Are niggas out here really depressed like that??

Yes, but they want to control all that. Growing it recreationally isn't allowed.

I had two legal guns, not connected to me growing the weed, just trying to learn how to shoot. I didn't shoot much in the Navy, so in talking to y'all and Isaiah Washington on twitter, y'all said I needed to arm up because shits getting bad out here (as he said, "Marines aren't gonna save you in the civilian world. You need to get you a piece and learn how to use it in a phone booth"

They tied that shit in. So in exchange for me not asking to re-weigh the weed, they dropped the gun charge which was mandatory time

Lawyer said prosecutors aren't seeking jail, but they want to stick me with a felony still. I'm not a threat, though but they dont GAF
anything to add to black crime stats and their prosecution numbers :smh: :smh: :smh: :smh: ...motherfuckers got to justify their jobs
 
I'm recently divorced and having dealt with the wife over the past 5 years was a headache, but it was my headache. There were times where I was like, I don't want to do this anymore but at the end of the day, just wanted to love on my wife. Now that things are final and having to rebuild, shit is hard. It's a daily grind to get up and be productive and not be in my feelings. Working out helps, talking to friends about the issue helps but miss that person at the end of the day.

Recently took up gardening and (like many have pointed out) is an amazing thing to take care of something and watch it grow. Get a sense of an accomplishment. Like @BlackGoku and @geechiedan said, the board used to be a spot where you were ocked for expressing yourself. If you were, others wouldn't want to express themselves for fear of same shit happening. We need this particular posts for people to just vent. It's easy to get lost in work or whatever when shit was open. Now, forced to deal with shit or new shit hitting you like body shots. Similar situation happened and in true form, an old head stepped up and gave some advice. So if I see your shit and you seem like you going through it, I'll offer whatever words I can. I really don't know any of you but, you guys are like people I'd see around and genuinely care about your well-being.

So in all, (I know it will take a hell of a lot more) but take things a day at a time. To many times: we look to the past to figure out what went wrong and if we could've, would've or should've done things different; look at our present circumstances as life going forward and it will not change; or to the future and what that will be instead of living in the moment each day and making the most of that day. Seek some sort of counseling but like @geechiedan said, make sure you're getting some sort of feedback. You may be supermen in your own lives and at home, but even Clark needed to recharge or just be Clark at some point.

@godofwine and anyone else going through it, keep your head up. We all have our different versions of hell we created and demons to deal with. But keep fighting and keep swinging. Good things have to return to you if you put good into the universe.
 
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Look everybody, MENTAL ILLNESS IS REAL - especially with us, and especially in these crazy times!

Reaching out to others to seeing how they're doing is extremely important - especially now!

If you feel isolated, reach out to someone who you feel comfortable with. Don't keep sliding further down into a dark place!

I want everybody here to make it through this, and hopefully lay the groundwork for improving our mental health - with improved mental and physical health, we will be strong enough to tackle and deal with other issues!
 
Honestly, I thought I was dealing with depression late last year because I was struggling in an academic environment. My girl explained to me that I was suffering from “imposter syndrome”. She was right.
This is real. Even after 13 years after my PhD, numerous publications, and starting my own company, I sometimes get a hit of the "imposter syndrome". It is pure fuckeries, you just gotta push through it/
 
Isolation. Being excluded by society in general will do it to you.
I respectfully disagree with this.

I dealt with a bout of this in my younger days, and being excluded from society was actually the key to coming out of depression. My homey is a mental health advisor and we chop it up all the time. He always says that unplugging from everything for a bit, is the reset to shifting back to neutral. I realized early on that this faux society, all the keeping up with the joneses, and consumerism is complete and utter bullshit and it IS the problem. Society has more times than not, been the root issue with depression, and it compounds every single day if you allow it to.

Its a sick and toxic culture that only cares about what you can produce for it, and if you allow it to sway your opinion and eat you up, from childhood to and elderly age, it will.

Chappelle broke it down crystal clear with James Lipton once:

 
I disagree with this. I dealt with a bout of this in my younger days, and being excluded from society was actually the key to coming out of depression. My homey is a mental health advisor and we chop it up all the time. He always says that unplugging from everything for a bit, is the reset to shifting back to neutral. I realized early on that this faux society, all the keeping up with the joneses, and consumerism is complete and utter bullshit and it IS the problem. Society has more times than not, been the root issue with depression, and it compounds every single day if you allow it to.

Its a sick and toxic culture that only cares about what you can produce for it, and if you allow it to sway your opinion and eat you up, from childhood to and elderly age, it will.

Chappelle broke it down crystal clear with James Lipton once:


not all types of isolation is the same.... self-imposed isolation is waaaay different from exclusion imposed by others...

Human beings are animals just like every other animal on the planet but our intellect and self-awareness makes us arrogantly believe we not like other animals. But we ARE... we're SOCIAL ANIMALS like lions, elephants and other primates. We NEED each other and to be around each other. And the worst punishment you can give to a social animal is isolation and exclusion. That's why it's used as the ultimate form of punishment...you see examples of it every day.

  • When you fuck up at your house, your parents send you to your room (isolation)
  • you get detention in school (isolation)
  • congregations shun individuals who cross the church. (exclusion)
  • In religious mythology, you see it repeatedly... Lucifer rebels against God and gets expelled from heaven. (exclusion)
  • The concept of hell itself is the ultimate punishment..which is to be cast away from God's presence and grace. (exclusion)
  • You fuck up in society you go to jail (exclusion)
  • and if you fuck up in jail what do they do to you...SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. (isolation) A punishment so bad that some people have to go on suicide watch because even in a place full of rapists and murderers... if you're removed from the company of other scumbags you MAY get depressed and kill yourself...
We (humans) NEED to feel like others care about us and we NEED that social contact. Like literally or we literally get sick and die. Nazis and sick doctors in Europe and the US did experiments on people just to see what happens when babies, small children and adults are isolated and not given social contact. Babies got sick and died and older humans developed psyche issues and physical illness.

Ever wonder why the internet grew so quickly and how deep shit got to be with just cyber communication? People want to socialize so much we'll take VIRTUAL CONTACT in the absence of real contact.

People say no one talks to each other...that's not true people talk to each other ALL THE TIME...its HOW that communication is done that's different.
 
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I’ve had severe anxiety for a long time which can lead to depression as well. To be honest my bad habits get me through it. Drinking smoking and gambling seem to help. Sounds crazy but it does. :lol: Got me some serious financial issues though. I just don’t give a fuck.That’s also one of the reasons why I downplay this coronavirus shit. If I let it get to my head too much, it would drive me crazy. So people think I’m just ignorant to the fact that this thing is serious, I’m not. I’m just not gonna let it freak me out. You dig?
 
Yes, but they want to control all that. Growing it recreationally isn't allowed.

I had two legal guns, not connected to me growing the weed, just trying to learn how to shoot. I didn't shoot much in the Navy, so in talking to y'all and Isaiah Washington on twitter, y'all said I needed to arm up because shits getting bad out here (as he said, "Marines aren't gonna save you in the civilian world. You need to get you a piece and learn how to use it in a phone booth"

They tied that shit in. So in exchange for me not asking to re-weigh the weed, they dropped the gun charge which was mandatory time

Lawyer said prosecutors aren't seeking jail, but they want to stick me with a felony still. I'm not a threat, though but they dont GAF

Have you considered growing other vegetables outside ? It sounds like you actually had a grow light on in the house 24/7 and that was causing an alert to your llight company? Is this the case?
 
godofwine sounds like you needed to have a child in your life or start a bizz.. That watching it grow sounded like you was looking to accomplish something that you started and made progress..that's a mentality of a person wAnting to start a bizz or create life... Hell some people might have said you should buy a pet

What you looking for is motivation.. A reason to keep striving... There's things you want to do but for whatever reason things keep holding you back.. You probably will say finances to get things started but the reality is you never looked into alternative routes to start.. I tend to specialize in motivating individuals who have that mindset and encourage them to start even when odds are against them.. My favorite thing I like to say to people is if I told you that I'll give you a million dollars if you made a shot from the 3 point range you more likely would attempt to shoot it cause the reward is significant and you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.. But guess what if you never shoot the ball you won't even have the ability to gain... Most people with ideas, concepts, products never shoot the shot and that's why they never succeed... They doubt themselves so much they don't even attempt ... Odds of them making it might not be in their favor but it's better than zero percent which is what you have by not shooting

So you claim you have scripts, stories, etc.. As I told certain individuals who have let's say progress in similar routes.. There's this whole thing called audio books.. People receive info in many formats in modern day times and listening to it is 1 of the new ways people have gravitated towards.. Actual reading is still good but more people like to hear stories ... Now with things like the internet you can even throw in video to add on to the audio to give it a full experience... So hearing and visuals play a new key role in today's society of info and story telling.. There's a whole build in audience on youtube... Take 1 of your stories of maybe 2 and put it in audio form(possibly visual if you can) and put it out there in YouTube land maybe even ig.. See your feedback.. This possibly can start your engine and might be the motivation you looking for.. The feedback you might get can encourage you to do more and this could be the calling card you was looking for... By the way if enough people watch you can actually generate money from this... This could be the shot for that million dollars.. Question is are you gonna attempt it or are you gonna just hold the ball and miss out on that million.. Ball is in your hand now what are you going to do with it
 
This is real. Even after 13 years after my PhD, numerous publications, and starting my own company, I sometimes get a hit of the "imposter syndrome". It is pure fuckeries, you just gotta push through it/
What’s the imposter syndrome?
 
Kats in the hood be going through real-life fuck up situations but talking about your problems (especially for us males) is frown upon and looked at as a weakness.
It's sad seeing grown-ass men still trying to hold on to the street codes, allowing others to pressure them into acting the way they expect them to act, even at the price of their sanity.
What's sadder is half of the people they try to impress are just as fucked up, if not worse than them.
 
Yeah, man. I got it bad. . Trying to fight thru it, but its tough. I'm not suicidal, but it's hard finding a reason to get out if bed in the morning. I'm on autopilot most times.

I got a situation with the law I'm hoping doesn't fuck me. Grew weed, not for any reason but to watch it grow. I didn't smoke it. Didn't sell it, but watching it grow gave me a feeling like, "I did that. It looks great"

I did find that the leaves from either the male or the female plant work really well in tea oh, and it helps you sleep. Just add some honey

I had one plant that was 8 feet tall, another that was 7 ft. Unfortunately they were both males so I chopped them, but adding 5 dozen whole eggs and a case of banana peels to the soil helped them grow like that. Half of the peels I put in the blender, to add nutrients sooner, while the rest would slow release.

It was really cool.

Didn't think I was hurting anyone or anything. Didn't know they'd throw a cultivation charge at me like I was Walter White.

I was just trying to cope.

It's hard, man. Just sadness like a fucking cloud.

I try to pretend I'm alright, but I'm struggling. I had to drop 25k on a lawyer. I just go money after refinancing my house to get out of debt and had to drop it on that? Just under half my annual salary.

I was JUST good. I had the Bill's paid and then...BOOM, this shit

They don't have veterans court in my city like they do in Akron or Cleveland, so they trying to hit me with an F2.

I'm like...man, what the fuck were you thinking? But I know why I did it. It doesn't make sense, but that's why I did it. Just trying to find a reason to get out of bed.

I know. Dumb fuck thing to do, but you'd be surprised shit people do just trying to cope with life. Just being unmotivated to do anything. Been sitting on these novels I'm trying to write for half a decade...shit, man. I cannot focus
That's some real spit there Chief! Stay strong my brother, I feel your struggle! What we need is a black male support group where we can talk things over and look for solutions as a collective. But as a collective, we are way too selfish and care about bullshit stories like Takashi 69 snitching over what's really going on in our 'hoods.
 
Kats in the hood be going through real-life fuck up situations but talking about your problems (especially for us males) is frown upon and looked at as a weakness.
It's sad seeing grown-ass men still trying to hold on to the street codes, allowing others to pressure them into acting the way they expect them to act, even at the price of their sanity.
What's sadder is half of the people they try to impress are just as fucked up, if not worse than them.
misery loves company
 
not all types of isolation is the same.... self-imposed isolation is waaaay different from exclusion imposed by others...

Human beings are animals just like every other animal on the planet but our intellect and self-awareness makes us arrogantly believe we not like other animals. But we ARE... we're SOCIAL ANIMALS like lions, elephants and other primates. We NEED each other and to be around each other. And the worst punishment you can give to a social animal is isolation and exclusion. That's why it's used as the ultimate form of punishment...you see examples of it every day.

  • When you fuck up at your house, your parents send you to your room (isolation)
  • you get detention in school (isolation)
  • congregations shun individuals who cross the church. (exclusion)
  • In religious mythology, you see it repeatedly... Lucifer rebels against God and gets expelled from heaven. (exclusion)
  • The concept of hell itself is the ultimate punishment..which is to be cast away from God's presence and grace. (exclusion)
  • You fuck in society you go to jail (exclusion)
  • and if you fuck up in jail what do they do to you...SOLITARY CONFINEMENT. (isolation) A punishment so bad that some people have to go on suicide watch because even in a place full of rapists and murderers... if you're removed from the company of other scumbags you MAY get depressed and kill yourself...
We (humans) NEED to feel like others care about us and we NEED that social contact. Like literally or we literally get sick and die. Nazis and sick doctors in Europe and the US did experiments on people just to see what happens when babies, small children and adults are isolated and not given social contact. Babies got sick and died and older humans developed psyche issues and physical illness.

Ever wonder why the internet grew so quickly and how deep shit got to be with just cyber communication? People want to socialize so much we'll take VIRTUAL CONTACT in the absence of real contact.

People say no one talks to each other...that's not true people talk to each other ALL THE TIME...its HOW that communication is done that's different.

And this is a fair point. Certain aspects of society are necessary and I'm not saying they aren't, however, we've long been past the boiling point of what's needed and what should be disregarded. Most who praise Hollywood, Athletes, Entertainers, etc, can't draw the line of distinction between the two and that's a huge problem for many people.

Sure, communication is absolutely needed, but that's usually where it ends as far as NEEDS go.

Everything else is in excess.
 
Yeah, man. I got it bad. . Trying to fight thru it, but its tough. I'm not suicidal, but it's hard finding a reason to get out if bed in the morning. I'm on autopilot most times.

I got a situation with the law I'm hoping doesn't fuck me. Grew weed, not for any reason but to watch it grow. I didn't smoke it. Didn't sell it, but watching it grow gave me a feeling like, "I did that. It looks great"

I did find that the leaves from either the male or the female plant work really well in tea oh, and it helps you sleep. Just add some honey

I had one plant that was 8 feet tall, another that was 7 ft. Unfortunately they were both males so I chopped them, but adding 5 dozen whole eggs and a case of banana peels to the soil helped them grow like that. Half of the peels I put in the blender, to add nutrients sooner, while the rest would slow release.

It was really cool.

Didn't think I was hurting anyone or anything. Didn't know they'd throw a cultivation charge at me like I was Walter White.

I was just trying to cope.

It's hard, man. Just sadness like a fucking cloud.

I try to pretend I'm alright, but I'm struggling. I had to drop 25k on a lawyer. I just go money after refinancing my house to get out of debt and had to drop it on that? Just under half my annual salary.

I was JUST good. I had the Bill's paid and then...BOOM, this shit

They don't have veterans court in my city like they do in Akron or Cleveland, so they trying to hit me with an F2.

I'm like...man, what the fuck were you thinking? But I know why I did it. It doesn't make sense, but that's why I did it. Just trying to find a reason to get out of bed.

I know. Dumb fuck thing to do, but you'd be surprised shit people do just trying to cope with life. Just being unmotivated to do anything. Been sitting on these novels I'm trying to write for half a decade...shit, man. I cannot focus
Yes, but they want to control all that. Growing it recreationally isn't allowed.

I had two legal guns, not connected to me growing the weed, just trying to learn how to shoot. I didn't shoot much in the Navy, so in talking to y'all and Isaiah Washington on twitter, y'all said I needed to arm up because shits getting bad out here (as he said, "Marines aren't gonna save you in the civilian world. You need to get you a piece and learn how to use it in a phone booth"

They tied that shit in. So in exchange for me not asking to re-weigh the weed, they dropped the gun charge which was mandatory time

Lawyer said prosecutors aren't seeking jail, but they want to stick me with a felony still. I'm not a threat, though but they dont GAF
Jesus christ man. I'm depressed just reading that shit. Sound like they going to plead you down from mandatory time to eat a felony. The guns were just yet another mandatory time case they threw at you so you would be forced to eat the weed case and a fine/costs. :smh: They know you can't take this shit to the box.

The criminal injustice system in this country ain't shit. And you're a veteran getting treated like this. It's just sad folks looking at mandatory time over weed cases in 2020.
 
Man it sound like you wanted to grow WEED. That just wanted to watch grow shit is Bs. You could’ve easily got seeds to grow a variety plants to Watch them grow, some that could’ve been used for medicinal Purposes.
Actually, I was intrigued by the challenge of it. I've heard it was difficult. I had a garden for years and, like Andy Dufresne in Shawshank Redemption, I looked for a new challenge. Was it wise, no. But that was the reason for it.

It was me, not knowing anything about it, how could I do with it? Could I do it right.
 
Have you considered growing other vegetables outside ? It sounds like you actually had a grow light on in the house 24/7 and that was causing an alert to your llight company? Is this the case?
I was growing vegetables outside. Just wanted a different challenge. I grew the weed outside, too
 
Man it sound like you wanted to grow WEED. That just wanted to watch grow shit is Bs. You could’ve easily got seeds to grow a variety plants to Watch them grow, some that could’ve been used for medicinal Purposes.
I have no idea what dude's true motivation was...but just reading it, it does sound like he just wanted to grow some weed...regardless he got himself into some shit that seems like some over the top, over zealous policing, AmeriKKKa war on drugs fuckery....GOW you are a creative...channel this bullshit into something great...it would make for some interesting reading

Edit...I see you just explained it
 
I was growing vegetables outside. Just wanted a different challenge. I grew the weed outside, too
I grow herb as well. I have strains of Durban Poison, AK-47, Blue Dream, Neville’s Haze and Afghani Skunk.

What kind did you have?
 
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I would like to get @HNIC opinion on the subject...theres a health and fitness subforum but an actual mental health section...should there be??
 
See 'em. Dap it up. Keep it moving.

In most cases, the past is not worth revisiting nor discussing. Move on, bruh.
Don't let other's states of being occupy real estate in your mind.

like the saying goes..

its the PAST for a reason...

aint no time to look back, too much shit to see

and do going forward....
 
Actually, I was intrigued by the challenge of it. I've heard it was difficult. I had a garden for years and, like Andy Dufresne in Shawshank Redemption, I looked for a new challenge. Was it wise, no. But that was the reason for it.

It was me, not knowing anything about it, how could I do with it? Could I do it right.

One thing most people dont consider is the smell of the plants, this is a big no no if you live in a apartment complex.
 
everybody goes through these emotions. that is just the human way.
find the reason you feel down and you will go up.
 
Yeah, man. I got it bad. . Trying to fight thru it, but its tough. I'm not suicidal, but it's hard finding a reason to get out if bed in the morning. I'm on autopilot most times.

I got a situation with the law I'm hoping doesn't fuck me. Grew weed, not for any reason but to watch it grow. I didn't smoke it. Didn't sell it, but watching it grow gave me a feeling like, "I did that. It looks great"

I did find that the leaves from either the male or the female plant work really well in tea oh, and it helps you sleep. Just add some honey

I had one plant that was 8 feet tall, another that was 7 ft. Unfortunately they were both males so I chopped them, but adding 5 dozen whole eggs and a case of banana peels to the soil helped them grow like that. Half of the peels I put in the blender, to add nutrients sooner, while the rest would slow release.

It was really cool.

Didn't think I was hurting anyone or anything. Didn't know they'd throw a cultivation charge at me like I was Walter White.

I was just trying to cope.

It's hard, man. Just sadness like a fucking cloud.

I try to pretend I'm alright, but I'm struggling. I had to drop 25k on a lawyer. I just go money after refinancing my house to get out of debt and had to drop it on that? Just under half my annual salary.

I was JUST good. I had the Bill's paid and then...BOOM, this shit

They don't have veterans court in my city like they do in Akron or Cleveland, so they trying to hit me with an F2.

I'm like...man, what the fuck were you thinking? But I know why I did it. It doesn't make sense, but that's why I did it. Just trying to find a reason to get out of bed.

I know. Dumb fuck thing to do, but you'd be surprised shit people do just trying to cope with life. Just being unmotivated to do anything. Been sitting on these novels I'm trying to write for half a decade...shit, man. I cannot focus
Try fasting praying and some amnesththy stones.

You have a negative vibration and the spirit within those stones when charged in sunlight can really help.

And stay in prayer
 
Funny this thread popped up just finish talking to 1 of my boys in front of my building.. He definitely had a defeatist attitude just now.. I had to give him the bball analogy to and he was trying to give me all the excuses in the world not to shoot... That liqs and weed getting the best of him fucking with his brain plus he already got an easily get aggravated personality... Funny how 1 of our boys passed by as we spoke who started his own bizz and is doing pretty good.. I said see there goes a shooter right there, he wasnt scared to shoot and now look at him... Feel bad for my boy cause he was 1 of the dudes who decided to roll with diff people several yrs back and it pretty much made him worst.. I didn't do vices and they did and he started getting into vices and well started chilling with them more... It's crazy how once a good amount of people stopped running with me started using vices a lot..it's 1 of those why I see why a lot of my friends parents always liked me cause most of the time our hanging out was vice free and they always was in better moods.. Than once they stop chilling their parents would get mad they don't hang out with me as much and they start getting into dumbshit
 
Could be some truth to it when you factor in all the struggles black men deal with already whether it be from the outside world or amongst our own. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an upsurge. Humans need interaction with life forms it’s in our DNA, whether you believe it or not.

Everyone needs someone to talk/relate to. Remember Wilson from Cast Away. Tom Hanks damn near lost his mind when he lost Wilson
 
Could be some truth to it when you factor in all the struggles black men deal with already whether it be from the outside world or amongst our own. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was an upsurge. Humans need interaction with life forms it’s in our DNA, whether you believe it or not.

Remember Wilson from Cast Away. Tom Hanks damn near lost his mind when he lost Wilson
Def agree with that last sentence that's why when so many people were ready to easily conform I was like fuck that shit.. They asking people to go against nature and to be anti-human... Social distance and being confined is not natural human shit.. There's a reason why circus are pretty much over now cause forcing animals to be confined is not natural.. It's why animals were revolting and attacking trainers..shits not normal.. This whole social distance crap is another crime against nature.. Tell a fish to not swim, a bird not to fly, a shark not to eat meat.. They going against nature and that shit always backfire.. Never go against nature and never go against math... They destroying the human code and society feeling the efrects.. It's why I continue to breath fresh air, socialize with precaution
 
I grow herb as well. I have strains of Durban Poison, AK-47, Blue Dream, Neville’s Haze and Afghani Skunk.

What kind did you have?
I didn't have it classified, but purple leaves was one, I dont know about the rest. Guess I'll never know now
 
Most cats that I grew up with that never did anything with their lives look totally depressed. I grew up in Lefrak City Queens from 17-21. Most street cats out there still living in their mothers cribs or work as janitors or fast food workers. I can't even spend 5 mins on the block out there because I just feel uncomfortable being out there.
 
godofwine I have taken your experience to heart and owe you a tremendous debt of gratitude for helping me avoid the same fate. I also live in OH and absolutely love to grow stuff, I've grow everything from all kinds of vegetables, fruits, ornamental plants, and even nuts. I honestly understand that compulsion. Like you I was chomping at the bit to grow weed. It's incredible because I haven't smoked since I was a kid, but also just wanted to see how good I'd be at it growing some. I even bought some seeds and planned to start this spring, but its been too cool. Now, your story has given me a reason to pause. I'm sorry the system is exploiting you for indulging your natural curiosity and passion for cultivation, but this is merica. I sincerely hope it works out for you against those devils.
 
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