Anyone Still Think Kobe Is Better Than Lebron?

The thing is Kobe never evolved his game. It's similar to the discussion of Allen Iverson not elevating his game as well and not being able to take it to the next level. I still think Jordan is the greastest basketball player I've ever seen.

Unlike Kobe and A.I. who mainly played to their strengths in natural talent and ability; Jordan evolved into an all around player-i.e. defensive player of the year, first-team all defense, scoring titles, MVP's, the list goes on... Additionally, Jordan is probably the greatest 2 guard to play in the triangle offense, because of his abitlity to develop a formidable post game. Whenever a game was tight Jordan was always able to post up and shoot his patented fadeaway jumper.

In tight situations Kobe doesn't compare to Jordan. Kobe still hasn't developed his game to a level where he can dominate the game while controling the tempo of the game. In tight situations Kobe 9 out 10 times is chucking the ball or making a erratic decision. Jordan on the other hand, dominated and controled the tempo of the game because of his fadeaway jumber, and because he played great defense in crunch time-i.e.Jordan stealing the ball from Malone in the 6th game of the finals in 1998.

LeBron is the most impressive ball player in the new millenium, and if he is able to win the championship this year, we will all be witnesses to the comming of the crowned King of Basketball. Unlike A.I. and Kobe, LeBron is able to leaverage his raw skill and ability with high basketball IQ. LeBron has what Jordan and all the greats in Basketbal have, and that is the abiltiy to both dominate the game with raw talent and ability and to have the experience and B-ball IQ to control the tempo of the game.


this is biblical. even duke's coach said something similar on espn talking about lebron. he said dude is really right and humble - traits of a great leader. teammates like him because lebron doesn't think he's better than them just cause he's a better baller. next - dude said that lebron understood the game efore he could articulate it in words and on the court. once he was able to talk the talk and be the out - all he needed was the pieces around him.

to be short - the thing that's making lebron greater than kobe - is his brain.

because kobe's sole contribution has often been athletic - he's only as useful as his knees and his jump shot and his explosiveness have to offer. jordan was great almost until the end - even without having great athleticism anymore.

the thing to remember is that basketball strategically is not a hard game. it's actually a pretty simple game. once you figure out what to do and when to do it - and then like lebron you have the physical gifts to pull it off - game done.
 
Better scorer: Kobe
Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe
Better 3 point shot: Kobe
Better at creating their own shot: Kobe
Better at tucking the ball like it's 4 and goal and taking everybody to the rim when he's dunking: Lebron James

Add Better Free Throw Shooter: Kobe

Lebron has the better supporting cast, though. Kobe is better at more things than LeBron...but he has like 7 years on him. LeBron is better after 5 seasons than Kobe was.
 
yall also forgettin that kobe is 30 and lebron is 24. that age is catchin up to him...
 
Better scorer: Kobe:smh:
Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe:smh:
Better 3 point shot: Kobe:confused: (Don't sleep LeBron came up with that!)
Better at creating their own shot: Kobe:smh:
Better at chucking the ball Kobe:yes:
Better at every other stat known to mankind LeBron :yes:
 
Better scorer: Kobe:smh:
Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe:smh:
Better 3 point shot: Kobe:confused: (Don't sleep LeBron came up with that!)Better at creating their own shot: Kobe:smh:
Better at chucking the ball Kobe:yes:
Better at every other stat known to mankind LeBron :yes:

he a borderline assassin wit that:yes:
 

I know he does

But Kobe has a more polished and complete offensive game and I think Kobe can still go for 35 a night if he really wanted to. Kobe can flat out score the basketball.

But I see what you're saying, it is very comparable.

You right! Kobe can go for 35 a night but remember his team always goes out of sync. As for Bron, he can go for 35 a night as well but his team for the most times stay in sync. I am telling as a Laker fan, if they continue to play like this and somehow make it to the finals, then Bron will probably end up with the championship. Real talk! Lebron is playing on another level right now. i see Cavs easily dismantling the Celtics in 5 games.

The lakers will have a tough time with the Nuggets if they can get past the Rockets...
 
Add Better Free Throw Shooter: Kobe

Lebron has the better supporting cast, though. Kobe is better at more things than LeBron...but he has like 7 years on him. LeBron is better after 5 seasons than Kobe was.

LeBron leadership makes his teammates better, while Kobe's sulky disposition, especially when things get tough, makes the Lakers seem disconnected! Remember teams usually take on the personality of their team leader, and the Cavs look and are playing like champs, while the Lakers look more like they are afraid to lose rather than a team that is trying to win anything.
LeBron is a natural born leader, and Kobe is more of a me first player!
If James keep this up, its going to be hard for anyone to win another MVP for a long while.
 
Better scorer: Kobe
Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe
Better 3 point shot: Kobe
Better at creating their own shot: Kobe
Better at tucking the ball like it's 4 and goal and taking everybody to the rim when he's dunking: Lebron James

That's it in a nutshell


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1990. He took an L too.

Yep. Also in 1992... W vs NY and in 1998... W vs. IND

Add Better Free Throw Shooter: Kobe

Lebron has the better supporting cast, though. Kobe is better at more things than LeBron...but he has like 7 years on him. LeBron is better after 5 seasons than Kobe was.

Co-sizzle.
 
Better scorer: Kobe
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Nope

Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe
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Are you crazy!

Better 3 point shot: Kobe
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When I make them.

Better at creating their own shot: Kobe
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Do LeBrons Dunks count?

Better at Chucking the ball.
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My Man!​
 
Better scorer: Kobe
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Nope

Better Defender (one on one & double teaming): Kobe
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Are you crazy!

Better 3 point shot: Kobe
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When I make them.

Better at creating their own shot: Kobe
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Do LeBrons Dunks count?

Better at Chucking the ball.
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My Man!​

RR, I disagree but... :roflmao:
 
i used to play a lot of street ball. one time playing in west 4th - i'm like 21 - my eyes opened for the 1st time - I seen these 28-29 year old dudes with the old man pigeon toed basketball walk. it dawned on me that their knees were fucked up - they were walking gingerly. that day I scored 29 pts in a game - announced my retirement - and put myself out to stud. fuck that shit. :smh:
Kobe is already tipping around like an old man. You see how he runs now. It's crazy because I still remember the 18 year old Kobe like it was yesterday. Kobe even walks like his knees hurt just like Jordan did toward the end of his career. It actually shows just how much more skilled Kobe is than most players that he can still blow by his defender when he chooses to with subtle hesitation and pump fakes.

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Lebron has the better supporting cast, though.
The Fuck!?! :smh: You have got to be kidding me. :lol: Cavs have some nice player, but their problem always comes down to scoring. If LeBron doesn't have a monster night the Cavs lose to elite teams, especially on the road. Lakers have no problem putting points on the board. Lakers problem is that they don't have a very smart point guard to distribute the ball and lead the offense.
 
Jordan fanboys in the thread

ths is like when people was saying 50 Cent was better than Jay-Z (don't front like ya'll forget)

LeBron and Wade might be the future but Kobe is now. Lebron ain't faced no adversity yet and you gonna give him the crown just for winning the MVP??

Okay Lebron is better than Kobe and he got no rings, so how is Kobe with 3 less rings not "even close" to better than Jordan?

Kobe is doing 30ppg after 13+ years, only one other guard is even close


ASK LEBRON HE'LL TELL YOU DICKRYDERS WHAT'S GUUD
 
Jordan fanboys in the thread

ths is like when people was saying 50 Cent was better than Jay-Z (don't front like ya'll forget)

LeBron and Wade might be the future but Kobe is now. Lebron ain't faced no adversity yet and you gonna give him the crown just for winning the MVP??

Okay Lebron is better than Kobe and he got no rings, so how is Kobe with 3 less rings not "even close" to better than Jordan?

Kobe is doing 30ppg after 13+ years, only one other guard is even close


ASK LEBRON HE'LL TELL YOU DICKRYDERS WHAT'S GUUD

:hmm:
i dont even know where to start...
 
Okay Lebron is better than Kobe and he got no rings, so how is Kobe with 3 less rings not "even close" to better than Jordan?
Based on that logic I'm more than twice the ball player Kobe is!
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See this is what it is:

Lebron and his team are playing world class ball right now - Lebron is looking like he is the best scorer out there today, which no one can argue but his game is really sloppy - he needs at lest 2 years to develop a 50%+accurate 15-20 footer to be unstoppable. And you gotta win a ring.

Kobe is grfeatness right now, and it is sad that you guys can't see it till he's gone...you are witnessing a Hall of Fame legend. Unless he gets seriously injured REPEATEDLY in the next 3 years everyone how do you figure he will stop tearing up records?? I think he will be 18-19 years deep putting up 20 a game, easy
 

Based on that logic I'm more than twice the ball player Kobe is!
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:lol:you musta just woke up outta a 10 year coma...people saying Kobe can't be compared to Jordan till he wins 6 rings like Jordan did. So unless you are really bad at agreeing with me you failed.:lol:
 
See this is what it is:

Lebron and his team are playing world class ball right now - Lebron is looking like he is the best scorer out there today, which no one can argue but his game is really sloppy - he needs at lest 2 years to develop a 50%+accurate 15-20 footer to be unstoppable. And you gotta win a ring.

Kobe is grfeatness right now, and it is sad that you guys can't see it till he's gone...you are witnessing a Hall of Fame legend. Unless he gets seriously injured REPEATEDLY in the next 3 years everyone how do you figure he will stop tearing up records?? I think he will be 18-19 years deep putting up 20 a game, easy
Until Kobe wins with out Shaq he is going to be known as a slightly improved Penny 2.0!
Tell me this about Kobe, when was the last time the Lakers won a game they should have lost?
When was the last time Kobe won a big game by coming up big in the 4th quarter? To win a big playoff game?
What is the defining moment of his playoff career that don't include Shaq. (can you even think of one)
How many MVP has he won?
How many NBA final MVP has he won?
If you take away the Shaq years LeBron has done more in career at 24 than Kobe has done all his years!
Plus his records are going to be worth less, cause LeBron is poised to break each and ever one of them!
 
The thing is Kobe never evolved his game. It's similar to the discussion of Allen Iverson not elevating his game as well and not being able to take it to the next level. I still think Jordan is the greastest basketball player I've ever seen.

Unlike Kobe and A.I. who mainly played to their strengths in natural talent and ability; Jordan evolved into an all around player-i.e. defensive player of the year, first-team all defense, scoring titles, MVP's, the list goes on... Additionally, Jordan is probably the greatest 2 guard to play in the triangle offense, because of his abitlity to develop a formidable post game. Whenever a game was tight Jordan was always able to post up and shoot his patented fadeaway jumper.

In tight situations Kobe doesn't compare to Jordan. Kobe still hasn't developed his game to a level where he can dominate the game while controling the tempo of the game. In tight situations Kobe 9 out 10 times is chucking the ball or making a erratic decision. Jordan on the other hand, dominated and controled the tempo of the game because of his fadeaway jumber, and because he played great defense in crunch time-i.e.Jordan stealing the ball from Malone in the 6th game of the finals in 1998.

LeBron is the most impressive ball player in the new millenium, and if he is able to win the championship this year, we will all be witnesses to the comming of the crowned King of Basketball. Unlike A.I. and Kobe, LeBron is able to leaverage his raw skill and ability with high basketball IQ. LeBron has what Jordan and all the greats in Basketbal have, and that is the abiltiy to both dominate the game with raw talent and ability and to have the experience and B-ball IQ to control the tempo of the game.

yeah that about sums it up.

kobe is an alltime great. but lebron has a shot to be the GOAT. big difference.
 
:lol:you musta just woke up outta a 10 year coma...people saying Kobe can't be compared to Jordan till he wins 6 rings like Jordan did. So unless you are really bad at agreeing with me you failed.:lol:

Ummm Kobe can't be compared to Jordan cause Jordan is way better than him! Point blank! Jordan won 6 titles two three peats and could have won 8 strait if he didn't take off for two years in between!
Both Jordan and LeBron doses something Kobe has never been able to do, and that's make his team play better! With Kobe, if it isn't a blow away, and they are down in a close game, chances are they will choke and lose! Jordan on the other hand would never lost the big close games!
 
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The thing is Kobe never evolved his game. It's similar to the discussion of Allen Iverson not elevating his game as well and not being able to take it to the next level. I still think Jordan is the greastest basketball player I've ever seen.

Unlike Kobe and A.I. who mainly played to their strengths in natural talent and ability; Jordan evolved into an all around player-i.e. defensive player of the year, first-team all defense, scoring titles, MVP's, the list goes on... Additionally, Jordan is probably the greatest 2 guard to play in the triangle offense, because of his abitlity to develop a formidable post game. Whenever a game was tight Jordan was always able to post up and shoot his patented fadeaway jumper.

In tight situations Kobe doesn't compare to Jordan. Kobe still hasn't developed his game to a level where he can dominate the game while controling the tempo of the game. In tight situations Kobe 9 out 10 times is chucking the ball or making a erratic decision. Jordan on the other hand, dominated and controled the tempo of the game because of his fadeaway jumber, and because he played great defense in crunch time-i.e.Jordan stealing the ball from Malone in the 6th game of the finals in 1998.

LeBron is the most impressive ball player in the new millenium, and if he is able to win the championship this year, we will all be witnesses to the comming of the crowned King of Basketball. Unlike A.I. and Kobe, LeBron is able to leaverage his raw skill and ability with high basketball IQ. LeBron has what Jordan and all the greats in Basketbal have, and that is the abiltiy to both dominate the game with raw talent and ability and to have the experience and B-ball IQ to control the tempo of the game.
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Until Kobe wins with out Shaq he is going to be known as a slightly improved Penny 2.0!
Tell me this about Kobe, when was the last time the Lakers won a game they should have lost?
When was the last time Kobe won a big game by coming up big in the 4th quarter? To win a big playoff game?
What is the defining moment of his playoff career that don't include Shaq. (can you even think of one)
How many MVP has he won?
How many NBA final MVP has he won?
If you take away the Shaq years LeBron has done more in career at 24 than Kobe has done all his years!
Plus his records are going to be worth less, cause LeBron is poised to break each and ever one of them!

These stats matter to you not to the hall of fame people or the 50 greatest players. Ask ANYBODY who plays in the NBA who lives the life Kobe is the best will be 9 out of 10 people. All those bs ESPN type nerd stats are good for nuffin.

All beat all them questions with this:
Ask all the living MVP winners who is the best player in the game today and all you hearing is Kobe.

Every time you say Lebron better you kinda implyin Kobe better than Jordan, cause Jordan ain't got the most all time scoring titles, championships, MVPs, most points, or steals, assists, or nothing.


bottom line
If Kobe's rings don't help him surpass Lebron

how can Jordan's help him surpass Kobe can u understand??
 
These stats matter to you not to the hall of fame people or the 50 greatest players. Ask ANYBODY who plays in the NBA who lives the life Kobe is the best will be 9 out of 10 people. All those bs ESPN type nerd stats are good for nuffin.

All beat all them questions with this:
Ask all the living MVP winners who is the best player in the game today and all you hearing is Kobe.

Every time you say Lebron better you kinda implyin Kobe better than Jordan, cause Jordan ain't got the most all time scoring titles, championships, MVPs, most points, or steals, assists, or nothing.


bottom line
If Kobe's rings don't help him surpass Lebron

how can Jordan's help him surpass Kobe can u understand??
I'm saying LeBron is better because he is smarter, he makes the people around him better, he shoots at a higher percentage, he has more blocks, more steals, scores more points, more assist, more rebounds, his team has a better regular season record, better post season record, and is the MVP by a landslide.
But imagine Jordan being even better than that!
 
A lot of young cats and fake fan overglamorize Jordan and his dominant career.

Jordan didn't have a fade away jumper until he came back and his knees were too old to jump over everyone. And he never had a outside 3pt shot - ever. Jordan never made anyone else great that's a myth - ask the Wizards and Bobcats

I'm saying LeBron is better because he is smarter, he makes the people around him better, he shoots at a higher percentage, he has more blocks, more steals, scores more points, more assist, more rebounds, his team has a better regular season record, better post season record, and is the MVP by a landslide.
But imagine Jordan being even better than that!

after one year? Wow.
 
Random MJ Stat # 357: MJ Never Had to Play a Game 7 in the Playoffs. :cool:

not true my brotha, Indiana made a 7th game 97-98 with Indiana losing of course. they were tired as shit that year MJ is the best to ever do it still... Kobe has no game of his own he's the greatest emulator though. Shit I'd have to give it to Lebron for just being original. he got his own shit ya dig!!! and to think all them jumpers Kobe shoot he have trouble with my hometown team, who always lets us down:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
A lot of young cats and fake fan overglamorize Jordan and his dominant career.

Jordan didn't have a fade away jumper until he came back and his knees were too old to jump over everyone. And he never had a outside shot ever. Jordan never made anyone else great
Ok I see the crack is kicking in now!:smh:
In your mind, you must really think that everyone, who thinks they know a thing or two about sport is really stupid, and you are the only one in the world that can see things for what they truly are.:smh:
Cause there is no one in there right mind who would co/sign to that bullshit you just said!
 
Ok I see the crack is kicking in now!:smh:
In your mind, you must really think that everyone, who thinks they know a thing or two about sport is really stupid, and you are the only one in the world that can see things for what they truly are.:smh:
Cause there is no one in there right mind who would co/sign to that bullshit you just said!

break it down with facts then

not opinions either I don't wanna know who sells more shoes at halftime or is better friends with Oprah
 
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