Blacks Not Supporting Mayweather

I agree but I want to add this.

I just got through watching the Pavlik v. Espino fight and it was all white faces in the audience. The fight took place in Pavlik's hometown and that got me thinking about the element of this that really wasn't talked about... Nationalism.

We've talked about race but for the most part (outside of black fighters), you see some people give boxers support based on race and nationality. I've heard Kelly Pavlik hyped as an All American fighter, but you will never hear an American black/latino/etc. mentioned like that.

I think our racial pride becomes such an issue for us because we are hated in our home country. We don't get supported by our home country like white people get supported... or other races get support by their countries. I can't think of another group, short of the Jews, that had this issue close to the level black people have had it. The main difference between us and Jews, is that we were brain washed into hating ourselves (and of course most of them can hide their race if they wanted to).

Anyways, I try to support the best fighters, but I'm extra proud when a black person is the best.

Shut the fuck up faggot. You fuckin weak ass uncle tom. :hmm:
 
Shut the fuck up faggot. You fuckin weak ass uncle tom. :hmm:

I'm an uncle tom.. can you explain? Is the because I view America as a makeshift home that we had to make after slavery, and still don't get supported as Americans.

This is from a clown saying that we need to give up on black people because we are hopeless.
 
when mayweather comes up in here talking about supporting me on some stuff then i'll give a fuk about him winning or losing. till then :dunno:
 
when mayweather comes up in here talking about supporting me on some stuff then i'll give a fuk about him winning or losing. till then :dunno:

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Peace,

I was all ready to get on here and ridicule this Youtube kid ("pierced eyebrow-assed muhfucka") or whatever. Turns out, I actually agree with a lot of the things he had to say. We don't support our own forcefully enough. We laugh at each other when we fail. I'm not about to advocate black group think, but I do believe that many of us go against the grain because we think that disagreeing with the community consensus is somehow noble. Too many of us covet being thought of as "different" from other blacks at the expense of all-too-needed solidarity.

Peace.

c/s because they want to be seen as different/not black/safe. Mean while every other race/ethic groups by far supports their own. Too many black folks think they are going to save/change the world. Change starts at home. Black folks are not respected because we don't respect ourselves.
 
I'm an uncle tom.. can you explain? Is the because I view America as a makeshift home that we had to make after slavery, and still don't get supported as Americans.

This is from a clown saying that we need to give up on black people because we are hopeless.

Shut up you fucking fag, just put me on ignore. Black people aren't ever gonna change, the truth hurts you fucking piece of shit. Instead of getting mad at a nigga who speaks of reality to your dumb ass, do something about it, instead talking reckless bullshit. Stupid pot head niggas like you are the main reason shit is fucked up. Stop buying whitey's bullshit. Quit thinking you could actually be racist when the world hates you. Thats like calling a Nerd violent for fighting back, after bullies have been jumping him all year.
 
c/s because they want to be seen as different/not black/safe. Mean while every other race/ethic groups by far supports their own. Too many black folks think they are going to save/change the world. Change starts at home. Black folks are not respected because we don't respect ourselves.

Be careful people might get mad when you tell the truth
 
Shut up you fucking fag, just put me on ignore. Black people aren't ever gonna change, the truth hurts you fucking piece of shit. Instead of getting mad at a nigga who speaks of reality to your dumb ass, do something about it, instead talking reckless bullshit. Stupid pot head niggas like you are the main reason shit is fucked up. Stop buying whitey's bullshit. Quit thinking you could actually be racist when the world hates you. Thats like calling a Nerd violent for fighting back, after bullies have been jumping him all year.

haha:lol::lol::lol: this nigga is all over the place. I never said anything about blacks being racist.:confused:

If you want to know my opinion on that you could of asked. You might be thinking about white supremacy instead of racism by the way.
 
I'm still laughing that people here have cosigned that dumb ass, sakem. lol, funny ass bgol ish. however the young dude in the video made some valid points, but he is also very young. At least he is at least trying to be rational. He needs about ten more years of harsh life for him to have a better grasp of life.
 
haha:lol::lol::lol: this nigga is all over the place. I never said anything about blacks being racist.:confused:

If you want to know my opinion on that you could of asked. You might be thinking about white supremacy instead of racism by the way.

your major mistake was saying "thinking" and speaking about sakem is the same thought. dude is about as dumb as a rock. racist and white supremacy are two totally different things. Anyone can be racist just as anyone can be sexist or homophobic. Damn even a black person can be white supremacist. How can that be? Easy, all they have to do is either intellectually, spiritually, or economically intentional try to demean a minority in order to further stereotypes or other propaganda that allow white supremacist to thrive. Most white supremacist love ultramilitant brothers, cause they say "what is so different about them than us" they don't want brothers that actually utilize reason in situations. Hence why bgol probably is a breeding ground for those fools. they come in and cosign dudes like sakem that say stupid ass shit, cause they know it is no different than how they feel.
 
shit, he has a point. Black people don't support each other. Self-hatred is a motherfucker boy:smh:

it depends what you mean. does hoping pbf wins against manny fit the criteria of supporting your people. honestly if it does then your bar is set freaking low. now if it is telling younger cats the importance of education and knowing how to play the game. giving info on how to save money and purchase a house. then I would say you are wrong again. I see way more love than hatred. Sure when you get on the internet dudes probably show more of themselves on it. but the self hatred is mostly contained to how they view themselves and not a group of people. If that makes anysense. their self worth is more the issue than their views about their own people. Hence why they say the n-word. It is more about how they view themselves tan others.
 
racist and white supremacy are two totally different things. Anyone can be racist just as anyone can be sexist or homophobic. Damn even a black person can be white supremacist. How can that be? Easy, all they have to do is either intellectually, spiritually, or economically intentional try to demean a minority in order to further stereotypes or other propaganda that allow white supremacist to thrive. Most white supremacist love ultramilitant brothers, cause they say "what is so different about them than us" they don't want brothers that actually utilize reason in situations. Hence why bgol probably is a breeding ground for those fools. they come in and cosign dudes like sakem that say stupid ass shit, cause they know it is no different than how they feel.

I will say this about what Sakem said... When Non-whites are racist it is a reactionary action. Racism is a tool created by white supremacy. It was an effective tool that not only divided whites and non white but it divided non white races within themselves. White supremacy is now institutionalized in most societies because of this.

The disagreement I have with your statement is this even if a black man hated every race, but white people.... there is not he could do short of killing himself that would make him a white supremacist. Even if he believes in his confused mind, that he is white or that he wants to be as close to whites as possible... he would still be benefiting a black man (himself).
 
Dude In That Video Is Cleary GAY!!!!!!!!!!!... come on BGOL. PBF is go whoop his ass nuff said :yes:
 
Black people can't be racist. They can be retaliatory, but not racist. Everyone hates black people. If black people choose to defend themselves that isn't racism. It's only racism to a simpleton sell-out like yourself

Yo you dumb as shit. Another arm chair revolutionary that ain't qualified to speak on half of the shit he speak on. I don't even know why you're still here. I'm surprised you got niggas cosigning. Did you not see the definition of racism clearly posted in my post? Where did I say self defense is racist? Black people can be and have been retaliatory. The Civil Rights movement was black folk standing up for their rights. There's no debating that. But they can still be racist. My granddad came up in that shit and he hates white folk. Can't say I blame him but let's not act like he ain't racist. He's just as racist now as them white folk were when he came up. There's nothing similar between racism and retaliation. Some become racist as a form of retaliation but they're still racist.

You're a victim of self hate. Everyone hates black folk, including you.You running around this thread on some "We're finished," and "We're the only race that..." FOH. We in bad shape but niggas like you ain't helping.
 
The point is, every other minority can find unity no matter what. Some latinos are bad but not like blacks. If you don't like my beliefs on black unity then put me on ignore. If you think black people can be "racist", throw me on ignore. We should be able to be unified like everyone else, but we can't. That's sad. We should be able to have basic unity. Whitey's got a hold on a lot of the sell-outs who just opposed me in this thread. Keep in mind, whitey doesn't give a fuck about you, and neither do filipinos, you sucka-ass, bootlickin, sodomized bitches. If you hate black unity throw me on ignore, and shut the fuck up.

Races/people ain't monolithic entities. It was some white folk in the Civil Rights movement. It was some white quakers that housed Harriet Tubman. Germans attempted to assassinate Hitler. Albert Einstein, the father of modern physics as well as a German, opposed the Nazi regime. Some Saudis opposed Sadaam. Some Cubans opposed Castro. So WTF do you mean every other minority can find unity? Self hate rears it's ugly head again. And you running around talking about whitey got a hold on niggas. Irony much?

Besides my nigga, why are you looking for "basic unity" in a boxing thread? It's a fucking boxing match. You worried about the wrong shit. It ain't the revolution.
 
Maybe he should stop throwing money around and talking about what he owns, when black unemployment is more than 10% :hmm:
 
Peace,

I was all ready to get on here and ridicule this Youtube kid ("pierced eyebrow-assed muhfucka") or whatever. Turns out, I actually agree with a lot of the things he had to say. We don't support our own forcefully enough. We laugh at each other when we fail. I'm not about to advocate black group think, but I do believe that many of us go against the grain because we think that disagreeing with the community consensus is somehow noble. Too many of us covet being thought of as "different" from other blacks at the expense of all-too-needed solidarity.

Peace.


Yes indeed. :yes:
I agree but I want to add this.

I just got through watching the Pavlik v. Espino fight and it was all white faces in the audience. The fight took place in Pavlik's hometown and that got me thinking about the element of this that really wasn't talked about... Nationalism.

We've talked about race but for the most part (outside of black fighters), you see some people give boxers support based on race and nationality. I've heard Kelly Pavlik hyped as an All American fighter, but you will never hear an American black/latino/etc. mentioned like that.

I think our racial pride becomes such an issue for us because we are hated in our home country. We don't get supported by our home country like white people get supported... or other races get support by their countries. I can't think of another group, short of the Jews, that had this issue close to the level black people have had it. The main difference between us and Jews, is that we were brain washed into hating ourselves (and of course most of them can hide their race if they wanted to).

Anyways, I try to support the best fighters, but I'm extra proud when a black person is the best.


I had typed up a long post about nationalism in boxing but didn't send it because it wasn't as coherent as I wanted. But what you said here is real close.
 
I will say this about what Sakem said... When Non-whites are racist it is a reactionary action. Racism is a tool created by white supremacy. It was an effective tool that not only divided whites and non white but it divided non white races within themselves. White supremacy is now institutionalized in most societies because of this.

The disagreement I have with your statement is this even if a black man hated every race, but white people.... there is not he could do short of killing himself that would make him a white supremacist. Even if he believes in his confused mind, that he is white or that he wants to be as close to whites as possible... he would still be benefiting a black man (himself).

Exactly.
I keep trying to jump back in but Alaska keeps getting my points and saying them better than I would have.

Yo you dumb as shit. Another arm chair revolutionary that ain't qualified to speak on half of the shit he speak on. I don't even know why you're still here. I'm surprised you got niggas cosigning. Did you not see the definition of racism clearly posted in my post? Where did I say self defense is racist? Black people can be and have been retaliatory. The Civil Rights movement was black folk standing up for their rights. There's no debating that. But they can still be racist. My granddad came up in that shit and he hates white folk. Can't say I blame him but let's not act like he ain't racist. He's just as racist now as them white folk were when he came up. There's nothing similar between racism and retaliation. Some become racist as a form of retaliation but they're still racist.

You're a victim of self hate. Everyone hates black folk, including you.You running around this thread on some "We're finished," and "We're the only race that..." FOH. We in bad shape but niggas like you ain't helping.


This is Sakem's problem,right here. He's exhibiting a Black inferiority complex and his type of nihilism is just as destructive to Black folks as White supremacy.
 
Fuck Mayweather and fuck the faggots that think blacks are obligated to support that bitch.
 
So if Blacks should root for Blacks for the sake of the race, then by this logic, it's ok for whites to always root for whites. If this is the case, then Obama would have never had a shot to win. You can't have it both ways. In life, your integrity is based on consistency.
 
So if Blacks should root for Blacks for the sake of the race, then by this logic, it's ok for whites to always root for whites. If this is the case, then Obama would have never had a shot to win. You can't have it both ways. In life, your integrity is based on consistency.

dude... you're using logic.. chill his head might explode. :smh:
 
it depends what you mean. does hoping pbf wins against manny fit the criteria of supporting your people. honestly if it does then your bar is set freaking low. now if it is telling younger cats the importance of education and knowing how to play the game. giving info on how to save money and purchase a house. then I would say you are wrong again. I see way more love than hatred. Sure when you get on the internet dudes probably show more of themselves on it. but the self hatred is mostly contained to how they view themselves and not a group of people. If that makes anysense. their self worth is more the issue than their views about their own people. Hence why they say the n-word. It is more about how they view themselves tan others.

Truth brother
 
Yo you dumb as shit. Another arm chair revolutionary that ain't qualified to speak on half of the shit he speak on. I don't even know why you're still here. I'm surprised you got niggas cosigning. Did you not see the definition of racism clearly posted in my post? Where did I say self defense is racist? Black people can be and have been retaliatory. The Civil Rights movement was black folk standing up for their rights. There's no debating that. But they can still be racist. My granddad came up in that shit and he hates white folk. Can't say I blame him but let's not act like he ain't racist. He's just as racist now as them white folk were when he came up. There's nothing similar between racism and retaliation. Some become racist as a form of retaliation but they're still racist.

You're a victim of self hate. Everyone hates black folk, including you.You running around this thread on some "We're finished," and "We're the only race that..." FOH. We in bad shape but niggas like you ain't helping.

c/s...

you don't even have to use the black v. white dynamic to show how black people can be racist. Blacks v. latinos/asians/etc. or vice versa are perfect examples were white people aren't even directly involved. Of course we are taught our racist views towards different races from white people mainly.

About SaKem... The sad part is that dude doesn't even realize his bull shit.
 
So if Blacks should root for Blacks for the sake of the race, then by this logic, it's ok for whites to always root for whites. If this is the case, then Obama would have never had a shot to win. You can't have it both ways. In life, your integrity is based on consistency.


Most whites, Spanish, etc.... do root for/support their own.Obama won by a high turnout of blacks and others. Other races did vote for him but the majority of whites voted for McCain. Had he been running against someone other white candidate. Then outcome may have been different.
 
Most whites, Spanish, etc.... do root for/support their own.Obama won by a high turnout of blacks and others. Other races did vote for him but the majority of whites voted for McCain. Had he been running against someone other white candidate. Then outcome may have been different.

point remains that if whites did not vote for him..... he would never have won.
 
point remains that if whites did not vote for him..... he would never have won.

The bigger points is that most racial and ethic groups will always be for their own. While a small percent will not. Black are in the majority when it comes to not supporting their own. It hasn't done us any good. If you look at the history of when we had to support our own. We were much better off than we are now.
 
The bigger points is that most racial and ethic groups will always be for their own. While a small percent will not. Black are in the majority when it comes to not supporting their own. It hasn't done us any good. If you look at the history of when we had to support our own. We were much better off than we are now.

Tell that shit to all those Cubans shitting on Castro in Florida and all the Mexicans that were talking about Oscar isn't a true Mexican Champion because he wasn't born in Mexico.

Don't get it twisted though, most of the time they are on the same shit we are on.... It's like sibling rivalry. I can talk all this big shit about my own, but as soon as a cracker (or anyone else outside the group) comes out their mouth talking reckless, I have to check them.
 

another beatch azz 15 day member not making any sense, but tryin hard as fuk to be heard.

u oughta be ashamed of yourself to be so into another man as to search and study long forgotten posts. you commit to memory sheit i dun forgot about posting. your type of man crush should be outlawed
 
The bigger points is that most racial and ethic groups will always be for their own. While a small percent will not. Black are in the majority when it comes to not supporting their own. It hasn't done us any good. If you look at the history of when we had to support our own. We were much better off than we are now.

I totally disagree with you on this one. Most intelligent people throw their support behind a concept or conviction not a race. Like universal healthcare, pollution, abortion, or whatever. We are rarely asked to support a race. Life is bigger than this false notion of how we differentiate ourselves from each other based on skin color. Hell what you call a black person is not the same another person calls black.
 
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