Cornell West need to face reality

I saw that exchange

I understand completely what he's saying, because I don't fuck with Hillary either

and Bill saying that shit after saying Hillary won the popular vote with the Republican at the beginning was hypocritical
 
Cornell is the prime example of someone that can speak eloquently and don't be saying shit. That's how intellects are able to manipulate or control arguments against those that doesn't speak as well. They simply do not have to words to argue back.

But sitting on that panel with intellects and people that can call him on his bullshit lets you know that he ain't about shit.
 
I saw that exchange

I understand completely what he's saying, because I don't fuck with Hillary either

and Bill saying that shit after saying Hillary won the popular vote with the Republican at the beginning was hypocritical
I always say Hillary wasn't mother Theresa but she is light years ahead of Trump and playing Monday morning quarterback Hillary would have been a better choice hands-down
 
Peace,

Cornell is the prime example of someone that can speak eloquently and don't be saying shit. That's how intellects are able to manipulate or control arguments against those that doesn't speak as well. They simply do not have to words to argue back.

But sitting on that panel with intellects and people that can call him on his bullshit lets you know that he ain't about shit.

What did he say that you didn't agree with?
 
Like Bill said what about Obama care????? I'm waiting for your answer with that.

She would have just been status quo...but wouldn't have done a damn thing other than play the middle

I always say Hillary wasn't mother Theresa but she is light years ahead of Trump and playing Monday morning quarterback Hillary would have been a better choice hands-down

That's not saying much
 
Cornell is the prime example of someone that can speak eloquently and don't be saying shit. That's how intellects are able to manipulate or control arguments against those that doesn't speak as well. They simply do not have to words to argue back.

But sitting on that panel with intellects and people that can call him on his bullshit lets you know that he ain't about shit.
You hit the nail on the head he really didn't have any come back for Bill or that Republican guy or even Michael
 
Peace,

I always say Hillary wasn't mother Theresa but she is light years ahead of Trump and playing Monday morning quarterback Hillary would have been a better choice hands-down

Whether Hillary was a better choice than Trump is immaterial. And unquestionable. West's argument is that Dems chose an inferior candidate when there was an obvious and better choice. Instead of admitting this, they're blaming those people who didn't actively and vocally support her and/or who didn't vote for her. How is this even debatable?
 
Peace,



What did he say that you didn't agree with?
With the police shootings we really need to get our own people in the state and local levels the feds Are not going to do anything about it whether it's Democrat or Republican.
Peace,



Whether Hillary was a better choice than Trump is immaterial. And unquestionable. West's argument is that Dems chose an inferior candidate when there was an obvious and better choice. Instead of admitting this, they're blaming those people who didn't actively and vocally support her and/or who didn't vote for her. How is this even debatable?
in this particular case the people who didn't vote for her but yet called a self liberals knew the potential danger of Donald Trump which is proven itself out right now
 
Peace,



Whether Hillary was a better choice than Trump is immaterial. And unquestionable. West's argument is that Dems chose an inferior candidate when there was an obvious and better choice. Instead of admitting this, they're blaming those people who didn't actively and vocally support her and/or who didn't vote for her. How is this even debatable?
Who was the better choice, Sanders? The guy who right now doesn't claim to be a democrat?
 
When the anti voter or indifferent non voter resorts to the "well my vote wouldnt have mattered anyway because i live in a blue state" argument, they know they've lost the debate.
That's true by the way are you black
 
Who was the better choice, Sanders? The guy who right now doesn't claim to be a democrat?
Sanders is a bit of a loose cannon although he would have been better than Trump I was a little on easy about his temperament also his wife would have been a little problem also
 
When the anti voter or indifferent non voter resorts to the "well my vote wouldnt have mattered anyway because i live in a blue state" argument, they know they've lost the debate.

How?

Especially when a lot of democrats use the same electoral college argument in debates with republicans in an effort to try to say Hillary didn't lose that badly.

Bill used that same argument earlier about her winning the popular vote to weaken Republicans saying the people have spoken.
 
Sanders is a bit of a loose cannon although he would have been better than Trump I was a little on easy about his temperament also his wife would have been a little problem also

What's a loose canon?

Being progressive? Not being afraid of being liberal? Not playing the middle?
 
What about saying Hillary =disaster and Trump=Catastrophe is wrong? Finding out how the DNC wrecked Bernie's campaign, how they killed Seth Rich for leaking those emails.....hell she might be getting impeached too.

West absolutely nailed it when he said "Trump is the result of white male mediocrity in this country"
 
How?

Especially when a lot of democrats use the same electoral college argument in debates with republicans in an effort to try to say Hillary didn't lose that badly.

Bill used that same argument earlier about her winning the popular vote to weaken Republicans saying the people have spoken.
What's a loose canon?

Being progressive? Not being afraid of being liberal? Not playing the middle?
Sir I am very liberal but this country is not going to swing liberal overnight you have to gradually take them to that point I E what Obama care due to some Republican constituents they hated it at first but when I had to use it and got more exposed to it they liked it I always said Obama care was universal healthcare own time delay.
 
Like Bill said what about Obama care????? I'm waiting for your answer with that.

Obama Care is still in affect. And if it wasn't, you can't be denied treatment in this country. And quality care is still expensive regardless.
 
Most of these folks are still butt hurt over Sanders the independent not being picked to be the democratic nominee for president of the USA (as well as the normal dirty shit that happens during a campaign).
They may not still be "butt hurt" if it wasn't found they stole the primary.....maybe should be a little more outrages about that?
 
Because its immaterial to the discourse of discussing the candidates on the merits.. Its literally the most anti intellectual response you can have... Which is troubling coming from a so called intellectual.. His initial point is that she is no more destructive than Trump. He spouts that from a position of influence and perceived intelligence and education.. Yet when cornered he abandons that for a weak fallback of "well, it dont matter actually". Thats awful bro. And for someone who professes to be so utterly concerned with human rights and civil liberties, there really is no serious discussion to be held comparing the two candidates in that regard.. Especially with so much on the line (supreme court appt and healthcare most notably). Cornell played himself.
 
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They may not still be "butt hurt" if it wasn't found they stole the primary.....maybe should be a little more outrages about that?
I hate when people say stole the primary again and I said this all last year send us shot his self in the foot due to his interesting supporters especially when he did the southern swing
 
I've learn that you are not changing some peoples mind on Hilary! I for one thinks she was a better choice than Trump but a lot of people believe she wasn't a better alternative. It looks like Bernie would have been the better choice for the Democratic party.
 
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