Any former jehovah witnesses on this board?

Born and raised. Left about 7 years ago. Actually I still believe in 90% of the teachings. Its just not for me. I'll deal with the consequences.
 
Everything you said hit me dead on. I left long before I was disfellowshipped. The beliefs themselves I can't deny being the truth, the issue of needing to feel more accepted by them was like living in a family without getting hugs. It was like a certain coldness. I don't want to put my daughter through that but I do want her to know the truth.

Good stuff on this topic.

I will admit I make JW mad because I go straight to the new testament and shoot down everything they try to say. I remember one of the old ones asking me how can I be so young and know that much about the bible. My reply was it isn't about me knowing the Bible..the key to the Bible is reading it and understanding it and not picking out scriptures from the old testament and trying to combine them with the new testament.

I work with some also...but we never get into the debate over GOD.

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The core of what I belief comes from being introduced to it as a child growing up in the faith, and then leaving and observing what others believe. From reading the Bible on my own, and from doing my own historical research into the History of Christianity as a whole.

It is my personal belief that most of Christianity is polluted with European paganism from Catholicism. There is no real 'pure' Christianity in the world anymore. JW recognize this fact, and attempted to weed out the pagan beliefs and try to see the faith in a pure form without any influences. I think they have been the best at accomplishing that feat. Is it perfect? No. Are there some things they believe that are taken too literally? Perhaps. Is the Org fool of BS, politics, fakers, hypocrites, etc....MOST CERTAINLY! But that is the Org, not the faith.

At the end of the day, faults and all, I think they do a pretty good job of giving me a set of beliefs that I think reflect what Christ was all about. And so I support the beliefs because of that....my own independent findings and research seem to support theirs (more or less). At least they support what JW was attempting to do, and it always seem to make more sense to me that what I observed in your typical Baptist church, or the non denominational church. So I ride with the beliefs, just not the org.

Great posts! I was also raised a JW, but I stopped attending before being baptized when I was about 12. Even though I'm much more into spirituality and my own personal relationship with God and the Universe vs religion I still hold some of those JW teachings dear. I don't know, perhaps it's just because I was raised that way. My mom was disfellowshipped but she re-instated many years later. She's currently inactive. My father was NOT a JW and that caused problems, but it also means my upbringing was not a restrictive as some.

Still some very nice and kind people who aren't into religious dramatics. The services are all about the bible, not the charisma of the elders. I respect that.
 
And get a Rush card too right Russel? man get the fuck outta here. :rolleyes:

dont worry about what im posting and just stick being BGOL's resident alcoholic bruh..you not contributing shit and just trollin' in this man's thread...you not gonna pull me into that shit with you

"A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who"
- Jay-Z
 
dont worry about what im posting and just stick being BGOL's resident alcoholic bruh..you not contributing shit and just trollin' in this man's thread...you not gonna pull me into that shit with you

"A wise man told me don't argue with fools
Cause people from a distance can't tell who is who"
- Jay-Z

Ahhhhh hell, so you been to AA with me to know if I'm an alcoholic? :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:


Man, who the hell is this? :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
I was raised a JW too, I stopped going when I went away to college. I basically opened my mind, and began reading and studying other things the witnesses deemed "wordly". I realized they don't want you to read other religious or philisophical material because your mind is easier to control if you remain ignorant to other points of view. Glad I never got baptized. I got pretty close, but couldn't go through with it.

The organization has some strong control techniques, brilliant actually. Wish I would have thought of the shit. I never realized how socially retarded I was until I went away to college. It took me a long time to get that shit out of my system. I actually resent them bastards in a way.

One time for shits and giggles I went to the memorial. I sat next to this chick and I had this look on my face trying to look all serious and deep and shit. When they passed me the bread and wine, I ate that shit, and drank that shit, all of it!!! Then I just stared at the chick next to me, took a long pause and said ....."I'm annointed"..... Bitch nearly shit her pants!!!

To the ex JW's, remember that shit with the smurfs? Fuck was that shit about?
 
I used to be one too. I was deep in, but it was mainly I was raised in it, and just did it to make my parents happy. I was in deep though, I was in one of the Young People Ask videos, and even served at Bethel for 2 years.

I got married, and married a JW, and she got a DUI, and the Elders treated her so bad, and came down on her so hard, that it changed my whole view of everything. Needless to say, both of us have not been back since.

Oh well, atleast I do not miss anymore Eagles games, because I am sitting at the meeting on Sundays, LMAO
 
OK OK OK...I dare any of you Who use to go to the hall to tell me you have NOT been to this meeting!

 
To the ex JW's, remember that shit with the smurfs? Fuck was that shit about?

:lol: Damn was that the universal scare kids shitless tactic? Did they tell you the story about the smurf dolls being demons...what about the one with the haunted house. :hmm::smh:

Yeahhhhh definitely some shenanigans regards keeping kids to see the outside world as demonic and corrupt...Sadly, much of it is, but smurfs are cartoons. Dick Cheney on the other hand- yeah that nigga might be a demon.
 
Thats some bullshit, what if your wife was disfellowshiped while you are married. :eek:

Shit man, I could never stop talking to my core family members.

Funny thing is I'd known two JWs in my life.

One was a liar, cheat, and he tried to fuck everything that walked.

The other was a chick that was fucking another member's husband.

I think the religion and its people are no better then anyone else.

I disagree.Those two examples are of people who were "technically" witnesses,but weren't following as they were supposed to.Odds are,they aren't happy people either.I know quite a few witnesses that do sly shit on the un,and non of em are happy or content.Even my girlfriend.Before she fucked with me,she was very innocent and had a really good aura about her.Against her rules,she started fucking with me and she slowly got alot more calloused emotionally.Now after me,she is a shell of what she was.Bitter and pessimistic.She has a relative that started cheating on her husband on the low.Fastforward 6 years and now she is divorced,disfellowshipped,and remarried a dude that she KNOWS is fucking everyone under the sun.The Witnesses that I know that follow as they are supposed to,are really content people.
 
The organization has some strong control techniques, brilliant actually. Wish I would have thought of the shit. I never realized how socially retarded I was until I went away to college. It took me a long time to get that shit out of my system. I actually resent them bastards in a way.

Yeah I agree. When people argue about whether its a cult or not the proper term is its a high control group. A cult is only separated due to the fact cults typically have a central charasmatic figure that people rally around.

JW's had 2 in the form of russel and rutherford than they had a organizer who set up a self perpetuating business in the disguise of religion.

Here is a great discussion on there use of group hypnosis techniques.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/wat...rticle-on-Watchtower-Indoctrination-MUST-READ

Also in the field service they use a form of NLP on people. How many of you who went remember preparing presentations like this:

'We are talking to our neighbors who long for a crime free world'
Since most people will say they want a crime free world that phrase creates a suposition and can open a persons mind to the disscussion that follows.

Another favorite of theirs to use:

'any loving person would have to agree...'
Again most people will want to think of themselves as loving and thus they must agree with whatever next follows.
 
I stayed across the street at 107:lol:

I used to love going to the roof and watching fireworks.



Yeah I remember that. I did that a few times, LOL.....I am not sure if it was like that when you were there, but when I was there, we were drinking like crazy!!! I was 23, and my friends were only about 19, or 20, so I would buy all the liquor, and we would party like crazy, LOL
 
I am not JW or anything close to it... but I know this model chick that is JW..so check it... I am married and she knows it, and over the past 6 years we have been cool and never had anything sexual enter into the friendship. She had a boyfriend for 4 years and vanished only to return talking about she and dude broke up and she was wrong to have stopped being cool with me. I was like it is cool blah blah blah...she asked me to do a photoshoot with her and I did, still nothing ever was sexual (even though we were shooting sexy stuff) I had shoulder surgery and was stuck at the crib 24/7 and BOOM out of the blue She started telling me that she has been having dreams about me and wanted to suck my dick:eek:. I was like WOW that is awesome and all but were did that come from??? She was like she always wanted to wanted to suck me off, wanted me to fuck her in the ass and have a 3 some with another chick!!! That shit came out of the blue!! :rolleyes:I turned her down not because she wasn't fine but because I had too much to lose behind some random freakiness (plus she knows where I live, because we were cool and she promised to send me a damn get well card, which I never got):smh:

So here we are 4 months later and she is going to JW conventions (calling me trying to get me to come:smh:) and she let me know that she is going to the HALL more and that her 1st talk is next month( I don't know what that is...) and she is dating a ministerial servant ( I don't know what that is either) and she is very happy and has many big plans and spiritual goals...

What type of chick is this? A former bi Sexual freak turned what???
 
BOOM out of the blue She started telling me that she has been having dreams about me and wanted to suck my dick:eek:. I was like WOW that is awesome and all but were did that come from??? She was like she always wanted to wanted to suck me off, wanted me to fuck her in the ass and have a 3 some with another chick!!! That shit came out of the blue!! :rolleyes:I turned her down not because she wasn't fine but because I had too much to lose behind some random freakiness (plus she knows where I live, because we were cool and she promised to send me a damn get well card, which I never got):smh:

So here we are 4 months later and she is going to JW conventions (calling me trying to get me to come:smh:) and she let me know that she is going to the HALL more and that her 1st talk is next month( I don't know what that is...) and she is dating a ministerial servant ( I don't know what that is either) and she is very happy and has many big plans and spiritual goals...

What type of chick is this? A former bi Sexual freak turned what???

A ministerial servant is like a jr pastor or deacon.

As with all thing I have a better understanding of the secret freakiness of JW women. Like VeeWee77 said its amazing how socially retarded some JW's are.

Once I got grown I realized that there were a lot of girls I liked that were doing some of everything on the low low.

I feel for that dumb ass MS who has no idea what type of freak he has on his hands. Than again maybe he do. Thats a catch 22 cause with the talks on sex they constantly giving some folk be confessing to the elders shit they doing in the marriage bedroom.

I've heard tales of cats who were getting oral and who's wives went to the elders:smh:
 
Man! Former or current JW (cult members:)) all over the place. Most people know, live or work with at least a couple somewhere. Sometimes they are hard to recognize and other times they seem to stand out for some reason.

Anyway for those who left and had negative experiences or have become atheists or agnostics or whatever hey that's understandable. If you are currently on some type of anti JW mission that is a bit revealing.

The blood issue stumbles many but think about it. Religion is not supposed to be something you pick out like a favorite pair of shoes. There may be some issues that may be difficult to follow but if you solidly believe this is Biblical truth and are of sound mind and able to make your own decisions then you will follow your belief. If your life is in jeopardy you have made the choice to take that risk.

That is why religion is a very very serious matter. It boils down to at times being a life or death matter. Religious followers from Jesus on down to brothers in Nazi or African civil wars have indeed put their lives on the line for their faith.

In order to take something that seriously then religion can not be a mere matter of trend or fashion or political correctness.

The other matters of changing doctrine or certain personalities or certain legal or organizational procedures boil down to 2 things.

(1) Imperfect humans are not infallible and JWs never claimed infallibility.

(2) Most religions rely on centuries of unbroken creeds and dogma. It takes honesty and humility to admit you are wrong and correct or readjust some of your views. You also have to obey Caesar and maintain strict legalities in dealing with millions of people worldwide when making adjustments or corrections

So if you disagree with their procedures or doctrines or had negative experiences with certain individuals, personalities or groups of individuals that's fine. But the truth is the same now as it was 6000 years ago. That is the bottom line. Mind control tactics and salesmanship with your message and the skilled ability to defend said message all miss the bigger point.

Some will inevitably be stumbled by certain things and will be negatively affected. That was foretold to happen thousands of years ago and it is impossible to avoid. But when the smoke clears how many truths in this universe are there? One truth or 6 billion truths? There are over 6 billion humans on this planet. Which truth will we believe and better yet which one will we live our lives by?
 
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