Charles Barkley: LeBron James will never be a top-five NBA great

Lol @ Oscar avg a triple double and not being top 5
If averaging a triple double was the goal of every player then he would be at the top of the list... But if Jordan was to average a triple double for three years and not win shit, those years would not be close to the highlight of his career...
 
Thats you and @KingTaharqa battle Bruh! :lol:

My point is, Barkley doesn't warrant being in a discussion concerning LeBron, because between the two of them, he was embarrassingly deficient on the defensive end, and the areas where he was more dominant than LeBron don't come close to outweighing the areas LeBron is more dominant than him...
:giggle::giggle:
 
If averaging a triple double was the goal of every player then he would be at the top of the list... But if Jordan was to average a triple double for three years and not win shit, those years would not be close to the highlight of his career...
Name 1 other player that average a triple double, just one...
 
See this is why I be like :hmm::smh: with you; If a player could average 10pts, 10rbs, and 10 assist the whole year, that wouldnt be average; that would be far from average; and if it was so easy to do why hasnt anyone ever did it outside of Big O??? now Big O stats please:
Career: 25.7pts, 7.5rbs, 9.5asst, 49%fg..those are great #s, not good, great!!!!!
Season:
60-61: 30.5pts, 10.1rbs. 9.7asst
61-62: 30.8pts, 12.5rbs, 11.4asst
62-63: 28.3pts, 10.5rbs, 9.5asst
63-64: 31.4pts, 9.9rbs, 11asst
64-65: 30.4pts, 9.0rbs, 11.5asst
65-66: 31.3pts, 7.7rbs, 11.1asst
66-67: 30.5pts, 6.2rbs, 10.7asst
:eek2::eek2::eek2::eek2:
When has Westbrook every just average 30pts per game?? Dont you ever compare Westbrook or any player to Big O; dont you ever say a player that averages a triple double for a season can be considered average; I like I said before if a top 5 all time list doesnt include the BIG O then that list is complete bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

These number are great but with out one ring, its more Westbrook than Jordan...
 
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not just that barley had yrs where he was averaging over 1 blks a game and close to 2 stls a game plus he was a monster on defensive rebounding... like i said he averaged a double/double.. nigs wasn't trying to battle the chuckster..sir charles for the win
:ssshhh::ssshhh:they not listening bro.....
 
Name 1 other player that average a triple double, just one...
This is why I said it more unique than great... I think Oscar number are great, not because of the triple doubles but the points he was putting up while making those triple doubles... But with out at least one ring it sound kind of Westbrook-ish...
 
u kno imm a mess with u juss for the fact them dudes are pretty dead even when it comes to blocks and steals..so how exactly is lebron so much a dominant force compared to barkley on the defensive side??? hell like i tell everybody kd drops 30 on the reg on lebron so where's this superb defense that people be talking about

Assist, versatility, controlling a game, intangibles, carrying bad teams, overall impact, and you know DAMN well LeBron is much better defensively. Both in terms of general defense AND the fact that he's guarded multiple positions regularly, moreso earlier in his career... How many all defensive teams teams did Barkley make again? I lost count! :lol:
 
This is why I said it more unique than great... I think Oscar number are great, not because of the triple doubles but the points he was putting up while making those triple doubles... But with out at least one ring it sound kind of Westbrook-ish...
:hmm::smh:...I cant do this; You just said averaging a triple double is more unique than great:hmm:; You couldnt have never played bball to make that comment, never; Im out I cant do this...
 
Assist, versatility, controlling a game, intangibles, carrying bad teams, overall impact, and you know DAMN well LeBron is much better defensively. Both in terms of general defense AND the fact that he's guarded multiple positions regularly, moreso earlier in his career... How many all defensive teams teams did Barkley make again? I lost count! :lol:
He guarded one center and people act like he guarded Shaq or Hakeem. Just because a player plays the center position, doesn't mean that it's their natural position. They hardly have real centers anymore. Where was that stellar defense against Leonard and Iggy?
 
These number are great but with out one ring, its more Westbrook than Jordan...
He has a ring, 1971:ssshhh:...again just stop; and if rings what makes the player great; Then there is absolutely no comparison of MJ and LBJ; 6 to 3; there is no comparison to Kobe and LBJ; 5-3; Magic 5-3; Tim Duncan, either; hell Wade has 3; so that means him and LBJ are equal; His equal to bird then as well:hmm:; Please just stop...
 
:hmm::smh:...I cant do this; You just said averaging a triple double is more unique than great:hmm:; You couldnt have never played bball to make that comment, never; Im out I cant do this...
Are you going to look me in the eyes with a strait face and tell me that if they told LeBron, Magic and Jordan that the new object of the game was to get a triple double not win championships, that they wouldn't average that shit a year??
To me a triple double is a feather in the cap only if you win, if you lose and get that shit, it comes off a bit like stat chasing...
 
Assist, versatility, controlling a game, intangibles, carrying bad teams, overall impact, and you know DAMN well LeBron is much better defensively. Both in terms of general defense AND the fact that he's guarded multiple positions regularly, moreso earlier in his career... How many all defensive teams teams did Barkley make again? I lost count! :lol:
how many double/double season lebron had i lost count... barkley had yrs where he averaged more defensive rebounds than lebron total rebounds.. barkley had a season where he averaged almost 15 rebs and averaged 1.5 blks a game..can u point out a yr lebron did the same??? by the way he still put up 20+ points that season.. don't fuck with the chuck..sf/pf every yr and he was 6 foot 6:eek::eek:.. that lebron playing diff positions is overrated..nigs act like lebron play center and he shut down tim duncan or getting more blocks than dikembe.. nig play other positions and shit dosen't change
 
He has a ring, 1971:ssshhh:...again just stop; and if rings what makes the player great; Then there is absolutely no comparison of MJ and LBJ; 6 to 3; there is no comparison to Kobe and LBJ; 5-3; Magic 5-3; Tim Duncan, either; hell Wade has 3; so that means him and LBJ are equal; His equal to bird then as well:hmm:; Please just stop...
Like I said Oscar is not great just because of the triple doubles, he was great because of the way he played and the numbers he put up getting the triple doubles...
As stated all a player has to do is average ten pts, ten rebounds and ten assist and he would have a triple double, Oscar didn't do that.....
 
Are you going to look me in the eyes with a strait face and tell me that if they told LeBron, Magic and Jordan that the new object of the game was to get a triple double not win championships, that they wouldn't average that shit a year??
To me a triple double is a feather in the cap only if you win, if you lose and get that shit, it comes off a bit like stat chasing...
Another dumb thing; you just cant stop saying them; If any player could average a triple double they would, point blank period; Every player in this generation is about stats, dont get it twisted; they all are to some degree; Some are more than others, but they are all about stats; regardless if a player could do it, he would; has any of those players done it??? Only one that came close is magic; LBJ, :giggle: please stop it.........Again I know you never have touch a basketball; And I know alot of you havent; You can always tell by the comments they make...
 
how many double/double season lebron had i lost count... barkley had yrs where he averaged more defensive rebounds than lebron total rebounds.. barkley had a season where he averaged almost 15 rebs and averaged 1.5 blks a game..can u point out a yr lebron did the same??? by the way he still put up 20+ points that season.. don't fuck with the chuck..sf/pf every yr and he was 6 foot 6:eek::eek:


so... when there is a stalemate concerning statistical dominants... normally the deciding factor is what? :idea:
 
Like I said Oscar is not great just because of the triple doubles, he was great because of the way he played and the numbers he put up getting the triple doubles...
As stated all a player has to do is average ten pts, ten rebounds and ten assist and he would have a triple double, Oscar didn't do that.....
Show me a player that has average 10 10 and 10, just 1...
 
The two things I look at with Oscar is that he was the MVP once and champion once, LeBron was the best player by far in the NBA during his era.. The only ones close to him are Kobe, Durant, and Curry, and head to head match ups LeBron destroyed all of them...
 
Bringing a championship to a city in a 52 year drought.....check

Becoming the first ever player to lead every statistical category in the history of the NBA Finals.....check

Break Magic Johnson's triple-double Finals record...soon to be check

One of only five players with back to back 40 point game in the Finals....check

Leading your team to a championship after being down 3-1 in the Finals, the first time it's ever been.done.....check.

4 time MVP and 3 time finals MVP Check.

Going to the Finals 7 straight years...check/ check

You sir don't know what your saying. He's done enough your just being intellectually dishonest.

Lofty credentials as any top 5 candidate should have! Don't get me wrong I love Lebron....just at No.6! Haha!
 
This is why I said it more unique than great... I think Oscar number are great, not because of the triple doubles but the points he was putting up while making those triple doubles... But with out at least one ring it sound kind of Westbrook-ish...
oscar months be looking better than nigs careers..don't ever shit on the big o..westbrook is not on that level
 
Dumb fuck is contradicting himself. How do you have the greatest career ever but not be in the top 5?!?!?

he was talking outside of basketball...in terms of endorsements...money earned...never getting in any legal troubles (which he specified)...idk I took it as a jab actually...imo it's almost the equivalent of saying "he speaks so well"
 
he was talking outside of basketball...in terms of endorsements...money earned...never getting in any legal troubles (which he pointed)...idk I took it as a jab actually...imo it's almost the equivalent of saying "he speaks so well"

...absolutely. Barkley is all over the place most of the time though. Dude is coming off as desperately trying remain relevant really... :smh:
 
oscar months be looking better than nigs careers..don't ever shit on the big o..westbrook is not on that level
I love the big O, but in terms of all time top five, you got to have more hardware than one championship and one MVP... In my opinion you have to be the top player in your era, or at least the top two ...
 
Right its not hard:hmm:; So name 1 player in the history of professional basketball that has done it....:popcorn::popcorn:
My argument is that its unique and by definition unique means something that is rarely if ever accomplished..
Shit a pitcher thats able to pitch with both hands is unique, doesn't make him the best pitcher in the world either...
 
I love the big O, but in terms of all time top five, you got to have more hardware than one championship and one MVP... In my opinion you have to be the top player in your era, or at least the top two ...
...damn. I'm about to go get drunk as fuck! I actually agree with this Dude on this point!?!?! Da fuck is wrong with me? :confused:
 
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