BREAKING: INVASION HAS BEGUN..... Putin's "3-day war"... NOW... 1 YEAR 338 DAYS ...WAGNER HEAD SAYS GROUP STANDING DOWN AFTER CLAIMS OF DEAL
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Folks just need to keep it 100 when answering dude….…
“ looka here ole boy, they wasn’t left unarmed the shit Ukraine had in Febru got used thee fuck up…
mayne them fucks ran thru that ammo like it was aire
Ohhhh and the Rukies bomb the fuck outta them dudes equipment…..that ain’t helping
now Z man asking for more…
“ looka here ole boy, they wasn’t left unarmed the shit Ukraine had in Febru got used thee fuck up…
mayne them fucks ran thru that ammo like it was aire
Ohhhh and the Rukies bomb the fuck outta them dudes equipment…..that ain’t helping
now Z man asking for more…
Severodonetsk’s last stand: brilliant manoeuvre or reckless waste of life?
June 27 2022, 5.00pm BST
Even the password allowing reinforcements into Severodonetsk sounded like a bad omen. “Valhalla,” said Vortex, the commander of a rapid reaction infantry battalion, the phrase that cleared their path into the battlefield.
The name of the warrior afterlife of Norse legend “set off all my superstitions”, he said. “I thought what a stupid choice, now we will not come back, even though it would be a heroic defence.”
Days later, with his forces depleted and survivors vomiting and stumbling from the constant artillery barrage, the order came from Kyiv for them to withdraw. Under cover of night they retreated to the river, crossing at dawn in rubber dinghies hauled across with ropes to the Ukrainian-held bank on the other side.
Seeing their retreat, the abandoned dog that had shared their collapsing trenches waded into the river and began swimming, leaving the city of Severodonetsk undefended to the Russian forces closing in.
“The losses we took were massive — thousands,” said Vitaly, a veteran sniper who fought on the Severodonetsk front lines for the whole two months the battle lasted. His battalion alone lost half its men.
Severodonetsk was, depending on your view, either a brilliant military manoeuvre, tying down thousands of Russian troops in pitched battle and exacting from them a brutally heavy cost for every metre of Ukrainian territory they stole. It may, as Vortex believes, have saved another more strategically critical front in the south, where Ukrainian forces are edging forward in their attempt to break the Russian Black Sea corridor, denying Moscow the chance to reinforce there.
Or it was a reckless expenditure of Ukrainian lives for territory indefensible against such massive Russian firepower, one that raises questions about which side will first become exhausted in what is fast become a grinding artillery war of attrition.
The eastern Donbas region is where Moscow set its sights after its humiliating early failure to seize Kyiv, retreating in early April to concentrate its forces on what the Kremlin called the war’s “absolute priority”.
Russian artillery battalions moved along with their separatist proxies to conquer the remaining Ukrainian-held parts of Luhansk and Donetsk, which President Putindeclared as independent republics in the days leading up to the invasion.
Severodonetsk, from where Ukraine administered what was left in their hands of Luhansk, would always have carried totemic significance for either side, even before President Zelensky tied the battle to the fate of the entire Donbas region, saying its future would be decided there.
The heroic battle of a small number of isolated and outgunned troops to hold it was, Zelensky argued, both evidence of Ukraine’s fighting spirit and of its desperate need for more sophisticated western multiple rocket launch systems capable of taking out Russian artillery. As the first of those, American-supplied Himars (high mobility artillery rocket system) arrived in Donbas last week, the order came to abandon Severodonetsk and retreat across the river to the high ground of its twin city of Lysychansk, now Ukraine’s last toehold in the whole of Luhansk.
Vortex believes the city could have been saved if only the weapons had arrived before. “Just three days earlier and we could have held Severdonetsk,” he said. By the time he arrived in there “it was a wasteland. The Russians destroyed Severodonetsk, there was no city there any more.” In frustration, a fellow commander bellowed down his radio: “I don’t need reinforcements, I need buildings to fight from.” Even the forest around it had been stripped of cover by the relentless Russian shelling.
Vitaly believes the battle was a costly performance. “It was a political point to hold it, it was no longer defensible,” he said with the bubbling frustration of a man sent to fight artillery with a precision rifle.
Fighting there, he argued, wasted time better spent digging defensive positions on the opposite bank in Lysychansk where the Ukrainians benefit from higher ground. A general who argued for an earlier retreat to defend the city was rotated off the battlefield, he said, with disgust.
By the time they got there, the Russians had already manoeuvred to starting encircling Lysychansk, threatening to engulf the last corner of Luhansk and bolster their assault on the rest of Donetsk.
The situation in Lysychansk is “absolute hell”, Vitaly said. “For every shell we fire, the Russians fire 20.” The only civilians that remain are those too stubbornly old, sick or poor to leave despite the exhortations of rescuers. In Kramatorsk, from where what remains of Luhansk and Donetsk are administered, civilians wounded by shelling arrived daily.
At Kramatorsk’s main hospital this week, medics loaded up an emergency truck with bandaged survivors for the journey with International Red Cross escorts to an evacuation train leaving from the town of Pokrovsk.
They including the 11 survivors of the shelling of a communal standpipe in Lysychansk where eight people died fetching water for their cut-off homes.
Tetiana Ignatchenko, a war correspondent who covered most of the previous eight-year low-level separatist conflict in the Donbas, now works for the administration here, helping people to evacuate.
From her vantage point she has a grim overview of battlefield losses, which Ukrainian officials recently estimated at 100 to 200 soldiers a day. “There are no official numbers but we have our own count,” she said. “We see the bodies come through.”
She doubts Lysychansk, and thus Luhansk, can now be saved, leaving the Russians to move on to Donetsk, along the road that runs from the river city on the hill to the rapidly emptying town of Bakhmut, dominated by soldiers on runs from the front line to repair vehicles and pick up food. “Bakhmut is next,” Ignatchenko said. “You can see what is happening, we’ve nearly lost all of Luhansk. Everything depends on what weapons now arrive from the West.”
Vortex, resting in Dnipro preparing for deployment to the next front line, does not regret the doomed defence of Severodonetsk. “We engaged a huge number of Russian forces and it meant they could not be used in another place like the south,” he said.
Ukraine’s conflict is a tale of two fronts; the grinding war in the east where land is slowly ceded to Russia at a high price to both, and the counteroffensive in the south where Ukrainian forces are starting to push back the occupying forces, seeking to break the corridor Russia has established along the coast.
Vitaly, gulping down a shwarma at Bakhmut’s Joker Street Food kiosk, is more circumspect about what lies ahead. He and his men travelled here from Lysychansk by the long road, the parallel route to Bakhmut now under heavy Russian shelling.
Ukrainian artillery pieces thunder along the road all day, firing and being repositioned in a game of cat and mouse to dodge destruction by Russian targeting. “We are already retreating our positions within Lysychansk,” he said. “I do not know if we can hold it.” Himars could help turn the tide if they can take out enough Russian artillery positions but it is still a race against time, he said. “The Russians are shelling harder than ever to try and take the Himars out,” he said. “When we used to get ten missiles, now we get a hundred.”
Further up the long road, Sasha a territorial defence commander, rests with his men at a village south of Siversk. He, too, is keenly watching the battle for Lysychansk. “If it goes, then so does Siversk and so does this road,” he said. Then the capture of the cauldron will be complete and they will fall back further into Donetsk. Zelensky wants the war finished by Christmas and told Nato so at its summit this week, asking for more support to end the war in what seems to many outside like an optimistically short time frame. “So long?” Sasha said wearily. “I would like it to end now.
Yesterday we got the perspective on the current status from the FSB via Girkin. Today, we get the GRU perspective via GRU Officer "journalist" Alexander Sladkov
THIS DAY IN DONETSK WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST DAYS IN RECENT TIME.
Why heavy? Will explain. shelling. Again and again unanswered shelling. Well, someone “in the know” can say: “Sasha, yes, the enemy is reconnoitering our firepower with such provocative shelling!”
And I would answer him: “What the hell are you talking about!?!?!? The city is smashed to pieces all day, and in response we only have six Grad rockets and that's it ?! And that is not there!!! Great Russia is being shelled, but we are silent.
I dined with two professional gunners today. I'd rather not ask them my questions! When will the changes be here, near Donetsk? They tell me to be patient. But this is not just shelling, they can be tolerated, but this is humiliation!
Why do we all have to endure humiliation here? There is no need to blame everything on the "unsurpassed" performance characteristics of imported weapons, everything is the same with us! And we are present in space, and the military-industrial complex is working.
Why is all this happening again unanswered?
THIS DAY IN DONETSK WAS ONE OF THE HARDEST DAYS IN RECENT TIME.
Why heavy? Will explain. shelling. Again and again unanswered shelling. Well, someone “in the know” can say: “Sasha, yes, the enemy is reconnoitering our firepower with such provocative shelling!”
And I would answer him: “What the hell are you talking about!?!?!? The city is smashed to pieces all day, and in response we only have six Grad rockets and that's it ?! And that is not there!!! Great Russia is being shelled, but we are silent.
I dined with two professional gunners today. I'd rather not ask them my questions! When will the changes be here, near Donetsk? They tell me to be patient. But this is not just shelling, they can be tolerated, but this is humiliation!
Why do we all have to endure humiliation here? There is no need to blame everything on the "unsurpassed" performance characteristics of imported weapons, everything is the same with us! And we are present in space, and the military-industrial complex is working.
Why is all this happening again unanswered?
This thread used to be filled with people saying that Russia was losing, and that it was a good idea to give Zelensky $40B.
I wonder where all those people went???
I wonder where all those people went???
Quote those people.
y’all messy Them folks don’t give a fuck about Ukraine like that anymore
I think once that shit happened at the borders, the thoughts of many here shifted towards “fuck all of them over there”
Then again i could be completely wrong
'Alaska Is Ours!' Billboards Appear in Russia After Threat to Reclaim State
One day after a Russian official suggested they could "take back" the state, multiple billboards spotted in Krasnoyarsk, Russia, proclaimed, "Alaska Is Ours!"
www.newsweek.com
Ultra Nationalist reacts to HIMARS and the leadership.
…Already now insider legends are being invented and spread that we don’t want to win this war quickly. As if it’s all great. The longer the army fights, the better financing it will be getting, and in general we have “queues at the enlistment offices”…
Even if someone in Russia in a patriotic impulse goes to take a queue at the enlistment office, there will be no point in that.
Do you know why?
They did it. You won’t believe it, but they did it. It was hard, but you are amazing leaders after all, I’m impressed by you, Russian highest military and civilian command. This was so difficult – to recreate the situation close to 1913, but you prayed for the “sacred 1913”, you worked for it tirelessly, and you got it. You were saying in 2005 that ahead of us are rallies with thousands of people with blurred boundaries of political beliefs of the participants, who will all want one thing – to imprison the state thieves. You did not believe, you laughed. You got yourself a copy of 1913 with all kinds of social tensions, but with the TSAR, yes.
And here our military command took up the challenge. Our military can’t be satisfied with a second place at the mental disability contest. They took up the challenge, and they DID IT. They achieved the shell hunger. It’s impossible, unbelievable, but these fantastic people did the impossible – they f*cked up everything.
In Krasyni Luch, there are two large groups of warehouses, the “dynamite warehouse” and the warehouse for the pyrotechnic plant in Petrovskoye – two places specifically designed for storing explosives, with all the safety measures. All artillery ammunitions brought into the city were put into one convenient pile, close to the railway station. And everything went up in the air from one hit, destroying nearby streets. At least you managed to pull trains away from the station.
And next on the list are Snezhnoye and other less known places, and the many hours of explosions I’ve heard with my own ears. Now it is not the Ukrainian army that has the shell hunger, which was predicted by media-prostitute Shurygyn, but now we have shell hunger. It’s a second one – we just switched from the deficit 122mm to 152mm caliber, and now again.
You won’t convince your soldiers that you are such idiots. That you are such idiots that you believed our idiotic propaganda that UAF has no rockets left to reach the warehouse. Such idiots that you decided “Well, they won’t do that again, probably” and continued piling the ammunitions.
“Betrayal of the generals” – it is not another rumour “out of many”, it’s a fact of the societal opinion. The most dangerous opinion, opinion of the people who are fighting this war with weapons in their arms. Opinion of the same people to whom the “advisors” sent from Russia during the Minsk agreements were telling that “I have an acquaintance serving there, I believe him like myself, he wrote to me that it’s you starting it all first!”.
And for those who are once again outraged about the exchange of “Azovtsi”, I have very bad news for you. You, citizens, are crying about the wrong thing. It’s not the exchangers who are crap, but the whole state machine is crap, it doesn’t understand what it got into, and it doesn’t want to understand it. And for Russia and Russians in the end to survive, a generation of Russian men will have to not part with an assault rifle, a helmet and armour for many years.
kenigtiger.livejournal.com
…Already now insider legends are being invented and spread that we don’t want to win this war quickly. As if it’s all great. The longer the army fights, the better financing it will be getting, and in general we have “queues at the enlistment offices”…
Even if someone in Russia in a patriotic impulse goes to take a queue at the enlistment office, there will be no point in that.
Do you know why?
They did it. You won’t believe it, but they did it. It was hard, but you are amazing leaders after all, I’m impressed by you, Russian highest military and civilian command. This was so difficult – to recreate the situation close to 1913, but you prayed for the “sacred 1913”, you worked for it tirelessly, and you got it. You were saying in 2005 that ahead of us are rallies with thousands of people with blurred boundaries of political beliefs of the participants, who will all want one thing – to imprison the state thieves. You did not believe, you laughed. You got yourself a copy of 1913 with all kinds of social tensions, but with the TSAR, yes.
And here our military command took up the challenge. Our military can’t be satisfied with a second place at the mental disability contest. They took up the challenge, and they DID IT. They achieved the shell hunger. It’s impossible, unbelievable, but these fantastic people did the impossible – they f*cked up everything.
In Krasyni Luch, there are two large groups of warehouses, the “dynamite warehouse” and the warehouse for the pyrotechnic plant in Petrovskoye – two places specifically designed for storing explosives, with all the safety measures. All artillery ammunitions brought into the city were put into one convenient pile, close to the railway station. And everything went up in the air from one hit, destroying nearby streets. At least you managed to pull trains away from the station.
And next on the list are Snezhnoye and other less known places, and the many hours of explosions I’ve heard with my own ears. Now it is not the Ukrainian army that has the shell hunger, which was predicted by media-prostitute Shurygyn, but now we have shell hunger. It’s a second one – we just switched from the deficit 122mm to 152mm caliber, and now again.
You won’t convince your soldiers that you are such idiots. That you are such idiots that you believed our idiotic propaganda that UAF has no rockets left to reach the warehouse. Such idiots that you decided “Well, they won’t do that again, probably” and continued piling the ammunitions.
“Betrayal of the generals” – it is not another rumour “out of many”, it’s a fact of the societal opinion. The most dangerous opinion, opinion of the people who are fighting this war with weapons in their arms. Opinion of the same people to whom the “advisors” sent from Russia during the Minsk agreements were telling that “I have an acquaintance serving there, I believe him like myself, he wrote to me that it’s you starting it all first!”.
And for those who are once again outraged about the exchange of “Azovtsi”, I have very bad news for you. You, citizens, are crying about the wrong thing. It’s not the exchangers who are crap, but the whole state machine is crap, it doesn’t understand what it got into, and it doesn’t want to understand it. And for Russia and Russians in the end to survive, a generation of Russian men will have to not part with an assault rifle, a helmet and armour for many years.
Бойцовый кот Мурз's Journal
kenigtiger.livejournal.com
Few things that
1. president z had to remind his crew he’s the leader and no one gives order but him
2. the local birds in Russia luv the former McDonalds buns
3. The battle of LizzeChance and Severaldonets was rough on Ukraine fighters
4. Putin told West, Fuck y’all come get some
5.Germany continue at begging Canada
6. seem like Finland and Sweden fucked Turkey
7. Turkey playing with Ukraine feelings…
1. president z had to remind his crew he’s the leader and no one gives order but him
2. the local birds in Russia luv the former McDonalds buns
3. The battle of LizzeChance and Severaldonets was rough on Ukraine fighters
4. Putin told West, Fuck y’all come get some
5.Germany continue at begging Canada
6. seem like Finland and Sweden fucked Turkey
7. Turkey playing with Ukraine feelings…
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Tokayev has been letting his nuts hang recently because the writing is on the wall. He told Putin to his face he didn't recognize the LNR/DNR and now this:
Ukraine left CIS in '18 and Georgia in '08.
Don't forget this from yesterday:
www.euractiv.com
or this
Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev on Thursday told his government to diversify its oil supply routes, a day after a Russian court ordered the Caspian Pipeline Consortium to suspend activity for 30 days.
A halt to the pipeline, which carries oil from Kazakhstan's vast Tengiz Field across Russia to the Black Sea, would strain the oil market just as it faces one of the worst supply crunches since the Arab oil embargo in the 1970s.
www.reuters.com
What is Russia going to do, close the terminal indefinitely through the courts? Invade?
Ukraine left CIS in '18 and Georgia in '08.
Don't forget this from yesterday:
Russia shuts down terminal after Kazakhstan offers to send more oil to the EU
A Russian court closed a key oil terminal for the export of Kazakh oil on 6 July, two days after the President of Kazakhstan told Council President Charles Michel that his country is ready to send more oil to the EU.
www.euractiv.com
or this
Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev on Thursday told his government to diversify its oil supply routes, a day after a Russian court ordered the Caspian Pipeline Consortium to suspend activity for 30 days.
A halt to the pipeline, which carries oil from Kazakhstan's vast Tengiz Field across Russia to the Black Sea, would strain the oil market just as it faces one of the worst supply crunches since the Arab oil embargo in the 1970s.
After Russian move on pipeline, Kazakhstan says it needs other routes
Kazakh President Kassym-Jomart Tokayev on Thursday told his government to diversify its oil supply routes, a day after a Russian court ordered the Caspian Pipeline Consortium to suspend activity for 30 days.
What is Russia going to do, close the terminal indefinitely through the courts? Invade?
The last few days the Ukranians have been using HIMARS to destroy depots in the occupied territories like this
The reactions from all of the russian ultra nationalists have been what you would expect.
t.me
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The reactions from all of the russian ultra nationalists have been what you would expect.
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Tell the truth @babygwirl18. Either people here said, "that Russia was losing, and that it was a good idea to give Zelensky $40B", or they didn't.