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General Staff: Entire Russian unit refuses to take part in hostilities after suffering losses in Kharkiv Oblast
ANASTASIIA KALATUR - FRIDAY, 10 JUNE 2022, 06:53 The personnel of a motor rifle brigade from the 1st Army Corps of the Russian Armed Forces has refused to continue to take part in the war in Ukraine after suffering losses during fighting with the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Kharkiv Oblast.www.yahoo.com
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Russians withdraw Buryat troops from Sievierodonetsk because theyre dropping like flies - Haidai
ALYONA MAZURENKO - THURSDAY, 9 JUNE 2022, 20:13 Serhii Haidai, the head of the Luhansk Oblast Military Administration, has reported that the Russians have withdrawn the remaining Buryat troops from Sievierodonetsk because they are significantly weaker than the Ukrainian troops.www.yahoo.com
The combat in the East is taking a toll on both sides. Ukraine needs more equipment while Russia needs troops.
This was almost a month ago but still true:
mannnn a few things I’ve learned
Russia ain’t about to run out of artillery
President Z, needs to stop listening to Boris Johnson….this shit might’ve been over now
Ukraine probably lose way more land than now vs coming to the negotiating table in March. If they stop listening to Joh
the EU have more finger pointing than a lil bit
Biden talk all that shit But he still wants to buy Russia oil
Turkey didn’t back off demands against Sweden and Finland….
Washington trying to find an exit ramp from Ukraine
i know this one might not be believable but them Ukrainians lie way more than the Russians![]()
They aren't going to run out of artillery shells but they are running out of current or even adequately maintained equipment. This shit is like something from the Onion. Also, I'm old enough to remember when it was insinuated on here and twitter that Russia was "saving" the good stuff for later.![]()
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This is for the "sanctions actually help Russia" crowd...
So, 2014 was because of EU aspirations but now we not only have a Ukrainian EU candidacy on the cards but NATO expansion as well (Sweden, Finland). Turkey is not in a position to do anything about Finland or Sweden. Erdogan is flailing (he threatened Greece today) because their economy is fucked. He wants concessions on the PPK and Gülen supporters for his domestic audience. You can tell how serious he is about blocking the process by the speed/ease at which it is progressing everywhere but Russophile twitter
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Senate committee passes bipartisan resolution supporting Finland, Sweden joining NATO - UPI.com
The Senate committee on foreign relations has passed a bipartisan resolution supporting Finland and Sweden joining NATO amid Russia's ongoing aggression in Europe.www.upi.com
As for the EU, I don't think you are reading the tealeaves correctly. There was outrage when Macron said this a few days back:
French President Emmanuel Macron has sparked a new wave of criticism and incomprehension over his calls to avoid humiliating Russia in Ukraine, showing up splits in the Western alliance.
Speaking to French media last Friday, Macron reiterated his belief that Russian leader Vladimir Putin must be given an exit from what he called his "historic and fundamental mistake" of invading Ukraine.
"We must not humiliate Russia so that the day when the fighting stops we can build an exit ramp through diplomatic means," the French head of state said, reprising an argument he made in early May.
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Macron draws new wave of criticism over call not to 'humiliate' Russia
French President Emmanuel Macron has sparked a new wave of criticism and incomprehension over his calls to avoid humiliating Russia in Ukraine, showing up splits in the Western alliance.www.france24.com
Just like when Kissinger said it, they aren't talking about avoiding "humiliating" putin because he is in a position of strength. This idea of providing him an exit stems from the exact opposite. Putin has fucked around with his 45D chess and now has Ukraine on the path to EU membership.EU countries aren't about to vote in favor of them joining and then not back them against Russia.
You can tell it is starting to get to Putin as this is completely out of character for him:
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Putin compares himself to a famous historical figure, worrying experts about his ambitions
“Putin has been tearing off a lot of masks — what he’s revealing rather consistently is Russia’s new imperial ambitions,” one expert said.www.nbcnews.com
He maintained for months with a straight face the he was only "denazifying" Ukraine with his wagner nazis but now that shit is out of control, he has just said fuck it.
I'm also shocked that one of the usual idiots on here hasn't posted yet bout the Russian/Nicaraguan military partnership that is going to bring the war to the West and really humble the US.I guess Girkin et al aren't the only ones a little more sober these days...
Man I’ve heard all of that EU chatter, it’s laughable to be honest
They dudes stay blaming each other for this and for that, not doing this not doing that…
hell they got some nations looking over their shoulders like mannn fuck this EU jerkoff fest
NBC news coverage…. Come on Brotha Zod, u way way more intelligent that
shit they might’ve well like Ukraine in the EU, it’s a mess so it would fit right in
What is wrong with NBC?
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Hailing Peter the Great, Putin draws parallel with mission to 'return' Russian lands
Russian President Vladimir Putin paid tribute on Thursday to Tsar Peter the Great on the 350th anniversary of his birth, drawing a parallel between what he portrayed as their twin historic quests to win back Russian lands.www.reuters.com
Also, do you realize how wild it is that you are dismissing Ukraine joining the EU? Literally 2014 was over an "aspiration" for Ukraine to do this and now we are talking about it in addition to NATO expansion. Truly unprecedented shit but I am all for it.![]()
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Not this shit again….
I can't wait for TASS to explain what "secrets" are in this plant.Speaking of that, what happened to the secret VIPS who were all fighting at the Azovstal plant? Recall, the russian and russophile narrative was that the defenders of the plant were fighting to the death and would never surrender as they were guarding super nazi Ukrainians along with covid bio lab secrets, NATO generals and more Hunter Biden secrets.
You can look at the DPR and see what they would do if they actually captured anything they thought people would care about...
Also, where do you find these accounts?This one had it all:
anti-vaccine, Scott Ritter, etc. Its also funny because you see how Russia animates a lot of the conservative social media in the US.
You are going to be waiting a while as flooding the space with bullshit is their MO.Only time will tell if this azot plant reflect its bigger brother in the south
Hunter Biden Man U better leave that along…
biolabs, well at first there wasn’t none, folks on here call others every name under the sun…Pentagon was denying it to end, Until China said what they said then all of sudden the congress lady admit to them.
Which was funny as hell
So will there be more information I’m not sure.
Hell I’m just a black muddafuck who’s cutting grass in the Da Boot.
now I must say I’m waiting for those fucking details Avozstal secrets too![]()
You are going to be waiting a while as flooding the space with bullshit is their MO.I guarantee that the Russians who are 100% not impacted by the sanctions (they are actually benefitting from them according to the idiot class) will ask for sanction relief in exchange for the "convicted" DPR prisoners.
Notice that the same techniques used to spread covid disinformation are being used now with Ukraine.
This is a longer read but it will give you more insight into what is going on:
Since its 2008 incursion into Georgia (if not before), there has been a remarkable evolution in Russia's approach to propaganda. This new approach was on full display during the country's 2014 annexation of the Crimean peninsula. It continues to be demonstrated in support of ongoing conflicts in Ukraine and Syria and in pursuit of nefarious and long-term goals in Russia's “near abroad” and against NATO allies.
In some ways, the current Russian approach to propaganda builds on Soviet Cold War–era techniques, with an emphasis on obfuscation and on getting targets to act in the interests of the propagandist without realizing that they have done so.1 In other ways, it is completely new and driven by the characteristics of the contemporary information environment. Russia has taken advantage of technology and available media in ways that would have been inconceivable during the Cold War. Its tools and channels now include the Internet, social media, and the evolving landscape of professional and amateur journalism and media outlets.
Distinctive Features of the Contemporary Model for Russian Propaganda
We characterize the contemporary Russian model for propaganda as “the firehose of falsehood” because of two of its distinctive features: high numbers of channels and messages and a shameless willingness to disseminate partial truths or outright fictions. In the words of one observer, “[N]ew Russian propaganda entertains, confuses and overwhelms the audience.”2
- High-volume and multichannel
- Rapid, continuous, and repetitive
- Lacks commitment to objective reality
- Lacks commitment to consistency.
Contemporary Russian propaganda has at least two other distinctive features. It is also rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and it lacks commitment to consistency.
Interestingly, several of these features run directly counter to the conventional wisdom on effective influence and communication from government or defense sources, which traditionally emphasize the importance of truth, credibility, and the avoidance of contradiction.3 Despite ignoring these traditional principles, Russia seems to have enjoyed some success under its contemporary propaganda model, either through more direct persuasion and influence or by engaging in obfuscation, confusion, and the disruption or diminution of truthful reporting and messaging.
We offer several possible explanations for the effectiveness of Russia's firehose of falsehood. Our observations draw from a concise, but not exhaustive, review of the literature on influence and persuasion, as well as experimental research from the field of psychology. We explore the four identified features of the Russian propaganda model and show how and under what circumstances each might contribute to effectiveness. Many successful aspects of Russian propaganda have surprising foundations in the psychology literature, so we conclude with a brief discussion of possible approaches from the same field for responding to or competing with such an approach.
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Russia's “Firehose of Falsehood” Propaganda Model
Russia's propaganda model is high-volume and multichannel, and it disseminates messages without regard for the truth. It is rapid, continuous, and repetitive, and it does not commit to consistency.www.rand.org
Yea we know Russia bullshit PR firms are A1
but seems like Ukraine PR firms do quite well also
hell Washington even amid they twisted stories to stay ahead of Russia
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Versions of this quote have been around forever regarding the Soviets/Russians:
“The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.”
This sinking of the Moskva is a great example of it in action. Crew of 500+ and hit with two 1,800lb + anti ship cruise missiles but the official line is still that one died and 27 are missing...
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Parent Of Missing Moskva Sailor Says He's Been Questioned By Russian Security And Had Laptop Seized
The father of one of the sailors who is feared to have died in the sinking of the Moskva in April, suspects that authorities are trying to halt him from seeking answers about their fate.www.rferl.org
The problem is that the russians and russophiles would like to have it both ways. This is TASS accurately reporting on Ukranian casualties using Zelensky as the source:
About 2,500-3,000 Ukrainian servicemen were killed and 10,000 injured since the start of Russia’s special military operation, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said.
"Judging by the figures that we have, we believe we had lost from 2,500 to 3,000 servicemen. <…> We have 10,000 injured, it’s hard to say how many of them will survive," he said in fragment of an interview to CNN, released on Friday.
Now, it can't be we have killed 2,500-3,000 troops and even Zelensky admits it AND , simultaneously, Zelensky spends all of his time exaggerating losses and the threat of defeat etc. to get more weapons and money from the West.![]()
Notice when Zelensky said recently up to 100 Ukrainian troops daily are dying now in the East, it was amplified widely by pro russian social media. Of course, the part where he also said 300+ Russians were dying daily was ignored:
The daily casualties of the Ukrainian armed forces amount to about 60-100 servicemen killed and around 500 injured, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky said in an interview to the Newsmax television.
"The most difficult situation is in the east of Ukraine and southern Donetsk and Lugansk," he said. "The situation is very difficult; we're losing 60-100 soldiers per day as killed in action and something around 500 people as wounded in action."
You see dumb shit like this across the board from the Russians. How many times have you seen pictures from pro russian social media celebrating the capture of of "western equipment" like this:
Recall the posts of Russians and Chechens with Javelin CLUs thinking they have captured the system?Apparently, that wasn't good enough so we got this from TASS:
The much-touted Javelin and NLAW man-portable anti-tank missile systems supplied by NATO countries to Ukraine have performed poorly on the battlefield and created numerous setbacks, a captured Ukrainian POW said in a video released by Russia’s Defense Ministry on Thursday.
"US military aid, to my mind, has been overhyped because the much-touted ATWS [anti-tank weapon systems] and grenade launchers, their Javelins and NLAWs that were heavily promoted, failed to prove their worth in practice. They suffered setbacks, with normally one out of four weapons firing and instances of duds or blasts 50 meters away from the target," the Ukrainian POW said.
Consider that we have visual confirmation of 700+ tank kills and something like 1,300+ other armored vehicles in large part due to the works of NLAWs and Javelins and the need for this article becomes apparent.The Russians actually got a bit greedy this time as they tried to also deflect from the issues with the high dud rate for their artillery.
If you want accurate information from the "russian" perspective, people like Girkin and some of the other ultra nationalists are way better than the hoteps and contrarians on twitter. For example, this is Girkin today reacting to some of the data from FIRMS showing that either Ukraine has some weapons that were delivered unannounced or there is siginifact partison/sabatoge ativity going on behind the Russian lines:
For Wagner group and other russian mercenaries, look at "reverse side of the medal" on telegram. Be warned these are actual nazis so you will get some wild shit on there when translated.![]()
Yup strait outta thereWhoa......
Lit they asses up
Guess he’s coming get an in person confirmation as to why his men got captured.
Maybe even try to slow the process of their Execution.
Would this hamper the NATO bid even more.on the subject of partisans...
Behind Enemy Lines, Scouts Help Ukrainians Execute Deadly Strikes
A nascent insurgency made up of civilians or former soldiers provided information that aided Ukraine’s attack on two Russian bases, according to a senior Ukrainian military official.
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Behind Enemy Lines, Scouts Help Ukrainians Execute Deadly Strikes (Published 2022)
A nascent insurgency made up of civilians or former soldiers provided information that aided Ukraine’s attack on two Russian bases, according to a senior Ukrainian military official.www.nytimes.com