Just don't leave no still images on the screen for any amount of time and don't have the tv running 24/7 and you will be good
(Cnet) Should I buy an OLED TV now or wait for 2017 models
OLED Burn-in Test Update + Start of New Test
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-burn-in-lcd-oled
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/permanent-image-retention-burn-in-lcd-oled
https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test
Holla at me when the 16k tvs come out
Ain't nothing 2 holla . You will be worm food when 16k drops.
So they basically just added some bullshit to justify the new models? I only care about picture quality and will not be using audio or smart features on my tv. I wish someone made a oled reference monitor in 55" and 65". It looks like I would be good with 2016 or 2017 models.
How u figure? 8k bout to drop but 16k wont be for another 50 years? Yeah ok
How u figure? 8k bout to drop but 16k wont be for another 50 years? Yeah ok
i am not understanding the race for anyone to buy an 8k tv. we barely have any 4k content.
Pleasantries Acur
How u figure? 8k bout to drop but 16k wont be for another 50 years? Yeah ok
Breh my cuz lives in Japan. They already on 8k. I attend Ces so ive seen it within the Vegas convention halls. The reason why i made my statement the average joker is cool with 720p see bgol and others.
The consumer doesn't demand 4k television viewing as a standard.
That's why i made that statement. Look at the high speed bullet train development. Its been failure so far but u know we've got the technology.
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I understand all that. This is America. Its not about technology. Its about money. Shit is deployed late as fuck here on purpose. But 10 years from now, 8k will be like 1080 and 4k will be like 720. So Ill be alive to see shit way beyond that.
True. But soon everything will be streaming. And it will be fully available. Ive worked for Time Warner/Spectrum for over 10 years now. Ive seen our HSD speeds go from 50 to 400 down in the last few years. In certain markets we are offering 1 gig down WITHOUT needing fiber
So its coming sooner than later.I understand all that. This is America. Its not about technology. Its about money. Shit is deployed late as fuck here on purpose. But 10 years from now, 8k will be like 1080 and 4k will be like 720. So Ill be alive to see shit way beyond that.
True. But soon everything will be streaming. And it will be fully available. Ive worked for Time Warner/Spectrum for over 10 years now. Ive seen our HSD speeds go from 50 to 400 down in the last few years. In certain markets we are offering 1 gig down WITHOUT needing fiber
That was my overall point its a money game. They've been on that hide and wait game since Nikola Tesla's era. Stalled him out on some Debo vibe and knocked him. Since your at TW whats your take on fiber wiring for the house?
We dont do fiber to home at Spectrum. Just for buisness class as of now. But with Docis3.1 technology, we can achieve 1gig down hsd speeds on coaxial cable. Dont know how this will play out with video. Cable companies are focusing on internet speeds, not better video. But we will see.
I said fiber but i meant cat 6A/7A in home wiring my fault
Yeah. Thing is, Ive been on this board forever and I dont remember all the hated members or why they are hated. Whats up with dude again? I see niggas always saying " Pleasantries Acur". I honestly dont get it
I understand all that. This is America. Its not about technology. Its about money. Shit is deployed late as fuck here on purpose. But 10 years from now, 8k will be like 1080 and 4k will be like 720. So Ill be alive to see shit way beyond that.
True. But soon everything will be streaming. And it will be fully available. Ive worked for Time Warner/Spectrum for over 10 years now. Ive seen our HSD speeds go from 50 to 400 down in the last few years. In certain markets we are offering 1 gig down WITHOUT needing fiber
i am all cool with that. but is there any talk of removing data caps. streaming 4k or 8k is bandwidth intensive. there is no way a 1tb cap can survive that.
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Warning to all current, future OLED TV Owners
TLDR: OLED SCREEN BURN IN CAN HAPPEN WITH NORMAL TV USE. HAPPENED TO ME. EARLY STAGES OF BURN-IN MAY NOT BE VISIBLE WATCHING NORMAL CONTENT. READ BELOW FOR ADVICE HOW TO CHECK FOR EARLY BURN-IN AND HELP PREVENT IT OR KEEP IT FROM GETTING WORSE.
If you own or are considering purchasing an OLED TV, please read this post. It is for your benefit, especially for those not very familiar with the technology. I'm posting this because I want you to be able to enjoy your TV for a long time and avoid a potential problem, that I have personally experienced, and others have reported with LG OLED TVs - screen burn in. I'm going to post this as for someone that may not know anything about screen burn in, so all of you reading this that are familiar with the issue, don't get offended that I'm talking down to you. If you have anything useful to add or correct, please post.
WHAT IS SCREEN BURN IN?
Screen burn in is basically when a static image, like a channel/station logo, sticks or gets "burned in" to the screen to some extent, and then may be visible on other channels and content that you watch as a ghost or shadow image. It's typically caused by displaying such static logos or graphics for prolonged periods of time. There is also something called temporary image retention, which appears similar to burn in, but goes away after several minutes/hours of watching various, random content. This post is focused on burn in, which may be permanent or last a very long time (months or even years).
MY PERSONAL EXAMPLE OF BURN IN ON AN LG OLED TV
My parents bought a brand new LG OLED65B6P TV in August of 2016. After about 6 months of watching MSNBC for about 4 hours a day, 4-5 days a week, the left side of the NBC peacock station logo became visible as a dark spot while watching other content (not MSNBC). The TV was also used for a few hours daily watching other, non-MSNBC content. It's been a few months since we identified the issue, and we almost never watch MSNBC on this TV anymore. However, the burned in logo is still visible watching other content, months later. It's only visible when specific colors like red, brown/tan, yellow, orange, and certain shades of other colors are displayed in the area of the burned in logo. I'd wildly guess that more than 65% of the time, the burn in is not visible.
WHAT TO DO TO HELP PREVENT BURN-IN ON YOUR LG OLED TV
- Try to limit displaying content that contains static (non-moving) logos or graphics, especially news channels like MSNBC, CNN, FOX News, etc., and some video games.
- Be especially aware of static logos or graphics consisting of yellow, orange, or red colors. Virtually all LG OLED burn in reports to date stem from those colors. It may be possible that other colors also can cause burn in if static logos/graphics are displayed long enough. Someone reported green also causing their burn in.
- Set your OLED Light to a low level, as low as possible that is still comfortable for you to watch. The higher the OLED Light setting, the quicker bright, static elements will burn in. There may not be a completely "safe" setting. My parents' TV is set at 60 and got burn in.
- Set your Contrast lower if possible. My parents' TV is set at 84, which is the proper level using test patterns, but that setting likely increases the risk.
- Enable your Energy Saving setting. Leaving it OFF does not dim the TV light output based on room light, possibly increasing risk of burn in.
- Make sure the Screen Shift option is enabled. My parents' TV had it enabled, so it may or may not prevent or help reduce the risk of burn in.
- Always turn off the TV with the remote and leave the TV connected to power at all times. This allows compensation cycles to run while the TV is in standby, helping to clear up temporary image retention and possibly reducing risk of burn in. Didn't help my parents, but I hear it's very important.
- Purchase an extended warranty that specifically covers burn-in or permanent image retention. LG's warranty does not cover burn in.
- If you must watch content with brightly colored, static logos/graphics like news channels, consider using the "all-direction zoom" in aspect ratio settings to zoom and move the static elements off the screen.
HOW CAN I CHECK TO SEE IF I HAVE EARLY STAGES OF BURN IN?
Burn in may not be immediately noticeable, especially when watching normal content. I believe it's something that gets worse (more noticeable) over time. The longer the TV displays the same static logos or graphics, the more noticeable the burn in will become IMO. So just because you don't see any evidence of burn in while watching your LG OLED TV, it doesn't necessarily mean that your TV doesn't already have some early stages of burn in. To check, fire up the Youtube app on your TV (or any other streaming device connected to it), search for "red screen," "red background," or "10 hours of red" and select one of the available videos showing an all red screen. Watch the video for a couple of minutes giving your eyes time to adjust. A dimly lit or dark room is probably best. With no burn in, you should see a more or less uniformly red color across the entire screen. If you do have burn in, it'll show up as a darker area of the screen roughly representing the size and shape of the logo or graphic that caused the burn-in. As an alternative, you can also fire up a fully yellow screen. On a yellow screen, burn in shows up as the color green. I'd personally check with both red and yellow.
WHAT TO DO IF I NOTICE BURN IN?
If you notice burn in, either while watching normally, or using the test above, you may want to run a manual compensation cycle to see if it helps. Go to All Settings - Picture - OLED Panel Settings - Clear Panel Noise and select one of the 2 options (I recommend Start Now). Leave the TV off for 1 hour and let it do its thing. It'll turn itself back on when it's done. You can then check with red/yellow screens to see if it helped. If it's gone, it wasn't burn in, but temporary IR. If it appears to have faded a bit, you can run clear panel noise once or twice more to see if it helps. If it doesn't disappear, you likely have burn in that MAY fade over time. In my parents' case, I ran it a few times, and I didn't notice a difference.
You may want to prevent it from possibly getting worse and more noticeable by refraining from content/games that contain static logos or graphics that caused it in the first place. It's possible the burn-in may fade slowly over time or even disappear (unconfirmed), but unlikely if the TV continues to display the same, offending static elements. Refer to section above regarding what to do to prevent burn in for more pointers.
Finally, please REPORT your experience here or in the OLED Screen Burn thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ole...rn-photos.html
(Notice how this thread starts off just a few months ago with lots of folks saying that burn in with OLED is impossible under normal use, and later includes several examples of owners actually experiencing it with normal use. It's a big reason why I started this thread. There are probably still some guests and members reading the first page or 2 only of that thread and thinking it's a non-issue. Not good.)
.....and VOTE in this thread: WOLED burn-in poll
I hope some folks find this helpful. I'd hate to see others have to go through this if it can be prevented.
By the way, I still very much recommend the LG OLED TVs. The picture quality is outstanding! I just wish LG would've been more forthright and honest about the TV's limitations and provided specific instructions on how to use it so that screen burn in does not occur. But I guess if they did that, they may not have sold as many units.
http://www.avsforum.com/forum/40-ol...arning-all-current-future-oled-tv-owners.html
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Best Super Bowl 2018 TV Deals - Huge Savings On 4K HDR Smart TVs From LG, Sony, Samsung And More
With less than a week to go until the Philadelphia Eagles take on the New England Patriots in Super Bowl LII, many sports-loving households are starting to look with increasing disdain at their aging TVs. Just how much more enjoyable might watching the big game be if that old TV was upgraded to something bigger and better?
The answer, given that pretty much all mid-range and high-end TVs these days support native 4K/UHD resolutions and high dynamic range (HDR) playback, is that upgrading your TV will almost certainly make your experience of the big game much, much more immersive and entertaining.
Even though broadcaster NBC hasn’t yet confirmed that it will be broadcasting the Super Bowl in native 4K or HDR, the best new TVs do an excellent job of upscaling HD pictures to 4K and expanding the image’s brightness and color ranges so that they look much more life-like.
Happily, electrical retailers are very aware that the Super Bowl gets people in the mood to buy a new TV, and have kicked off a round of aggressive price cutting to try and tempt you to make the leap.
With the help of deal-finding specialistBestBlackFriday.com, we’ve trawled the Internet looking for the very best deals we can find on big-screen, 4K HDR TVs from all the big-name brands. I’ve organized them by ‘store’ and provided some basic background information on each model so you’ve got a better idea of what you’re looking at.
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BEST BUY
Sharp LC-55LBU591U, $399.99 (save $200)
55-inch LED Smart 4K/Ultra HD TV with built-in Roku TV
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This is the most outright ‘budget’ TV on this list, and so doesn’t have the brightness, contrast, color or motion performance to rival the best models out there. On the other hand, if $400 is as far as your budget can stretch, you’re getting a huge amount of picture for ridiculously little money.
Sony XBR55X900E, $999.99 (save $400)
55-inch Class LED Smart 4K/Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range
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With their direct backlighting (where the LEDs sit behind the screen rather than around its edges) and powerful picture processing, Sony’s X900Es are arguably the best mid-range LCD TVs around right now. Which makes this 55-inch model a huge bargain at under $1,000.
Sony XBR65X900E, $1,499.99 (save $500)
65-inch Class LED Smart 4K/Ultra HD TV with High Dynamic Range
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The 65-inch version of the previously described XBR55X900E.
Sony KD70X690E, $1,199.99 (save $600)
70-inch Class LED Smart 4K/Ultra HD TV with high dynamic range
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This set isn’t as bright as an HDR TV would ideally be, and its pictures can deteriorate if viewed from an angle - something to think about, perhaps, if you’re fond of holding big Super Bowl parties where some viewers will have to sit way down the TV’s sides.
On the other hand, pictures are clean, rich in contrast, and handle motion superbly - which is, of course, a big deal for watching sport. Plus it gives you a massive 70-inch picture for just $1,200.
WALMART
Sceptre U650CV-U, $539.99 (save $360)
65-inch Class 4K/Ultra HD LED TV
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As with the Sharp model earlier, we’ve added this Sceptre model to the list not because it’s a particularly brilliant performer, but simply because thanks to the Super Bowl sales it gives you a very big picture - 65 inches, in this case - for remarkably little money. Note that it does not support HDR playback.
LG 65UJ6300, $796.99 (save $603)
65-inch Class 4K/Ultra HD Smart LED TV
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While LG LCD TVs such as the 65UJ6300 don’t have the contrast to deliver movies in dark rooms particularly well, they’re ideally suited to the bright, colorful footage associated with sports events such as the Super Bowl. They also support wider viewing angles than many rival sets, making them a great option for people who like to get friends and neighbors round to watch the big game.
LG 55UJ6300, $546.99 (save $253)
55-inch Class 4K/Ultra HD Smart LED TV
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The 55-inch version of the 65UJ6300 covered above.
VIZIO E70-E3, $1,078 (save $220)
70-inch Class 4K Smart XLED Home Theater Display
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Thanks to its combination of a contrast-rich VA-type panel and local dimming technology to improve the performance of its backlight, this is comfortably the best-performing 70-inch TV in its price range.
SAMSUNG.COM (a longer list of Samsung pre-Super Bows deals featuring higher end models can be foundhere)
Samsung QN55Q6FAMFXZA, $999.99 (save $800)
55-inch Class Q6F Special Edition QLED 4K TV
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Although this uses Samsung’s new high-end QLED TV technology, it’s quite a significant step down in performance terms from the step-up Q7F series. Then again, though, its color range and sharpness deliver quite a step up from Samsung’s non-QLED models.
Samsung UN65MU8000FXZA, $1,299.99 (save $900)
65-inch Class MU8000 4K/UHD TV with high dynamic range
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The MU8000s don’t use Samsung’s QLED technology, and so don’t run as brightly or provide as wide a color range when watching HDR sources such as 4K Blu-rays (the Super Bowl will not be appearing in HDR). They don’t have the same anti-reflection filter as the QLED screens either. They’re still strong performers for their money, though, especially where detail and color vibrancy are concerned. And this is a really great price for such a high-quality 65-inch TV.
Samsung UN65MU7500FXZA, $1,199.99 (save $700)
65-inch Class MU7500 Curved 4K UHD TV with high dynamic range
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Provided your room layout isn’t likely to cause too many reflections on the 65MU7500’s curved screen or force anyone to have to watch the TV from an angle of more than around 35 degrees, this attractive, high-performance TV is a brilliantly bright, colorful way of enjoying the big game.
Samsung UN55MU7500FXZA, $999.99 (save $300)
55-inch Class MU7500 Curved 4K UHD TV with high dynamic range
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The 55-inch version of the TV detailed above.
Samsung UN75MU6300FXZA, $1,799.99 (save $1,000)
75-inch Class MU6300 4K UHD TV with high dynamic range
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Despite having no local dimming technology to boost contrast, Samsung’s MU6300 series are up there with Sony’s X690E models when it comes to delivering crisp, detailed, colorful 4K pictures at huge screen sizes for very reasonable prices - especially now there’s a cool $1,000 off this massive 75-inch model ahead of the Super Bowl. In fact, thanks to its extra brightness it outguns Sony’s X690E with HDR playback.
Samsung UN65MU6500FXZA, $899.99 (save $600)
65-inch Class MU6500 Curved 4K UHD TV with high dynamic range
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Essentially the 65-inch curved version of the MU6300 series detailed above. It’s good, though best avoided if you’ve got a lot of screen reflections to deal with, as the curved screen can distort reflections across more of the TV’s screen area.
Samsung UN55MU6500FXZA, $699.99 (save $300)
55" Class MU6500 Curved 4K UHD TV with high dynamic range
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The 55-inch version of the TV detailed above.
Samsung UN55MU6300FXZA, $599.99 (save $200)
55-inch Class MU6300 4K UHD TV with high dynamic range
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The 55-inch version of the 75MU6300 detailed earlier.
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LG OLED55B7A, $1,596.99 (save $653)
55-inch OLED 4K HDR Smart TV
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Unlike LCD TVs, OLED TVs like this one are able to light each pixel in their screens individually, resulting in peerless contrast and beautifully rich colors. They’re not as bright as some high-end LCD TVs, but they’re still superb all-rounders as at home with dark-room movie viewing as the Super Bowl.
LG OLED65B7A, $2,496.99 (save $753)
65-Inch 4K HDR Smart OLED TV
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The 65-inch version of the model detailed above.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnar...s-from-lg-sony-samsung-and-more/#6981c14039de
How u figure? 8k bout to drop but 16k wont be for another 50 years? Yeah ok
There is only so much resolution the human eye can distinguish. Any higher, and they are basically making tv's for hawks and eagles.
Vizio’s 2018 4K TV lineup includes its brightest, most colorful set ever
https://www.theverge.com/circuitbre...uantum-m-series-pricing-features-release-date
Vizio 2018 M-series, P-series TVs do local dimming for less
https://www.cnet.com/news/vizio-2018-m-series-p-series-tvs-do-local-dimming-for-less/
2018 M-Series pricing:
- 70-inch: $1,699.99
- 65-inch: $1,399.99
- 55-inch: $999.99
- 75-inch $2,599.99
- 65-inch: $1,799.99
- 55-inch: $1,199.99
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