Cam Newton is a Tier 3 QB - barely "startable".

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So it begins. No words on Palmer and Rivers (who led the NFL is turnovers this year though).

Cam should have kept dabbing and shit...you can't do shit for them to "love" you, boss.

http://www.espn.com/blog/carolina-p...t-a-tier-1-quarterback-and-now-hes-not-tier-2

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- I argued in August that Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton should be a Tier 1 quarterback.

I said it was ridiculous that the reigning NFL MVP, coming off a career-best 35 touchdown passes to go with 10 rushing touchdowns, should be Tier 2 when ESPN released its rankings compiled in a survey of 42 league insiders.

I said the player known for his “Superman'' celebrations should be ranked up there with Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.

I reminded that Hall of Famer Steve Young said Newton reached “rare air'' last season.

I was wrong.

Newton proved me wrong with statistically his worst season in most major categories. He proved me wrong by being unable to carry the Panthers, as banged up as they got on the offensive line, and win because of him.

Now I'm not certain if Newton is a Tier 2 quarterback based on the way the tiers are determined.

  • Tier 1: Can carry his team each week. Team wins because of him.

  • Tier 2: Can carry team sometimes but not as consistently.

  • Tier 3: Legit starter but needs heavy run game/defense to win.

  • Tier 4: Might not want this guy starting all 16 games.

  • Tier 5: Do not think this guy should be starting.
Based on this 6-10 season, Newton is closer to a third tier quarterback than a No. 2. With the exception of a Week 2 win against a bad San Francisco 49ers team in which he threw four touchdown passes, it's hard to argue Newton carried the Panthers in a game all season.


San Francisco 49ers team in which he threw four touchdown passes, it's hard to argue Newton carried the Panthers in a game all season.

His three interceptions in a Week 3 loss against the Minnesota Vikings were costly. So were the three, including a pick-6, he threw in Sunday's 17-16 season finale at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

He threw two or more touchdowns only four times and had one or fewer 11 times.

His completion percentage dipped to a career-low 52.9 percent and his passer rating fell to a career-low 75.8. He threw only 19 touchdowns, tied for the second fewest of his career.

That's not good enough for Tier 1 or 2.

Newton's not even in the top two in the NFC South, for certain trailing Atlanta Falcons' quarterback Matt Ryan and Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints.

One could argue he's fallen to No. 4 in the division behind the Bucs' Jameis Winston.

Heck, he has fallen to No. 4.

According to ESPN's Total Quarterback Rating, Ryan was No. 1 in the NFL with a rating of 83.4, Brees No. 6 at 72.1, Winston No. 12 at 64.9 and Newton No. 26 at 53.1.

Even during his MVP season of a year ago Newton (No. 12, 65.5) was third in the division in Total QBR behind Brees (No. 8, 69.9), Ryan (No. 9, 67.2).

Ranking behind them is nothing to be ashamed about, mind you. The South arguably is the top quarterback division in the NFL.

But if you're going to rise from last place in the division back to first as the Panthers aim to do in 2017, Newton has to perform at least at a Tier 2 level. The other quarterbacks will only be more dangerous as their defenses get better.

General manager Dave Gettleman still insists Newton is the player that can lead Carolina to the “Promised Land.'' He referred to the “Chicken Little'' story and said the sky is not falling.

But Newton fell hard this season, enough so that coach Ron Rivera said the first pick of the 2011 draft and the offense around him have to evolve in large part for the long-term health of his quarterback.

Newton finished this season with a sore shoulder that contributed to a dreadful 47.85 passer rating in the final two games. All season he couldn't escape pressure as easily as he has in past years.

Rivera has suggested less read-option and more play action to lessen the pounding on his quarterback, which he reminded isn't as “nimble'' as he approaches 28.

But Newton's threat as a runner was a big reason he was Tier 2 and why I argued he should be Tier 1. The combination of throwing and running made him lethal and harder to defend than arguably any quarterback in the league.


Take away his running, without a major improvement in completion percentage, and he's Tier 3. And Newton's completion percentage never has been stellar with only one in six seasons above 60 percent, that in 2013 when he completed 61.7 percent of his passes.

Brees, by the way, completed 70 percent of his passes this season. Ryan was at 69.9 percent.

So you can see why Newton says he needs a sabbatical, time to get completely away from football to heal physically and mentally from a rough season.

What kind of quarterback he'll be when he returns for the 2017 season remains to be seen.

But I can guarantee he won't be Tier 1.
 
NFL MVP Infuriates Black Lives Matter


August 15, 2016


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NFL MVP Quarterback Cam Newton has infuriated the left with his recent comments on race. When asked by a reporter whether or not people disliked him due to “racism”, Newton refused to take the bait and instead gave a smart and eloquent answer.



The Hollywood Reporter

NFL star Cam Newton gave a lengthy interview to GQ, which was posted online Monday morning, and there was immediate backlash to some of his comments on race in America.

The Carolina Panthers’ quarterback was voted the most valued player in the league last year for his tremendous play during the regular season, but he was also the point of regular ridicule for his demeanor and antics on the field, which came to a head after the Denver Broncos beat the Panthers in Super Bowl 50.

The 27-year-old Newton told GQ he believes people’s dislike of him has nothing to do with the fact that he is African American.

“It’s not racism,” Newton told the magazine. “Everybody’s entitled to their own opinion.”

When asked about a comment he made before Super Bowl 50 — “I’m an African-American quarterback that may scare a lot of people because they haven’t seen nothing that they can compare me to” — Newton replied, “I don’t want this to be about race, because it’s not. It’s not. Like, we’re beyond that. As a nation.”

Of course this infuriated BLM and the left. If you aren’t screaming “RACISM” at every little thing, you are obviously a sell-out who is part of the problem, right? It is funny that Black Lives Matter claims to be for freedom…but not freedom of thought for those who disagree with their warped, victimization-centric view of society.



Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/cam-newton-black-lives-matter/#ixzz4UopfEx3w
 
3rd tier in fantasy this season? Maybe.

Real life moving forward, probably not....I really hope not.

For FF it all depends on what type of league that you play in. In one of my leagues, we factored in completion percentages (+1 for a completion and -1 for an incompletion) and Cam nearly killed my team. I won a chip inspite of him. I picked up WW FAs like Kaepernick and Matt Barkley down the stretch. In one game Barkley threw 5 ints and still had more points than Cam...based on our scoring system.

I really hope that Cam can take his game back to the 2015 level of play from here on out. I think that whatever that is going in with Cam is partly mental and due to the hits and non-calls in his favor controversy. This dude had 1 call go in his favor all season long for helmet to helmet calls or illegal hits. And that is beyond disgraceful on the league's part.
 
3rd tier in fantasy this season? Maybe.

Real life moving forward, probably not....I really hope not.

For FF it all depends on what type of league that you play in. In one of my leagues, we factored in completion percentages (+1 for a completion and -1 for an incompletion) and Cam nearly killed my team. I won a chip inspite of him. I picked up WW FAs like Kaepernick and Matt Barkley down the stretch. In one game Barkley threw 5 ints and still had more points than Cam...based on our scoring system.

I really hope that Cam can take his game back to the 2015 level of play from here on out. I think that whatever that is going in with Cam is partly mental and due to the hits and non-calls in his favor controversy. This dude had 1 call go in his favor all season long for helmet to helmet calls or illegal hits. And that is beyond disgraceful on the league's part.

Cam was injured, playing behind a bad line, his WR1 was injured and never really covered from the knee injury. Everyone has an "off" year.. this is much ado about nothing unless it becomes a trend
 
Cam was injured, playing behind a bad line, his WR1 was injured and never really covered from the knee injury. Everyone has an "off" year.. this is much ado about nothing unless it becomes a trend

Yeah, I hear you...and like I said, I hope that his game is not trending in that direction too.

But after week 1 erryone is injured. Cam was playing injured last year too. He lost Steve Smith and Benjamin..had a no named WR corps and eventually he went on to have one of the best seasons in NFL history. He is a great player who elevated his play and the play of those arounf him. But like I said it seems as there is also a mental component to some of this too.


Losing the bowl the way that they did?
IDK

Not getting calls?
IDK

Tired of post game cac reporter antics?
IDK

Beef with the coach?
IDK

Background social issues interference?
IDK

I do not know what it is, but clearly he was not the same SUPER player this season.
 
Cam was injured, playing behind a bad line, his WR1 was injured and never really covered from the knee injury. Everyone has an "off" year.. this is much ado about nothing unless it becomes a trend

Just wait until we get Cam Robinson,Leonard Fournette or Dalvin Cook..
 
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Cacs was moist waiting to say this shit

I know Bomani bout to go in tho

So it begins. No words on Palmer and Rivers (who led the NFL is turnovers this year though).

Cam should have kept dabbing and shit...you can't do shit for them to "love" you, boss.

http://www.espn.com/blog/carolina-p...t-a-tier-1-quarterback-and-now-hes-not-tier-2

CHARLOTTE, N.C. -- I argued in August that Carolina Panthers quarterback Cam Newton should be a Tier 1 quarterback.

I said it was ridiculous that the reigning NFL MVP, coming off a career-best 35 touchdown passes to go with 10 rushing touchdowns, should be Tier 2 when ESPN released its rankings compiled in a survey of 42 league insiders.

I said the player known for his “Superman'' celebrations should be ranked up there with Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.

I reminded that Hall of Famer Steve Young said Newton reached “rare air'' last season.

I was wrong.

Newton proved me wrong with statistically his worst season in most major categories. He proved me wrong by being unable to carry the Panthers, as banged up as they got on the offensive line, and win because of him.

Now I'm not certain if Newton is a Tier 2 quarterback based on the way the tiers are determined.

  • Tier 1: Can carry his team each week. Team wins because of him.

  • Tier 2: Can carry team sometimes but not as consistently.

  • Tier 3: Legit starter but needs heavy run game/defense to win.

  • Tier 4: Might not want this guy starting all 16 games.

  • Tier 5: Do not think this guy should be starting.
Based on this 6-10 season, Newton is closer to a third tier quarterback than a No. 2. With the exception of a Week 2 win against a bad San Francisco 49ers team in which he threw four touchdown passes, it's hard to argue Newton carried the Panthers in a game all season.


San Francisco 49ers team in which he threw four touchdown passes, it's hard to argue Newton carried the Panthers in a game all season.

His three interceptions in a Week 3 loss against the Minnesota Vikings were costly. So were the three, including a pick-6, he threw in Sunday's 17-16 season finale at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

He threw two or more touchdowns only four times and had one or fewer 11 times.

His completion percentage dipped to a career-low 52.9 percent and his passer rating fell to a career-low 75.8. He threw only 19 touchdowns, tied for the second fewest of his career.

That's not good enough for Tier 1 or 2.

Newton's not even in the top two in the NFC South, for certain trailing Atlanta Falcons' quarterback Matt Ryan and Drew Brees of the New Orleans Saints.

One could argue he's fallen to No. 4 in the division behind the Bucs' Jameis Winston.

Heck, he has fallen to No. 4.

According to ESPN's Total Quarterback Rating, Ryan was No. 1 in the NFL with a rating of 83.4, Brees No. 6 at 72.1, Winston No. 12 at 64.9 and Newton No. 26 at 53.1.

Even during his MVP season of a year ago Newton (No. 12, 65.5) was third in the division in Total QBR behind Brees (No. 8, 69.9), Ryan (No. 9, 67.2).

Ranking behind them is nothing to be ashamed about, mind you. The South arguably is the top quarterback division in the NFL.

But if you're going to rise from last place in the division back to first as the Panthers aim to do in 2017, Newton has to perform at least at a Tier 2 level. The other quarterbacks will only be more dangerous as their defenses get better.

General manager Dave Gettleman still insists Newton is the player that can lead Carolina to the “Promised Land.'' He referred to the “Chicken Little'' story and said the sky is not falling.

But Newton fell hard this season, enough so that coach Ron Rivera said the first pick of the 2011 draft and the offense around him have to evolve in large part for the long-term health of his quarterback.

Newton finished this season with a sore shoulder that contributed to a dreadful 47.85 passer rating in the final two games. All season he couldn't escape pressure as easily as he has in past years.

Rivera has suggested less read-option and more play action to lessen the pounding on his quarterback, which he reminded isn't as “nimble'' as he approaches 28.

But Newton's threat as a runner was a big reason he was Tier 2 and why I argued he should be Tier 1. The combination of throwing and running made him lethal and harder to defend than arguably any quarterback in the league.


Take away his running, without a major improvement in completion percentage, and he's Tier 3. And Newton's completion percentage never has been stellar with only one in six seasons above 60 percent, that in 2013 when he completed 61.7 percent of his passes.

Brees, by the way, completed 70 percent of his passes this season. Ryan was at 69.9 percent.

So you can see why Newton says he needs a sabbatical, time to get completely away from football to heal physically and mentally from a rough season.

What kind of quarterback he'll be when he returns for the 2017 season remains to be seen.

But I can guarantee he won't be Tier 1.
 
Colin Powell fuck what bullshit that CAC got to say

Plenty of CAC QBs who reside in mediocrity never won a MVP or played in a super bowl to make articles about let's see those first

NFL MVP Infuriates Black Lives Matter


August 15, 2016


cam-newton-650-433-simon-bruty-si.jpg


NFL MVP Quarterback Cam Newton has infuriated the left with his recent comments on race. When asked by a reporter whether or not people disliked him due to “racism”, Newton refused to take the bait and instead gave a smart and eloquent answer.



The Hollywood Reporter

NFL star Cam Newton gave a lengthy interview to GQ, which was posted online Monday morning, and there was immediate backlash to some of his comments on race in America.

The Carolina Panthers’ quarterback was voted the most valued player in the league last year for his tremendous play during the regular season, but he was also the point of regular ridicule for his demeanor and antics on the field, which came to a head after the Denver Broncos beat the Panthers in Super Bowl 50.

The 27-year-old Newton told GQ he believes people’s dislike of him has nothing to do with the fact that he is African American.

“It’s not racism,” Newton told the magazine. “Everybody’s entitled to their own opinion.”

When asked about a comment he made before Super Bowl 50 — “I’m an African-American quarterback that may scare a lot of people because they haven’t seen nothing that they can compare me to” — Newton replied, “I don’t want this to be about race, because it’s not. It’s not. Like, we’re beyond that. As a nation.”

Of course this infuriated BLM and the left. If you aren’t screaming “RACISM” at every little thing, you are obviously a sell-out who is part of the problem, right? It is funny that Black Lives Matter claims to be for freedom…but not freedom of thought for those who disagree with their warped, victimization-centric view of society.



Read more: http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/cam-newton-black-lives-matter/#ixzz4UopfEx3w

Played himself
 
Nigga I don't see you passing out.Turkeys on thanksgiving like nino Brown!!!! Worry bout yo own team nigga!!!:angry:

First off, watch your tone. You don't know WTF I do. Second, is he fucking you or some shit??? I said what I said, and I live where I live, so if you really feel that way we can meet somewhere in town and discuss it in person potna...
 
First off, watch your tone. You don't know WTF I do. Second, is he fucking you or some shit??? I said what I said, and I live where I live, so if you really feel that way we can meet somewhere in town and discuss it in person potna...

I'm not meeting your ass no where to discuss nothing unless it's about some business/$$$$

I'm disappointed Cam said what he said but you niggas never bring up all the food he put in the street

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I'm not meeting your ass no where to discuss nothing unless it's about some business/$$$$

I'm disappointed Cam said what he said but you niggas never bring up all the food he put in the street

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My dude, I don't have an isue with Cam as a peeson, I have an issue with what he said. I'm well aware of what he does in town and I respect him for that. But I said then, and meant it. When it comes to riding for him behind him not getting his due for obvious reasons...... I ain't riding for him. The shit is obviously because they don't like him, why??? I know why, you know why, everybody knows why. But since Cam says it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.

You right, I took it too far. That shit just rubbed me the wrong way.
 
. 2. With the exception of a Week 2 win against a bad San Francisco 49ers team in which he threw four touchdown passes, it's hard to argue Newton carried the Panthers in a game all season.
Guess this was written before the road game at Redskins.

Brees, by the way, completed 70 percent of his passes this season. R
Love how he trashes Cam for not being able to carry a team but constantly throws Brees name in the mix... What's the Saints record been the last few years?
 
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Fantasy wise Cam was Horrible.

He played all 16 weeks and was ranked 19th overall QB with my leagues scoring.
 
People still don't peep how these receivers other than Olson drop a shit load of passes.
I had Benjamin and watched a lot Carolina games. Cam should have been feeding him the ball 15 times a game. There were games where Benjamin didn't even get a pass his way until the 3rd quarter.
 
Just wait until we get Cam Robinson,Leonard Fournette or Dalvin Cook..

Yeah... if Fournette falls to 8, you gotta take him...and then draft offensive linemen and a defensive end. If you take Fournette, I really think the 2nd + 3rd (unless someone amazing falls) should be OL. And next season, one of your first two picks should be OL too. If you invest in a franchise Qb who is also the most hit QB in the league, you need to invest in his OL.
 
I had Benjamin and watched a lot Carolina games. Cam should have been feeding him the ball 15 times a game. There were games where Benjamin didn't even get a pass his way until the 3rd quarter.

Benjamin got 118 targets this season (23rd...and he missed games with injuries). he got targets, he's just a HORRIBLE route runner and struggles to get separation.
 
Fantasy wise Cam was Horrible.

He played all 16 weeks and was ranked 19th overall QB with my leagues scoring.

He missed week 5. But yeah.. a lot of Cam's value is tied to his running (in FF)...he didn't run as much this year.
 
People still don't peep how these receivers other than Olson drop a shit load of passes.

Ginn Jr was pretty much the WR1 at the end of the season :smh:... I still think the issue is mainly OL... Cam likes to thrown down field.. he's not a dump off guy...so you need time for those routes to develop.
 
Guess this was written before the road game at Redskins.


Love how he trashes Cam for not being able to carry a team but constantly throws Brees name in the mix... What's the Saints record been the last few years?

Them muthafuckas lose every year...and when they had a remote chance to get into the playoffs, he went back to back games with 0 TDs and 6 INTs
 
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