Charlemagne: DEI is garbage

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Why the fuck does everyone think DEI only = Black?!?!? We are hated so much that we are immediately the only group attacked when this shit benefits not only Black people
the only way to kill it is to put a black face on it. When was the last time that there was a welfare debate that didn't imply that welfare is only for blacks and illegals?
 

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Black folks= the face of these initiatives, yet receive minimal benefits, but ALL of the WRATH.


According to another McKinsey study, white women hold nearly 19% of all C-suite positions, while racial and ethnic minority women only hold 4%. Overall, white women have benefited disproportionally from corporate DEI efforts.

"It's very easy for companies to think, we've delivered on women, on gender, we have parity. But without looking at data intersectionally, looking at groups across signs of difference, we may not see the groups for whom we aren't creating the conditions to thrive. For Black colleagues, the barriers they face to advancement seem to be largely invisible to their white colleagues," says Lanaya Irvin, CEO of Coqual.
 

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Women lose ground in the C-suite​

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Female executives have lost “momentum” and seats at the table in the movement toward gender parity. Of the approximately 15,000 C-suite roles at companies in the S&P Global Total Market Index, just 11.8% are held by women, down from 12.2% the prior year, a recent report from S&P Global Market Intelligence shows. The decline represents the absolute loss of 55 to 60 seats and marks the first reversal after two decades of consistent growth. Growing trepidation about Diversity, Equity and Inclusion initiatives may have played a role, according to researchers, who pushed back C-suite parity forecasts by up to 7 years.

 

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Roland school'd Charlamagne on DEI


I’m going to make an ignorant comment but I don’t care.

CthaGod is what happens when a fool reads a few books and think they know everything vs. someone who actually has studied for years and can speak on topics from an educational standpoint.

It’s just like pastors. Most pastors atleast the ones I know who have a PHD in theology will tell you Jesus was black.

He wants to be Dick Gregory or John Henry Clarke, but my brother just reading Malcolm X autobiography isn’t going to be enough to speak on what AA need, our culture, or our history.
 
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I’m going to make an ignorant comment but I don’t care.

CthaGod is what happens when a fool reads a few books and think they know everything vs. someone who actually has studied for years and can speak on topics from an educational standpoint.

It’s just like pastors. Most pastors atleast the ones I know who have a PHD in theology will tell you Jesus was black.

He wants to be Dick Gregory or John Henry Clarke but brother just reading Malcolm X autobiography isn’t going to be enough to speak on what AA need, our culture, or our history.
i agree!!
 

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Im curious about this though. What difference do you think it would make compared to DEI initiatives or even compared to something like Affirmative action in schooling?

Has throwing money at something, socially, ever really improved it?

San Francisco's reparations Task Force recommended 5 million per adult. California's task force recommendations are very confusing, but I see 1.2 million a person. Would that make a significant difference in your family? It would for mine.
Off the top of my head, 1.2 million a person:
1.) Could pay for private school and college for my children which could increase their earning potential and the resources that they could provide for their children.
2.) Provide opportunities for generational wealth via investment. Whether Real Estate or safe ETFs.
3.) Reduce poverty
4.) Increases the healthy food options available.
I am not seeing or hearing about DEI accomplishing any of this.
Sure there are some people that can and will blow the money. Just like every group of people that have received money and benefits. You can't really compare Reparations to past programs because nothing has come close. Social services often increase dependence rather than motivate independence.
 

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San Francisco's reparations Task Force recommended 5 million per adult. California's task force recommendations are very confusing, but I see 1.2 million a person. Would that make a significant difference in your family? It would for mine.
Off the top of my head, 1.2 million a person:
1.) Could pay for private school and college for my children which could increase their earning potential and the resources that they could provide for their children.
2.) Provide opportunities for generational wealth via investment. Whether Real Estate or safe ETFs.
3.) Reduce poverty
4.) Increases the healthy food options available.
I am not seeing or hearing about DEI accomplishing any of this.
Sure there are some people that can and will blow the money. Just like every group of people that have received money and benefits. You can't really compare Reparations to past programs because nothing has come close. Social services often increase dependence rather than motivate independence.

Question. If a politician said they wanted to raise your taxes to pay reparations to Native Americans, would you vote for them or the policy?
 

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Question. If a politician said they wanted to raise your taxes to pay reparations to Native Americans, would you vote for them or the policy?

It would depend on the amount of tax increase and who they deemed as "Native American". There are conditions in which I would vote for it. That said, Reparations does not have to be funded by taxes on middle class income or property taxes. Monetary sources could be businesses that profited from slavery, business taxes, a wealth tax, import tariffs on countries that profited from slavery, and multiple other monetary sources.

Since World War 2, the US has GIVEN Israel 260 Billion. What years did we vote on it?
 

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A lawmaker proposed a bill that would ban DEI in medical schools. Doctors say it could roll back progress toward improving Black maternal health.​

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Medical professionals and health equity advocates worry that proposed laws that target DEI programs in medical schools could roll back progress toward building medical school courses that are inclusive of all identities.

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Dr. Versha Pleasant has dedicated her career to finding ways to erase the racial health inequities facing Black mothers.

A clinical assistant professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of Michigan Medical School, Pleasant said she developed a curriculum that teaches the history of racism in obstetrics and gynecology in the US.

The curriculum was part of a pilot project and covered James Marion Sims— a doctor who once performed experimental surgeries on enslaved Black women without anesthesia, Pleasant said.

This treatment, she added, inspired the false belief that Black women can withstand greater amounts of pain than White women.

While Pleasant says she didn’t teach the material this year, she fears her efforts to reintroduce it could be challenged if a new bill targeting DEI efforts in federally-funded medical schools medical schools passes.

Last month, North Carolina Republican Rep. Greg Murphy introduced the “Embracing anti-Discrimination, Unbiased Curricula, and Advancing Truth in Education (EDUCATE) Act” would amend the Higher Education Act of 1965 to prohibit medical schools from getting federal funding if they adopt policies or requirements related to DEI, including promoting beliefs that a person’s sex, race, ethnicity or skin color makes them a member of an oppressed group, or that the US is a “systemically” racist country.

The bill was referred to the House Committee on Education and the Workforce in March, but has yet to be put to a vote.

If it ever becomes law, some medical professionals and health equity advocates say it could roll back the progress they have made in building medical school courses that are inclusive of all identities. They also told CNN the anti-DEI legislation could thwart efforts to teach medical students how to understand and communicate with different cultures, recruit students that reflect the racial makeup of the country and dispel racial stereotypes and myths in health care.

Related article What is DEI and why is it dividing America?
A 2016 study by researchers at the University of Virginia found that medical students and residents believed Black patients had a higher pain tolerance than White patients and “less accurate treatment” recommendations were made due to those flawed beliefs about their biology.

In a study published last year, researchers who tracked US mortality rates each year between 2000 and 2019, found that for diabetes and kidney disease, maternal and neonatal disorders, and HIV/AIDS and sexually transmitted infections – mortality was consistently higher among the Black population than the White population.

“The racial health disparities we are seeing today are unacceptable,” said Pleasant. “There is an urgent need for positive change in our medical system and we are not going to see that positive change unless we make the conscious effort to educate our medical students who represent the future.”

Nearly a year after the Supreme Court voted to overturn affirmative action in college admissions, conservative lawmakers are leading a nationwide movement to ban diversity, equity and inclusion programs from boardrooms and publicly-funded colleges across the country.

Murphy’s office did not respond to CNN’s request for an interview about the “EDUCATE Act.” But in a statement released last month, the congressman said medical schools were “no place for discrimination” and suggested DEI was a “divisive ideology.”

“The EDUCATE Act compels medical schools and accrediting agencies to uphold colorblind admissions processes and prohibits the coercion of students who hold certain political opinions,” Murphy said in the statement. “Diversity strengthens medicine, but not if it’s achieved through exclusionary practices.”

Related article As the nation battles a maternal health crisis, more women of color are choosing birth centers over hospitals
Dr. Stanley Goldfarb, former associate dean of the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania and a supporter of the EDUCATE Act said DEI offices often inject politics into medicine and patient care and train students to be social justice advocates.

Goldfarb told CNN that medical schools should be “race blind” and that he opposes race-based affinity groups and race-conscious admissions.

“There’s no good evidence that that’s going to lead to better health care,” he said.

But doctors and professors at some of the nation’s most prestigious medical schools tell CNN their DEI programs are not exclusionary and were in fact created to help address persistent racial disparities in medicine.

Pleasant said banning DEI could also jeopardize the work medical schools are doing to combat the Black maternal health crisis. Black women are nearly two and a half times more likely to die from pregnancy complications than White women, according to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

In 2023, President Joe Biden officially designated April 11-17 of each year as Black Maternal Health Week to raise awareness about the disparity.

Some experts say banning DEI programs in medical schools could exacerbate poor health outcomes for Black and brown people.

Dr. Mary Fleming, director of the Leadership Development to Advance Equity in Health Care at Harvard’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health, said some of the university’s medical school courses cover the nation’s history of racial health disparities, which include discussions about slavery and oppression.

In those same courses, students and faculty are learning how to overcome their biases and treat all patients equally, Fleming said.

The EDUCATE Act, she said, challenges medical schools’ ability to talk about the origins of false, racial beliefs in health care and learn from them.

“If we are not able to think about and talk about those disparities as they exist today and where they came from… then we won’t be able to create intervention to correct them,” Fleming said.

Dr. Italo Brown, a clinical assistant professor of emergency medicine at Stanford University School of Medicine, said DEI offices at Stanford and at other medical schools were created to ensure there is a safe and inclusive space for students of color, students with disabilities and the LGBTQ+ community.

Related article DEI efforts are under siege. Here’s what experts say is at stake
The offices also help develop curriculum that reflects the lived experiences of diverse groups, Brown said. These lessons and classroom conversations often highlight the implicit bias some people, including Black moms, face in medical facilities and how to prevent it, he said.

“You’re teaching physicians this in real time,” Brown said. “Instead of trying to make doctors on the back end understand these elements and have a lens of health equity, you’re actually weaving it into the training as they go.”

Dr. Rachel Blake, a Boston-based Ob-Gyn and board member for the nonprofit Chamber of Mothers, said laws like the EDUCATE Act would also make it more difficult for DEI offices at medical schools to recruit students that reflect the US population.

A study by researchers at the Perelman School of Medicine at the University of Pennsylvania revealed that patients were more likely to give their doctor the maximum patient rating in surveys when they shared the same racial or ethnic background.

Blake said she believes diversity is not only key to increasing the number of Black and brown Ob-Gyns, but also training all doctors to provide culturally-sensitive care.

A small study involving 32 Black women by researchers at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill found that the women expressed a “clear preference” for Black Ob-Gyns because of experiences with racism and discrimination over their lifetimes and during obstetrics care.

“Black moms, Indigenous moms and their babies have better outcomes when they have someone on their medical team that looks like them or shares their race or ethnicity,” Blake said. “This is really a detrimental bill to the medical system trying to have a workforce that reflects the patient population.”

Pleasant, meanwhile, said she is concerned that removing DEI from medical schools will mean doctors aren’t prepared to fully assess and treat patients of all racial and gender identities.

“We are doing our medical students an incredible disservice by eliminating DEI in the curriculum,” Pleasant said. If the bill is passed, “our future health care workforce will not have adequate tools to combat racism and bias in medicine.”
 

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It is a comedy show at the end of the day.

The fact that people took Trevor Noah, or john Stewart for that matter, serious as journalists shows the dumbing down of America that has been happening for decades.

Names like Cronkite, Rather, Jennings.ect used to mean something. Now any talking head can say anything and be considered a journalist.

You can thank the mainstream media for putting out bullshit that comedians call out for years. Making jokes out of hypocrisy is a traditional part of their art.
 

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Common really saw in to the future -
saw cthagod -
went back and wrote:

I see the bitch in you when you don't speak your mind
The bitch in you, looking me in my eyes lyin
I see the bitch in you, simply hard, you find

The bitch in you but yo it's coming out
 

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Common really saw in to the future -
saw cthagod -
went back and wrote:

I see the bitch in you when you don't speak your mind
The bitch in you, looking me in my eyes lyin
I see the bitch in you, simply hard, you find

The bitch in you but yo it's coming out

Gawd damn

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Let me share my truth...DEI is bullshit. While the intent may have been altruistic for some companies, for most it was/has been performative. Listen... I'm connected in...a good number of the figure heads serving as CDOs, are either gay, female, a lawyer, or black person who make whites feel comfortable.

Here's an interesting fact, the majority prominent diversity firms, or publications are owned and/or headed up by white people. I challenge anyone on this board or outside this board to dispute my comments.
 

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Let me share my truth...DEI is bullshit. While the intent may have been altruistic for some companies, for most it was/has been performative. Listen... I'm connected in...a good number of the figure heads serving as CDOs, are either gay, female, a lawyer, or black person who make whites feel comfortable.

Here's an interesting fact, the majority prominent diversity firms, or publications are owned and/or headed up by white people. I challenge anyone on this board or outside this board to dispute my comments.
How is DEI bullshit? Per your commentary, is it the corporations performative or DEI?

Unless, I'm misunderstanding, you're describing how corporations lied or at best were less than genuine on its adoption of DEI. Hypothetical, there's a requirement for the beatification and upkeep of a park. A person is stated to be granted full authority of said park, but doesn't have power to hire/fire gardeners, irrigation engineers, waste management, as well as does not have purchasing power for materials and supplies for said upkeep and beatification. Is it the beautification requirement bullshit? Are the figure heads responsible, for not having the authority to carry out their duties? Or is the onus on the entity who .... you know where I'm going.
 

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How is DEI bullshit? Per your commentary, is it the corporations performative or DEI?

Unless, I'm misunderstanding, you're describing how corporations lied or at best were less than genuine on its adoption of DEI. Hypothetical, there's a requirement for the beatification and upkeep of a park. A person is stated to be granted full authority of said park, but doesn't have power to hire/fire gardeners, irrigation engineers, waste management, as well as does not have purchasing power for materials and supplies for said upkeep and beatification. Is it the beautification requirement bullshit? Are the figure heads responsible, for not having the authority to carry out their duties? Or is the onus on the entity who .... you know where I'm going.
Let me say this... privately held corporations have one responsibility... maximize the wealth of it's owners/shareholders.

If the DEI leader doesn't report into CEO or head executive, it ain't serious, if the CDO don't have the financial resources to drive DEI it's bullshit...all smoke and mirrors... I'm in the space...I know. Company's embrace dei for or two reasons...they $ee the light or they are feeling the heat, and usually it's a combination of both. I'm don't apologize for telling the truth...I make my bread in this industry... it's a hustle.
 

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What else do you expect from this coony groomer? He host a podcast with a rimjobing racist. He sucked Wendy Williamms dick to get on with his niggary bisexual bastard lips.
 
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