City of South Fulton, GA (two years old, 100,000 residents, 90% Black) completely FALLING APART due to infighting for control (worse than FBA vs ADOS)

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And that wasn't a clickbait headline - literally every member of that city council wants to be "in charge" and South Fulton regularly makes the local TV news, often over seemingly petty bullshit! I'm not taking sides because I have no idea who is right or wrong, but it seems no one trusts anyone else among the elected officials. There are constant lawsuit filings and special investigations, officials are cursing at each other at EVERY meeting, they've already tried to change the city name twice, and there are new recall petitions even though some elections were LAST MONTH! :angry:
Hearing to remove South Fulton mayor, council member ends without vote






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A Monday hearing that could lead to the removal of a mayor and council member in the city of South Fulton was often raucous and unwieldy, but it ended with the fate of the two elected officials still unclear.

The hearing, to remove Mayor Bill Edwards and Councilwoman Helen Zenobia Willis, lasted more than nine hours as council members heard testimony from six people, including the city attorney, the city’s economic development director and a representative of Halperns’ Steak and Seafood Co. — the company at the heart of a development deal that led to the hearing.

Willis and Edwards have been accused of directing Halperns to the Development Authority of Fulton County for a $27 million bond deal it received in October, after council members decided that the new South Fulton Development Authority should be the only agency offering incentives to companies within the city.

Those council members claim the move cost the city millions of dollars in lost revenue. Halperns is already located in South Fulton and plans to expand.
Council members adjourned at 6:30 p.m. without taking a vote, and they could not say whether they would reconvene the hearing. The adjournment happened with no discussion after one council member left and Edwards cast the deciding vote.

Attorney Antavius Weems, who represents Willis, said the process was over.

Edwards called the adjournment a victory and said the hearing was “unnecessary.”

“It’s too costly to this community,” he said.

The investigation and hearing have cost city taxpayers more than $50,000.

But councilman Khalid Kamau said the vote could still occur.

Council members have been pushing for the hearing since mid November. It was originally scheduled for Dec. 10, but the case was dismissed by a judge after she ruled that the charges against Willis weren’t properly signed. Edwards was added to the investigation after that.

Monday, more than 100 residents, including at least three state representatives, crammed into a break room at South Fulton’s city hall to watch the proceedings. Some arrived 90 minutes before it started, and the number of people in the breakroom — festooned with poinsettia, hanging snowflake cutouts and a Christmas tree — soon became standing-room only. More watched on YouTube in an overflow room.

The ongoing dispute has frustrated residents across South Fulton, a two-year-old city of nearly 100,000 people who are intensely interested in their city’s reputation and its success.

“We’ve got to come together,” Edwards said after hours of testimony. “We want South Fulton to look good.”

But a suggestion, for the second time, that council members consider mediation was quickly rejected and the testimony often felt more like an airing of grievances than a finding of facts.

Council members criticized the hiring of the city attorney, the creation of the development board, the economic development director’s communication habits and the mayor’s veto power.

The tone was contentious throughout.

“It’s like we’re living in a burning house,” Mayor Pro Tem Mark Baker said.

‘Ensure the money stays here’

Council members accused Willis of costing the city $7 million by virtue of the Halperns deal going to the county development authority instead of to the city.

Emilia Walker, the South Fulton city attorney, said the figure could be that high if South Fulton were to collect all the tax dollars that would otherwise be owed to Fulton County and the Fulton County schools.

Fulton County does not structure its deals that way and instead offered the company a 10-year property tax abatement.

There is no evidence that Halperns would have gotten a deal that would have sent that much money to the city. But Walker said she thought the option was legal, and the best one for the city to pursue. She reached out to Halperns leadership the day before the Fulton County authority voted to approve the abatement.

“Sometimes we want to ensure the money stays here,” she said. “The only way to guarantee that we can use that money is to come before our development authority.”

Walker also said she was concerned that Christopher Pike, the economic development director, didn’t bring the potential deal to others in the city when he first learned about it. Pike testified that the company was on a short time-frame for completing the deal, and he told a consultant he could not guarantee that the new city development authority would be able to complete it before the end of December.

The South Fulton Development Authority still has not closed any deals.

“This was about helping a company that wanted to stay in your community,” Development Authority of Fulton County CEO Al Nash said.

In October, Willis texted Walker about her efforts to contact Halperns, questioning why she was trying to intervene. Willis then went to the Development Authority of Fulton County meeting to try to keep the project on track after Pike told her Halperns leadership was concerned about Walker’s outreach.

Willis said she thought the efforts to remove her from office were personal, and that Walker was involved.

“I suspect you are colluding with four council members to get me kicked out of my seat,” Willis said.

Recent votes in the investigation have largely been 4-3. Willis was just elected to a second term.

The testimony about phone calls, tax deals and timelines for contact didn’t sooth the tensions on the council. Toward the end of the hearing, Baker said the council was doing a “horrible job” of finding the truth.

“We’re here because of lost tax dollars and the possibility that two of our own betrayed the city,” he said.


 

I'm reminded of this thread.

Oh @Camille your presence is requested
 
Just last year this was #blackgirlmagic

http://amp.essence.com/culture/criminal-justice-system-south-fulton-black-women

One of the newest cities in Georgia is making history as the first to ever have its whole criminal justice system run by black women.



Indeed, the year-old City of South Fulton — now the fifth largest in the state — has a lack female chief of police (Sheila Rogers), chief judge (Tiffany Carter Sellers), court administrator (Lakesiya Cofield), chief court clerk (Ramona Howard), city solicitor (LaDawn Jones) and city public defender (Viveca Famber Powell). Many of these women are the inaugural appointees of these roles, according to the Atlanta Voice.

“Our goal is to ensure justice for everyone,” says Judge Sellers. “However, as African American women we are sensitive to the history of criminal justice in our country. We want to be an example of how to do things right.”
 
Vote for what? Just vote? Dassit?
I’m sorry I didn’t hold folks hand through the process.
Ineffective office holders must be voted out. Sitting back and crying for unity is useless. This is your (if you live there) tax money, which pays for your (if you live there) services. It is a part of your quality of life (if you live there).

So vote, or participate and run for office.

Dassit
 
I’m sorry I didn’t hold folks hand through the process.
Ineffective office holders must be voted out. Sitting back and crying for unity is useless. This is your (if you live there) tax money, which pays for your (if you live there) services. It is a part of your quality of life (if you live there).

So vote, or participate and run for office.

Dassit
No one on this thread even lives there though
 

I'm reminded of this thread.

Oh @Camille your presence is requested

I'm on my way out. I need more context. Did the judges mess up? If they are messing up, vote them out.
 
picture the mayor and council all being named vernon jones....:roflmao::roflmao:
TRUE STORY: One Valentine's Day around sundown I was shopping at the CVS on Ponce (across from the old City Hall East) and Vernon walks in - we've known each other socially for years.

He confides in me that his girl had just locked him out of her crib because he showed up on Valentine's Day empty handed. Then he asks for advice on what he should buy (from the CVS!) that might smooth things over so he could still smash.

I tried to advise him that if she's already slammed the door in his face, a card and some drug store candy an hour later was not going to cut it. He bought some fake silk flowers and a Whitman's Sampler anyway. I never did ask him how she reacted to the gifts...
:hithead:
 
TRUE STORY: One Valentine's Day around sundown I was shopping at the CVS on Ponce (across from the old City Hall East) and Vernon walks in - we've known each other socially for years.

He confides in me that his girl had just locked him out of her crib because he showed up on Valentine's Day empty handed. Then he asks for advice on what he should buy (from the CVS!) that might smooth things over so he could still smash.

I tried to advise him that if she's already slammed the door in his face, a card and some drug store candy an hour later was not going to cut it. He bought some fake silk flowers and a Whitman's Sampler anyway. I never did ask him how she reacted to the gifts...
:hithead:
and look here i truly believe you.. :roflmao: :roflmao: i knew vernon thur my sister and he was trying his best to push up on her...
that nigga was silly...:lol::lol:....i use to fuck with this one chic on east ponce & memorial my sis use to hit me up and say
im in yo girls hood right now fucking with this clown vernon...with the help of him got us a contract with the city of atlanta to tow
and store high end luxury cars for a few certain individuals.......
 
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remember to vote folks

:lol:

Oh they did vote and it's all blacks folks, wow i thought voting and putting black people in important positions would change things for black people for the greater good. :dunno:

I'm confused

:puzzled:
Yeah! I'm confused too, can some please explain... They said vote, seems like a lot of black people did and this is what happened.

VOTE!! They're all "ELECTED" of officials.... smh
 
Vote.

Unless you are one of those folks who believes voting doesn’t work
@mangobob79 @Drayonis
Bump one time for the culture

Please explain what happened here ????? :dunno: looks like they got the votes, almost everyone is black???? umm you must vote crowd we need answers. (first it's gonna be spin moves if they even answer, next it'll be I'm trolling)

 
Are yall talking Vernon the sheriff who shot his sidepiece in her Open House while showing off his gun...and got away with it?
 
Please explain what happened here ?????
Don't know what happened here, but I'll tell you a quick story. I got hired to play bass for this artist. During rehearsal setup, we were talking about a past election, and the guitarist said, "Maaan, I didn't know who half of dem niggas was, so I just picked a name that sounded trustworthy!", and one of the background singers said, "Yooo, me too!", and then everybody laughed.
 
Don't know what happened here, but I'll tell you a quick story. I got hired to play bass for this artist. During rehearsal setup, we were talking about a past election, and the guitarist said, "Maaan, I didn't know who half of dem niggas was, so I just picked a name that sounded trustworthy!", and one of the background singers said, "Yooo, me too!", and then everybody laughed.
at least your not ducking and hiding like the others, I respect that in it self.

Will you admit that all black folk don't have every black person's best interest at heart? and having a bunch of black folks in office simply because they were voted in doesn't necessarily mean betterment and change for black people?

:puzzled:
 
my yard man missed a week

i got this in the mail

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yes that actually says $1000 per day and 60 days in jail for my slightly overgrown grass

:cool:
 
Remember to vote folks

:lol:

Oh they did vote and it's all blacks folks, wow i thought voting and putting black people in important positions would change things for black people for the greater good. :dunno:

I'm confused

:puzzled:
Ok, so vote these assholes out, til you find a competent set of officials.

It’s like starting a business, the first one may fail.
 
Im not sure what about the voting process is so hard for some of you guys to understand.

There are no guarantees, but that part is understood by everyone. Im not sure why this needs to be repeated on a board supposedly full of adults.

There is homework to do. Vet the candidates. Or become a candidate yourself. Consider your personal, the family, the community... Best candidate might be black and might not be either.

Things might go wrong. You might vote for the wrong people. Maybe the people you voted for just werent effective at their jobs and failed to deliver. But guess what, theres always another chance to remove the ones who shouldnt be there and replace them with those who can get the job done.

At the end of the day if you didnt vote and didnt present yourself as a candidate, YOU CANT COMPLAIN ABOUT SHIT.
 
my yard man missed a week

i got this in the mail

a26ZDgf.jpg


yes that actually says $1000 per day and 60 days in jail for my slightly overgrown grass

:cool:

Man, I have the greatest related story of all time. In my hometown, there's this white guy, who is a Vietnam Vet, that has a long beard looking like Marty Stouffer from Wild America. He told us of the time when the HA in his neighborhood was on his case about cutting the grass in his yard. It had to be under X amount of inches. He has one of those Volkswagon vans from the 60s/70s. He cut that ho in three parts, removed the middle and welded the ends together. He even got a wheeling bar on it in the back. So, to get the HA to shut the fuck up, instead of cutting the grass, he took that van and did "burnouts" and donuts in his yard to where all the grass was under X inches. Mud and grass was slung everywhere, even on other people's homes. They couldn't say shit since his grass was under the limit.
 
Im not sure what about the voting process is so hard for some of you guys to understand.

There are no guarantees, but that part is understood by everyone. Im not sure why this needs to be repeated on a board supposedly full of adults.

There is homework to do. Vet the candidates. Or become a candidate yourself. Consider your personal, the family, the community... Best candidate might be black and might not be either.

Things might go wrong. You might vote for the wrong people. Maybe the people you voted for just werent effective at their jobs and failed to deliver. But guess what, theres always another chance to remove the ones who shouldnt be there and replace them with those who can get the job done.

At the end of the day if you didnt vote and didnt present yourself as a candidate, YOU CANT COMPLAIN ABOUT SHIT.
yeah but we've done all that, why are we as black people basically still in the same position in this country? while voting helps, voting has not been the answer and will not get us on a equal playing field in this country.
 
Remember to vote folks

:lol:

Oh they did vote and it's all blacks folks, wow i thought voting and putting black people in important positions would change things for black people for the greater good. :dunno:

I'm confused

:puzzled:
What's new? Black folks been falling for the 'it's black faces so it must work' politics for half a century. They quickly find out black politicians just as crooked and/or incompetent as the white ones but with worse connections. :lol:

All the elected officials going to do is plug their families with positions in local government and local contracts. Once they realize the citizens don't demand much and are apathetic, it's like hitting the lotto. They get white in a hurry.

I always laugh when folks get hype for black/woman politicians like that means shit going to change. Fucking idealistic newbies. Anyone from NE Ohio is hip to how tokens work.

Wish it were different.
 
Im not sure what about the voting process is so hard for some of you guys to understand.

There are no guarantees, but that part is understood by everyone. Im not sure why this needs to be repeated on a board supposedly full of adults.

There is homework to do. Vet the candidates. Or become a candidate yourself. Consider your personal, the family, the community... Best candidate might be black and might not be either.

Things might go wrong. You might vote for the wrong people. Maybe the people you voted for just werent effective at their jobs and failed to deliver. But guess what, theres always another chance to remove the ones who shouldnt be there and replace them with those who can get the job done.

At the end of the day if you didnt vote and didnt present yourself as a candidate, YOU CANT COMPLAIN ABOUT SHIT.
Well ya might wanna include VET THE CANDIDATES in your marching orders you send out with the whole scare tactic of "our ancestors DIED for this!"


Cuz guess what. The ancestors had simple marching orders.

Now you have to figure out what it is you hope to accomplish locally and nationally , before just assuming everyone wants what you want, therefore go vote. Which means what? Discuss ISSUES. Not shit like "so and so is a Tom, or this one's racist!"

If people don't know what they want from a politician it's probably because what they want can't be provided by one.
 
Hell, history has shown us that!
I agree but i feel like a large portion of the you must vote crowd doesn't. I could be wrong but it seems to me the main ideaology of the you must vote crowd is that as long people of color flood the voting booths and get other blacks in office position simply we'll prevail as if no other race exist that could do the same on election days.
 
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