Black Lawmakers Rethink Clinton Support

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Black Lawmakers Rethink Clinton Support


Feb 14, 6:32 PM (ET)

By DAVID ESPO




WASHINGTON (AP) - In a fresh sign of trouble for Hillary Rodham Clinton, one of the former first lady's congressional black supporters intends to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention, and a second, more prominent lawmaker is openly discussing a possible switch.

Rep. David Scott's defection and Rep. John Lewis' remarks highlight one of the challenges confronting Clinton in a campaign that pits a black man against a woman for a nomination that historically has been the exclusive property of white men.

"You've got to represent the wishes of your constituency," Scott said in an interview Wednesday in the Capitol. "My proper position would be to vote the wishes of my constituents." The third-term lawmaker represents a district that gave more than 80 percent of its vote to Obama in the Feb. 5 Georgia primary.

Lewis, whose Atlanta-area district voted 3-to-1 for Obama, said he is not ready to abandon his backing for the former first lady. But several associates said the nationally known civil rights figure has become increasingly torn about his early endorsement of Clinton. They spoke on condition of anonymity, citing private conversations.


In an interview, Lewis likened Obama to Robert F. Kennedy in his ability to generate campaign excitement, and left open the possibility he might swing behind the Illinois senator. "It could (happen). There's no question about it. It could happen with a lot of people ... we can count and we see the clock," he said.

Clinton's recent string of eight primary and caucus defeats coincides with an evident shift in momentum in the contest for support from party officials who will attend the convention. The former first lady still holds a sizable lead among the roughly 800 so-called superdelegates, who are chosen outside the primary and caucus system.

But Christine Samuels, until this week a Clinton superdelegate from New Jersey, said during the day she is now supporting Obama.

Two other superdelegates, Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania and Nancy Larson of Minnesota, are uncommitted, having dropped their earlier endorsements of Clinton.

On Wednesday, David Wilhelm, a longtime ally of the Clintons who had been neutral in the presidential race, endorsed Obama.


The comments by Scott and Lewis reflect pressure on Clinton's black supporters, particularly elected officials, not to stand in the way of what is plainly the best chance in history to have an African-American president.

"Nobody could see this" in advance, Rep. Jim Clyburn of South Carolina, the highest-ranking black in Congress, said of Obama's emergence. He is officially neutral in the race, but expressed his irritation earlier in the year with remarks that Clinton and her husband the former president had made about civil rights history.

One black supporter of Clinton, Rep. Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri, said he remains committed to her. "There's nothing going on right now that would cause me to" change, he said.

He said any suggestion that elected leaders should follow their voters "raises the age old political question. Are we elected to monitor where our constituents are ... or are we to use our best judgment to do what's in the best interests of our constituents."

In an interview, Cleaver offered a glimpse of private conversations.


He said Rep. Jesse Jackson Jr. of Illinois had recently asked him "if it comes down to the last day and you're the only superdelegate. ... Do you want to go down in history as the one to prevent a black from winning the White House?

"I told him I'd think about it," Cleaver concluded.

Jackson, an Obama supporter, confirmed the conversation, and said the dilemma may pose a career risk for some black politicians. "Many of these guys have offered their support to Mrs. Clinton, but Obama has won their districts. So you wake up without the carpet under your feet. You might find some young primary challenger placing you in a difficult position" in the future, he added.

Obama and Clinton are in a competitive race for convention delegates. Overall, he has 1,276 in The Associated Press count, and she has 1,219. It takes 2,025 to clinch the nomination.

But the overall totals mask two distinct trends.

Obama has won 1,112 delegates in primaries and caucuses, and Clinton has won 978 in the same contests in the AP count.

The former first lady leads in the superdelegate chase, 241-164.

Not surprisingly, two sides differ on the proper role of the superdelegates.

"My strong belief is that if we end up with the most states and the most pledged delegates, and the most voters in the country, then it would be problematic for political insiders to overturn the judgment of the voters," Obama said recently.

But Clinton said superdelegates should make up their own minds. She noted pointedly that Massachusetts Sens. John Kerry and Edward Kennedy have both endorsed Obama, yet she won the state handily on Feb. 5.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California, who is neutral in the race, said she hopes one or the other of the rivals emerges as the clear winner through the primaries and caucuses.

"I don't think it was ever intended that superdelegates would overturn the verdict, the decision of the American people," she said Thursday.
 
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Clinton Supporter John Lewis Has Second Thoughts

By Anne E. Kornblut
Confusion erupted Thursday night amid reports that a prominent African American supporter of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's had changed his mind. Georgia Rep. John Lewis, who is also a Democratic superdelegate, was reported by the New York Times as having decided to switch his superdelegate vote from Clinton to Sen. Barack Obama after Lewis's district, around Atlanta, went for the Illinois senator.

But the Clinton campaign reported having no word from Lewis on the subject, and a spokeswoman for Lewis, Brenda Jones, said the Times story and a similar one by the Associated Press, saying he was contemplating such a switch, were inaccurate. Both the Times and AP stories quoted Lewis directly after speaking with him; he was not available for comment later Thursday. The Obama campaign also said that Lewis and Obama had not talked recently about a change of heart.

"It is plain there is a lot of enthusiasm for Barack Obama," Jones said. But, she said, "those things are observations," not statements of preference. She said Lewis has left the option of changing his superdelegate support for Clinton on the table, but made no decisions. Still, it is clear that Lewis has had misgivings about the Clinton campaign in recent weeks, especially after the racially charged campaign in South Carolina, during which former Pres. Bill Clinton was perceived to have made racially insensitive comments.

Another black superdelegate from Georgia, Rep David Scott, was also reported by the A.P. as having said he would switch from Clinton to Obama; a call to his chief of staff went unreturned Thursday night.
 
Good article Counselor.

Several years ago, I was involved in a case on the plaintiffs side and one of the lead lawyers, a democrat, was running for governor. We had just completed oral arguments in opposition to defendants motion to dismiss and were walking the four blocks from the courthouse to the office where we would debrief and do some discovery planning.

I mentioned to the gubernatorial candidate that it would be interesting if Black voters, typically democratic voters, voted republican in the primaries (called "Crossover" voting) for the weaker GOP candidate which, if he won, might present an easier candidate for him in the general election, should he (the lawyer/democrat/gubernatorial candidate) win the Democratic nomination.

I had toyed with discussing the theory with him for some time. Anyone with blinders on knew, and still knows, that Blacks, especially in the South, tend to vote democratic like a knee-jerk reflex. I wanted to know what white people really felt about our loyalty; and I also wanted to know, without "them" knowing what I was up to, what "they" would think of Black voters acting more independently. Hence, I posed the question: what if, Blacks crossed-over and voted on the Republican side of the primary, instead of the Democratic side, since he was virtually assured of the democratic nomination anyway.

Sometimes, one has to remember to keep under control the emotions/temper when there is genuine learning to be had.

The response to my question went thusly: "Why? Why would you want to teach a democratic bloc about cross-over voting? They already vote democratic, why take a chance?"

I know, somebody is saying, WTF does what I just said have to do with the topic of this thread. Lots.

I've said before and I'll say it again, Bill Clinton committed a serious blunder coming into South Carolina. Just as Black voters tend to vote with the familiar, the democrats, they also have an equally strong tendency to vote for the familiar, the ones (people and family) they know and have established voting-relationships with, in this case, the Clintons. Therefore, had Billy and Hilly simply went about their white little ways campaigning, shaking hands, kissing babies and cultivating their already deep roots in our community, much more of the community in South Carolina might have, because of familiarity, remained loyal to the Clintons.

But that wasn't to be. Ole Bob Johnson opened his f'n mouth. LOL. And, Billy couldn't resist. Perhaps he panicked, who knows. Coming into South Carolina the Clintons' had just about a full deck, but they played the one card that they should have and could have burned and placed on the bottom of the deck never to be dealt or pulled in South Carolina. We know the result and the Barack has been building steam in the Black community at a much greater clip than he had ever before, and I'm loving it! Couple that with the ever increasing white male support (who too dislike women and the Clintons) and we see a chance at history.

Bill did what the gubernatorial candidate warned against: He showed em. He showed em that Black voters do not have to be tied to the familiar (he and his wife), and we've been learning the lesson ever since that Clinton debacle in South Carolina.

I just hope we build upon the lesson and gain more sophistication with our vote. Maybe then neither major party will look at our vote as knee-jerk democrat.

Let the bidding begin.


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Assosiated Press
Saturday, February 23, 2008

WASHINGTON - The Democratic superdelegates are starting to follow the voters — straight to Barack Obama.

In just the past two weeks, more than two dozen of them have climbed aboard his presidential campaign, according to a survey by The Associated Press. At the same time, Hillary Rodham Clinton's are beginning to jump ship, abandoning her for Obama or deciding they now are undecided.

The result: He's narrowing her once-commanding lead among these "superdelegates," the Democratic office holders and party officials who automatically attend the national convention and can vote for whomever they choose.

As Obama has reeled off 11 straight primary victories, some of the superdelegates are having second — or third — thoughts about their public commitments.

Take John Perez, a Californian who first endorsed John Edwards and then backed Clinton. Now, he says, he is undecided.

"Given where the race is at right now, I think it's very important for us to play a role around bringing the party together around the candidate that people have chosen, as opposed to advocating for our own choice," he said in an interview.

Clinton still leads among superdelegates 241 to 181, according to the AP survey. But her total is down two in the past two weeks, while Obama's is up 25.

Since the primaries started, at least three Clinton superdelegates have switched to Obama, including Rep. David Scott of Georgia, who changed his endorsement after Obama won 80 percent of the primary vote in Scott's district. At least two other Clinton backers have switched to undecided.

None of Obama's have publicly strayed, according to the AP tally.

Candidates reach out
There are nearly 800 Democratic superdelegates, making them an important force in a nomination race as close as this one. Both campaigns are furiously lobbying them.

"Holy buckets!" exclaimed Audra Ostergard of Nebraska. "Michelle Obama and I are playing phone tag."

Billi Gosh, a Vermont superdelegate who backs Clinton, got a phone call from the candidate herself this week.

"As superdelegates, we have the opportunity to change our mind, so she's just connecting with me," Gosh said. "I couldn't believe she was able to fit in calls like that to her incredibly busy schedule."

In Utah, two Clinton superdelegates said they continue to support the New York senator — for now.

"We'll see what happens," said Karen Hale. Likewise, fellow superdelegate Helen Langan said, "We'll see."

Other supporters are more steadfast.

"She's still in the race, isn't she? So I'm still supporting her," said Belinda Biafore, a superdelegate from West Virginia.

Obama has piled up the most victories in primaries and caucuses, giving him the overall lead in delegates, 1,362 to 1,266.5. Clinton's half delegate came from the global primary sponsored by the Democrats Abroad.

It will take 2,025 delegates to secure the nomination at this summer's national convention in Denver. If Clinton and Obama continue to split delegates in elections, neither will reach the mark without support from the superdelegates.

Proper role debated
That has the campaigns fighting over the proper role for superdelegates, who can support any candidate they want. Obama argues it would be unfair for them to go against the outcome of the primaries and caucuses.

"I think it is important, given how hard Senator Clinton and I have been working, that these primaries and caucuses count for something," Obama said during Thursday night's debate in Austin, Texas.

Clinton argues that superdelegates should exercise independent judgment.

"These are the rules that are followed, and you know, I think that it will sort itself out," she said during the debate. "We will have a nominee, and we will have a unified Democratic Party, and we will go on to victory in November."

Behind the scenes, things can get sticky.

David Cicilline, the mayor of Providence, R.I., indicated this week that his support for Clinton might be wavering after — he contended — members of her campaign urged him to cave to the demands of a local firefighters union ahead of her weekend appearance there. The firefighters, in a long-running contract dispute with Cicilline, have said they would disrupt any Clinton event the mayor attends. A Clinton spokeswoman said the campaign would never interfere in the mayor's city decisions.

Obama has been helped by recent endorsements from several labor unions, including the Teamsters on Wednesday.

"He's our guWy," said Sonny Nardi, an Ohio superdelegate and the president of Teamsters Local 416 in Cleveland.

Waiting on Oprah
The Democratic Party has named about 720 of its 795 superdelegates. The remainder will be chosen at state party conventions in the spring. AP reporters have interviewed 95 percent of the named delegates, with the most recent round of interviews taking place this week.

The superdelegates make up about a fifth of the overall delegates. As Democratic senators, both Clinton and Obama are superdelegates.

So is Cincinnati Mayor Mark Mallory, which is one reason his phone rings often.

He is a black mayor, and Obama has been winning about 90 percent of black votes. His state has a March 4 primary with 141 delegates at stake. The Democratic governor, Ted Strickland, is stumping hard for Clinton — and perhaps a spot on the national ticket.

A phone call from former President Clinton interrupted Mallory's dinner on a recent Saturday.

"I continue to get calls from mayors, congresspeople, governors, urging me one way or another," said Mallory, who is still mulling his decision. "The celebrities will be next. I guess Oprah will call me."

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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Good article Counselor.

Several years ago, I was involved in a case on the plaintiffs side and one of the lead lawyers, a democrat, was running for governor. We had just completed oral arguments in opposition to defendants motion to dismiss and were walking the four blocks from the courthouse to the office where we would debrief and do some discovery planning.

I mentioned to the gubernatorial candidate that it would be interesting if Black voters, typically democratic voters, voted republican in the primaries (called "Crossover" voting) for the weaker GOP candidate which, if he won, might present an easier candidate for him in the general election, should he (the lawyer/democrat/gubernatorial candidate) win the Democratic nomination...

Sorry I'm late on this. But I'm glad I did recheck this thread. I think you are on to something here, because I think that this election has rocked the Black perception of reality as much as it has the white perception. Thanks for the comment.

I'd like to share with you what a colleague of ours said to me the other day [he might be a poster here] that summed up one aspect of this election quite well. He said:

"I used to look at white folks and wonder whether they were calling me a n****r behind my back, now I look at them and wonder whether they are voting for Obama".

As you say, it's a new political world for Black America.
 
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Associated Press
February 28, 2008


WASHINGTON -- Civil rights leader John Lewis dropped his support for Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential bid Wednesday in favor of Barack Obama.

Lewis, a Democratic congressman from Atlanta, is the most prominent black leader to defect from Clinton's campaign in the face of near-unanimous black support for Obama in recent voting. He also is a superdelegate who gets a vote at this summer's national convention in Denver.

In a written statement, Lewis said the Illinois senator's campaign "represents the beginning of a new movement in American political history" and that he wants "to be on the side of the people."

"After taking some time for serious reflection on this issue, I have decided that when I cast my vote as a superdelegate at the Democratic convention, it is my duty . . . to express the will of the people," the statement said.


Lewis' endorsement had been a coveted prize thanks to his standing as one of the most prominent civil rights leaders of the 1960s.

"John Lewis is an American hero and a giant of the civil rights movement, and I am deeply honored to have his support," Obama said in a statement.

Clinton was questioned about Lewis during an interview with Houston television station KTRK on Wednesday.

"I understand he's been under tremendous pressure," the New York senator said. "He's been my friend. He will always be my friend. At the end of the day it's not about who is supporting us, it's about what we're presenting, what our positions are, what our experiences and qualifications are, and I think that voters are going to decide."


Lewis' announcement came on the same day as another superdelegate, Sen. Byron L. Dorgan of North Dakota, endorsed Obama, citing the presidential hopeful's record on trade.

Dorgan said Obama has supported key trade issues.


"He and I feel the same way," Dorgan said. "We both believe in trade and plenty of it. We just insist it that it be fair to our country -- the rules be fair."

The North American Free Trade Agreement is unpopular with blue-collar workers whose votes are considered crucial in the Democratic primary Tuesday in Ohio.

Lewis announced his Clinton endorsement in October and has appeared on the New York senator's behalf on television and at events across the country.

At one point in the campaign, Lewis accused Obama supporters of trying to fan the flames of race against Clinton.

Clinton has frequently cited Lewis' support in trying to establish her credentials among minority voters, saying she saw her campaign as a continuation of his work.

But Lewis came under intense pressure to get behind Obama after his constituents supported the Illinois senator roughly 3 to 1 in Georgia's Feb. 5 primary, as did about 90% of black voters statewide, according to exit polls.

Obama's support among black voters nationwide mirrors Lewis' Georgia district.

His change of heart follows a similar move by Rep. David Scott, a black Democrat who represents a neighboring district.


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The decision also comes a week after the Rev. Markel Hutchins, a young Atlanta minister, announced he would challenge Lewis in the Democratic congressional primary this summer.

Hutchins, 30, has seized on Lewis' reversal in his presidential endorsement as evidence that the 68-year-old congressman is out of touch with his constituents.

"Today's announcement by Representative Lewis was clearly prompted by political expediency," Hutchins said Wednesday. "It is time for a change. It is time to send somebody to Congress who is actually willing to represent the district."​

This month, Lewis' office disputed media reports that he said he would switch candidates, or was at least reconsidering. But until Wednesday, the congressman had refused to answer questions clarifying his position.

Lewis said Wednesday afternoon that he had called former President Clinton and Sen. Clinton but had not reached them to tell them of his decision.



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