BREAKING: INVASION HAS BEGUN..... Putin's "3-day war"... NOW... 1 YEAR 338 DAYS ...WAGNER HEAD SAYS GROUP STANDING DOWN AFTER CLAIMS OF DEAL
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Two drones flying from the direction of Ukraine hit a major Russian oil refinery near the border on Wednesday, the plant said, sending a ball of flame and black smoke billowing into the sky and prompting the plant to suspend production.
Russian refinery says it was struck by drones from direction of Ukraine
Two drones flying from the direction of Ukraine hit a major Russian oil refinery near the border on Wednesday, the plant said, sending a ball of flame and black smoke billowing into the sky and prompting the plant to suspend production.
very interesting debate over the drone strike in russian territory:
this is the Raybird 3:
www.airforce-technology.com
The Raybird 3 story is much more plausible to me than the idea of it being a zombie russian drone.
this is the Raybird 3:
Raybird-3 Unmanned Aerial System, Ukraine
Raybird-3 is a long-range unmanned aerial system (UAS) designed and manufactured by Skyeton, a Ukrainian aeronautical products manufacturer.
www.airforce-technology.com
The Raybird 3 story is much more plausible to me than the idea of it being a zombie russian drone.
Two drones flying from the direction of Ukraine hit a major Russian oil refinery near the border on Wednesday, the plant said, sending a ball of flame and black smoke billowing into the sky and prompting the plant to suspend production.
Russian refinery says it was struck by drones from direction of Ukraine
Two drones flying from the direction of Ukraine hit a major Russian oil refinery near the border on Wednesday, the plant said, sending a ball of flame and black smoke billowing into the sky and prompting the plant to suspend production.www.reuters.com
False Flag?
I saw somebody say this somewhere else too. The idea being that an attack like this on Russian soil my deter future shipments of MLRS and other heavy weaponry etc. out of fear of escalating the conflict. I don't know though; I still think that Putin's ultimate plan is to somehow hold on long enough in the South and East to make it until winter with very expensive heating costs for Europeans and lack of food everywhere especially for poorer countries. In that scenario, he then offers to stop interfering with the grain supply in exchange for sanctions relief.
It is like the opening days of this conflict when it seemed that certain European countries were hoping for a quick Ukrainian defeat so they could declare nothing could be done and resume regular business.
Its just that you can't trust reporting on near any happening in this war. Whenever one side blames another for a mystery event I'm skeptical. I've wondered out loud here before that I don't understand why ukraine hasn't fired more ordnance into RU. They're getting pounded all over, but haven't bothered to do so much as one significant attack back on the RU homeland. Why now?
I saw somebody say this somewhere else too. The idea being that an attack like this on Russian soil my deter future shipments of MLRS and other heavy weaponry etc. out of fear of escalating the conflict. I don't know though; I still think that Putin's ultimate plan is to somehow hold on long enough in the South and East to make it until winter with very expensive heating costs for Europeans and lack of food everywhere especially for poorer countries. In that scenario, he then offers to stop interfering with the grain supply in exchange for sanctions relief.
Its just that you can't trust reporting on near any happening in this war. Whenever one side blames another for a mystery event I'm skeptical. I've wondered out loud here before that I don't understand why ukraine hasn't fired more ordnance into RU. They're getting pounded all over, but haven't bothered to do so much as one significant attack back on the RU homeland. Why now?
man I think there’s an agreement….no one can tell me other wise….So much of this don’t make sense that it makes sense
Kyiv & Russia
We leave Kyiv intact only if y’all don’t attack Russian land..
like that’s absolutely the only way I believe the bullshit I’ve seen.
how many fuckers visited(or claimed) Kyiv
About 5 US political heads
5 celebrities (even had a fucking mini concert)
Countless number of EU officials
all during an active conflict
Its just that you can't trust reporting on near any happening in this war. Whenever one side blames another for a mystery event I'm skeptical. I've wondered out loud here before that I don't understand why ukraine hasn't fired more ordnance into RU. They're getting pounded all over, but haven't bothered to do so much as one significant attack back on the RU homeland. Why now?
Use this and zoom into where the conflict is most intense: https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#d:24hrs;@0.0,0.0,3z
You can see where there is heavy shelling etc. and also see what is happening in/around/beyond the border. It really is insane to see this in real time like this so you can see through the fog around all of this.
I'm solidly of the opinion that none of this makes sense, period. From RU's denazification justification for attacking, to UK's claim that they are a bastion of democracy and their defeat would signal the demise of western civilization.
Agree nazis going after nazis
for a while I called all of them nazis
Ukraine spoke the same language of many US politicians.
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Pretty good confirmation that the drone strike was indeed of Ukrainian origin:
wartranslated.com
WarTranslated - Dmitri Masinski
Russian-English language translation of intercepted call & other materials from the Russian invasion of Ukraine, to improve understanding of the conflict for the broader Western audience.
wartranslated.com
And yet, on the same day even and purely coincidental:
Heavy weapons from Germany arrive in Ukraine – DW – 06/21/2022
Ukraine on Tuesday said the first delivery of German howitzers and other heavy weapons had arrived. Meanwhile, the government in Berlin published a complete list of military aid sent or pledged to Kyiv.
www.dw.com
Given that the training started weeks ago for the heavy weapons, it is as if one story was used to distract from another...
And yet, on the same day even and purely coincidental:
Heavy weapons from Germany arrive in Ukraine – DW – 06/21/2022
Ukraine on Tuesday said the first delivery of German howitzers and other heavy weapons had arrived. Meanwhile, the government in Berlin published a complete list of military aid sent or pledged to Kyiv.
Given that the training started weeks ago for the heavy weapons, it is as if one story was used to distract from another...
These folks be all over the place
I’ll give weapons at some point, we will train Ukrainians soldiers up to our standards
what about the EU bid
well we have to talk about that
Turkey isnt going to stop the NATO expansion just like Ukraine will start the long path to the EU soon.
I've said this on here numerous times:
In an interview on Swedish television, a former NATO official, Stephanie Babst, said that Mr. Erdogan’s real agenda is domestic. “Primarily this is a message toward his electoral base at home,” she said. “He has an election ahead of him. The economic situation in Turkey is pretty gruesome and so he wants to demonstrate leadership. He wants to demonstrate that he is a heard leader and so he is, I am afraid to say, using Sweden and Finland in order to get his strategic messages across.”
He will try to milk everything he can get out of this but he isn't going to be able to stop it.
As for the EU, was not the conflict in 2014 based in part on Ukraine not even making it this far?
European leaders meeting Thursday are expected to back E.U. candidate status for Ukraine, a move that would mark a historic moment for the bloc and a major morale boost for Kyiv amid war with Russia.
Ukraine has long pushed for a path to membership, but Russia’s invasion added a new sense of urgency. In the immediate aftermath of the invasion, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky pleaded for special consideration, an idea backed by some member states and strongly opposed by others.
In a matter of months, however, Zelensky’s personal appeals, dogged Ukrainian diplomacy and support from high-profile E.U. officials and leaders have made what seemed like a long shot feel almost inevitable. Heading into Thursday’s summit, all 27 members states have expressed support for the idea of granting Ukraine candidate status, according to officials and diplomats, with conditions to be met later.
Given the history/rhetoric from russia over these two issues, nothing they can do in Ukraine going forward can make it a success. They not only managed to enlarge NATO but start the process of enlarging the EU. This is pure insanity.
Yesterday's about the 55% losses in the DPR was more hilarious in my view.
It has been alleged on here even that providing forces 50+ year old tanks etc. was a sign of winning, reality begs to differ.
Yesterday's about the 55% losses in the DPR was more hilarious in my view.
It has been alleged on here even that providing forces 50+ year old tanks etc. was a sign of winning, reality begs to differ.
I'm all for helping Ukraine, damn 50 -60 billion so far...
But when I saw Detroit go without clean water for as long as it did....
Talking about cutting SS and medicare...... it's running out and needs to die.
Not wanting to have universal health care for all Americans because it cost too much
No money for none of that shit...But let another country need our help we are like
We have like 800 military bases around the world...you think they let us stay there(in and around their country) for free? how much do they cost to run and upkeep?
Ok, I'm done, just had to get this off my chest before we pull another 50 billion out of our ass to help other countries.
But when I saw Detroit go without clean water for as long as it did....
Talking about cutting SS and medicare...... it's running out and needs to die.
Not wanting to have universal health care for all Americans because it cost too much
No money for none of that shit...But let another country need our help we are like
We have like 800 military bases around the world...you think they let us stay there(in and around their country) for free? how much do they cost to run and upkeep?
Ok, I'm done, just had to get this off my chest before we pull another 50 billion out of our ass to help other countries.