Barack Obama's Senate voting record.

Now I posted this before the debate. I honestly believe that the supporters of both campaigns visit this board for real strategy against each others camps.

The only way your guy has a fighting chance is that he becomes very clear on facts.

Obama has failed to vote on many issues and he balances his votes after resolutions that has passed and that makes him either uninformed on the bill or just lazy.

I believe its probably a little of both.

1. Declaring English the National Language.
2. He splits his vote on Illegal immigrants.
3. He is bi-partial to abortion thus continueing the barberic practice of murder that is government sanctioned.
4. He choose not to vote on many of the farmers issues. He was absent for many of the voting sessions.
5. Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants
6. Iraq Withdrawal Amendment
7. Military Funding and Tax Cuts Amendment
8. He just have too many NV's on serious voting matters
I just skimmed the list.

Now I want to be very clear that I would love to see an African American in the Oval Office, however Obama is just not ready. just look at the facts
 
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I told you guys months ago that these asshole were here on BGOL. What person with serious interest in the black cause would use Ronald Reagan as their avatar.

You know the deal put him on your ignore list!

Son, just because Ronald Reagan is an Icon to Americans don't mean that the issues don't still exist. You can ignore all you want, but without the Reagan democrat, Obama doesn't have a chance.
Instead of invoking your right to not participate in ideologies that are above your head, maybe you should stick around, listen and learn my friend.



Wootten Hathaway
 
Now I posted this before the debate. I honestly believe that the supporters of both campaigns visit this board for real strategy against each others camps.

The only way your guy has a fighting chance is that he becomes very clear on facts.

Obama has failed to vote on many issues and he balances his votes after resolutions has passed and that makes him either uninformed on the bill or just lazy.

I believe its probably a little of both.

1. He didn't vote to make English the official language.
2. He splits his vote on Illegal immigrants.
3. He is bi-partial to abortion thus continueing the barberic practice of murder that is government sanctioned.
4. He choose not to vote on many of the farmers issues. He was absent for many of the voting sessions.

I just skimmed the list.

Now I want to be very clear that I would love to see an African American in the Oval Office, however Obama is just not ready. just look at the facts

I don't want to waste time going back and forth with your argument but you should also post the back story and context for these votes in question. When these people are in the senate each vote is done for a strategic reason nobody just goes up there and says yay or nay on a whim. You aren't properly presenting this information which i find real questionable on your part. Also you should find a good many of his votes match up with the other candidates so the question of voting records becomes almost silly but you clearly knew this already before you started sowing seeds of "F.U.D."(fear uncertainty doubt) :smh:

If you think "he" is not ready based on his voting record, nobody on that panel is ready to be president based on voting records, because they all voted the same way.

You lost alot of credibility with this argument and to top it off you skimmed the list which lends to the fact you didn't do your own research before you made these statements . You want to prove something special put everybody's list up there and show how they differ. Any asshole can cherry pick somebody's voting record and make any argument they want, just like faggots can cherry pick verses from the bible to say butt munching swine is ok with God. it still doesn't make it so. Before you go any further with this silly argument stand back and look at the big picture dude.
 
How Would You Like To Be the Clinton's Friend?

The following is a list of dead people connected with the Clintons:

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

Vince Foster - Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock's Rose Law Firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled suicide. He also had another 22 gunshot wound in the neck. The gunshot wound to the head was of larger caliber and found still in his hand!!

Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death, Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors.

C. Victor Raiser II & Montgomery Raiser - Major players in the Clinton fund-raising organization. Died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton's a "Dear friend and trusted advisor".

Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in Virginia of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people containing names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson. Died in May 1994. She was found dead in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide although there were several packed suitcases, as if she was going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co- defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the gravesite of his fiancee.

Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton friend Dan Lassater. Died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor. One of Clinton's last duties as Governor of Arkansas was to pardon Dan Lassater convicted on over a hundred drug charges.

Florence Martin - Accountant sub-contractor for the CIA related to the Barry Seal Mena Airport drug smuggling case. Died of three gunshot wounds.

Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

Paula Grober - Clinton's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one-car accident.

Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparent suicide in the middle of his investigation.

Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington D.C. apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. Was investigating Morgan Guarantee scandal.

Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash. Dr.

Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee. Died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton's advisory council, personally treated Clinton's mother, stepfather and brother.

Barry Seal - Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Clinton in the trunk of a car left in his repair shop. Died when his car hit a utility pole.

Stanley Huggins - Suicide. Investigated Madison Guarantee. His report was never released.

Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser. Died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. Controversial case where initial report of death was due to falling asleep on railroad track. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING SIX PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES / HENRY CASE:

Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck July, 1988.

Keith McMaskle - Died of 113 stabbed wounds, November 1988.

Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

James Milan - Found decapitated. Coroner ruled death due to natural causes.

Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

Richard Winters - Was a suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. Was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.



THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

Major William S. Barkley Jr.
Captain Scott J. Reynolds
Sgt. Brian Hanley
Sgt. Tim Sabel
Major General William Robertson
Col. William Densberger
Col. Robert Kelly
Spec. Gary Rhodes
Steve Willis
Robert Williams
Conway LeBleu
Todd McKeehan
Now what does this prove besides there were an awful lot of depressed and unlucky plane riding people associated with Clinton. This has nothing to do with Hillary seeing who her experience in politics has nothing to do with her husband....(Comment is purely sarcasm not to be taken seriously)
 
I don't want to waste time going back and forth with your argument but you should also post the back story and context for these votes in question. When these people are in the senate each vote is done for a strategic reason nobody just goes up there and says yay or nay on a whim. You aren't properly presenting this information which i find real questionable on your part. Also you should find a good many of his votes match up with the other candidates so the question of voting records becomes almost silly but you clearly knew this already before you started sowing seeds of "F.U.D."(fear uncertainty doubt) :smh:

If you think "he" is not ready based on his voting record, nobody on that panel is ready to be president based on voting records, because they all voted the same way.

You lost alot of credibility with this argument and to top it off you skimmed the list which lends to the fact you didn't do your own research before you made these statements . You want to prove something special put everybody's list up there and show how they differ. Any asshole can cherry pick somebody's voting record and make any argument they want, just like faggots can cherry pick verses from the bible to say butt munching swine is ok with God. it still doesn't make it so. Before you go any further with this silly argument stand back and look at the big picture dude.

My, that was a lot to swallow my friend. I don't want you to waste time either going back and forth. Thats not productive either.

The reason I posted Obama's senate voting record, was because a lot of members of this board see his candidacy as way to get a Black guy in the Oval Office at any cost.

Whats missing is the facts. There are Black men around the country that hold political offices that SCREW there base off at the drop of a dime. Obama has used a lot of smoke and mirrors and his mission statements are not clear at all. He gives great speeches and I am move to see him orate in such a skilled manner, however our country is on the brink of financial collapse, our young men are over seas dying, our woman are killing our future, Members from other countries are coming across our borders and taking away our citizens social funding. Some states want to permit same sex marriages.

I can not and will not support any man that subscribes to these issues. His color will not have anything to do with my children's future. Is Hillary the answer? Let her record speak for her.




Wootten Hathaway
 
My, that was a lot to swallow my friend. I don't want you to waste time either going back and forth. Thats not productive either.

The reason I posted Obama's senate voting record, was because a lot of members of this board see his candidacy as way to get a Black guy in the Oval Office at any cost.

Whats missing is the facts. There are Black men around the country that hold political offices that SCREW there base off at the drop of a dime. Obama has used a lot of smoke and mirrors and his mission statements are not clear at all. He gives great speeches and I am move to see him orate in such a skilled manner, however our country is on the brink of financial collapse, our young men are over seas dying, our woman are killing our future, Members from other countries are coming across our borders and taking away our citizens social funding. Some states want to permit same sex marriages.

I can not and will not support any man that subscribes to these issues. His color will not have anything to do with my children's future. Is Hillary the answer? Let her record speak for her.




Wootten Hathaway

ok two things first off you are doing what blunt does, members of this board are being "judged" by association you are under the assumption that anybody who is a obama supporter is too stupid to do their own research and is blindly voting for him based on him being black. I take offense to that, for the life of me i can't figure out why people don't get the fact that BGOL is bigger in scope than the loud mouths who post here there are many successful educated people from all walks of life around the world. A couple dipshits don't represent me. :smh:

Second I see you are trying to play devils advocate, however you are falling under the same trap everybody else does who is trying to be "objective". To YOU people playing devils advocate, a white man can do crack, sell fetus', drink blood out of a new born baby, slap bitches his whole life while a black man must be the second coming of Jesus christ without any faults or mistakes for him to be worthy of the whitemans position of President of the United states MUTHER FUCK THAT BULLSHIT.

I don't to agree with everything in Obama's voting record, i don't have to agree with every policy idea he has either, Never in a billion years will you find somebody on planet earth you agree 100% with... nobody can fit into that mold except you.
 
I told you guys months ago that these asshole were here on BGOL. What person with serious interest in the black cause would use Ronald Reagan as their avatar.

You know the deal put him on your ignore list!

Shit, I didn't even trip off of that...correct, sir, on all accounts...
 
I've learned not to argue with the Hillary supporters.

You know some slaves actually fought for the south - they thought freedom was overrated.
 
Now I posted this before the debate. I honestly believe that the supporters of both campaigns visit this board for real strategy against each others camps.

The only way your guy has a fighting chance is that he becomes very clear on facts.

Obama has failed to vote on many issues and he balances his votes after resolutions that has passed and that makes him either uninformed on the bill or just lazy.

I believe its probably a little of both.

1. Declaring English the National Language.
2. He splits his vote on Illegal immigrants.
3. He is bi-partial to abortion thus continueing the barberic practice of murder that is government sanctioned.
4. He choose not to vote on many of the farmers issues. He was absent for many of the voting sessions.
5. Permanent Residence for Certain Undocumented Immigrants
6. Iraq Withdrawal Amendment
7. Military Funding and Tax Cuts Amendment
8. He just have too many NV's on serious voting matters
I just skimmed the list.

Now I want to be very clear that I would love to see an African American in the Oval Office, however Obama is just not ready. just look at the facts

Politics is not a sport, dickface. Lives are at stake. Grow the fuck up.

Also fuck Ronald Reagan for letting his buddies unleash crack on America, destroying a generation of black folk, in exchange for backdoor funding for the Contras. Ronald Reagan Pig.
 
Hillary is just like Bush and suck up to the neo conservatives. I have always been a democrat however if she wins I may vote republican or no vote. For two reasons she too power hungry and she and her husband dissing Obama and blacks.


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If Obama or Edwards doesn't get the nod, I'm not voting. Hillary or Bill will say and do anything to get back in the white house after they're ass damn near got evicted the last time they was there. Who the fuck wants bill clinton back in the white house after he lied under oath, like he won't lie to your black ass? And the republican candidates are a fucking joke. Most of them are undercover racists ( Huckabee, Thompson, Ron Paul) and Mccain is just stupid. The dumb fuck actually thinks the Iraq war was a good idea.
 
His voting record has confirmed many of my previous fears about his becoming president. It seems that he is so scared of scrutiny and criticism, that he declined to even vote and make a stand on major issues. There are alot of people that hate Hilary Clinton and does not want her president. I understand that, but I know exactly where she stands on issues and what she is about. It seems to me personally, that Barack has gone too far with the "uniter" idea and is trying to play both sides of the fence. When you become President of the United States, you have to make the tough decisions. There is no halfway, sometimes the yes and no both have pros and cons to the choices. There is no opting out of those kinds of decisions as President. It bothers me.
 
His voting record has confirmed many of my previous fears about his becoming president. It seems that he is so scared of scrutiny and criticism, that he declined to even vote and make a stand on major issues. There are alot of people that hate Hilary Clinton and does not want her president. I understand that, but I know exactly where she stands on issues and what she is about. It seems to me personally, that Barack has gone too far with the "uniter" idea and is trying to play both sides of the fence. When you become President of the United States, you have to make the tough decisions. There is no halfway, sometimes the yes and no both have pros and cons to the choices. There is no opting out of those kinds of decisions as President. It bothers me.






Who was the president at this time:



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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif]U.S. Military Assistance in Africa’s First World War[/FONT]

[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif]In 1998 alone, U.S. weapons to Africa totaled $12.5 million, including substantial deliveries to Chad, Namibia, and Zimbabwe – all now backing Kabila.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif]On the rebel side, Uganda received nearly $1.5 million in weaponry over the past two years, and Rwanda was importing U.S. weapons as late as 1993 (one year before the brutal genocide erupted).
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif]U.S. military transfers in the form of direct government-to-government weapons deliveries, commercial sales, and IMET training to the states directly involved has totaled more than $125 million since the end of the Cold War (see Tables 1 and 2.)
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif][18]All told, the U.S. has helped build the arsenals of eight of the nine governments directly involved in the Congo War.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif]In addition, some of the Rwandan forces which played a key role in toppling the regime of long-time arms client Mobutu Sese Soko in Zaire had received training from U.S. special forces under the Joint Combined Exchange Training (JCET) program.
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[FONT=Helvetica, Arial, San Sarif]The U.S. also provided an estimated $250 million in covert military assistance to UNITA’s forces between 1986-1991, [19] and is alleged to be backing the Sudanese People’s Liberation Army.[/FONT]


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His voting record has confirmed many of my previous fears about his becoming president. It seems that he is so scared of scrutiny and criticism, that he declined to even vote and make a stand on major issues. There are alot of people that hate Hilary Clinton and does not want her president. I understand that, but I know exactly where she stands on issues and what she is about. It seems to me personally, that Barack has gone too far with the "uniter" idea and is trying to play both sides of the fence. When you become President of the United States, you have to make the tough decisions. There is no halfway, sometimes the yes and no both have pros and cons to the choices. There is no opting out of those kinds of decisions as President. It bothers me.
That's only part of it.

DELIBERATION is essential when making "tough decisions". A full understanding of the consequences and ramifications of those decisions can only be attained with as much intelligence and information as possible per issues.

Obama would do just that but NOT to insure that his (or his cronies) particular interests will see a favorable outcome (yeah......I'm talking about George Bush!). I believe he would do as much as he could to have the question of "How can this benefit the American citizens" answered concisely and accurrately before making a move.

And if that question can't be answered to his liking but he is forced to move ahead, I think he will make sure that everyone understands (as best he can) exactly WHY something was done without his full approval.

Not for every little decision he makes daily. But certainly on matters that have broad reaching affect.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
I've learned not to argue with the Hillary supporters.

You know some slaves actually fought for the south - they thought freedom was overrated.


I just dont understand this "Support".

If you black and proud, and recognize MLK's "DREAM". This is it.
There should be no debate in your peanut ass brain who to fuckin vote for.


FOOLS/House Nig**rs on here and in general that lust white women and shit on the sisters big/ skinny/ short / tall, on here with so-called Degrees are pathetic and make me sick.:puke:

This is why the black man will always be divided, and never get further than a fuckin degree.

Always the ones that think they already made it, voting for the opposition.
Niggas you aint make it. You lost reality and sense of balance.

Your a fool if you think those nasty ass crackers like you.:lol::smh:
 
How Would You Like To Be the Clinton's Friend?

The following is a list of dead people connected with the Clintons:

James McDougal - Clinton's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

WHY ARE YOU QUOTING SOMETHING FROM FOXNEWS?:hmm: IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THIS WAS THE RUSH LIMBAUGH/FAUXNEWS CONSPIRACY B.S. THAT HELP INSPIRE TIM MCVEIGH TO BLOW UP THAT OKC BUILDING, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER PLAYA, OR SHOULD I SAY "WHITEBOY":hmm:
 
Politics is not a sport, dickface. Lives are at stake. Grow the fuck up.

Also fuck Ronald Reagan for letting his buddies unleash crack on America, destroying a generation of black folk, in exchange for backdoor funding for the Contras. Ronald Reagan Pig.

Having Ronald Reagan in your Avatar is telling, calling him an American Icon is also telling. Reagan is an "Icon" because he acted presidential while scuttling inner cities- This man perpetrated one of the most despicable crimes against a generation of black folks. Ronald Reagan employed the CIA to illegally pump tons of drugs into the inner cities in order to fund a war this country voted to stay out of.

Why Reagan, what does this Icon mean to you Wooten?
 
Damn Wooten, you dodgin posts like a politician. :smh:

Still NOTA, but thought it might be helpful with an assist.

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I have seen his record before but what is your point? I agree with some stances and disagree with others. But you show me one candidate that you agree totally with on all stances and I will tell you that you are looking in the mirror. Where is your candidate record?. Why do we always have to find something wrong about our people but love and over look the faults of others?

One Love

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WHY ARE YOU QUOTING SOMETHING FROM FOXNEWS?:hmm: IF MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, THIS WAS THE RUSH LIMBAUGH/FAUXNEWS CONSPIRACY B.S. THAT HELP INSPIRE TIM MCVEIGH TO BLOW UP THAT OKC BUILDING, YOU SHOULD KNOW BETTER PLAYA, OR SHOULD I SAY "WHITEBOY":hmm:

you make no kind of sense.

the whiteboy comment made me chuckle at your simple ass.
keep tap dancin for the clinton's :dance:
 
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