Birth of A Nation’s Box Office Flop and The Unrepentant Pettiness of Black Feminists. (good read)

It does serve to point out how supposed organizations and "movements" that technically could fly under a certain banner and cause are really about superficial and petty purposes.
I really am starting to hate that "wokeness" term. Absolutely pretentious word; as is owning Isaac Hayes discography and taking a sister - or according to that article, a cac - to your prom implies you "figured it all out". It's like Spielberg doing the color purple, you may question the messenger- but the MESSAGE absolutely needed to get out.

:yes: Yessir :yes:
Agree with you. but i don't remember anyone boycotting spielberg's color purple.
 
I believe for many Black people men and women it is difficult to separate the personal life of the individual from their art. We all pick and choose whom we like to support for various reasons. There are many on this board who HATE R-Kelly and say they will never listen to his music and have not in damn near two decade behind allegations of statutory rape. So we should not feign suprise, shock or disgust when Black people choose not to support a Black artist whom offer themselves up as an actor-vist and stated publicaly that their art is an extension of their activism but whom they choose as a mate is not an extension of that same activism. I have said on this board several times whom we court, date and marry should be an extension of our socio-economic and political views. If you are for the decolonization and liberation of the Black Mind and Body but choose a non Black mate It makes sense that some Black folk will have a problem with that. I seen the same thing happen with Heather Headley, a brilliant actress and even better singer. Dropped that amazing song and video for "HE IS" and Black folk loved her, ran out and bought her CD, but as soon as it was made public that her HE was a white dude it was over for her and she never recovered from that thus she is back on Broadway acting.

With that said, I supported the movie seen it and admonished others to go see it via social media. I don't give a damn abou the rape charges or the dead CAC whom accused him. However for brother to have been accused of rape by a white woman and then to continue dating white women and even marrying one makes his behavior seems pathological and self hating. I wish Black folk could see past him for the sake of this movie being about Nat Turner but if they boycotted other shit he did i would not give a damn or have a problem with it.


You need to send this to the writer...very very well written.
 
It does serve to point out how supposed organizations and "movements" that technically could fly under a certain banner and cause are really about superficial and petty purposes.
I really am starting to hate that "wokeness" term. Absolutely pretentious word; as is owning Isaac Hayes discography and taking a sister - or according to that article, a cac - to your prom implies you "figured it all out". It's like Spielberg doing the color purple, you may question the messenger- but the MESSAGE absolutely needed to get out.

:yes: Yessir :yes:

Understood

at the time many were not comfortable with Spielberg doing that movie...and were vocal about it.

Power of Oprah, Whoppi and Spielberg.

And if he didn't make that movie it NEVER would have been done.
 
I believe for many Black people men and women it is difficult to separate the personal life of the individual from their art. We all pick and choose whom we like to support for various reasons. There are many on this board who HATE R-Kelly and say they will never listen to his music and have not in damn near two decade behind allegations of statutory rape. So we should not feign suprise, shock or disgust when Black people choose not to support a Black artist whom offer themselves up as an actor-vist and stated publicaly that their art is an extension of their activism but whom they choose as a mate is not an extension of that same activism. I have said on this board several times whom we court, date and marry should be an extension of our socio-economic and political views. If you are for the decolonization and liberation of the Black Mind and Body but choose a non Black mate It makes sense that some Black folk will have a problem with that. I seen the same thing happen with Heather Headley, a brilliant actress and even better singer. Dropped that amazing song and video for "HE IS" and Black folk loved her, ran out and bought her CD, but as soon as it was made public that her HE was a white dude it was over for her and she never recovered from that thus she is back on Broadway acting.

With that said, I supported the movie seen it and admonished others to go see it via social media. I don't give a damn abou the rape charges or the dead CAC whom accused him. However for brother to have been accused of rape by a white woman and then to continue dating white women and even marrying one makes his behavior seems pathological and self hating. I wish Black folk could see past him for the sake of this movie being about Nat Turner but if they boycotted other shit he did i would not give a damn or have a problem with it.
Dope. I give a damn about a rapist raping someone. I don't give a damn that it was a white. I do give a damn that it's rape. Rapist often don't stop. They don't get it out of their system. You don't rape a white woman and then consciousness stops them from raping a black one. To me he's a rapist set free out into the world and any woman that's around him needs to watch out. How i see it. You don't accidently rape someone. You don't be hanging around your boy...he comes thru and rapes a girl and you're like i didn't do it. So i get off scott free. You can ignore that if YOU want too. I can't.
 
Black feminists are white supremacy foot soldiers. They have a common enemy, black men.
If you take their beliefs and put it on paper you will find that it sounds exactly like a racist white male...

1- The both believe the white man is superior or better than the black man..
2- They believe its ok for the races to fuck, just as long as it is a white male with a beautiful/smart/obedient black woman.. Any black male touching a precious white woman gets put on blast...
3- If an acceptable mixed couple were to have kids, the child is to raised white and identify as white..
4-There is to be no references or mention about the white man and racism...


Think about it, both of their narratives is attacking Black men while protecting the Whites, this is why they hate the birth of the nation while look a the move the color purple, a movie about a black man abusing and sexually assaulting Black women during an era where it was legal for white men to assault, rape and even kill Black women..
That would be like me making a movie about a Jewish serial killer who went around killing only jews, in Germany during the Nazi uprising and having the movie be praised as great!!!
 
She tells the truth about these black feminist.
The bullying and hypocrisy is real.

I'm starting to see more black women like the author wake up to these dysfunctional behaviors exhibited by feminist black women.
There was another black women who wrote a critical piece it was pretty controversial too.
I won't post it here tho because I don't want to stir no shit any further but if you can find it more power to you lol.

Their wielding an enormous amount of power irresponsibly. Yet remain hidden behind victimhood status.
You can't be critical of them or point out the bad apples without being labeled a misogynist.
Black men are impotent to deal with it so it has to come from a black woman if anything is gonna get through.
 
She tells the truth about these black feminist.
The bullying and hypocrisy is real.

I'm starting to see more black women like the author wake up to these dysfunctional behaviors exhibited by feminist black women.
There was another black women who wrote a critical piece it was pretty controversial too.
I won't post it here tho because I don't want to stir no shit any further but if you can find it more power to you lol.

Their wielding an enormous amount of power irresponsibly. Yet remain hidden behind victimhood status.
You can't be critical of them or point out the bad apples without being labeled a misogynist.
Black men are impotent to deal with it so it has to come from a black woman if anything is gonna get through.

Go head and post that shit fam,

The bitches are always gonna bitch regardless.

*two cents *
 
What's crazy with all of this controversy, Nat Turner is one of my favorite historical figures.
Some people young and old never heard of Nat Turner.
It's a shame these incidents has to be applied towards this historic icon.

Hopefully some people can look beyond the film makers controversy and
do some research on Mr. Turner, Denmark Vesey, Gabriel Prosser, Paul Cuffe,
Charles Deslondes
and others who led the fight.

 
I may have this all wrong but my take away is...

She is indicting and condemning these so called social media feminists and social media activists

Who are destroying the perception of the REAL people in the struggle.

That they are way to vocal and are dangerous to their respective causes and black people as a whole.
 
Go head and post that shit fam,

The bitches are always gonna bitch regardless.

*two cents *
Man I'd have to have an alternate screen name to post it. lol

I found out about the shit on twitter because all the feminist on there lit ol'girl up.
 
First off black feminists were not the cause of BON s flop. Otherwise Tyler Perry wouldn't make 25mill average.

Nate dating white women and being accused of rape may have effected it a little but give or take 5mil.

The reason BON failed is because we might finally be "slaveried" out.

Roots. Reeboot.

Free state of Jones. Flop.

Etc etc etc.

With the exception of the last 15mins nothing separated BON from being just another slave movie.

Timing made this movie a failure.
 
Birth of A Nation’s Box Office Flop and The Unrepentant Pettiness of Black Feminists.

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I’ve decided to write this because I felt that it was much more conducive to do than a social media rant.

It’s Sunday, October 9th, 2016 7:02 pm and I just want to start this by saying that at this point, I’m over social media, and I’m over the cyber mafia known as “Black Feminism”.

I‘m to the point where if I even see another black woman with “feminist” in her bio, I assume that she’s petty and that I should not associate with her publicly or privately.

If you haven’t seen/read the news already, Birth of A Nation has flopped in the box office and we have black feminism, which is just fancy cyber vernacular for “I hate black men because I always choose the wrong types of black men to entertain” and their male minions to thank.

This is pretty unfortunate to say, as a woman, especially in the world we live in where there is much negative stigma attached to being a black woman and being a black woman myself.

When I first was introduced to black feminism as teenager and through social media, I was expecting sisterhood, I’m not sure what kind, but that’s what I was expecting. To my disappointment, “black feminism” was mostly a degree “toting” (pun intended), shea butter product selling, “cis-hetero” black men loathing, gay black man loving, promiscuity endorsing, white man dating, shade throwing, mention mobbing mafia, that occasionally makes great points concerning the mistreatment and the overall conditions of black women that they refer to as “misogynoir”.

If I hadn’t of witnessed this for years prior, I’d just may have been on the Nate Parker hate bandwagon but I did so I’m not and no, this is not saying he’s not guilty.

Anyhow, let’s rewind time back to when this drama kicked off…

I remember in early August of this year, scrolling down my Facebook feed and seeing many clickbait style viral articles about Nate Parker having a white wife from black catered gossip bloggers and sites.

Sidenote: If we are to celebrate any heterosexual black man’s success on social media he must be “CB4 blackity black” but not so much he’s considered Hotep, he must also be married to a black woman, even if you’ve posted on social media about “getting a Caucasian John when Jerome doesn’t work out to avoid stress, poverty and headache”, he must also be a simp, a male feminist, in proud support of black transgendered women, encourage prostitution, now formally known as sex work and move to the beat of the perverse Black Feminist drum.
Examples of the articles aforementioned:

Article #1: Twitter Just Found Out Nate Parker Has A White Wife, Now Questioning His Wokeness. Originally published by Bossip.


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Article Highlights: “Nate Parker gained a gazillion Black points when he set out to create the rebel slave Nat Turner’s biopic, A Birth Of A Nation.

But now that Twitter is finding out that he has a white wife, he is losing those points” — Posted at 1:39 AM on August 6, 2016 — By Bossip Staff

Sidenote: The fact that this article was published at 1:39 AM is just petty within itself. Anyhow…
Article #2:

Mixed Twitter Reactions (Some Old & Some Newer)





This tweet points out an interesting flip from a tweeter when she found out he was married to a white woman. At first he was “gorrrrrrrrrrrrrl” fine and then…not so much.

Sidenote: Social media has singlehandedly become the reasons I barely take compliments serious anymore.

For more tweets just click here for the official Twitter search.

Fast forward: After a slew of gossip sites published the information about his wife being white, about 10 days later, the cyber attack then moved up to the Black Feminist academia who write for mainstream media publications such as The Atlantic, Teen Vogue, Huff Post, TIME (who’ve they’ve begged for inclusion btw) and others and the next thing you know, the accusations of homophobia were birthed and information as well as legal documentation about his former rape case came up.

Sidenote: This is what bored black women on the internet who don’t like you do by the way.They can find your address, who your baby father’s great-great grandfather is and what plantation he was on, validate your college degrees, find out how many evictions you have, your previous jail mugshots, pay $19.99 to Intelius for access to your private records etc,
After the “Black Girl Goodfellas” aka Black feminists added the more gasoline to the fire, upset that their “gworrrrrl he so fine” contender was married to a “Becky With The Good Hair” and apparently saying some questionable things about they gay men that they love more than themselves,white journalists had began to “surf the hate wave”, which gave them 100x more credibility because of the reputations of these larger platforms.(Also because they’re white platforms and, as you should know white people are always more credible.)

Sidenote: That was sarcasm. (-_-)
Example Articles:

This particular article, published via Ebony, was the straw that broke the camel’s back. The tone of his responses in this interview didn’t sit too well with the BG GoodFellas/Black feminists. It went on to go viral and spun off via white media.


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Via The Daily Beast


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Via Variety


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Then this OP-ED article from LA Times with Gabrielle Union, a black woman and star in the film gave the BG Goodfellas/Black Feminist, the remainder of the ammunition that they needed.


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Now lets fast forward a little more,

I found this very interesting discussion on the IMDb forums (read full thread here)…


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User IboChild on August 25th astutelynotes that72.4% of the votes were either 1 or 10 prior to the commercial release of the film, majority being clearly negative due to its now 5.4/10 rating from 3,462 users. ( The film was just released two days ago on Friday October 7th)

It wasn’t enough for both black women oriented and white media platforms to have a field day with “propaganda pieces” disguised as think pieces with rumors and a former court case, they decided to head over to the Internet Movie Database “knuck if you buck” together and plunge the ratings BEFORE the film’s release.

Petty.

Petty.

Petty.

Am I defending Nate Parker? Some will say yes, but I’d say no. What I’m trying to convey here is the dangers of social media when you’re black, productive and visible in general and how our communal general consensus is solely based upon likability.

The moment you’re disliked as a black person in the social media era, you’re as good as dead. We tend do everything in our power to tear down the most capable within our race and then we cry and protest for justice because after the best, creative and brightest have been condemned, mobbed against or assassinated we’re left with the weakest links, a bunch of people who may just have gotten a degree but their real life skills are usually limited to writing gossip articles, shade filled social media rants, holding aimless protests and shea butter lip balm making, these are not real world skills and none of these has ever or is going to push any culture forward.

I wouldn’t have wrote this article if I felt we like in place of Nate Parker, we’d have many others more able and other black directors, creatives and makers getting spotlight and recognition, that we supported beyond tweets, and articles. (Take Queen of Katwe’s flop for example despite all the social media “love” for Lupita Nyongo,or Solange’s so called #1 album that sold 42,000 copies first week, that was very masterful btw,while her sister Beyonce went platinum the very first weekend of her release, the difference? having the “support” of the great hype vehicle aka the black community vs having the support of the actual money train aka white people.)

We rarely support anything beyond lip service and this is my #1 issue. I honestly feel as though the people who rallied to boycott this film would have bootlegged it anyways, Thus behooving me to ask, why the hell are we so mad to begin with? Pretentious outrage much?

Sidenote: We are lip service specialists. This is usually the main reason why we cannot progress forward without white people. Lot’s of talk but little to no massive action unless we can destroy someone or something.

As a Recap + My Main Issues:

  • I am not defending Nate Parker as a rapist, homophobe just simply pointing out how destructive, petty and pretentious fellow black women can be online. I’ve seen this happen plenty of times but I’m using Nate Parker to prove my point because this situation provides the most proof + angles to do so.
  • The fact it took white media to give the film the platform and promotion it initially gained, is also a problem in itself not to mention that he sold his rights away for just $17 million when we have many black millionaires which shows me that as a race, we just might not make it anyways, always having to beg or need white people. $17 million will produce another low budget film at it’s finest and is not much in the grand scheme of things.
  • The quick flip and switch, and the fact that people went to start digging into this man’s life because he was “gworrrrrll fine” only to be disappointed and channel a tornado ill-will towards him because his wife wasn’t black is another issue especially since 6/10 of them have white boyfriends or husbands.
  • The hypocrisy with shading the white woman he’s married to but caring so much about him raping one.
  • The fact that this media assassination didn’t start with genuine concern for him being a rapist but black women’s typical and infallible jealousy.
  • This is probably the last black revolutionary film that will ever go mainstream because now, it has proven to not be profitable and worth the investment (Example: Danny Glover’s Haitian Revolution film he couldn’t get the proper funding for and if he does, they’ll probably find some dirt on him too). For those of us who do like action, we’ll now be stuck with the black soap operas, movies and about swirling and other media that appeals to feminists.
It would be one thing if we destroyed to rebuild but, all we do is destroy and social media amplifies this cycle, especially with black women.

And to Black women…

We are petty, we are insecure, we are destructive, we have more social and political power than our male counterparts than we’d like to acknowledge and we need to use it better.

And if you think that I’m being paranoid or a just “trying to put my sistas down”…now “they’re” mad that the guy that plays Luke Cage has a white wife after a week of fanaticism and “gworrrrllll he fine” also…

LOL.


Black radical feminists are just a different breed, imo. They could really be doing some serious educating on black women’s issues, literature, art, history etc but being cyber bullies, petty and nonsensical online instead.

With that being said, I’m so grateful, I can’t relate to wanting men to want me so bad and going on a jealous rampages to ruin their lives and careers because I’m not wanted…despite there being billions of them walking the planet.

P.S. If it doesn’t apply, let It fly.

Fee,

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I HOPE THEY'LL RALLY AROUND AGAINST EVERY ROMAN POLANSKI AND EVERY JEWISH-GAY-FAGGOT-YOUNG-BOY-MOLESTING-YOUNG-HOLLYWEIRD-CASTING-COUCH-RAPING-DIRECTOR TOO.. I WONT HOLD MY BREATH

THIS SISTA IS A QUEEN TO THE 100TH DEGREE! HE ETHERED ALL THESE "FEMINAZI"
QUOTE OF THE YEAR NOMINATION!
:cheers:

*two cents *
 
I may have this all wrong but my take away is...

She is indicting and condemning these so called social media feminists and social media activists

Who are destroying the perception of the REAL people in the struggle.

That they are way to vocal and are dangerous to their respective causes and black people as a whole.

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What I got from it is that bitter chicks are bitter because their pretty but not pretty "enough"-very attractive women are given the world and no one gives a fuck what an ugly woman thinks about anything, 5's ,6's, and 7's are in a trick bag however- to attract the attention of the men they really want outside of random dick and bubble gum sessions so they project that anger out into their environment because the notion that the preverted* grrrrrl power movement they've been indoctrinated with may have ultimately sold them a bad bill of goods may be to much to bare.

They're hurt so and they want to hurt others, ultimately the black men who were suppose to choose them....simply because they said so.

*Perverted as in the grrrl power movement has ecouraged women to be empowered in every way except being accountable and responsibile for one's actions.

*two cents *
 
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First off black feminists were not the cause of BON s flop. Otherwise Tyler Perry wouldn't make 25mill average.

Nate dating white women and being accused of rape may have effected it a little but give or take 5mil.

The reason BON failed is because we might finally be "slaveried" out.

Roots. Reeboot.

Free state of Jones. Flop.

Etc etc etc.

With the exception of the last 15mins nothing separated BON from being just another slave movie.

Timing made this movie a failure.

Ok put your producer hat on, the studio buys this at Sundance the backlash happens and they drop this on your desk...

Jay Dade u got 8 weeks to make this movie a commercial success...

What do u do? How do u market and promote this, when where amd how do u release it? How do you work with parker? Tell me YOUR gameplan?
 
She tells the truth about these black feminist.
The bullying and hypocrisy is real.

I'm starting to see more black women like the author wake up to these dysfunctional behaviors exhibited by feminist black women.
There was another black women who wrote a critical piece it was pretty controversial too.
I won't post it here tho because I don't want to stir no shit any further but if you can find it more power to you lol.

Their wielding an enormous amount of power irresponsibly. Yet remain hidden behind victimhood status.
You can't be critical of them or point out the bad apples without being labeled a misogynist.
Black men are impotent to deal with it so it has to come from a black woman if anything is gonna get through.

Co-sign 100%.

I read this woman's article and know VERY well the women she's talking about, my twitter timeline is FILLED with some of the same women she's come across I'm sure. It's pretty fucking disgusting, but you BETTER not tell them that!
 
I wish people would devote as much time in trying to go see it or at least buying tickets as they do talking about it flopping

Nobody uses their powers for good.
They worked tirelessly to make sure this shit didn't make it big in the box office.
But aren't putting the same energy into things that might actually enact change.
Cause the white people they work for, won't even allow them to
and they don't even see it.
 
First off black feminists were not the cause of BON s flop. Otherwise Tyler Perry wouldn't make 25mill average.

Nate dating white women and being accused of rape may have effected it a little but give or take 5mil.

The reason BON failed is because we might finally be "slaveried" out.

Roots. Reeboot.

Free state of Jones. Flop.

Etc etc etc.

With the exception of the last 15mins nothing separated BON from being just another slave movie.

Timing made this movie a failure.

Some truth to this among other things but I think the negative press BONs been getting about the rape has ultimately sapped momentum of film.

But I still don't know how successful a film like this was supposed to be to not be considered a flop. To me a flop is any movie that spends an exorbant amount of money to make and doesn't break even.
 
Ok put your producer hat on, the studio buys this at Sundance the backlash happens and they drop this on your desk...

Jay Dade u got 8 weeks to make this movie a commercial success...

What do u do? How do u market and promote this, when where amd how do u release it? How do you work with parker? Tell me YOUR gameplan?


Prolly pushed it back and wait till it get Oscar Buzz all over it.

Maybe have it ready to buy/ download same time as theatrical release.
 
Co-sign 100%.

I read this woman's article and know VERY well the women she's talking about, my twitter timeline is FILLED with some of the same women she's come across I'm sure. It's pretty fucking disgusting, but you BETTER not tell them that!

Yeah I follow some of them too. At first I thought they were funny then they started retweeting some crazy shit and talking some mo shit until I noticed in their bios they all got this #feminist or #blackfeminist hashtag. Petty is the right word for them.

I go at them on some shit but they either don't reply to me or block me lol I had my Twitter locked up a few times behind them.

I've learned they are a scared bunch. Twitter and other social media allows other people to be less reserved about how they respond to their bullshit but they can't stand it when you voice your opinion. They'll send every black feminist tweeter at you. Feminista Jones is one of them.
 
Some people, whether they actually saw the film or not, could not wait for it's release to go on social media and bash it :dunno:

Yeah I follow some of them too. At first I thought they were funny then they started retweeting some crazy shit and talking some mo shit until I noticed in their bios they all got this #feminist or #blackfeminist hashtag. Petty is the right word for them.

I go at them on some shit but they either don't reply to me or block me lol I had my Twitter locked up a few times behind them.

I've learned they are a scared bunch. Twitter and other social media allows other people to be less reserved about how they respond to their bullshit but they can't stand it when you voice your opinion. They'll send every black feminist tweeter at you. Feminista Jones is one of them.


I'm sure you probably saw Yesha Callahan going at people's necks, including Roland Martin for not having one, after she made a post shitting on the film and someone called her out.

Dawg, Feminista Jones is the QUEEN of RT'ing bullshit and putting a spin on it and having her minions blow up your mentions... Her and her sidekick Trudy. I've never really mixed it up with any of the twitter feminists, entering into a back and forth is pointless and will change neither of our minds, so when I started noticing those hashtags in the bios I had to hit the "unfollow" button. The pack mentality and dumb ass "yassssss drag him queen!" RT's on bullshit emotional and out of context tweets get boring after a while.
 
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Some people, whether they actually saw the film or not, could not wait for it's release to go on social media and bash it :dunno:

That's the point nobody is mentioning and why these reviews were hit pieces already decided

a film as bad as they say it is, does not win those awards at the film festival and does not get bought for 17 million by fox of all places.
Not a fucking film about Nat Turner.
Period.
 
That's the point nobody is mentioning and why these reviews were hit pieces already decided

a film as bad as they say it is, does not win those awards at the film festival and does not get bought for 17 million by fox of all places.
Not a fucking film about Nat Turner.
Period.


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Fucking TOUCHDOWN!
 
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