Amy Klobachar's VP hopes is about to run into a brick wall.

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None of those southern States will ever vote for a president with a women on the ticket.
They will vote for another brother before they put a woman in office.
Democrats still haven't learned from the Hillary mistake.

Georgia....MIGHT. Georgia is the most progressive state in the South, just my opinion from my travels. We have a white woman Senator right now. A thieving stock trading one, but a woman nonetheless.
 

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I Like Val. Just don't think she helps with a 78 year old President. Voters will look more than ever at..."Can I see her as President?" I can, maybe you can, but her lack of experience on a national stage would hinder her. BUT, she DID do well at impeachment. :yes: Her and Rice for me
Lack of experience? Look what we got now... tRump's only experience is ripping off laborers, housing discrimination and a shitty TV show.
 

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I don’t lean right. I’m totally independent. Just because I’m not 100% orange man bad and Donald trump is evil. Does not make me a trump supporter.

If your a Democrat you think trump is evil. If your a republican you think Obama is evil.

People think Trump is evil because of his immigrant policies. Not knowing that illegal immigration use to be a democrat talking point. Bill Clinton and Obama deported more illegals then any president in history.

Just like the republicans. During the Obama years. They bitch about the deficit and debt not knowing that trump has spend more money and run up more debt then Obama. Plus the tax cut they passed never trickle down on paying the debt.

But Republicans are Ok with it because there Team is in power and in the White House.

Okay I'll take you at your word that you're totally independent, but what has Donald Trump ever done that would lead you to believe he is not bad and evil to his core?
 

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I Like Val. Just don't think she helps with a 78 year old President. Voters will look more than ever at..."Can I see her as President?" I can, maybe you can, but her lack of experience on a national stage would hinder her. BUT, she DID do well at impeachment. :yes: Her and Rice for me
Val is no no nonsense and extremely professional
 

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Vp's are picked according to a president's weakness.

For instance, Donald Trump needed the support of the Christian right to become president. However, he's an amoral nonbeliever known for multiple marriages, multiple affairs, and running casinos. That's why he picked Mike Pence.

Barack Obama needed the support of Wall Street to get elected back in 2008. However he was a law professor well known for being a community organizer. Not exactly a corporate friendly image. That's why he picked Joe Biden.

So how does Amy Klobuchar shore up Joe Biden's weaknesses?
 

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I don’t lean right. I’m totally independent. Just because I’m not 100% orange man bad and Donald trump is evil. Does not make me a trump supporter.

If your a Democrat you think trump is evil. If your a republican you think Obama is evil.

People think Trump is evil because of his immigrant policies. Not knowing that illegal immigration use to be a democrat talking point. Bill Clinton and Obama deported more illegals then any president in history.

Just like the republicans. During the Obama years. They bitch about the deficit and debt not knowing that trump has spend more money and run up more debt then Obama. Plus the tax cut they passed never trickle down on paying the debt.

But Republicans are Ok with it because there Team is in power and in the White House.

Say it again!
 

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Okay I'll take you at your word that you're totally independent, but what has Donald Trump ever done that would lead you to believe he is not bad and evil to his core?


Im talking as far as the black community. What has trump done that is so evil to black people?

Can you name the evil things he has done to blacks? compared to Obama? Since he became president

I can understand maybe if your in the LGBT and or a immigrant, But His policies towards the LGBT community is something I like, and I hate the LGBT Agenda and as far as immigrants. I don't believe in Open Borders, Like how todays democrats believe in. If your looking for a Job as a American citizen you should not have to compete with H1B Visas for Jobs.

Immigration is what really help him win the Rust Belt in 2016, It was something the democrats use to preach.

It was the Neo-Con (Jewish) Republicans and the Koch Brothers/Mitt Romney that wanted Illegal Immigrants and Open Borders just so they can pay a low wage. Trump just took a page out of Bill Clintons Book to Win the Rust Belt.

Now as far as Blacks and the Black Community, I don't see no difference between Trump and Obama, Its pretty much the same. Obama was just a nice package and symbolisms, but as far as economic policies, There is no real difference.
 

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So how does Amy Klobuchar shore up Joe Biden's weaknesses?


Amy Klobuchar is very boring with absolutely no charisma. She might be able to get some Swing Voters, but ultimately that Ticket Brings no Energy or Enthusiasm. They will get the Die-Hard Democrats and the Anti-Trump but that is not enough to win a election. John Kerry tried that with Bush and Hilary Clinton Tried that with Trump. They both lost.

I Wonder why the democrats are backtracking on picking a black women? I guess maybe they feel they will lose swing voters.
 

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Im talking as far as the black community. What has trump done that is so evil to black people?

Can you name the evil things he has done to blacks? compared to Obama? Since he became president

I can understand maybe if your in the LGBT and or a immigrant, But His policies towards the LGBT community is something I like, and I hate the LGBT Agenda and as far as immigrants. I don't believe in Open Borders, Like how todays democrats believe in. If your looking for a Job as a American citizen you should not have to compete with H1B Visas for Jobs.

Immigration is what really help him win the Rust Belt in 2016, It was something the democrats use to preach.

It was the Neo-Con (Jewish) Republicans and the Koch Brothers/Mitt Romney that wanted Illegal Immigrants and Open Borders just so they can pay a low wage. Trump just took a page out of Bill Clintons Book to Win the Rust Belt.

Now as far as Blacks and the Black Community, I don't see no difference between Trump and Obama, Its pretty much the same. Obama was just a nice package and symbolisms, but as far as economic policies, There is no real difference.

The fact that you really don't diminishes, disqualifies, dismisses and imo dispatches your entire argument to the area where idiocy resides. :smh:
 

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The fact that you really don't diminishes, disqualifies, dismisses and imo dispatches your entire argument to the area where idiocy resides. :smh:

Again Obama was a nice person and was symbolism. That’s it. The only thing black people got out of the Obama administration is “My president is black”

As far as conditions in the black community and wealth Building. Nothing has changed under Obama.

Nothing has changed under trump. Besides maybe if you own a black business you don’t have to deal with so much regulation and taxes. But for most blacks. Conditions have pretty much remained the same under a Obama and Trump.
 

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He has to pick Susan Rice. With his age she is the only one who can do the job and know what's going on and knows world leaders and give us some respect from minute one.
So what do you like about Susan Rice?
 

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Vp's are picked according to a president's weakness.

For instance, Donald Trump needed the support of the Christian right to become president. However, he's an amoral nonbeliever known for multiple marriages, multiple affairs, and running casinos. That's why he picked Mike Pence.

Barack Obama needed the support of Wall Street to get elected back in 2008.
However he was a law professor well known for being a community organizer. Not exactly a corporate friendly image. That's why he picked Joe Biden.

So how does Amy Klobuchar shore up Joe Biden's weaknesses?
Your wrong on that one. Joe was picked because of Obama's short time in public office. Joe was the experience pick.
 

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Obama picked Biden, which makes Biden ok
Biden picks Klobahoe, which makes Klobchar ok,

thats how it works right?
 

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So what do you like about Susan Rice?
Experience. The world knows her and will respect her and after Biden leaves and he will leave she can take over and will know what the hell she is doing?
 

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Again Obama was a nice person and was symbolism. That’s it. The only thing black people got out of the Obama administration is “My president is black”

As far as conditions in the black community and wealth Building. Nothing has changed under Obama.

Nothing has changed under trump. Besides maybe if you own a black business you don’t have to deal with so much regulation and taxes. But for most blacks. Conditions have pretty much remained the same under a Obama and Trump.

You seem fixated on Presidents and the lack of real difference among them. You have to admit a President's agenda is enacted only if he is of the party holding power and control in the legislative branch of government. That said, Obama for six of his eight years in office was constantly and effectively blocked legislatively by a Republican controlled House and Senate. So for you to blame him for lack of an explosive positive change in the black condition misses the mark. Even with total obstruction by Republicans Obama was via Executive Orders able to enact economic reforms and progressive initiatives benefiting minorities and women which regrettably, went right out the window with Hillary Clinton's defeat. Lastly you allege blacks got nothing under the Obama administration. You obviously didn't research that claim, which btw is bullshit. I refer you to the following:

 
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Amy Klobuchar is very boring with absolutely no charisma. She might be able to get some Swing Voters, but ultimately that Ticket Brings no Energy or Enthusiasm. They will get the Die-Hard Democrats and the Anti-Trump but that is not enough to win a election. John Kerry tried that with Bush and Hilary Clinton Tried that with Trump. They both lost.

I Wonder why the democrats are backtracking on picking a black women? I guess maybe they feel they will lose swing voters.

I don't disagree, but those swing voters are going to make or break the Dems in this election. Klobuchar makes a lot more sense than she did before.
 

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You seem fixated on Presidents and the lack of real difference among them. You have to admit a President's agenda is enacted only if he is of the party holding power and control in the legislative branch of government. That said, Obama for six of his eight years in office was constantly and effectively blocked legislatively by a Republican controlled House and Senate. So for you to blame him for lack of an explosive positive change in the black condition misses the mark.


Please! that is a cop out. Obama could not doing anything for Blacks because of Republicans?

But the LGBT Mafia, and Immigrants got all kind of laws passed and benefits.

Jews got reparations for the holocaust (From the American Government ) and Latinos even got DACA.

We did not get shit specifically for us.

But again im not even mad at Obama, I voted for him twice.

I drank the whole Obama CoolAid! in 2008 with "Change" and his 2012 re-election of "Moving Forward"

This time im not going to be fooled again and let the democrats hustle me with trump. I Want Tangibles for my vote.

Because I know with a Joe Biden Administration im not going to get shit anyways like Obama. So who the fuck cares who gets elected.
 

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I don't disagree, but those swing voters are going to make or break the Dems in this election. Klobuchar makes a lot more sense than she did before.

I Think the Democrats are trying the whole moderate approach and try to get some republican voters.

I think you never win by being moderate. You need a candidate that will motivate the base.

Republicans tried it with Mitt Romney because Romney was a moderate and he still lost.

Democrats tried with with Hilary Clinton and she lost.

How did Obama, and Trump Win? They appealed to there hardcore base, They were hyped and motivate to vote.

Also republicans at the end of the day will always vote republican, Which is why Trump enjoys a 93% support among the GOP


 

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Experience. The world knows her and will respect her and after Biden leaves and he will leave she can take over and will know what the hell she is doing?
Ok but do you know about her experience/politics ?
I ask because people are always throwing up names buy have no actual knowledge about the person.

Biden was a name that used to thrown around here in a good light. Now hos name is mud around here.
 

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Please! that is a cop out. Obama could not doing anything for Blacks because of Republicans?

But the LGBT Mafia, and Immigrants got all kind of laws passed and benefits.


Jews got reparations for the holocaust (From the American Government ) and Latinos even got DACA.

We did not get shit specifically for us.

But again im not even mad at Obama, I voted for him twice.

I drank the whole Obama CoolAid! in 2008 with "Change" and his 2012 re-election of "Moving Forward"

This time im not going to be fooled again and let the democrats hustle me with trump. I Want Tangibles for my vote.

Because I know with a Joe Biden Administration im not going to get shit anyways like Obama. So who the fuck cares who gets elected.
Are you saying a republican controlled congress not only wrotes laws (only Congress make laws) but passed laws for gays and immgrants?
Ok can provide examples of those laws congress passed?
 

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Ok but do you know about her experience/politics ?
I ask because people are always throwing up names buy have no actual knowledge about the person.

Biden was a name that used to thrown around here in a good light. Now hos name is mud around here.
I wouldn't have brought her up if I didn't.
 

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Yeah, Don't everyone know what her experience is?
No...that's my whole point. People throw up names all the time because they saw the person on TV, heard the name, someone else told them about the person, etc....but don't actually know much about them. Thus the reason I put up Biden as an example because people were pushing him back when. Now they are pushing what they recently learned about him. People tend not to know about politician period...because most elections are not about knowledge but popularity.
 

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No...that's my whole point. People throw up names all the time because they saw the person on TV, heard the name, someone else told them about the person, etc....but don't actually know much about them. Thus the reason I put up Biden as an example because people were pushing him back when. Now they are pushing what they recent found out about him. People tend not to know about politician period...because most elections are not about knowledge but popularity.
How old are you?
 

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Please! that is a cop out. Obama could not doing anything for Blacks because of Republicans?

But the LGBT Mafia, and Immigrants got all kind of laws passed and benefits.

Jews got reparations for the holocaust (From the American Government ) and Latinos even got DACA.

We did not get shit specifically for us.

But again im not even mad at Obama, I voted for him twice.

I drank the whole Obama CoolAid! in 2008 with "Change" and his 2012 re-election of "Moving Forward"

This time im not going to be fooled again and let the democrats hustle me with trump. I Want Tangibles for my vote.

Because I know with a Joe Biden Administration im not going to get shit anyways like Obama. So who the fuck cares who gets elected.

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. I'm done with you... :hmm:
 

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You should already know what Biden has done in his career.
This isn't about me and it doesn't matter how old a person is. Most people as I stated do not vote for people based on experience or for the best plans. They vote for people based on how they look, how they dress, how they speak, etc....
 

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Progress of the African-American Community During the Obama Administration

President Obama believes we need to restore security and opportunity for working Americans with the fundamental values that made our economy the strongest in the world—making sure everyone does their fair share, everyone gets a fair shake, and hard work and responsibility are rewarded. That’s why President Obama has worked to improve the lives of all Americans, including African Americans, by providing economic and educational opportunities, improving health care coverage, and working to ensure that the criminal justice system is applied fairly to all citizens. Although much work remains to be done, African Americans have made enormous strides in many of these areas during this Administration.
Key Accomplishments
Labor Market, Income and Poverty

  • The unemployment rate for African Americans peaked at 16.8 percent in March 2010, after experiencing a larger percentage-point increase from its pre-recession average to its peak than the overall unemployment rate did. Since then, the African-American unemployment rate has seen a larger percentage-point decline in the recovery, falling much faster than the overall unemployment rate over the last year.
  • The real median income of black households increased by 4.1 percent between 2014 and 2015.
  • The President enacted permanent expansions of the Earned Income Tax Credit and Child Tax Credit, which together now provide about 2 million African-American working families with an average tax cut of about $1,000 each.
  • A recent report from the Census Bureau shows the remarkable progress that American families have made as the recovery continues to strengthen. Real median household income grew 5.2 percent from 2014 to 2015, the fastest annual growth on record. Income grew for households across the income distribution, with the fastest growth among lower- and middle-income households. The number of people in poverty fell by 3.5 million, leading the poverty rate to fall from 14.8 percent to 13.5 percent, the largest one-year drop since 1968, with even larger improvements including for African Americans, Hispanic Americans, and children.
  • The poverty rate for African Americans fell faster in 2015 than in any year since 1999. While the poverty rate fell for across all racial and ethnic groups this year, it fell 2.1 percentage points (p.p.) for African Americans, resulting in 700,000 fewer African Americans in poverty.
  • African American children also made large gains in 2015, with the poverty rate falling 4.2 percentage points and 400,000 fewer children in poverty.
Health
  • Since the start of Affordable Care Act's first open enrollment period at the end of 2013, the uninsured rate among non-elderly African Americans has declined by more than half. Over that period, about 3 million uninsured nonelderly, African-American adults gained health coverage.
  • Teen pregnancy among African-American women is at an historic low. The birth rate per 1,000 African-American teen females has fallen from 60.4 in 2008, before President Obama entered office, to 34.9 in 2014.
  • Life expectancy at birth is the highest it’s ever been for African Americans. In 2014, life expectancy at birth was 72.5 years for African-American males and 78.4 for African-American females, the highest point in the historical series for both genders.
Education
  • The high school graduation rate for African-American students is at its highest point in history. In the 2013-2014 academic year, 72.5 percent of African-American public high school students graduated within four years.
  • Since the President took office, over one million more black and Hispanic students enrolled in college.
  • Among African-Americans and Hispanic students 25 and older, high school completion is higher than ever before. Among African Americans, Hispanics, and Asian students 25 and older, Bachelor’s degree attainment is higher than ever before. As of 2015, 88 percent of the African-American population 25 and older had at least a high school degree and 23percent had at least a Bachelor’s degree.
Support for HBCUs
  • The U.S. Department of Education (ED) is responsible for funding more than $4 billion for HBCUs each year.
  • Pell Grant funding for HBCU students increased significantly between 2007 and 2014, growing from $523 million to $824 million.
  • The President’s FY 2017 budget request proposes a new, $30 million competitive grant program, called the HBCU and Minority Serving Institutions (MSIs) Innovation for Completion Fund, designed to support innovative and evidence-based, student-centered strategies and interventions to increase the number of low-income students completing degree programs at HBCUs and MSIs.
  • The First in the World (FITW) program provided unique opportunities for HBCUs to compete for grants focused on innovation to drive student success.
  • In 2014, Hampton University received a grant award of $3.5 million.
  • In FY 2015, three FITW awards were made to HBCUs, including Jackson State University ($2.9 million), Delaware State University ($2.6 million) and Spelman College ($2.7 million).
  • While Congress did not fund the program in fiscal year 2016, the President’s 2017 budget request includes $100 million for the First in the World program, with up to $30 million set aside for HBCUs and MSIs.
Criminal Justice
  • The incarceration rates for African-American men and women fell during each year of the Obama Administration and are at their lowest points in over two decades. The imprisonment rates for African-American men and women were at their lowest points since the early 1990s and late 1980s, respectively, of 2014, the latest year for which Bureau of Justice Statistics data are available.
  • The number of juveniles in secure detention has been reduced dramatically over the last decade. The number of juveniles committed or detained, a disproportionate number of whom are African American, fell more than 30% between 2007 and 2013.
  • The President has ordered the Justice Department to ban the use of solitary confinement for juveniles held in federal custody. There are presently no more juveniles being held in restrictive housing federally.
My Brother’s Keeper
  • President Obama launched the My Brother’s Keeper initiative on February 27, 2014 to address persistent opportunity gaps faced by boys and young men of color and ensure that all young people can reach their full potential.
  • Nearly 250 communities in all 50 states, 19 Tribal Nations, Washington, DC and Puerto Rico have accepted the President’s My Brother’s Keeper Community Challenge to dedicate resources and execute their own strategic plans to ensure all young people can reach their full potential.
  • Inspired by the President’s call to action, philanthropic and other private organizations have committed to provide more than $600 million in grants and in-kind resources and $1 billion in low-interest financing to expand opportunity for young people – more than tripling the initial private sector investment since 2014.
  • In May 2014, the MBK Task Force gave President Obama nearly 80 recommendations to address persistent opportunity gaps faced by young people, including boys and young men of color. Agencies have been working individually and collectively since to respond to recommendations with federal policy initiatives, grant programs, and guidance. Today, more than 80% of MBK Task Force Recommendations are complete or on track.
Advancing Equity for Women and Girls of Color
  • In 2014, the Council on Women and Girls (CWG) launched a specific work stream called “Advancing Equity for Women and Girls of Color” to ensure that policies and programs across the federal government appropriately take into account the unique obstacles that women and girls of color can face. In fall 2015, CWG released a report that identified five data-driven issue areas where interventions can promote opportunities for success at school, work, and in the community.
  • This work has also inspired independent commitments to advance equity, including a $100 million, 5-year-funding initiative by Prosperity Together—a coalition of women’s foundations—to improve economic prosperity for low-income women and women and girls of color and a $75 million funding commitment by the Collaborative to Advance Equity through Research—an affiliation of American colleges, universities, research organizations, publishers and public interest institutions led by Wake Forest University—to support existing and new research efforts about women and girls of color.
  • At the United State of Women Summit in June 2016, eight organizations launched “Young Women’s Initiatives,” place-based, data-driven programs that will focus in on the local needs of young women of color. Those organizations include the Women’s Foundation of Minnesota, the Women’s Foundation of California, the Women's Foundation for a Greater Memphis, the Washington Area Women’s Foundation, the Dallas Women’s Foundation, the Women’s Fund of Greater Birmingham, the Women’s Fund of Western Massachusetts, and the New York Women’s Foundation.
Small Business
  • There are 8 million minority-owned firms in the U.S.—a 38% increase since 2007.
  • In early 2015, the U.S. Small Business Administration (SBA) launched the MBK Millennial Entrepreneurs Initiative, which seeks to address the challenges faced by underserved millennials, including boys and young men of color, through self-employment and entrepreneurship. A major component of this effort included the six-part video series, titled “Biz My Way,” which encourages millennials to follow their passion in business.
  • In fiscal year 2015, underserved markets received 32,563 loans totaling $13 billion, compared with 25,799 loans and $10.47 billion in fiscal year 2014, an increase of 26 percent in number of loans and 24 percent in dollar amount.
  • Last year, the SBA issued a new rule that makes most individuals currently on probation or parole eligible for a SBA microloan—a loan of up to $50,000 that helps small businesses start up. And in August 2016, SBA together with the W.K. Kellogg Foundation and Justine Petersen, launched the Aspire Entrepreneurship Initiative, a $2.1 Million pilot initiative to provide entrepreneurship education and microloans to returning citizens in Detroit, Chicago, Louisville and St. Louis.
Civil Rights Division
  • The Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division continued to enforce federal law. Over the last eight years, the Division has vigorously protected the civil rights of individuals in housing, lending, employment, voting, education, and disability rights and through hate crimes and law enforcement misconduct prosecutions and law enforcement pattern and practice cases.
African-American Judicial Appointees
  • President Obama has made 62 lifetime appointments of African Americans to serve on the federal bench.
  • This includes 9 African-American circuit court judges.
  • It also includes the appointment of 53 African American district court judges—including 26 African-American women appointed to the federal court, which is more African-American women appointed by any President in history.
  • In total, 19% of the President’s confirmed judges have been African American, compared to 16% under President Bill Clinton and 7% under President George W. Bush.
  • Five states now have their first African-American circuit judge; 10 states now have their first African-American female lifetime-appointed federal judge; and 3 districts now have their first African-American district judge.
  • Also, the President appointed the first Haitian-American lifetime-appointed federal judge, the first Afro-Caribbean-born district judge, the first African-American female circuit judge in the Sixth Circuit, and the first African-American circuit judge on the First Circuit (who was also the first African-American female lifetime-appointed federal judge to serve anywhere in the First Circuit).
  • The President is committed to continuing to ensure diversity on the federal bench. This year, the President nominated Myra Selby of Indiana to the Seventh Circuit, Abdul Kallon of Alabama to the Eleventh Circuit, and Rebecca Haywood of Pennsylvania to the Third Circuit. If confirmed, each of these would be a judicial first—Myra Selby would be the first African-American circuit judge from Indiana, Abdul Kallon would be the first African-American circuit judge from Alabama, and Rebecca Haywood would be the first African-American woman on the Third Circuit.In addition, two of the President’s district court nominees—Stephanie Finely and Patricia Timmons-Goodson—would be the first African-American lifetime-appointed federal judges in each of their respective districts, if confirmed.
 
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