Cavs vs Warriors Part II - it's on

I'll say that Kawhi is maybe top 10

Durant was MVP that's means you had the best contribution to a team for a whole season! Finals MVP just means you had 1 great series. It's been people who won the Finals MVP who weren't even all star caliber players so the regular season MVP means you had to do more to me. Come on, you taking Leonard over Russ?! Man Russ is an uncaged beast out there! He want to win more then anybody when he on that court and he waaay more talented than Leonard to me. An PG is a more skilled Leonard. Look at his numbers coming off missing damn near a whole season and he in the MVP race so far. An he been guarding people. Leonard ain't the only one who defends.
I'm taking the guys who actually carry teams. Below are all leaders of their respective teams and I am taking all of them ahead of Kawhi
p r a
Kawhi 21 7 3
PG-13 25 8 4
Russ 25 7 9
KD 26 8 4
the Brow 23 11 3blks
Harden 29 6 7
Curry 31 5 6
Bron 26 8 6


Man Kawhi can lock each one of them fools the fux up
 
3rd to me is kawhi Leonard

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Yep Kawhi is a complete player he does not take plays off and he always give LeBron problems when they face each other.

Tell Kawhi to play with no help like LBJ did with his first stint in Cleveland; Tell him to play at a high level with high expectations every single night since hes been in the league then get back to me...

I'd take PG13 KD an Russ an AD over Kawhi. I think he might not be top 10 or barely top 10

I would take them also and its not even close...
 
I'll say that Kawhi is maybe top 10

Durant was MVP that's means you had the best contribution to a team for a whole season! Finals MVP just means you had 1 great series. It's been people who won the Finals MVP who weren't even all star caliber players so the regular season MVP means you had to do more to me. Come on, you taking Leonard over Russ?! Man Russ is an uncaged beast out there! He want to win more then anybody when he on that court and he waaay more talented than Leonard to me. An PG is a more skilled Leonard. Look at his numbers coming off missing damn near a whole season and he in the MVP race so far. An he been guarding people. Leonard ain't the only one who defends.
I'm taking the guys who actually carry teams. Below are all leaders of their respective teams and I am taking all of them ahead of Kawhi
p r a
Kawhi 21 7 3
PG-13 25 8 4
Russ 25 7 9
KD 26 8 4
the Brow 23 11 3blks
Harden 29 6 7
Curry 31 5 6
Bron 26 8 6
You talking stats I'm talking results, Kawhi has proved he can take over a team in the playoffs when it counts the most. None of those other guys have other than LeBron and Steph.
 
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Tell Kawhi to play with no help like LBJ did with his first stint in Cleveland; Tell him to play at a high level with high expectations every single night since hes been in the league then get back to me...
I'm talking about Kawhi being a good defender on LeBron. You bringing up other stuff that wasn't even what the discussion was about.
 
How Kyrie Irving’s Return Makes For An Even Better Christmas Day Game
Kelley L Cox l USA TODAY Sports

Kyrie Irving already has two games under his belt since fracturing his kneecap in Game 1 of the NBA Finals against the Golden State Warriors. Irving completes the vaunted Big Three of the Cleveland Cavaliers and winning streaks are sure to be in store for the team. With Irving back in the starting lineup, this makes the Cavaliers extremely deep and versatile.

The team now has three viable options at the point guard position in Irving, Mo Williams, and Matthew Dellavedova. They also have Iman Shumpert and J.R. Smith at the shooting guard position. They can even run Mo Williams and Kyrie Irving at the shooting guard spot as well if need be. LeBron James is the starting small forward with Richard Jefferson backing him up. Jefferson has proven to be an upgrade over Shawn Marion from last year with his three point shooting and whatever remains of his athletic ability. Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson are holding down the four position. While Timofey Mozgov is starting at center with Tristan Thompson sometimes stepping in at the slot as well as Anderson Varejao.

This is the deepest team the Cavaliers have had in a long time. Maybe the deepest team in franchise history.

Coach David Blatt wants to limit Kyrie Irving’s minutes and usage starting out in order to work him back into game shape. They are also taking this measure because he is coming off a serious knee injury which he spent a lot of time rehabbing. The last thing the Cavaliers need is another injury for their All-Star point guard. Coach Blatt is expected to gradually increase Irving’s minutes game by game beginning with the finals rematch against the Golden State Warriors on Christmas Day.

The big showdown against the Warriors on Christmas Day is finally here. This is the day that the Cavaliers have been looking forward to since the Warriors defeated them in Cleveland back in June. The Warriors have started off the season with a 27-1 record which is an amazing accomplishment. However, with the return of Kyrie Irving, these two teams are now very evenly matched with the slight edge arguably going to the Cleveland Cavaliers.

With both teams having crowded lineups, a fierce battle is sure to be on their hands. The rivalry is now extremely strong especially with some comments that were made by some of the Warriors players after they won their championship. Draymond Green acted in an extremely arrogant manner and Klay Thompson was also captured on video after the NBA Finals by saying that the Warriors had the true best player in the world in Stephen Curry. LeBron James might have something to say about this but he will just let his game do the talking.

The Individual matchups are intriguing to say the least. Kyrie Irving against Stephen Curry is the first one. It would be natural to say that Curry has the edge on Irving because he won the NBA MVP last year, and is having an unbelievable season this year but Irving has fared well against him historically and most especially in their last matchup which dates back to Game 1 of the finals.

Iman Shumpert against Klay Thompson is the second matchup. Thompson can absolutely light it up from anywhere on the court while Shumpert is a tenacious defender. It’s a classic offense versus defense standoff on this one, but that’s not to look past the facts that Thompson is also an above average defender and Shumpert can also hold his own on offense.

An interesting wild card matchup here would be J.R. Smith against Andre Iguodala. Both are veterans who have seen their best individual years in other teams, but are now playing specific roles in championship caliber teams. The Warriors swingman holds some bragging rights by virtue of his NBA Finals MVP award while the Cavaliers shooter holds a huge chip on his shoulder after underperforming when the team needed him most back in June.

The last matchup to anticipate is LeBron James against Draymond Green. James is still the best player on the planet contrary to what has been said in the media lately about Stephen Curry. NBA players all over the league know who the real king is and that is James. Meanwhile, Green is enjoying a breakout season and has stamped his class as one of the league’s best all-around guys. Both can do a myriad of things on the floor and the statsheet will be filled because of them. Obviously, James has the edge over Green even if the Cavaliers forward is having a bad night but the color that this matchup promises is just too good that it hypes this game even further.

Despite the oddsmakers favoring the Golden State Warriors, the Christmas Day win is very much within reach for the Cleveland Cavaliers. They are now beginning to really hit their stride with the return of Kyrie Irving. The chemistry is also at peak and these guys are truly having fun out there and it is a good sight to see. Hopefully, the Cavs continue this positive trend to get a win for Christmas and continue their good play for the upcoming four-games-in-five-nights road trip coming up.
 
Just was saying TT was playing to high that a damn center along with him squatting down...
 
You talking stats I'm talking results, Kawhi has proved he can take over a team in the playoffs when it counts the most. None of those other guys have other than LeBron and Steph.

How did he prove it an the others didn't? Other than the brow everyone else won a playoff series. KD an Russ went to the finals. PG went to the ECF. To each his own though. I'm taking about 9 players before him.
 
I'm talking about Kawhi being a good defender on LeBron. You bringing up other stuff that wasn't even what the discussion was about.

My comment was directed to yours saying he doesnt take plays off; its easy not to take plays off or give maximum effort when you arent the center of attention; Kawhi has always played on good teams with good or great players around him; play good defense when you are on a bad team with bad players; carry the load then; thats the point; to compare him to any of the top players and hes never been the man, I think is absurd...
 
How did he prove it an the others didn't? Other than the brow everyone else won a playoff series. KD an Russ went to the finals. PG went to the ECF. To each his own though. I'm taking about 9 players before him.
None of them won the chip yet though and has been finals MVP. KD defense is suspect, so is Westbrook and PG.
 
My comment was directed to yours saying he doesnt take plays off; its easy not to take plays off or give maximum effort when you arent the center of attention; Kawhi has always played on good teams with good or great players around him; play good defense when you are on a bad team with bad players; carry the load then; thats the point; to compare him to any of the top players and hes never been the man, I think is absurd...
Kevin Durant, Paul George and Russell Westbrook has all played on great teams as well so what's your point?
 
None of them won the chip yet though and has been finals MVP. KD defense is suspect, so is Westbrook and PG.
FUCK finals MVP! Man Iguadala won that wit his bullshit ass numbers avg like 12pts and 4reb. That shit don't mean nothing. EVERYBODY knows and every commentator said that Bron was the best player by far in that series. He really should've won Finals MVP last year.

You can take Kawhi though, he a good player. He ain't no MVP caliber player but he should finally be an Allstar and maybe get 3 team all NBA this year
 
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