DACA versus the black struggle
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I gotta say, the more i hear about this and the current shit with separating kids from families, the less i care. It's hard for me to cape for a culture that gets here and is allowed to slide under the radar, work under the table, drive illegally, etc, and not see caping for them when we got our now struggles making any sense. Not saying i dont care at all, but they are trying to sneak into country that we are struggling to survive in. To them its a choice, with us, there is no choice. They know Trump hates them, yet they still come and risk it all. We risk it all just leaving the house, or eating at a waffle house. Our struggle should never be compared to their as our wasn't our choice, and theirs is.
You don't have to compare struggles to be able to stick up for another group. Just make sure you get something in return.
I agree to a degree. i dont expect anything in return as i view them as a race that would turn their backs on us first chance they get.
I'm absolutely against DACA and its recipients!
I'm against all immigration chain, lottery and anything else.
Until we:
Illegal immigrants have no protection via the constitution as they were never permitted domicile.
I'm against all immigration chain, lottery and anything else.
Until we:
- verify who is here legally
- or illegally.
- Why you are here,
- for what purpose,
- where are you located.
Illegal immigrants have no protection via the constitution as they were never permitted domicile.
You make no sense, because daca answers all your questions.
I'm not in favor of DACA period or anyone currently a DACA recipient!
The other parameters I spoke of are in regards to all the other illegals here.
Please allow me my opinion and you can have yours.
You're probably right.
But might you feel differently if you sold a product or service where many of your customers were in the DACA program? Would you actively support their path to citizenship if it increased your bottom line?
Folks going to get enough of these democrat talking points meant to further the party and not the black community. 
It is not just that they come here, but they vote Republican and routinely shit on black people. Trump got more Latino votes than Romney.
Exactly, from mexicans to cubans, it is what it is. Puerto ricans about to overpopulate Florida and NY, they dont like to claim their brownness either, so they might vote Recuntlican even though trump fucked em over.
Those bullet points are the same questions US border patrol asks every single person trying to enter the country. Yet most illegal immigrants originally entered legally.
Regardless, how the hell do you deport 11 million people? That would be like trying to deport the entire state of Georgia. In fact, lets suppose we did that. Tired of all the murderers and rapists and other criminals living in Georgia we decide to immediately deport all current residents of that state and send them to Mexico.
First thing you would need is an entire army of ICE agents to round up the people, incarcerate and guard them.
Thousands of field agents to track down Georgia residents who happened to be out of town at the time. Expect many of these residents to lie, change their name, forge documents, or whatever else they need to not get caught.
Thousands of judges to decide who was actually a resident of Georgia and not just visiting the state during the last roundup.
Assuming you could pull this off you would lower your tax base, destroy industry, and lose the trust of any American that had friends or family living in Georgia. It would be extremely expensive, horribly cruel, and what would you gain? On a practical level deporting 11 million illegal immigrants really isn't much different, except that they are scattered all over the country.
Danny,
Eloquently stated but I absolutely do not agree!
They can be removed from this country if the current laws on the books are enforced. It was done before with "operation wetback". It has been done around the world down through history "The Highland Clearance".
We just see this differently.
Your opinion means nothing to fact. You posited an idea of what you would like to see happen with immigrants. I simply told you that the answer to what you proposed was already in effect with DACA.
But Puerto Ricans don't vote Republican, so your statement is a mute point. They always vote democratic. And they have never said that they are not partially black. It's not like they act like the Dominicans.
A complete police state will have to be created along with suspension of the 4th amendment and habeas corpus, and the creation of massive internment camps. Should the American people stand for such a movement to remove immigrants and should it be successful. Who here really thinks that the governmental apparatus of such a program will dismantled. 11 million people being removed is trail of tears Exodus level.
The current laws on the books allow illegal immigrants amnesty from deportation as long as they have a pending application for legal status. This includes every DACA participant as well. Clearly it's the law you have a problem with both the enforcement and the law.
So which laws would you like to change? What should be the criteria for which immigrants are accepted or rejected?
"A complete police state will have to be created"
The Police State is already here. As a matter of fact the entire world is a police state
"along with suspension of the 4th amendment and habeas corpus"
Where have you been the PATRIOT ACT and NDAA took care of all that along with the powers of FEMA and Presidential Executive power to take control of:
- Total Food supply
- All Travel
- All Roads
- All modes of transportation
- All Communication
- Blanket arrest warrants
- Suspension of the Constitution
- Suspension of all elections
- Organize the population into work brigades
- Interment camps
- relocation of populations
- Take Control of all banking and funds
- Google interment camps or FEMA camps they already have them.
- Several very large ones all over the country.
- They have camps here in CA
- Some of the largest are supposed to be in Alaska.
- The larger ones are supposed to be capable of holding almost 2 million people.
- The American People are scared, poor, stupid and politically ignorant as a whole
- You see how they got all theses dumb mutha fucka following a bunch of dykes and fags in blm. Believing these controlled stooges can lead them to freedom, justice and equality
- They believes the narrative still 1 lone gunman killed JFK, RFK, MLK
- the frame work for mass internment in FEMA and Internment camps has been in place for decades
- it was never dismantled and never will be
- Joseph Stalin-"THE DEATH OF 1 PERSON IS A TRAGEDY. THE DEATH OF 1 MILLION IS A STATISTIC IN HISTORY"
- Zbigniew Brzezinski-"TODAY IT IS INFINITELY EASIER TO KILL A MILLION PEOPLE THAN TO CONTROL A MILLION PEOPLE"
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Mesicans = Indians and cacs fuckingSome who know the truth are cool but that is only 1%. Plus you must understand they hate from the other 99% is from the facts they know who we sre especially here in Texas and the Boot.
Ask a older mexican person how did the Aztecs and Mayans look? They wont answer you and will get upset and this is why.
Mayans
Aztecs
Now you know the real reason why they hate us so much.
[Watcher] every vote to the Democratic party is one less vote to the evil Republicans led by my boogie man Trump [\Watcher]Folks going to get enough of these democrat talking points meant to further the party and not the black community.
I think there could still be a large number of hispanics who dont identity as mexican who will still vote republican. Florida for one is flooded with spanish speakers who dont vote Dem. You'd think by trump imprisoning these kids, and fucking over Puerto rico, that a massive shift would take place.
At some point there needs to be other options than here. I’m somewhat familiar with what they’re trying to escape, but all those from below Mexico should consider Mexico at first. I feel sorry for the separation of those kids but now that’s it national news why still risk it? Find another way in.
They care about what white liberals tell them to care about. Funny that Dyson just wrote about about black leaders meeting with RFK and telling him the business. Now shit is the other way around.
When did it get like this? Democrat party interest first. Got folks bumped from second to fourth place and they still don't get it.
They are Democrat first and foremost. They've been compromised decades ago. Any help to Black people is merely a coincidence of the "rising tide" policies.They care about what white liberals tell them to care about. Funny that Dyson just wrote about about black leaders meeting with RFK and telling him the business. Now shit is the other way around.
What’s disturbing is you, gene, amajorcup, Bumbay, Megatron, the list, are all the same talking head.
You all are more riled up over Brown people than white people. The mind fuck white people have done on you all is impressive.
People so vile, corrupt, and evil can stay on top for so long is amazing. Right now white people are coming out guns blazing and you all are silent.
Boogie man Trump is a republican talking point.
If you and the others are on the list are Black....well, we can see why white people will not be dethroned in our life time.
I live in a southern state. Has anyone ever seen a piece of this earth not owned by whites are a white reality? Anything other than separation is a diversion for blacks.
What in the hell are you talking about? If anyone is falling for mind fucking by white people, it's you democrat shills. How you going to be in a race in this racist ass country and as a demographic fall from second place to fourth place and then cheer on your fucking competition whose fucking lead on you is growing.
The person beating your ass in the race doesn't need your fucking help. You sound like you'd be in a marathon and hand the competition water as they pass you by.
These white liberals got you so mindfucked that you seem to be one step away from joining PETA or wearing a shirt with a rainbow on it. You think brown is going to overthrow white and look out for black?
Holy fucking shit are you delusional. You realize the so-called poc you praise can be just as racist or more so than whites? And white people been had guns blazing. Fuck border patrol, black people can't walk the streets without police harassment and getting pulled over is like a game of Russian Roulette. Country been breaking up families since day one and switched the game up after civil rights with the prison industrial complex. There's enough for black people to be worried about. I'm not going to let some $10 cup coffee drinking white liberal dictate what I should be concerned about.
How many times do I have to say I don’t care about Democrats. They are a means to an end. Stop being dishonest.What in the hell are you talking about? If anyone is falling for mind fucking by white people, it's you democrat shills. How you going to be in a race in this racist ass country and as a demographic fall from second place to fourth place and then cheer on your fucking competition whose fucking lead on you is growing.
The person beating your ass in the race doesn't need your fucking help. You sound like you'd be in a marathon and hand the competition water as they pass you by.
You think brown is going to overthrow white and look out for black?
And white people been had guns blazing. Fuck border patrol, black people can't walk the streets without police harassment and getting pulled over is like a game of Russian Roulette. Country been breaking up families since day one and switched the game up after civil rights with the prison industrial complex. There's enough for black people to be worried about. I'm not going to let some $10 cup coffee drinking white liberal dictate what I should be concerned about.
If the Green Party could remove republicans I would be all in for the Green Party. If people weren’t so docile I would be all in for war and forget about the political way. But that will never happen.
White people, specifically white republicans are the worst people on this planet. You keep talking about past whites but refuse to talk about the current ones running everything. You are giving them a pass now because they have always been fucking over non whites.
It’s absolutly fascinating how you all go out of your way to say nothing about the most evil white people. You often jump on their side against other non whites. Textbook Stockholm syndrome.
You are perfectly happy with white republicans running this country to the end of your days. I’m not
White people being a problem is a given man. Do I have to state the sun is up? No. It's up. It will be up tomorrow. The day after. It's a fucking constant. Understand? Fuck republicans. If a snake bites me or a shark tries to consume me, they doing them. It's to be expected. If the dog you raised from a pup tries to bite you, there's a fucking problem.
And that's my gripe. White democrats have an agenda for their power and doing what's best for them, not the black community. People don't see the writing on the wall and it's cost a lot over there years.
Your problem is you think we don't pay attention to white systematic and everyday racism. We do. It's a fucking constant. Can't miss it. But what needs to be highlighted is the black community losing political and economic power to other demographics. Shit is not good for the community's future, but democrats love it.
Let me ask you two serious questions and I hope you answer honestly. Since Hispanics have increased their population to damn near 20 percent in the last 50 or so years and have passed the black community in economic power, how has the black community benefited?
How will the black community benefit by the projected increased brown population growth and growing economic gap?
White people being a problem is a given man. Do I have to state the sun is up? No. It's up. It will be up tomorrow. The day after. It's a fucking constant. Understand? Fuck republicans. If a snake bites me or a shark tries to consume me, they doing them. It's to be expected. If the dog you raised from a pup tries to bite you, there's a fucking problem.
And that's my gripe. White democrats have an agenda for their power and doing what's best for them, not the black community. People don't see the writing on the wall and it's cost a lot over there years.
Your problem is you think we don't pay attention to white systematic and everyday racism. We do. It's a fucking constant. Can't miss it. But what needs to be highlighted is the black community losing political and economic power to other demographics. Shit is not good for the community's future, but democrats love it.
Let me ask you two serious questions and I hope you answer honestly. Since Hispanics have increased their population to damn near 20 percent in the last 50 or so years and have passed the black community in economic power, how has the black community benefited?
They keep telling me alliances and appealing to be the moral standard will bring us up as a group.
But i'll await his reply
Change it all- place ILLEGALS on the priority list...
Since its establishment in 1971, the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) has been committed to using the full Constitutional power, statutory authority, and financial resources of the federal government to ensure that African Americans and other marginalized communities in the United States have the opportunity to achieve the American Dream. As part of this commitment, the CBC has fought for the past 46 years to empower these citizens and address their legislative concerns by pursuing a policy agenda that includes but is not limited to the following:
focusing on the wrong things....
keep taking the bait and fake ass talking points....while they ride the wave to another term..
take the air out-KILL THE FIRE.
focus...
GET ONE OF THOSE TELEVISED EXECUTIVE ORDERS FOR THE COMMUNITY
Since its establishment in 1971, the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC) has been committed to using the full Constitutional power, statutory authority, and financial resources of the federal government to ensure that African Americans and other marginalized communities in the United States have the opportunity to achieve the American Dream. As part of this commitment, the CBC has fought for the past 46 years to empower these citizens and address their legislative concerns by pursuing a policy agenda that includes but is not limited to the following:
- reforming the criminal justice system and eliminating barriers to reentry;
- combatting voter suppression;
- expanding access to world-class education from pre-k through post-secondary level;
- expanding access to quality, affordable health care and eliminating racial health disparities;
- expanding access to 21st century technologies, including broadband;
- strengthening protections for workers and expanding access to full, fairly-compensated employment;
- expanding access to capital, contracts, and counseling for minority-owned businesses; and
- promoting U.S. foreign policy initiatives in Africa and other countries that are consistent with the fundamental right of human dignity.
focusing on the wrong things....
keep taking the bait and fake ass talking points....while they ride the wave to another term..
take the air out-KILL THE FIRE.
focus...
GET ONE OF THOSE TELEVISED EXECUTIVE ORDERS FOR THE COMMUNITY
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You say fuck white republicans but they are the ones in power running everything. I’m listening....what do you propose we do about them. They are the greatest current threat. The Democratic Party can be taken over by Black people...the Republican Party can’t.White people being a problem is a given man. Do I have to state the sun is up? No. It's up. It will be up tomorrow. The day after. It's a fucking constant. Understand? Fuck republicans.
And that's my gripe. White democrats have an agenda for their power and doing what's best for them, not the black community. People don't see the writing on the wall and it's cost a lot over there years.
Let me ask you two serious questions and I hope you answer honestly. Since Hispanics have increased their population to damn near 20 percent in the last 50 or so years and have passed the black community in economic power, how has the black community benefited?
Why are we striving for second place when white people are on top with their foot on our necks. Your suggestion is we go through brown people to get to white people?
Why haven’t Black people been able to achieve population and economic growth in the last 50 years like hispanics? We both know the answer but I doubt you will say it.
Their is no gains for us with white people doing what they have done for hundreds of years. Every Hispanic could disappear tomorrow and our situation would be no better as long as white people run everything. Why are we focused on brown people....
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045217
Population estimates, July 1, 2017, (V2017) 325,719,178
Population estimates base, April 1, 2010, (V2017) 308,758,105
Population, percent change - April 1, 2010 (estimates base) to July 1, 2017, (V2017) 5.5%
Population, Census, April 1, 2010 308,745,538
Race and Hispanic Origin
White alone, percent(a) 76.6%
Black or African American alone, percent(a) 13.4%
American Indian and Alaska Native alone, percent(a) 1.3%
Asian alone, percent(a) 5.8%
Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander alone, percent(a) 0.2%
Two or More Races, percent 2.7%
Hispanic or Latino, percent(b) 18.1%
For the smart ones does that mean for US Statistical purposes Hispanic/Latino is included in White or Black/African percentages...
Hmmmm.....
and in supporting ILLEGAL immigration which statistical category or you representing..
Team Who?
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