At least someone gets it.
AT&T stops Iphone online sales in ny due to network failures
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At least someone gets it.
u confuse amusement with anger... I never been mad at iphone in my life. for what? its a great piece of marketing. Its overhyped and sold as the end all be all yet it fails to deliver key services to the end user forcing said user to jailbreak just to get what they want.
Whats to be mad about?
I can do whatever I want with my phone without asking permission of the maker. Do we need to go back in your post history where u were mad at apple for blocking the gv app which spurred you to jail break and announce its the greatest thing ever?
Save the bullshit Divine. Your an apple sheep. spreading its marketing bullshit.
Yes you promote its 100k apps but you leave out it its really only 85k but apple says 100k so u go with that. cool.
You also ignore that out of those 85k apps about 30 percent are FART APPS meaning you only have about 59k useable apps*unless u want me to break down the sex apps and other pointless apps?) in your vaunted app store lets also acknowledge the lower user retention on said apps. Or the rabid cases of app fraud where developers are pumping their own stats which lowers the app usage totals even more. Apple kicked a few out of the app store recently. you can google them.
You spit marketing bullshit that are used to impress the masses but leave out credible info.
The iphone is built with a low end radio so its built to drop calls.
So no this is not AT&T's fault. The network fuckery is all apple's.
Here's the teardown.
Your sucking steve jobs dick for a 178 dollar device you paid double for and other paid triple for with low end cheap parts that purposely drops calls. The most expensive parts are the shiny screen and the memory.
Yeah Thats something to hate on.
And yes you iphone is voided. Read the small print apple sent you. You modified the OS when u jailbroke. So if your phone breaks unless u can unjailbreak it. Your kicking out more cash for a new one. Being pimped by AT&T and Apple for low end service.
The Iphone or its real name The Itunes phone is a glorified mp3 player/PMP that makes calls badly and you and others pay out the ass for it.
We should all hate on such fuckery. Its glorious to be so blinded by the marketing you fail to see the truth.
Congrats on your subpar device that everyone is "angry about"
Save your bullshit ass iphone arrogance for when you get a real device that works without you needing you do anything to it.
LMAO
Whats to be mad about?
I can do whatever I want with my phone without asking permission of the maker. Do we need to go back in your post history where u were mad at apple for blocking the gv app which spurred you to jail break and announce its the greatest thing ever?
Save the bullshit Divine. Your an apple sheep. spreading its marketing bullshit.
Yes you promote its 100k apps but you leave out it its really only 85k but apple says 100k so u go with that. cool.
You also ignore that out of those 85k apps about 30 percent are FART APPS meaning you only have about 59k useable apps*unless u want me to break down the sex apps and other pointless apps?) in your vaunted app store lets also acknowledge the lower user retention on said apps. Or the rabid cases of app fraud where developers are pumping their own stats which lowers the app usage totals even more. Apple kicked a few out of the app store recently. you can google them.
You spit marketing bullshit that are used to impress the masses but leave out credible info.
The iphone is built with a low end radio so its built to drop calls.
So no this is not AT&T's fault. The network fuckery is all apple's.
Here's the teardown.
Your sucking steve jobs dick for a 178 dollar device you paid double for and other paid triple for with low end cheap parts that purposely drops calls. The most expensive parts are the shiny screen and the memory.
Yeah Thats something to hate on.
And yes you iphone is voided. Read the small print apple sent you. You modified the OS when u jailbroke. So if your phone breaks unless u can unjailbreak it. Your kicking out more cash for a new one. Being pimped by AT&T and Apple for low end service.
The Iphone or its real name The Itunes phone is a glorified mp3 player/PMP that makes calls badly and you and others pay out the ass for it.
We should all hate on such fuckery. Its glorious to be so blinded by the marketing you fail to see the truth.
Congrats on your subpar device that everyone is "angry about"
Save your bullshit ass iphone arrogance for when you get a real device that works without you needing you do anything to it.
LMAO
I make calls every day on my phone.. and my warranty is not voided. Why do you speak about something you know nothing about? You do know that makes you look like an idiot, right?
Are you mad at AT&T or the iPhone? I'm confused about why.. since you use neither
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How am I hating on the iPhone for that? I used to do blackberry support for 2 major companies where the employees were given blackberries strictly for work usage. Corporate devices have heavy data usage & we all know jailbroken iphones use more data as you have more apps available than the non-jailbroken device. Not once did I say anything negative about the iPhone so saying I'm hating on the device is irrelevant. My post was just pointing out that AT&T has other devices that have heavy data usage & from my experience the majority of AT&T's blackberries are used in the corporate environment.How about saying none Corporate blackberry data usage? You cats kill me trying to make your own environment to prove shit. Nigga a iphone is a iphone. Jailbroken or not. Your hate is strong
Again.. you being an idiot speaking about what you know not. Jailbreaking is a software update (why would I not be able to unjailbreak it). If I need to return my iPhone to Apple for warranty repairs, I simply put the original software back on the phone. No warranty voided because Apple will not know it was previously jailbroken. Why do you comment on shit you know nothing about? Is it because of your hatred of the iPhone?
fool...I said that
u said in another thread iphone is successful b/c most users are dumb and its simple ass user interface is perfect.
I can see now why you feel that way.
Your sheep and you need to be LED.
Explains a lot.
Cats are actually proud that they don't like to think and can't even figure out a cellphone.
Wow.
u said in another thread iphone is successful b/c most users are dumb and its simple ass user interface is perfect.
I can see now why you feel that way.
Your sheep and you need to be LED.
Explains a lot.
Cats are actually proud that they don't like to think and can't even figure out a cellphone.
Wow.
I'm pretty sure its the same with every fucking phone. I know its like that with WM phones as well. They will not work in your shit if you have custom roms on it. Its the same everywhere so i don't know why this cat trying to make it a iphone only thing.
So why bring it up CLOWN.. if someone knows to jailbreak they also know to unjailbreak if they need to return the phone.
not android's. google is fine with rooters. there are several cases where people bricked their devices on other carriers and went to the store and walked out with new ones no questions asked.
Try bricking an iphone b/c u messed around with the OS and see if they'll give u a new one.
I do admit since Droid is new to VZW i don't know if that policy applies to VZW but it does with tmo and sprint.
oh i'm not i'm simply pointing out things iphoners in their vast arrogance ignore yet try to proclaim as a great feature.
The iphone has flaws yet it seems y'all iphoners act as tho it doesn't.
BULLSHIT.
There are several articles on the Android forums on how to unroot your phone for warranty purposes.
There are several articles on the Android forums on how to unroot your phone for warranty purposes.
pretty much any device
Where did i say there weren't? I said if u brick your android u can walk into the store and walk out with a new one no questions asked. They won't care about the warranty. I never said it doesn't void it. I said the stores WON'T care. (not sure about VZW stores tho)
AT$T/Apple stores will care.
10 Reasons Why Apple, Not AT&T, Is to Blame for iPhone Flaws
1. Apple entered into an exclusive contract
It's easy to talk about AT&T as if it's a company that doesn't understand the desires of the user, but it was Apple that decided to enter into an exclusive agreement with the carrier. I'm willing to bet that any carrier would have been happy to offer the iPhone. Apple could have brought it to multiple networks. But AT&T gave Apple a sweetheart deal that Steve Jobs couldn't decline. Since then, we've been forced to deal with AT&T's poor network.
Apple approached multiple networks and even considered leasing bandwidth and becoming their own carrier. You have to remember a lot of the features that are so common on Smartphones these days were nonexistent prior to the iPhone. Their implementation required a lot of SECRECY, R&D, and CONTROL on Apple's part to get it right. All the carriers except AT&T turned Apple down (INCLUDING VERIZON).
2. Apple sets App Store policy
Although AT&T has asked Apple to institute some rules for the company's App Store, it's Apple that has set its App Store policy, not AT&T. So when neat apps get rejected from the store or useless apps make their way into the marketplace, it's Apple's fault. And it's important not to forget that.
The numbers speak for themself. Every other carrier is putting out their own App Stores and they arent reaching not even half the success Apple has made IN ITS FIRST YEAR. This argument is bullshit. And keep in mind its also Apple's fault when GREAT Apps and USEFUL Apps make it to the App Store (which greatly outweigh the shitty ones). Giving AT&T control in this matter would be insane. They are having enough problems with their own fucking network. I can only imagine the endless amounts of fail that would occur if you gave AT&T any type of responsibility in the App Store...
3. The company has never played well with developers
Apple has a long history of having problems with developers. With Mac OS X, Apple still limits third-party involvement, citing concerns over the stability and security of its operating system. That may sound like a prudent policy, but let's face it; the more third-party apps, the richer the experience. Considering third-party developers continue to gripe over the iPhone, should we really blame any other company but Apple for it? I don't think so.
LOL. This dude obviously does not know what he's talking about. OSX is not an open source OS, hence no 3rd party involvement (same with Windows). The only gripes SOME developers have with OSX is that Apple is migrating to more modern API's which means developers who based their Apps on older technology need to, in some cases, rewrite/recompile their apps for them to work on the latest version of OSX. In regards to the iPhone, the App Store approval process is the only issue, and thats mainly related to feedback from Apple during the approval process or rejections (however this area has greatly improved on Apple's part in comparison to how it was initially).
4. Apple makes hardware decisions
Those that wish the iPhone had a physical keyboard can't blame AT&T for that. Those that wanted a camcorder prior to the iPhone 3G S' launch couldn't take AT&T to task. When it comes to hardware problems, it's Apple that deserves to bear the brunt of those criticisms. The company is in full control over the design of the iPhone.
Yet, it still outsells all of its competitors who offer such features. The hardware decisions are based on the cost, performance, and experience provided by the phone. You run a video recording app on the 3G and you'll understand exactly why Apple left the feature out for the next gen hardware revision. If Apple shouldnt be in control of the design of the phone, who should be? AT&T? Fuck outta here. When it comes to design, any other company would beg to have Apple in control. This is by no means a negative...
5. Apple makes software decisions
The same can be said for Apple's software. When users begged for copy and paste, it wasn't AT&T that held it up, it was Apple. The iPhone is littered with software quirks that need to be improved. But that won't happen until Apple decides to update the software with those improvements. No other company can do it.
During the time copy & paste didnt exist, there were multiple companies who offered alternatives. Yet it required participation from other developers for it to take off. Nobody participated, so you had to wait on Apple to get it to work. When Apple was able to pull it off in a simple, easy to use, and secure way... They provided it for FREE along with multiple other features and even new default apps.
6. At any point, Apple can work with other carriers
Let's not forget that there are several other wireless carriers competing against AT&T that would welcome the iPhone. There are also millions of Verizon Wireless subscribers, Sprint subscribers and T-Mobile subscribers that would love the opportunity to use the iPhone. And many AT&T users want to switch. So instead of blaming AT&T for not being able to compete with Verizon Wireless, maybe we should blame Apple for not bringing the iPhone to other carriers
Sure, if Apple wants to get sued. They are in an exclusive contract with AT&T idiot. If you look outside of the US, Apple is working with multiple carriers all over the world and is doing very well.
7. It's Apple's iPhone
In the end, it's important to remember that the iPhone is Apple's product. The device isn't owned by AT&T and it hasn't been modified by the competition. Any issues users may have should be directed to Steve Jobs and Company.
Any negatives should definitely be directed at Apple, just like the positives should be credited to them as well. However, the network issues seem to only happen on AT&T. The iPhone is offered by numerous carriers outside the United States and you dont hear of these issues. Even the people with jailbroken iPhones arent reporting these problems...
8. Steve Jobs isn't infallible
Speaking of Steve Jobs, he isn't infallible. He doesn't always make the best decisions. And in the moments when his decisions impact users, it's too easy to point fingers at AT&T or other companies. If Steve Jobs makes a poor decision, it should be recognized for what it is. And blame should be placed where it belongs: on his shoulders.
Youre gonna include "IF Steve Jobs makes a poor decision" in this list??? Seriously? This can be said about any company. If "ENTER YOUR CEO HERE" makes a poor decision. This was a stupid argument and should have been left out.
9. Apple knew what it was getting with AT&T
When the iPhone hit store shelves in 2007, it was no secret that AT&T wasn't the best carrier in the market. Coverage was a little suspect, 3G data was practically nonexistent. Regardless, Apple decided to form an exclusive partnership with AT&T that, two years removed, has caused many users to wish for an iPhone on other networks.
AT&T was the only carrier willing to jump on board. And Apple in their highest expectations, were hoping to sell 10 million phones. Nobody had any idea how big of a hit the iPhone was gonna be.. HENCE the network issues...
10. Would Verizon make the problems go away?
As we consider where the blame for iPhone flaws can be placed, we need to determine if those flaws will be gone if the iPhone was made available on Verizon Wireless' network, rather than AT&T's. It's a hard sell. A network can't change Apple's App Store policies. A new carrier can't improve the virtual keyboard. A new provider can't even deliver the features iPhone owners are waiting for. We need to keep that in mind. It's easy to blame AT&T. Maybe it's time to point some fingers at Apple too.
Sound like this guy should just get a Pre and shut the fuck up. Moving to a new carrier who is now fully aware of the potential bandwidth usage an iPhone customer base can have... will definately be an improvement. Why? Because they can prepare, and take the necessary steps to avoid the problems AT&T is having.
BigDaddyBuk where the hell did you find this shit. Sounds like some Fox News BS. Shame on you.
So, like your other point.. this one is irrelevant!
Your iPhone hate is getting STRONGER and STRONGER young Skywalker!
Your iPhone hate is getting STRONGER and STRONGER young Skywalker!
I think that also depends on whether you placed insurance on your phone or not. I don't know if AT&T allows insurance on the iPhone now but I heard it wasnt avaiable on previous models.
I don't. The problem is cats need to stick to what works for them and thats what i do. I don't go thread to thread on some dumb ass crusade attacking other phones. I look at the and see if i like them. If the can do what i need better than my current phone i switch. The problem is cats are so worried about what someone else is using that they go thread to thread talking shit. Get a fucking life or don't use any phone because there is always something better.
ahh Divine...you can't dispute a thing I said. Its cool tho. Doesn't really matter. Your happy with your device and think everyone is hating on it to comfort yourself. Its ok.
One day u'll have a real device.
Thats because it was fucking bricked and they could not see what you did. I did that shit with countless windows mobile phones. You trying to hard fam. I say the shit stopped working and they can't get it to boot so they give you another.
You said jailbreaking voids your warranty.
Duuuh, any device if you alter it voids your warranty, therefor you simply put it back like it was to avoid that issue. This is nothing new in the world of electronics. Just like the Android.
Your hate is getting STRONGER young Skywalker...
Duuuh, any device if you alter it voids your warranty, therefor you simply put it back like it was to avoid that issue. This is nothing new in the world of electronics. Just like the Android.
Your hate is getting STRONGER young Skywalker...
I made this thread for fun. I could care less about iphone or AT&T. It was humor to me.
The iphoners came storming in defending the shit and getting all arrogant and running with the "hate" bullshit.
I simply pointed out there is nothing to hate.
Its fun to crack on the iphone. Heck SNL did and iphoners got mad at that too.
I'm beginning to think iphoners lack a sense of humor.
Anyone can see I said AT&T stops selling iphones online in NY. Was a shot at AT&T...the iphone brigade ran in defending the device when I wasn't dissing it. (ok I called it the "god phone" so what)
then it became the what will divine do thread then have fun with the iphone...
y'all took a joke and made it serious.
The iphoners came storming in defending the shit and getting all arrogant and running with the "hate" bullshit.
I simply pointed out there is nothing to hate.
Its fun to crack on the iphone. Heck SNL did and iphoners got mad at that too.
I'm beginning to think iphoners lack a sense of humor.
Anyone can see I said AT&T stops selling iphones online in NY. Was a shot at AT&T...the iphone brigade ran in defending the device when I wasn't dissing it. (ok I called it the "god phone" so what)
then it became the what will divine do thread then have fun with the iphone...
y'all took a joke and made it serious.
if u say so.
If you say so. I have done that shit for 3 years dude. If they can't get that shit to boot they don't know what happened and they give you a new one. Did it with my 6700, my mogul and my touch pro.
dude I'm not saying your wrong. I never had to do it. I believe you. besides those are winmo's. replacements should b automatic with those lol
Maybe because they are cool with it and you are the one with the problem. Is this any different the the people who are hardcore about Android, or how earlier this year thought the Pre was going to change everything? Of course you are going to love what you buy. That does not give you the right to bash everything else.
I'm as hardcore as anyone bout Android and i'm nowhere near divine's level neither are the other Android users.
The pre users are all pretty humble dudes who dislike the limitations of WebOS and disliking the next webOs phone is called the pixi but aren't arrogant about it.
The Pre Threads are pretty nice reads.
I've seen the mania in the iphone threads tho...sheesh.
The pre users are all pretty humble dudes who dislike the limitations of WebOS and disliking the next webOs phone is called the pixi but aren't arrogant about it.
The Pre Threads are pretty nice reads.
I've seen the mania in the iphone threads tho...sheesh.
one that u buy or get that doesn't need u to do anything special to it so it will work how u want. One that delivers basic functions right away not makes u wait.
why buy something that doesn't deliver fully without any hassle or wait time?
The stat I give you is for ALL data usage.
(Update: Fraudulent activity)
Update 2: just heard from AT&T. They said:
Thanks for reaching out. Here's our statement this evening:
"We periodically modify our promotions and distribution channels."
Update: We're hearing that they aren't shipping online orders to NYC because of widespread fraud in the NYC area. If so, these fraudsters aren't going to be able to foil this sophisticated fraud prevention tactic by ordering to another ZIP code.
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seems like phones are being unlocked and jailbroken primarily in NYC, then probably sold online from NYC
Update 2: just heard from AT&T. They said:
Thanks for reaching out. Here's our statement this evening:
"We periodically modify our promotions and distribution channels."
Update: We're hearing that they aren't shipping online orders to NYC because of widespread fraud in the NYC area. If so, these fraudsters aren't going to be able to foil this sophisticated fraud prevention tactic by ordering to another ZIP code.
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seems like phones are being unlocked and jailbroken primarily in NYC, then probably sold online from NYC
BigDaddyBuk where the hell did you find this shit. Sounds like some Fox News BS. Shame on you.
I agree. The problem is AT&T's not Apple.
This is no different than an airline like fucked up US Air over-booking a flight so insure the flight is full. So then you show up with your family, bags and tickets you discover you ain't flying no damn where because they over sold the flight. In that scenario Buk posted, the blame is on the family for wanting to fly and not the airline for over booking the flight. That's fokkk news logic at it's finest.
-VG
seeing as though carriers place restrictions on phones.. you will never have a a device that does that.
Interpretation:
iPhone haters come in iPhone threads to bash the iPhone..the Pre threads are pretty chill because iPhone users rarely go in those threads causing trouble...
iPhone haters come in iPhone threads to bash the iPhone..the Pre threads are pretty chill because iPhone users rarely go in those threads causing trouble...
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