Any Screenwriters On The Board??

Thank you, Brother.

I have a lot of time in it already. But real talk, the story damn near wrote itself. I based around legends and folklore.

I thought about a situation, then I started to flesh it out. I actually had the ending before I had anything else. So I wrote the ending down (how I saw anyway). Then it was just a matter of making the beginning catch up.

I have a lot of exposition, so I'm working on that as I rewrite.
Heavy exposition makes sense both in terms of being relatively early/newer in the practice of writing in general (this is true not just for screen) but ALSO when working with legends and folklore. I know it’s a lot
Of SUPERNATURAL series fans on the board and they’ll remember “meta”-episodes calling out their writing cheats eg “just throw in an EXPLAINER…” lol

I say this to offer one last thought

Since SINNERS is being over discussed (not overrated at all imo. Just talked about AD NAUSEUM on and offline for generally good reason!) I can use it as a reference to where Coogler digested you could say all the folklore and legends into a story that was some super personal and grounded shit, not just rich in historical context but PERSONAL familial lineage context etc. He found the connections between all these inspirations; and while I know the “final draft” script (that say DP and producers etc first read) was significantly different from the Final Cut of the film we’ve now seen, all the elements where surely there in ways no one reading it - and surely Coogler himself as the storyteller - could have expected/imagined.

Writing as you know is draft after draft after draft. Like all professional storytelling. “The first draft of script is first cut of film; and not until Final Cut of film is that cut also the final draft of the script etc”

Writing and rewriting is essential.

My point I think distills down to - once you feel you’ve got a complete story/plot - beginning middle and that ending you wrote to catch up to…

Take the time to see as best you can where the folklore and legends can be reimagined not as exposition from characters but AS characters* for example. Personas etc that embody and express/convey the spirit/essence etc of the exposition in a way that propels the story fwd and takes the story if not the plot (or just some aspects of the plot) in unexpected directions. *and not just characters but set pieces and side missions/B-storylines, subplots etc

Don’t be afraid to fuck shit up. Once you’ve got that complete beginning middle end - it’s your safety net. You will always go back to it. But generally the goal for really creating stories that only YOU can… comes out of wildly experimenting on the complete body of work you initially create.

Sounds like you’re at that point or very close to it if not already in it.

Blessings as you keep knockin shit out!
 
Heavy exposition makes sense both in terms of being relatively early/newer in the practice of writing in general (this is true not just for screen) but ALSO when working with legends and folklore. I know it’s a lot
Of SUPERNATURAL series fans on the board and they’ll remember “meta”-episodes calling out their writing cheats eg “just throw in an EXPLAINER…” lol

I say this to offer one last thought

Since SINNERS is being over discussed (not overrated at all imo. Just talked about AD NAUSEUM on and offline for generally good reason!) I can use it as a reference to where Coogler digested you could say all the folklore and legends into a story that was some super personal and grounded shit, not just rich in historical context but PERSONAL familial lineage context etc. He found the connections between all these inspirations; and while I know the “final draft” script (that say DP and producers etc first read) was significantly different from the Final Cut of the film we’ve now seen, all the elements where surely there in ways no one reading it - and surely Coogler himself as the storyteller - could have expected/imagined.

Writing as you know is draft after draft after draft. Like all professional storytelling. “The first draft of script is first cut of film; and not until Final Cut of film is that cut also the final draft of the script etc”

Writing and rewriting is essential.

My point I think distills down to - once you feel you’ve got a complete story/plot - beginning middle and that ending you wrote to catch up to…

Take the time to see as best you can where the folklore and legends can be reimagined not as exposition from characters but AS characters* for example. Personas etc that embody and express/convey the spirit/essence etc of the exposition in a way that propels the story fwd and takes the story if not the plot (or just some aspects of the plot) in unexpected directions. *and not just characters but set pieces and side missions/B-storylines, subplots etc

Don’t be afraid to fuck shit up. Once you’ve got that complete beginning middle end - it’s your safety net. You will always go back to it. But generally the goal for really creating stories that only YOU can… comes out of wildly experimenting on the complete body of work you initially create.

Sounds like you’re at that point or very close to it if not already in it.

Blessings as you keep knockin shit out!
Thank you, Brother. I'm really appreciative of you and Raze. Both of you have given me a wealth of advice, along with other things to consider as I write the next draft.

It's a little difficult because I'm writing and learning at the same time. But, I'm enjoying the challenge for sure.
 
Thank you, Brother. I'm really appreciative of you and Raze. Both of you have given me a wealth of advice, along with other things to consider as I write the next draft.

It's a little difficult because I'm writing and learning at the same time. But, I'm enjoying the challenge for sure.
You seem to have the joy for it :laptop:

That’s what makes the difference.

I know what you mean practically as far as “learning” goes. And that does take some time and focus to get the skill/muscle memory like together.

But I try to remind all of us that really what takes focus and the right perspective and approach etc is understanding that nothing NOTHING is more valuable than Learning to Write FOR YOURSELF. Learning to write what YOU love in a way including a style that YOU love.

The discipline of writing can vary a bit, but ultimately from as early as a writer catches this “secret” until it’s just the experience they’ve built - writing for the joy and love of it and to experience in every writing session the joy and love of writing/creating/storytelling/world building etc… that is all always first and foremost an endeavor for yourself. Love it.

When I saw the convo between George RR Martin and Stephen King some years ago it was crazy how each man embodies to this day the HUGE issue you hear in writing circles — “writers love having written; they just hate writing”. I always hated that concept because it seemed so full of shit to a nigga who just enjoyed what I enjoy! I wasn’t tryna take on nobody’s pain :tut::thefinger::thumbsdown:

(I got plenty nuff pain. — This here is my OUTLET nigga!! Da fuk yall on?!?!)

King loves writing. Martin still struggles bec it seems he’s never learned to let his focus NOT be the end goal. It gets even harder when you’re a writer who maybe doesn’t love writing but def loves having written AND you’re as fuckin popular as that dude got!!! The pressure to feed the audience etc. In that interview and in many posts I’ve seen from Martin lol dude feels the pressure lmfao
 
You seem to have the joy for it :laptop:

That’s what makes the difference.

I know what you mean practically as far as “learning” goes. And that does take some time and focus to get the skill/muscle memory like together.

But I try to remind all of us that really what takes focus and the right perspective and approach etc is understanding that nothing NOTHING is more valuable than Learning to Write FOR YOURSELF. Learning to write what YOU love in a way including a style that YOU love.

The discipline of writing can vary a bit, but ultimately from as early as a writer catches this “secret” until it’s just the experience they’ve built - writing for the joy and love of it and to experience in every writing session the joy and love of writing/creating/storytelling/world building etc… that is all always first and foremost an endeavor for yourself. Love it.

When I saw the convo between George RR Martin and Stephen King some years ago it was crazy how each man embodies to this day the HUGE issue you hear in writing circles — “writers love having written; they just hate writing”. I always hated that concept because it seemed so full of shit to a nigga who just enjoyed what I enjoy! I wasn’t tryna take on nobody’s pain :tut::thefinger::thumbsdown:

(I got plenty nuff pain. — This here is my OUTLET nigga!! Da fuk yall on?!?!)

King loves writing. Martin still struggles bec it seems he’s never learned to let his focus NOT be the end goal. It gets even harder when you’re a writer who maybe doesn’t love writing but def loves having written AND you’re as fuckin popular as that dude got!!! The pressure to feed the audience etc. In that interview and in many posts I’ve seen from Martin lol dude feels the pressure lmfao
I've been told that I have a gift for storytelling. But, the rub for me now is how do I go from verbally telling a story... to writing a story (showing and not telling)?
 
Great question
“IP ownership; the blueprint… it’s by… :rolleyes2:

It's public domain for now, but Hollywood will try to change that in the near future. Character consistency isn't there yet.



AI video might hurt influencers and advertising folks first.

 
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