded claims of fraud in the 2020 presidential election.

"Do these people have grandchildren? Do they want their grandchildren to go to work and go to school and go through these drills and worry about being murdered?" Popovich said. "What does it take? Then care more about them than your freaking power and your position and your donors. With policing, it’s the same damn way. How many young Black kids have to be killed for no freaking reason? How many so that we can empower the police units? We need to find out who funds these people. I want to know what owners in the NBA fund these people who perpetrate these lies. Maybe that’s a good place to start so it’s all transparent."

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich
For the past year, the NBA and its players have become increasingly outspoken on systemic racism, including police brutality.

The Milwaukee Bucks staged a walkout before a playoff game against the Orlando Magic last summer in the NBA bubble a day after Kenosha, Wisconsin, police officers shot Jacob Blake seven times. The Minnesota Timberwolves and Brooklyn Nets also postponed their game on Monday. The NBA still hosted eight other games on Monday and has required players, coaches and team staff members to stand during the national anthem. Still, the Spurs and Magic locked arms during the national anthem before their game.


The NBA has also enabled its coaches and players to speak out on social justice issues. Philadelphia 76ers coach Doc Rivers, who is one of the league’s eight Black head coaches, has become one of the most outspoken.

"We keep hearing this cancel culture stuff, but we’re cancelling Black lives. To me, that’s more important in my opinion," Rivers said before Monday’s game against the Dallas Mavericks. "It just keeps happening. We keep making mistakes and killing Black people. I don’t want to get into race, but it’s there. I think we all have weaknesses. But I think we need to confront them and find out how we can make this place a better world and a better country. To me, improving our culture as a society is really important. Not cancelling it, but improving it. Other countries have done a terrific job."


Rivers then brought up how Germany enacted various reparation policies after the Nazi regime was defeated in World War II.

"You don’t see swastikas. You don’t see statues or Nazi soldiers all around," Rivers said. "They don’t say that’s cancel culture. They say that’s improving their culture. I think we need to think more in those terms."
 
Heeeeere we go. Smear the victim.


Strong armed robbery is a pretty heavy crime, IF TRUE. Maybe he knew he had the outstanding warrant and didn't want to head back jail for parole violations. He should still be alive though, regardless.
 
No offense dude but you’re slower than square wheels.

I’ve already written enough about this incident for one to fully understand what I’m saying. If you don’t understand, there’s nothing else left for me to say.

She either fucked up, or she murdered him on purpose and yelled out taser at the time of the shooting so that she wouldn’t be prosecuted.

That’s it.
an insult back doesn't negate the fact you're not very bright.

and you just dismissed all the facts I stated to rely on an accident just because of a video.

you think they just play a video in court and no one gets interviewed and the jury decides right then and there?

You tried to make this emotionally based and I hit you with logic, and of course, there's nothing else to say because you lost the argument.

As you were.
 
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He was non-white... different rules. Unless you get an all black jury, you won't get a conviction of a white female officer for murder in this case. it's fucked up but it's the reality.

what's fucked up is that I knew that black cop was going to get convicted even though it was one of the weaker cases.

The irony with that case is that the officer was Somali so he only discovered he was "black" once he was found guilty...
 
This is my take on all of this shit.

Whether it be the cops, military, prison/jail personnel etc. all of this shit is essentially a bail out for low education/low skill cacs who previously would have been in a now non-existent blue collar manufacturing job. We have the highest incarceration rate in the world (639 per 100K and 2 million more than in 1972 :smh: ) and we spend more on the military as % of GDP than every other country but Israel, Russia or Saudi Arabia. :smh:

Cacs are always going to be cacs but we have gone from Reagan/Bush cacs to Trump cacs because every idiot cac with a pulse is no longer guaranteed a middle/upper middle class lifestyle. They lash out more as they realize the the lifestyle their parents/grandparents had is not likely.

Until you see an actual reduction in the number of prisons, law enforcement officers, military etc. everything being said is just smoke and mirrors.

I am 40+ but took what was essentially a radical literature class in college. One of things that still sticks with me is that idea that anything/everything potentially threatening or revolutionary will eventually be coopted and used for the purposes of the "system". I think about that when I see all of the organizations/corporations/institutions that stood for Black Lives last summer; literally nothing has changed despite the emails I get from all of them reminding me to support Black Businesses etc...
 
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Slips and capture: Explanation or excuse for Taser confusion?
(FOX 9) - How does a veteran police officer unintentionally fire her handgun mistaking it for her Taser stun gun?

It is one of the troubling questions investigators and prosecutors will need to answer about the killing of Daunte Wright.

Is slips and capture an explanation or an excuse for Taser confusion?
How does a veteran police officer unintentionally fire her handgun mistaking it for her Taser stun gun?    It is one of the troubling questions investigators and prosecutors will need to answer about the killing of Daunte Wright.  



"This was an accidental discharge that resulted in the tragic death of Mr. Wright," said Brooklyn Center Police Chief Tom Gannon at a press conference Monday, before submitting his resignation Tuesday.

The officer who fired her weapon, Kimberly Potter, a 26-year veteran, resigned Monday. She was charged Wednesday with second-degree involuntary manslaughter.


Daunte Wright police shooting body camera video released
Daunte Wright shooting bodycam video was released April 12 by the Brooklyn Center, Minnesota Police Department. Brooklyn Center Police Chief Tim Gannon said it was an accidental discharge, that the officer who shot Wright had intended to reach for a taser, but discharged a handgun instead.
Protestors have been incredulous at the description of the killing of Wright as "an accident."

In police training circles its known as "slip and capture," when a police officer under stress reverts to established patterns, and unintentionally reaches for their handgun instead of their Taser.

It has happened 18 times in the last 20 years, according to a former Texas police officer who tracks cases of handgun/Taser confusion.

"All these cases have one shot, which is a big clue," said Greg Meyer, a former captain and trainer with the Los Angeles Police Department.

Unlike a firearm, a Taser fires only a single shot, attaching a wired talon carrying a disabling electrical current to a suspect.

"Their attention slips off the track and they end up drawing their handgun, which they have more practice at, and they end up firing one shot," Meyer said.

The concept of "slip and capture" has been popularized by Prof. Bill Lewinski of the Force Science Institute in Mankato, who claims to bring scientific rigor to police training. Others say he pedals pseudo-science and mischaracterizes research.

Meyer and Lewinski were both expert witnesses for the defense in the trial of Bay Area Rapid Transit Officer (BART) Johannes Mehserle, who on Jan. 1, 2009 shot and killed Oscar Grant, after reaching for his handgun instead of his Taser.

Mehserle was charged with murder, but the testimony of Meyer and Lewinski was considered key in the jury finding the officer guilty of involuntary manslaughter.

In Tulsa, a 73-year-old deputy reserve officer, Charles Bates, was also convicted of involuntary manslaughter after killing Eric Harris, 44. Bates claimed he thought he was holding his Taser.

Bates shot Harris while he was on the ground being restrained.

Meyer, who has not seen the body camera video of Wright’s killing, is cautious about drawing parallels to other cases.

"Each case must be decided on its own merit," he said.

Other experts on police use of force are skeptical of the ‘slips and capture’ concept.

"The problem is, this is impossible to test," said Seth Stoughton, a use of force expert who testified in the Derek Chauvin trial on Monday.

In a wide-ranging interview last summer about research coming out of the Force Science Institute, Stoughton described ‘slips and capture’ as pseudo-science.

"It's a theory, but you can’t look at any one incident and say, ‘Oh, that was slips and capture’ and therefore it is okay, as opposed to ‘That was a hideously unreasonable mistake and therefore it is not okay,’" Stoughton said.

Howard Williams, a former police chief in San Marcos, Texas has collected data from press reports on ‘slips and capture’ from around the country. He provided his data to the FOX 9 Investigators.

Of the 18 weapon confusion cases he has identified in the last 20 years, five cases were fatal.

Six cases led to various criminal charges of involuntary manslaughter or assault. There were only three convictions, one plea bargain, one acquittal.

According to Williams’ data, there may be a common human error in many of the cases.

In 11 cases the officer’s dominant hand crossed over, and they incorrectly grabbed a handgun where their Taser should have been.

Most officers are trained to keep their firearm on their dominant side, on the right if they are right-handed, and their Taser on their less dominant side.

"The best way Dr. Lewinski and I could come up with to prevent this is to use one hand to grab your Taser, and the other hand to get your gun, and it would greatly reduce this problem," said Meyer, the former LAPD captain.

Axon, the maker of Taser, declined to talk about the specifics of the Wright case. But in a statement to FOX 9 said, "Although very rare, there have been isolated incidents of an officer accidentally using their firearm instead of their TASER energy weapon."

The statement said the Arizona based company has taken several precautions over the years by giving the Taser a different grip, look, and feel, than a firearm and a different kind of holster.

From the body camera video, it is unclear where former Brooklyn Center Police Officer Kimberly Potter had her Taser holstered. Brooklyn Center Police did not respond to questions about the model of Taser she was using.

 



The good apples are afraid of going against the system for fear of retaliation... they know that if they speak out or try to stop shit from happening then suddenly no one will have their back when needed and they may be set up for a fall by the system... we've seen examples of this happening to the good ones over the years.... however let's hope that the brave and good ones continues to do the right thing in the name of fairness and justice.
 
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