Charles Barkley: LeBron James will never be a top-five NBA great

who would u put him pass right now seriously...?

thats really tuff...if he`s in the top 5 ...that shit will be interchangeable like a mugg for almost everybody.....lol

top 4 is easy...but 5 not so much...thats where it gets debatable ...:rolleyes2:


I agree! Lebron needs to do just a bit more for a top 5 inclusion!
 
Sort of puzzling how people can still keep Magic ahead of LeBron at this point? Who was flashy No Doubt, but he only had one more trip, and statistically LeBron blows him away otherwise except for maybe a cyst they may be pretty close and rebounds, but LeBron has done more with so much last throughout his career than magic did. LeBron replaces magic in any top five listing and it's really not even close.
 
Lebron has a legitimate shot at ending his career as the game's all-time leading scorer. He'll definitely finish top 3. He's not a "shooter" but he's definitely a scorer.

Kareem has 38K.
Lebron has 26K.

It took 13 youthful seasons to get the first 68%.

No chance he will continue at his current pace, availability and level of desire. Plus he is being guarded by the greatest defender of all time.

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Why does anything Barkley says gets posted here after his comments about his own people:smh:

Not sure what point you are trying to make but.... Ok :confused:
chuck was showin his ass when all the shit in Ferguson, MO was going down. He was way outta pocket with some of the shit he was saying about black folk, and caping hard for cops

I actually stopped watching TNT pre/post game for a while cause that shit had me so heated.
 
Kareem has 38K.
Lebron has 26K.

It took 13 youthful seasons to get the first 68%.

No chance he will continue at his current pace, availability and level of desire. Plus he is being guarded by the greatest defender of all time.

He doesn't need to go at his current pace. If Lebron gives you 6 more seasons at 22 points per game, that gets him to 38k. (I'm giving him 8 playoff games average over those years).
 
He doesn't need to go at his current pace. If Lebron gives you 6 more seasons at 22 points per game, that gets him to 38k.

Six years means completing his 19th season. He won't have legs by then. He has played too much basketball. Too many post seasons. Too many minutes.
 
I agree! Lebron needs to do just a bit more for a top 5 inclusion!

Bringing a championship to a city in a 52 year drought.....check

Becoming the first ever player to lead every statistical category in the history of the NBA Finals.....check

Break Magic Johnson's triple-double Finals record...soon to be check

One of only five players with back to back 40 point game in the Finals....check

Leading your team to a championship after being down 3-1 in the Finals, the first time it's ever been.done.....check.

4 time MVP and 3 time finals MVP Check.

Going to the Finals 7 straight years...check/ check

You sir don't know what your saying. He's done enough your just being intellectually dishonest.
 
Six years means completing his 19th season. He won't have legs by then. He has played too much basketball. Too many post seasons. Too many minutes.

He'll definitely play 6 more seasons. If Duncan could.. if Dirk ends up with 20, I don't see why Lebron can't...especially considering he's been an iron-man and doesn't get hurt.

Remember he just has to average 22. So if he, for instance, puts up 26 per game over the next 3, he only needs to average 18 over the last 3. That's definitely NOT out of the question. He'll make a run at it.

And remember, he's getting long playoff runs to help him (at high scoring rates). He got 21 games in during this playoffs. That's almost an additional season over the next 4 years and I don't think it's hard to believe that Lebron will make deep playoff runs over the next 2-3 years at minimum.

What you guys are discounting is that Lebron has consistently made deep playoff runs over his career. He started early plus he's going deep in the playoffs every year + he's rarely sitting out games because of injury.
 
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This finals surely put him above Kobe.
I am not sure how people still putting him below Kobe.
 
He'll definitely play 6 more seasons. If Duncan could.. if Dirk ends up with 20, I don't see why Lebron can't...especially considering he's been an iron-man and doesn't get hurt.

Remember he just has to average 22. So if he, for instance, puts up 26 per game over the next 3, he only needs to average 18 over the last 3. That's definitely NOT out of the question. He'll make a run at it.

And remember, he's getting long playoff runs to help him (at high scoring rates). He got 21 games in during this playoffs. That's almost an additional season over the next 4 years and I don't think it's hard to believe that Lebron will make deep playoff runs over the next 2-3 years at minimum.

What you guys are discounting is that Lebron has consistently made deep playoff runs over his career. He started early plus he's going deep in the playoffs every year + he's rarely sitting out games because of injury.
All due respect, can you please do like they do in elementary school and show your work with the 22 PPG over the next six seasons Theory?
 
All due respect, can you please do like they do in elementary school and show your work with the 22 PPG over the next six seasons Theory?

22 points per game.

The season is 82 games. However, Lebron averages 78 games per season.

Lebron played 21 playoff games this season. But let's make it modest. Over the next 6 seasons he only averages to get to the ECF and EC semis. That gives you 10 more games per season average. That's if every single series is a sweep. That's the least amount of games he can play.

S0 we have 88 games per season (regular season and playoffs).

88 x 22 x 6 = 11, 616 points.

Which would pull him just shy of 38k points. I think those are conservatives numbers for Lebron considering he probably has 2-3 years of prime left. Only thing keeping him from that would be injuries (like Kobe suffered late in his career).
 
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He'll definitely play 6 more seasons. If Duncan could.. if Dirk ends up with 20, I don't see why Lebron can't...especially considering he's been an iron-man and doesn't get hurt.

Bruh, how many points were averaged by Duncan or Dirk or Garnet or Kobe these last 2 seasons?

None of these have Lebrons workload.

Every player gets hurt when they get old.
Players don't recover when they get old.

Bruh, ALL sports heroes hit that sharp decline.

Lebron will compete for 3 all time with Kobe.
 
Bruh, ALL sports heroes hit that sharp decline.
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No true. Dirk just finished his 18th season and he still lead the Mavs in scoring.

Dirk is 38 years old and just averaged 18 points per game. It's not out of the question for Lebron to do that...and remember that's all he would likely need to average over his last 3 seasons to make a run at it if his teams continue to make deep playoff runs.
 
22 points per game.

The season is 82 games. However, Lebron averages 78 games per season.

Lebron played 21 playoff games this season. But let's make it modest. Over the next 6 seasons he only averages to get to the ECF and EC semis. That gives you 10 more games per season average. That's if every single series is a sweep. That's the least amount of games he can play.

S0 we have 88 games per season (regular season and playoffs).

88 x 22 x 6 = 11, 616 points.

Which would pull him just shy of 38k points. I think those are conservatives numbers for Lebron considering he probably has 2-3 years of prime left. Only thing keeping him from that would be injuries (like Kobe suffered late in his career).
So you're basing your projections on LeBron consistently making it to the later stages of the playoffs every year? In addition to that, you're anticipating that as he ages, his body starts to wear down, more than likely his minutes played and his usage will diminish, as well as predicating it on the team that he's on always being good enough to go to the Conference Finals, and you're basing your estimates on him continuing to average say 78 games per season? That's a lot of what-ifs to basic projection on bro?!
 
No true. Dirk just finished his 18th season and he still lead the Mavs in scoring.

Dirk is 38 years old and just averaged 18 points per game. It's not out of the question for Lebron to do that...and remember that's all he would likely need to average over his last 3 seasons to make a run at it if his teams continue to make deep playoff runs.
Dirk's style of play, in the less amount of knowledge he has on his legs, is more conducive to playing at a high level and standard at 38 then LeBrons is. For all of his greatness and versatility, LeBron has been at this a very long time. To anticipate him still playing at this level or even a level one or two rungs lower from 35 on is a bit of a reach.
 
22 points per game.

The season is 82 games. However, Lebron averages 78 games per season.

Lebron played 21 playoff games this season. But let's make it modest. Over the next 6 seasons he only averages to get to the ECF and EC semis. That gives you 10 more games per season average.

S0 we have 88 games per season (regular season and playoffs).

88 x 22 x 6 = 11, 616 points.

Which would pull him just shy of 38k points. I think those are conservatives numbers for Lebron considering he probably has 2-3 years of prime left. Only thing keeping him from that would be injuries (like Kobe suffered late in his career).

You do know that the All-Time career point total is for the season only.
Playoffs are not included.
 
To anticipate him still playing at this level or even a level one or two rungs lower from 35 on is a bit of a reach.

He doesn't have to play at his current level to do it. I've just explained it to you. If Lebron averages (who is still in his prime) averages nearly 26 points per game over the next 3 (It's not out of the question for Lebron to score 25-26 per game at age 34). He would only need to score 18 per game over his final 3 seasons to make a run at it. That's NOT out of the question.
 
You do know that the All-Time career point total is for the season only.
Playoffs are not included.

So right now, he's 12th at 26,833 points. He's 11554 behind Kareem.

If you give him 75 games per seasons. He would need to average 25 per game to catch Kareem if he played 6 more seasons. That would get Lebron up to 37 years old.

Lebron would need to be one of those old heads that played until he was 40.. like how Duncan did or how Dirk will likely do to make a run at it.

The playoff leading scorer title is going to easily be his though.
 
Y'all always talking about Chuck comments like he doesn't ahve the right to his opinion. We talking about the best players to ever play. All multiple NBA champions. Its all debatable. I'd personally wait until Lebron's career is over to compare him to other greats but that's just me.
 
Charles is just a sourpuss hating ass bitch ass nigga that's all there is to it. The only team the nigga likes is the spurs. Whoever else wins he shits on them whoever else does well he shits on them.

Listen bitch ass nigga we didn't make you marry that ogor of a white skank ass bitch ass wife
nobody made you underachieve and never win a fucking ring.
Nobody made you fat
nobody makes you gamble
you did this to yourself.
Now shut up talking about players and where they stand in greatness and just stick to commenting on actual games in real time. that's it.
 
Barkley would also have to play defense on LeBron as well? :idea:
how good is an exhausted beat up lebron.. u played ball u should already kno how much energy it takes to guard a monster on the post game or how much energy it is boxing out for them boards..sir charles for the win
 
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