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WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) believes Floyd Mayweather Jr. selected Miguel Cotto as his May 5th opponent because the Puerto Rican veteran is "an easier" fight. Alvarez and Cotto were the two boxers being considered for Mayweather's next fight. Cotto, the WBA's champion, was Mayweather's final choice.

The event, which takes place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, will feature Alvarez in the co-feature against former three division world champion "Sugar' Shane Mosley. Alvarez hopes to face Mayweather in 2013.

"Mayweather has the power to decide [his opponents] and he can do it one day because right now he's sitting on the throne. He chose to fight with Cotto, because he believes that he has less speed, moves a lot less and perhaps because he hasn't been the same [fighter as he was in the past]," Canelo said.

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-mayweather-picked-cotto-hes-easier--49588
 
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Or he chose him because he can sell ppvs. Can Saul say the same about himself. He shouldnt let the name "Mayweather" leave his lips anymore and worry about Mosley.
 
Well I agree Cotto would be easier than the Pac man!

Alaskanredman said:
WBC junior middleweight champion Saul "Canelo" Alvarez (39-0-1, 29KOs) believes Floyd Mayweather Jr. selected Miguel Cotto as his May 5th opponent because the Puerto Rican veteran is "an easier" fight. Alvarez and Cotto were the two boxers being considered for Mayweather's next fight. Cotto, the WBA's champion, was Mayweather's final choice.

The event, which takes place at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, will feature Alvarez in the co-feature against former three division world champion "Sugar' Shane Mosley. Alvarez hopes to face Mayweather in 2013.

"Mayweather has the power to decide [his opponents] and he can do it one day because right now he's sitting on the throne. He chose to fight with Cotto, because he believes that he has less speed, moves a lot less and perhaps because he hasn't been the same [fighter as he was in the past]," Canelo said.

http://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-mayweather-picked-cotto-hes-easier--49588
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I agree with Canelo... I think Cotto would be an easier fight than Canelo. I see Floyd stopping Cotto. Shane is going to be a Canelo showcase and in the post fight interview Canelo is going to talk big shit to sell a Canelo v Mayweather fight.
 
Goyaoboya said:
Well I agree Cotto would be easier than the Pac man!
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I don't. With him fighting Cotto at 154 and Cotto not having taken a tough fight in years, he's at the peak of his powers. I still got Mayweather going away by the 4th, Cotto's not a given.

Alaskanredman said:
I agree with Canelo... I think Cotto would be an easier fight than Canelo. I see Floyd stopping Cotto. Shane is going to be a Canelo showcase and in the post fight interview Canelo is going to talk big shit to sell a Canelo v Mayweather fight.
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It's too early in Canelo's career to say that. Who has he beaten? He didn't even look that good against Gomez.
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I don't. With him fighting Cotto at 154 and Cotto not having taken a tough fight in years, he's at the peak of his powers. I still got Mayweather going away by the 4th, Cotto's not a given.



It's too early in Canelo's career to say that. Who has he beaten? He didn't even look that good against Gomez.
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Yeah, people are taking shit for granted. Floyd hasn't fought a guy with Cotto's boxing skill and size in a LONG time, a long time, so to say that Floyd is gonna stop him? IDK, that's doubtful. And Canelo is who exactly and has beaten who exactly? The kid should just - like a lot of boxers - stfu and fight.
 
merce77 said:
Yeah, people are taking shit for granted. Floyd hasn't fought a guy with Cotto's boxing skill and size in a LONG time, a long time, so to say that Floyd is gonna stop him? IDK, that's doubtful. And Canelo is who exactly and has beaten who exactly? The kid should just - like a lot of boxers - stfu and fight.
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:yes:
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I don't. With him fighting Cotto at 154 and Cotto not having taken a tough fight in years, he's at the peak of his powers. I still got Mayweather going away by the 4th, Cotto's not a given.



It's too early in Canelo's career to say that. Who has he beaten? He didn't even look that good against Gomez.
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At Cotto's best, I would agree, but now... I think Cotto would get destroyed by Canelo. If Cotto had been fighting guys like Canelo or anyone of worth at 154... My pov might be different. I could be wrong, but on paper, Cotto isn't shit any more and Canelo has skills that are untested. I agree about the Gomez fight, but the problem is the ref fucked it up by stopping the fight before we got to see what Canelo could have done to recover. Let's not act like Cotto didn't have earlier fights were he struggled.
 
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merce77 said:
Yeah, people are taking shit for granted. Floyd hasn't fought a guy with Cotto's boxing skill and size in a LONG time, a long time, so to say that Floyd is gonna stop him? IDK, that's doubtful. And Canelo is who exactly and has beaten who exactly? The kid should just - like a lot of boxers - stfu and fight.
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Cotto doesn't have it in him any longer. Go back and look at the Mayorga fight... That guy can't compete with Floyd. Stoppage, might be a stretch, but I'll money on the ref stopping the fight because Cotto will just get picked apart. I would agree with you about most guys not even in the running to get the fight, talking shit, but Canelo has an agreement to get that slot to fight Floyd, and nothing sells fights like shit talking. He is doing his part.
 
Alaskanredman said:
Cotto doesn't have it in him any longer. Go back and look at the Mayorga fight... That guy can't compete with Floyd. Stoppage, might be a stretch, but I'll money on the ref stopping the fight because Cotto will just get picked apart. I would agree with you about most guys not even in the running to get the fight, talking shit, but Canelo has an agreement to get that slot to fight Floyd, and nothing sells fights like shit talking. He is doing his part.
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Good point.
 
Alaskanredman said:
At Cotto's best, I would agree, but now... I think Cotto would get destroyed by Canelo. If Cotto had been fighting guys like Canelo or anyone of worth at 154... My pov might be different. I could be wrong, but on paper, Cotto isn't shit any more and Canelo has skills that are untested. I agree about the Gomez fight, but the problem is the ref fucked it up by stopping the fight before we got to see what Canelo could have done to recover. Let's not act like Cotto didn't have earlier fights were he struggled.
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I haven't seen enough of Canelo to say whether he would beat Cotto or not and I doubt we'll see it later (because I think Cotto will retire if he loses).
Cotto struggled early but he wasn't talking like he should be a big time main eventer when he was struggling against Demarcus Corley.
Whatever his negatives, Ortiz was coming off a Fight of the Year candidate victory over the most significant welterweight not named Mayweather/Pacquiao. Canelo doesn't have that going for him and he needs to add a Shane Mosley to his resume (even a badly faded one).

Alaskanredman said:
Cotto doesn't have it in him any longer. Go back and look at the Mayorga fight... That guy can't compete with Floyd. Stoppage, might be a stretch, but I'll money on the ref stopping the fight because Cotto will just get picked apart. I would agree with you about most guys not even in the running to get the fight, talking shit, but Canelo has an agreement to get that slot to fight Floyd, and nothing sells fights like shit talking. He is doing his part.
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It's hard for some guys to look good against Mayorga but against Foreman and Margarito, he looked a lot sharper. He didn't show anything that made me say "This guy might be THE ONE." but he looked solid.
Once he and Floyd had other opponents, he should stop talking about Mayweather. He's not selling anything because there's nothing to sell. He goes into the Mosley fight overconfident and he will get beat and his name is scratched off the list.
 
merce77 said:
These are horrible times for boxing - are you insane? WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?:smh:
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I'm a "Best of times, worst of times" guy.

All the top fighters are fighting :thumbsup: but many of them aren't fighting other top fighters.:thumbsdown:
Floyd Mayweather is going up to fight Miguel Cotto.:yes:
Manny Pacquiao is fighting Tim Bradley.:smh:
Devon Alexander is fighting Marco Maidana :yes:
Sergio Martinez is fighting :yes: but not Julio Cesar Chavez Jr or even Felix Sturm:smh:
Lamont Peterson and Amir Khan will have their rematch:yes:
Tavoris Cloud is fighting:yes: but not against Bernard Hopkins or Chad Dawson:smh:but those two will fight each other and get that shit out of the way:yes:


Half full/half empty
 
Upgrade Dave said:
I haven't seen enough of Canelo to say whether he would beat Cotto or not and I doubt we'll see it later (because I think Cotto will retire if he loses).
Cotto struggled early but he wasn't talking like he should be a big time main eventer when he was struggling against Demarcus Corley.
Whatever his negatives, Ortiz was coming off a Fight of the Year candidate victory over the most significant welterweight not named Mayweather/Pacquiao. Canelo doesn't have that going for him and he needs to add a Shane Mosley to his resume (even a badly faded one).

It's hard for some guys to look good against Mayorga but against Foreman and Margarito, he looked a lot sharper. He didn't show anything that made me say "This guy might be THE ONE." but he looked solid.
Once he and Floyd had other opponents, he should stop talking about Mayweather. He's not selling anything because there's nothing to sell. He goes into the Mosley fight overconfident and he will get beat and his name is scratched off the list.
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I won't argue that Canelo needs bigger wins to really get people on his side and really Floyd's comments about that basketball player can be used on Canelo based on his resume... My point is simply on paper he has attributes and enough done on his resume to fight the top guy in his division... Seeing as how the top guy is Cotto and Cotto chose not to compete in his division, the guy can legitimately say I'm the tougher fight even if unproven. While I say that if Kirkland came out and said the same thing about Canelo choosing Shane... I would be on his side too.

Also with the Maryorga thing, I would never agree that a guy is elite if they have problems with Mayorga, but at one time, the idea that Mayorga was difficult to beat held a lot of weight at one point. Today... if you let an old, sloppy Mayorga even look some what competitive, it is over for you in general and you shouldn't be in a ring with an elite guy.
 
Alaskanredman said:
I won't argue that Canelo needs bigger wins to really get people on his side and really Floyd's comments about that basketball player can be used on Canelo based on his resume... My point is simply on paper he has attributes and enough done on his resume to fight the top guy in his division... Seeing as how the top guy is Cotto and Cotto chose not to compete in his division, the guy can legitimately say I'm the tougher fight even if unproven. While I say that if Kirkland came out and said the same thing about Canelo choosing Shane... I would be on his side too.

Also with the Maryorga thing, I would never agree that a guy is elite if they have problems with Mayorga, but at one time, the idea that Mayorga was difficult to beat held a lot of weight at one point. Today... if you let an old, sloppy Mayorga even look some what competitive, it is over for you in general and you shouldn't be in a ring with an elite guy.
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:confused:Mayorga wasn't competitive at all in that fight, Cotto out boxed him the whole fight, smartly I might add - and then knocked him out. Dude's style is all kinds of fucked up. The only dude that's really been able to look spectacular against Ricardo is Trinidad. Oscar won but looked crappy the whole fight until the ko and the same with Shane. Mayorga might not be elite but styles always make fights and his style is not compatible with many elite fighters. I still think Cotto wasn't going to take any risky fights in anticipation of his contract running out with Arum. Dude wanted to make some real money against a real opponent. If it wasn't anything to do with Top Rank - why did the Floyd fight get made the minute Cotto left Arum? I'm confident if Cotto hadn't been with Arum, this fight would have happened a while back.
 
merce77 said:
:confused:Mayorga wasn't competitive at all in that fight, Cotto out boxed him the whole fight, smartly I might add - and then knocked him out. Dude's style is all kinds of fucked up. The only dude that's really been able to look spectacular against Ricardo is Trinidad. Oscar won but looked crappy the whole fight until the ko and the same with Shane. Mayorga might not be elite but styles always make fights and his style is not compatible with many elite fighters. I still think Cotto wasn't going to take any risky fights in anticipation of his contract running out with Arum. Dude wanted to make some real money against a real opponent. If it wasn't anything to do with Top Rank - why did the Floyd fight get made the minute Cotto left Arum? I'm confident if Cotto hadn't been with Arum, this fight would have happened a while back.
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Maybe I missed something because I watched the fight and it wasn't the showcase I expected. Saying Cotto out boxed him is the truth, but you don't need to out box guys like Mayorga. He is called in to get dominated and knock out like what De la did. Yes, De la didn't look super impressive, but De la was old. It is debatable when Shane was shot but he was definitely old.

Mayorga was in that fight like he shouldn't have been and then he quit saying he hurt his hand, but then after the fight he was wiping himself down with that same hand.
 
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merce77 said:
:confused:Mayorga wasn't competitive at all in that fight, Cotto out boxed him the whole fight, smartly I might add - and then knocked him out. Dude's style is all kinds of fucked up. The only dude that's really been able to look spectacular against Ricardo is Trinidad. Oscar won but looked crappy the whole fight until the ko and the same with Shane. Mayorga might not be elite but styles always make fights and his style is not compatible with many elite fighters. I still think Cotto wasn't going to take any risky fights in anticipation of his contract running out with Arum. Dude wanted to make some real money against a real opponent. If it wasn't anything to do with Top Rank - why did the Floyd fight get made the minute Cotto left Arum? I'm confident if Cotto hadn't been with Arum, this fight would have happened a while back.
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Cotto is way tougher than Canelo. Cotto actually has a great chance to beat Mayweather. i cant wait. Canelo should worry about Mosley.
 
Oracle21 said:
Cotto is way tougher than Canelo. Cotto actually has a great chance to beat Mayweather. i cant wait. Canelo should worry about Mosley.
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I don't think he has a great chance but he has as good a shot as Canelo. The difference between the two is one has been in big fights and performed on the biggest of stages (even in defeat) while Canelo needs to fight some notable jr middles his damn self before pointing at someone else.
 
Canelo needs to fight somebody that wasn't on the contender show, lol. Just kidding. But seriously. His opposition is that level of fighter. He has to show more if he wants to be taken seriously. Honestly the easier fight for PBF would have been Canelo and not Cotto. At least to me.
 
Visitor Buk said:
Canelo needs to fight somebody that wasn't on the contender show, lol. Just kidding. But seriously. His opposition is that level of fighter. He has to show more if he wants to be taken seriously. Honestly the easier fight for PBF would have been Canelo and not Cotto. At least to me.
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I agree.
What he shouldn't do, if he beats Mosley, is sit around and wait on Floyd. HBO would be more than happy to show a fight between him and Kirkland. A win over Kirkland and then he can really talk about Floyd Mayweather.
 
merce77 said:
Nope. Styles make fights and I see Kirkland beating him. I always said, if someone beats Floyd it won't be a classic boxer, but a brawler.
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A big, strong guy who comes straight ahead and won't be flustered or frustrated.
Nah, that fight will never happen.
 
What makes ya'll think Kirkland can beat Floyd, cuz he punches hard?? Angulo had him damn near dead to rights, Floyd would beat Kirkland's ass, easily!!
 
O.J PIMPSON said:
What makes ya'll think Kirkland can beat Floyd, cuz he punches hard?? Angulo had him damn near dead to rights, Floyd would beat Kirkland's ass, easily!!
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How do you figure that? Floyd is much smaller, cannot brawl with or probably even hurt Kirkland - he'd have to run the whole night. Floyd may be able to let these dudes flurry on him against the ropes. But if he does that with Kirkland he's dead. And like you said Kirkland should have been out against Angulo - but he wasn't. Kirkland has one punch power, is fast, doesn't get frustrated and will walk through fire to put a hurt on you. Sometimes skills aren't enough to fight certain guys. Do you think Frazier had even half of Ali's skills, talent or ring IQ? C'mon bruh styles make fights. And Kirkland style is all kinds of fucked up for Floyd. Kirkland could earn that fight TWICE and you still wouldn't see it. You'll see Floyd vs Sergio before that fight, trust.
 
O.J PIMPSON said:
What makes ya'll think Kirkland can beat Floyd, cuz he punches hard?? Angulo had him damn near dead to rights, Floyd would beat Kirkland's ass, easily!!
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Cause Kirkland can probably eat Floyd's punches like a scooby snacks and he has the deadly combination of power and speed. He isn't as fast as Floyd, but all he needs to be is fast enough to touch him. No one is going to out box Floyd and it will take a motherfucker knocking his block off which is why I am willing to give Canelo the edge over Cotto because Canelo appears to be the stronger puncher of the two. With that said I can see Kirkland beating Cotto and Canelo.
 
merce77 said:
How do you figure that? Floyd is much smaller, cannot brawl with or probably even hurt Kirkland - he'd have to run the whole night. Floyd may be able to let these dudes flurry on him against the ropes. But if he does that with Kirkland he's dead. And like you said Kirkland should have been out against Angulo - but he wasn't. Kirkland has one punch power, is fast, doesn't get frustrated and will walk through fire to put a hurt on you. Sometimes skills aren't enough to fight certain guys. Do you think Frazier had even half of Ali's skills, talent or ring IQ? C'mon bruh styles make fights. And Kirkland style is all kinds of fucked up for Floyd. Kirkland could earn that fight TWICE and you still wouldn't see it. You'll see Floyd vs Sergio before that fight, trust.
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I agree with this and I'll add that I don't think Sergio wants any parts of Kirkland either. I don't want it to be fucked up and people think I'm saying that Kirkland is invincible or unbeatable because we already know he is very beatable, but the pressure he puts on motherfuckers is similar to Hagler's when he fought Hearns and nobody wants to be on the bad end of that unless they have too. It is one thing to box it is another thing to be dragged into a life or death fight.
 
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