AT&T stops Iphone online sales in ny due to network failures

[veritech]

You have to remember a lot of the features that are so common on Smartphones these days were nonexistent prior to the iPhone.

this is so misinformed. name one feature that was nonexistent before the iphone. i worked in the industry so please think before you post some more misinformation.

During the time copy & paste didnt exist, there were multiple companies who offered alternatives. Yet it required participation from other developers for it to take off. Nobody participated, so you had to wait on Apple to get it to work. When Apple was able to pull it off in a simple, easy to use, and secure way... They provided it for FREE along with multiple other features and even new default apps.

come on man. you cant be serious. copy and paste has existed since before my first winmo phone, the SX66, made by htc. and that was back in 2005.

 

[veritech]

If you say so. I have done that shit for 3 years dude. If they can't get that shit to boot they don't know what happened and they give you a new one. Did it with my 6700, my mogul and my touch pro.

if you are bricking phones like that you need to stick to the stock roms......

 

[FLoss]

It was for online sales only, not retail stores, but anyway....


Online iPhone sales back on in New York City

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/online-iphone-sales-back-on-in-new-york-city/

 

[veritech]

there are some true clowns over at att right now. wtf is going on with them.

 

[AgentCreed]

U thought they wouldn't? y'all iphoners r too serious.

It was for online sales only, not retail stores, but anyway....


Online iPhone sales back on in New York City

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/28/online-iphone-sales-back-on-in-new-york-city/

 

[AgentCreed]

seeing as though carriers place restrictions on phones.. you will never have a a device that does that.

um...Google Experience phones have no limitations via carrier its in the contract between google n the carrier.
An android phone thats not an experience phone for example is the Moto backflip for At&T its android but it has no google apps. Everything has been rebranded to At&T. Even the Android Market is gone. Why? b/c At&t chose not to have this be a google experience device just a generic At&t device.
That phone will suck.
Now the Droid and other Android devices are experience phones so none of that carrier fuckery is allowed.
Its in the contract.

 

[Devilstrider]

if you are bricking phones like that you need to stick to the stock roms......

That was when i first started so fuck off. I only bricked one but it know if i did more i could swap them out.

 

[AgentCreed]

Interpretation:

iPhone haters come in iPhone threads to bash the iPhone..the Pre threads are pretty chill because iPhone users rarely go in those threads causing trouble...

oh please u and your instigating threads. U dont go into the Pre thread talking shit.
U attention whore and make threads calling it crap.
The Pre is a very good device.
U do realize u make attack threads about other devices more than anybody right?
Insecure about your glorified mp3 player?
Go back to stock iphone and talk your shit.
Wait you won't.

 

[divine]

umm Bullshit. If the phone is on the carrier network.. there are restrictions.

um...Google Experience phones have no limitations via carrier its in the contract between google n the carrier.
An android phone thats not an experience phone for example the Moto backflip for At&T is android but it has no google apps. Everything has been rebranded to At&T. Even the Android Market is gone. Why? b/c At&t chose not to have this be a google experience device just a generic At&t device.
That phone will suck.
Now the Droid and other Android devices are experience phones so none of that carrier fuckery is allowed.
Its in the contract.

 

[divine]

I post tech articles.. you don't like it.. stay out my threads CLOWN.

oh please u and your instigating threads. U dont go into the Pre thread talking shit.
U attention whore and make threads calling it crap.
The Pre is a very good device.
U do realize u make attack threads about other devices more than anybody right?
Insecure about your glorified mp3 player?
Go back to stock iphone and talk your shit.
Wait you won't.

 

[AgentCreed]

umm Bullshit. If the phone is on the carrier network.. there are restrictions.

nope. not on experience devices. only restrictions are minute plans like every phone after that no restrictions ask any android user we have no limits to what we can do by mandate of the carrier(except for at&t).
its in the contract. Carriers can't fuck with it or they gotta pay google damages of a high ass number.
Ur iphone has restrictions and pretty soon ur getting data restrictions but Android won't as long as experience phones are being made.
Like the head of VZW said "if its an open device it will remain open".
Apple iphone is a closed device.
Google experience Androids are Open.
Ask any one of the Android users on here.

 

[AgentCreed]

I post tech articles.. you don't like it.. stay out my threads CLOWN.

The tech articles call other devices crap? hmmm...

 

[divine]

umm Bullshit. if it runs on a carrier network..there are restrictions. period.

nope. not on experience devices. only restrictions are minute plans like every phone after that no restrictions ask any android user we have no limits to what we can do by mandate of the carrier(except for at&t).
its in the contract. Carriers can't fuck with it or they gotta pay google damages of a high ass number.
Ur iphone has restrictions and pretty soon ur getting data restrictions but Android won't as long as experience phones are being made.
Like the head of VZW said "if its an open device it will remain open".
Apple iphone is a closed device.
Google experience Androids are Open.
Ask any one of the Android users on here.

 

[divine]

The tech articles call other devices crap? hmmm...

yes.

 

[AgentCreed]

umm Bullshit. if it runs on a carrier network..there are restrictions. period.

Nope! lol...u want so hard to believe Experience devices have restrictions lol....the at&t iphone living has made u closed minded.

The Google Experience: Phones featuring the Google logo with all Google apps installed and includes unrestricted access (neither the carrier nor handset maker can block applications they find objectionable) to the Android market. 5 or 6 of the 20, Android phones mentioned by Rubin will deliver the full Google Experience as god and Sergey designed it.

U can google that. Its in the contract for Experience devices.
No Restrictions.

 

[divine]

You are talking about apps. duuh. Im talking about carrier restrictions..

Nope! lol...u want so hard to believe Experience devices have restrictions lol....the at&t iphone living has made u closed minded.

U can google that. Its in the contract for Experience devices.
No Restrictions.

 

[AgentCreed]

You are talking about apps. duuh

and I said the only restrictions are plan based like ALL phones. Well except on VZW unlimited data means unlimited data no cap(unless u tether but thanks to the market and rooting u can tether and still have no cap).
On Tmo the cap is a soft one of 5gigs(who really uses 5 gigs in a month on a mobile?)
I think Sprint is unlimited data like Vzw with no soft cap not sure gotta ask the sprint android users.
PLus of course the voice plan i mean if your plan is 500 mins and u go over u pay even iphone has that.
Only tmo has the unlimited voice and data for android and thats about 80 a month I was told.
other than that.
No restrictions on features or apps (as my earlier statement was directed towards I assumed everyone understood the basic voice plan restrictions guess u didn't)

 

[divine]

and as I said, Bullshit. All carriers place restrictions on smartphonse.. for example.. ports. People get around them by using proxies or hacks.

and I said the only restrictions are plan based like ALL phones. Well except on VZW unlimited data means unlimited data no cap(unless u tether but thanks to the market and rooting u can tether and still have no cap).
On Tmo the cap is a soft one of 5gigs(who really uses 5 gigs in a month on a mobile?)
I think Sprint is unlimited data like Vzw with no soft cap not sure gotta ask the sprint android users.
PLus of course the voice plan i mean if your plan is 500 mins and u go over u pay even iphone has that.
Only tmo has the unlimited voice and data for android and thats about 80 a month I was told.
other than that.
No restrictions on features or apps (as my earlier statement was directed towards I assumed everyone understood the basic voice plan restrictions guess u didn't)

 

[AgentCreed]

and as I said, Bullshit. All carriers place restrictions on smartphone.. for example.. ports. People get around them by using proxies or hacks.

i wouldn't know i've never tried to access or change my devices port. never saw the purpose i'm not even rooted which is funny b/c stock android can do what your jailbroken iphone can do and in some cases better(heard with 2.1 our browser blows iphones away ) i'd be a real asshole once i rooted my devices but my devices work just fine how it is. I can install anything, theme it however I want and have it respond how i wish and where i wish.
its truly wonderful.
As for the rooted experience u can ask any of the good men in the android thread and they'll give u glowing reviews.
Funny thing i read an article that Android is expecting 150k apps by the end of 2010...it took iphone to get 85k(or the marketing numbers 100k) apps 3 yrs.
It'll take android less than 2.
Pretty impressive.
The market is adding about 75 apps a week give or take.
So pretty soon your bragging about the number of apps you have will be void.

I look forward to the iphone vs android debate at the end of 2010 and see what marketing bs from apple is spewed when the playing field is even(well as even as u can get with a army of snapdragon androids and other androids against the 1g,2g,3g,3gs,4g,tablet...u know that is a fair fight lol)
Anyway its been fun divine but this thread is done with. The fun is over.
Good luck with that iphone man.

 

[divine]

Well if you decide to buy an open source smartphone, you should familiarize yourself with the ports (besides the ones the carriers open).. because that's when these port blocking matters most. But like I said, there are solutions to work around it.

i wouldn't know i've never tried to access or change my devices port. never saw the purpose i'm not even rooted which is funny b/c stock android can do what your jailbroken iphone can do and in some cases better(heard with 2.1 our browser blows iphones away ) i'd be a real asshole once i rooted my devices but my devices work just fine how it is. I can install anything, theme it however I want and have it respond how i wish and where i wish.
its truly wonderful.
As for the rooted experience u can ask any of the good men in the android thread and they'll give u glowing reviews.
Funny thing i read an article that Android is expecting 150k apps by the end of 2010...it took iphone to get 85k(or the marketing numbers 100k) apps 3 yrs.
It'll take android less than 2.
Pretty impressive.


I look forward to the iphone vs android debate at the end of 2010 and see what marketing bs from apple is spewed when the playing field is even(well as even as u can get with a army of snapdragon androids and other androids against the 1g,2g,3g,3gs,4g,tablet...u know that is a fair fight lol)
Anyway its been fun divine but this thread is done with. The fun is over.
Good luck with that iphone man.

The market is adding about 75 apps a week give or take.
So pretty soon your bragging about the number of apps you have will be void.

APple reviews about 8500 apps a week.

 

[Devilstrider]

Kills me how people talk about how many apps are coming out and shit. Between the iphone, android and windows mobile most of the apps are fucking bullshit.

 

[AgentCreed]

as i said i dont really need all that right now. maybe in the future. who knows. right now i'm content.

Well if you decide to buy an open source smartphone, you should familiarize yourself with the ports (besides the ones the carriers open).. because that's when these port blocking matters most. But like I said, there are solutions to work around it.

 

[divine]

as i said i dont really need all that right now. maybe in the future. who knows. right now i'm content.

I don't know what you need. But I know the open source community doesn't like carriers restricting internet ports. Thats why they use proxies and hacks to work around it.

 

[AgentCreed]

not all i have some very useful apps on my droid. had some useful ones on my G1. A lot of apps are bs but not all. thebeautiful thing with android if enough users hate an app google removes it. granted developers can put an app in with little checking(besides legal ones) its nice that the android community can remove or downvote the crappy apps. some sneak through but a lot of good ones are around.
Fun for me is I can get other carriers apps on my droid. like i have sprints nfl live app on my phone and i'm on verizon and lemme tell u as a football fan its a great app.

Kills me how people talk about how many apps are coming out and shit. Between the iphone, android and windows mobile most of the apps are fucking bullshit.

 

[AgentCreed]

I don't know what you need. But I know the open source community doesn't like carriers restricting internet ports. Thats why they use proxies and hacks to work around it.

my internet works just fine for my needs. everything else i dont really think much about.

 

[divine]

taken a second ago from my iPhone Dolphins app

not all i have some very useful apps on my droid. had some useful ones on my G1. A lot of apps are bs but not all. thebeautiful thing with android if enough users hate an app google removes it. granted developers can put an app in with little checking(besides legal ones) its nice that the android community can remove or downvote the crappy apps. some sneak through but a lot of good ones are around.
Fun for me is I can get other carriers apps on my droid. like i have sprints nfl live app on my phone and i'm on verizon and lemme tell u as a football fan its a great app.

 

[divine]

oh.. and this lil news article just came in on my iPhone..about the iPhone

Apple's Quarterly iPhone and Overall Sales Estimates Continue to Rise
Monday December 28, 2009 04:31 PM EST; Category: iPhone
Written by Eric Slivka
Just two weeks ago, a suggestion that Apple could sell 10 million iPhones during the current quarter began to make its way around the Mac investor and rumor communities. At the time, the claim was significantly higher than analysts' consensus in the 8-9 million range, and was thus viewed with some skepticism.

Tech Trader Daily today reports on an Apple stock upgrade from Broadpoint AmTech analyst Brian Marshall, who has done things one better by pushing his quarterly iPhone sales estimates to 11.3 million on the strength of international sales.
Meanwhile, Broadpoint.AmTech analyst Brian Marshall boosted his target this morning to $260, from $235, repeating his Buy rating. Marshall's note focused on explaining his higher-than-consensus estimate for December quarter iPhone sales: he sees 11.3 million units in the quarter, above the Street at an estimated 8.8 million. Marshall sees U.S. units down 20% sequentially, to about 2.5 million units, but with international units more than doubling sequentially to 8.8 million units.

Marshall's view has yet to spread to other industry analysts, however, as consensus iPhone shipments for the quarter remain slightly under 9 million.

Other analysts are upping their overall forecasts for Apple though, as Digital Daily notes that Thomas Weisel Partners analyst Doug Reid has boosted his sales predictions, particularly for the company's iMac line that was revamped in October. Reid's industry checks indicate very strong demand likely leading to yet another outstanding quarter for Apple.

In the wake of today's analyst upgrades, Apple's stock hit a new all-time high of $213.95 before settling back to close at $211.67.

 

[AgentCreed]

awwww....

oh.. and this lil news article just came in on my iPhone..about the iPhone

Apple's Quarterly iPhone and Overall Sales Estimates Continue to Rise
Monday December 28, 2009 04:31 PM EST; Category: iPhone
Written by Eric Slivka
Just two weeks ago, a suggestion that Apple could sell 10 million iPhones during the current quarter began to make its way around the Mac investor and rumor communities. At the time, the claim was significantly higher than analysts' consensus in the 8-9 million range, and was thus viewed with some skepticism.

Tech Trader Daily today reports on an Apple stock upgrade from Broadpoint AmTech analyst Brian Marshall, who has done things one better by pushing his quarterly iPhone sales estimates to 11.3 million on the strength of international sales.
Meanwhile, Broadpoint.AmTech analyst Brian Marshall boosted his target this morning to $260, from $235, repeating his Buy rating. Marshall's note focused on explaining his higher-than-consensus estimate for December quarter iPhone sales: he sees 11.3 million units in the quarter, above the Street at an estimated 8.8 million. Marshall sees U.S. units down 20% sequentially, to about 2.5 million units, but with international units more than doubling sequentially to 8.8 million units.

Marshall's view has yet to spread to other industry analysts, however, as consensus iPhone shipments for the quarter remain slightly under 9 million.

Other analysts are upping their overall forecasts for Apple though, as Digital Daily notes that Thomas Weisel Partners analyst Doug Reid has boosted his sales predictions, particularly for the company's iMac line that was revamped in October. Reid's industry checks indicate very strong demand likely leading to yet another outstanding quarter for Apple.

In the wake of today's analyst upgrades, Apple's stock hit a new all-time high of $213.95 before settling back to close at $211.67.

 

[AgentCreed]

taken a second ago from my iPhone Dolphins app

thats cute...got ur lil dolphags on ur cutsy iphone...awwwwwww
i got a similar app too for my team...but thats so nice for u.

 

[redemption]

this is so misinformed. name one feature that was nonexistent before the iphone. i worked in the industry so please think before you post some more misinformation.

Misinformed? Maps, iTunes, iPod, Safari.... Matter of fact, how they got webkit working in Safari alone ends this argument. Please name a phone that was capable of doing what the iPhone could do out the box and did not require a Computer Science degree to figure out. And even if you could figure it out it was completely unsusable (keep in mind I've owned plenty of smartphones and winmo devices, streamed video from a slingbox the whole 9). I am in no way saying Apple invented these features, but prior to the iPhone, mobile phones/smartphones SUCKED. And I DARE you to argue against that..

come on man. you cant be serious. copy and paste has existed since before my first winmo phone, the SX66, made by htc. and that was back in 2005.

Re-read my argument cause youre missing the point (or trying to interpret it as some fanboy rhetoric). The original post was saying the iPhone is bad because you have to wait on Apple for features. I argued that while copy & paste wasnt provided by Apple, there were plenty of solutions readily available in the App Store, it just required participation from developers. Point being, you dont necessarily have to wait for Apple when there are tons of developers out there providing solutions to many of the shortcomings of the iPhone...

I like how you cherry picked these 2 points, and completely disregarded the many other points I provided. Nice try, but naw it aint gonna work with me homie. Move along

 

[divine]

thats cute...got ur lil dolphags on ur cutsy iphone...awwwwwww
i got a similar app too for my team...but thats so nice for u.

How long you gonna be mad at the iPhone? Give it up dude.. its taking over!