AT&T launching 'new' new 4G network

[TREES]

http://money.cnn.com/2011/05/25/technology/att_4g_lte/?section=money_latest

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- AT&T on Wednesday shed more light on the long-awaited 4G network it will launch this summer, naming the first cities that will get access: Dallas, Houston, Chicago, Atlanta and San Antonio.

AT&T plans on adding another "10 or more" markets in the second half of the year, but it didn't say which markets they will be. The company says its Long Term Evolution (LTE) service will be available to 70 million Americans by the end of 2011.

But here's where things get confusing: AT&T already offers a 4G-branded network. That network runs on a different, "HSPA+" standard, which is actually a 3G standard, but has been shown to deliver speeds on par with -- or faster than -- LTE.
AT&T wouldn't disclose how fast it expects its LTE network will perform, but the technology and the equipment vendors used to deploy the network are essentially the same as Verizon's (VZ, Fortune 500). Experts believe the same 5-12 Mbps range is likely.

Bgol smartphone techs, break this shit down?

 

[twillz1]

By definition, LTE is not true 4G. Do not trust or listen to these carriers. They lie. Read this:

"In telecommunications, 4G is the fourth generation of cellular wireless standards. It is a successor to 3G and 2G
families of standards. Speed requirements for 4G service set the peak download speed at 100 Mbit/s for high
mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as
pedestrians and stationary users).
A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based mobile broadband solution to laptop
computer wireless modems, smartphones, and other mobile devices. Facilities such as ultra-broadband Internet
access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users.
Pre-4G technologies such as mobile WiMAX and first-release 3G Long term evolution (LTE) have been on the
market since 2006 and 2009 respectively, and are often branded as 4G. The current versions of these
technologies did not fulfill the original ITU-R requirements of data rates approximately up to 1 Gbit/s for 4G
systems. Marketing materials use 4G as a description for Mobile-WiMAX and LTE in their current forms.
IMT-Advanced compliant versions of the above two standards are under development and called “LTE Advanced”
and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” respectively. ITU has decided that “LTE Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced”
should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. On December 6, 2010, ITU announced that current
versions of LTE, WiMax and other evolved 3G technologies that do not fulfill "IMT-Advanced" requirements could
be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced and "a substantial level of
improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed." [6]
In all suggestions for 4G, the CDMA spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems and IS-95 is
abandoned and replaced by OFDMA and other frequency-domain equalization schemes. This is combined with
MIMO (Multiple In Multiple Out), e.g., multiple antennas, dynamic channel allocation and channel-dependent
scheduling."

I know it's a bit CP, but it DOES answer some of your questions.

 

[UltimateLurker]

 

[veritech]

c/s.

 

[TREES]

By definition, LTE is not true 4G. Do not trust or listen to these carriers. They lie. Read this:

"In telecommunications, 4G is the fourth generation of cellular wireless standards. It is a successor to 3G and 2G
families of standards. Speed requirements for 4G service set the peak download speed at 100 Mbit/s for high
mobility communication (such as from trains and cars) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communication (such as
pedestrians and stationary users).
A 4G system is expected to provide a comprehensive and secure all-IP based mobile broadband solution to laptop
computer wireless modems, smartphones, and other mobile devices. Facilities such as ultra-broadband Internet
access, IP telephony, gaming services, and streamed multimedia may be provided to users.
Pre-4G technologies such as mobile WiMAX and first-release 3G Long term evolution (LTE) have been on the
market since 2006 and 2009 respectively, and are often branded as 4G. The current versions of these
technologies did not fulfill the original ITU-R requirements of data rates approximately up to 1 Gbit/s for 4G
systems. Marketing materials use 4G as a description for Mobile-WiMAX and LTE in their current forms.
IMT-Advanced compliant versions of the above two standards are under development and called “LTE Advanced”
and “WirelessMAN-Advanced” respectively. ITU has decided that “LTE Advanced” and “WirelessMAN-Advanced”
should be accorded the official designation of IMT-Advanced. On December 6, 2010, ITU announced that current
versions of LTE, WiMax and other evolved 3G technologies that do not fulfill "IMT-Advanced" requirements could
be considered "4G", provided they represent forerunners to IMT-Advanced and "a substantial level of
improvement in performance and capabilities with respect to the initial third generation systems now deployed." [6]
In all suggestions for 4G, the CDMA spread spectrum radio technology used in 3G systems and IS-95 is
abandoned and replaced by OFDMA and other frequency-domain equalization schemes. This is combined with
MIMO (Multiple In Multiple Out), e.g., multiple antennas, dynamic channel allocation and channel-dependent
scheduling."

I know it's a bit CP, but it DOES answer some of your questions.

Damm ,thanks for the breakdown.
Still gonna cop that atrix next month and was somewhat excited, oh well.......

 

[Nobody]

This weak ass shit. They do this incrementally so when they bring out the REAL 4g, or near wifi speeds they'll be able to charge you an arm and a leg.

They can go from 3G to speeds much faster than 4G. But they want us to pay MORE for that. You cant go from 3G to better than 4g speeds and charge double.

You gotta take baby steps. Start by eliminating all you can eat data. Then raise prices 10 bucks again, then when it gets to the REAL speed level it should be, charge more again, and lower the data cap.

 

[bham_brotha]

This weak ass shit. They do this incrementally so when they bring out the REAL 4g, or near wifi speeds they'll be able to charge you an arm and a leg.

They can go from 3G to speeds much faster than 4G. But they want us to pay MORE for that. You cant go from 3G to better than 4g speeds and charge double.

You gotta take baby steps. Start by eliminating all you can eat data. Then raise prices 10 bucks again, then when it gets to the REAL speed level it should be, charge more again, and lower the data cap.

Youd have to pay more either way. Just like with Sprint, a simple upgrade can transform wimax into wimax2 which is capable of 100 mb downloads. But the backhaul to maintain it would be triple what it is now. Theyll have no choice but to raise the prices. They cant keep it unlimited for the same rate or theyd go out of business.

 

[beof]

These muthafuckin carriers just rippin us all off (except metropcs).

 

[Ryokurin]

Yea. The ITU said LTE wasn't 4G on December 6. But they changed their mind December 18. http://www.intomobile.com/2010/12/18/itu-reverses-its-decision-lte-wimax-and-hspa-are-now-4g/

No one is going to have a 100 megabit network anytime soon so it's pointless arguing about what is 'true' 4G or not. People doing this are like the people who kept pointing out that the year 2001 was the real beginning of the millennium, No one cared.

 

[thundercat]