Wishful thinking that these movies will be released if the China movie market isnt open.
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Yea i still miss going even if to see this before the movie startsand i still miss going to the movies.
yo I fucking miss going to the movies
I had a AMC A-list and went 4 to 8 times a month.
Real talk I don't think movie theatre get back to normal until 2021 at earliest and AMC might not survie.
movie theaters are a unique experience
and i have a kick ass dolby atmos home theater at home .. speakers on the ceiling the whole 9..... and i still miss going to the movies.
If streaming is going to happen, Imma need that ultra 4k resolution w/ lossless hi-fidelity audio output from Netflix or whoever. I need the home theater to sound and look like I'm at IMAX. Especially for Tenet...
But you forgetting the economical effect the virus is having no job no dough no dough no bills getting paid no disposable income for movies. I’m not saying everyone but a large majority will choose bills over seeing a movie. Movie theaters to keep people coming had to bring on investors and take on loans to pay for all the upgrades billions were being made so there were no worries but the virus has shut it down for the minimum summer of next year, something going to giveTheaters will return back to Business, but it’s not happening until a vaccine comes out for this Covid-19 and that’s not expected to happen to next summer the earliest.
People love going to theaters and a large majority of movies are specifically made to be viewed on the big screen.
Since the 1950s almost every decade they said something was gonna be the death of theaters.
TV was going to kill theaters in the 50s
TV was going to kill theaters when old thearatical releases began appearing in the 60s
The VHS/Beta Max player was gonna kill thearters in the 70s.
Cable TV was gonna kill theaters in the 80s.
Satellite TV and DVD was gonna kill theaters in the 90s
The DVR and high speed Internet was gonna kill theaters in the 2000s
And home thearters/sound systems were gonna kill thearters in the 2010s.
And always, Hollywood And thearters adjusted to the change and used it for their advantage.
They will get over this Covid-19 in due time.
I think it's finished but.. theaters are just closed... I'm looking forward to see what they put in that new mall in Lakeland.. it better not be no Bullshiti miss going to creme de la creme theaters. i don't "miss" malco.
i would love straight to streaming releases. the only thing i would be missing is dolby cinema (which malco does not have) and i have a close approximation at the crib.
do u know if they finished that theater expansion in collierville? it was supposed to be done last december and it was not. then january and it wasn't. i haven't been that way since covid hit.
they were already looking at bankruptcy attorneys.
and amazon was rumored to be looking to buy AMC.
Yea i still miss going even if to see this before the movie starts
I think it's finished but.. theaters are just closed... I'm looking forward to see what they put in that new mall in Lakeland.. it better not be no Bullshit
and yeah fuck Malco just for GP
the funny thing is they been doing this drive in movie test in some places and it seems to be working out.... Might have to look into that scenario
you might be onto something there. take it back to the old days w/built-in social distancing.
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you might be onto something there. take it back to the old days w/built-in social distancing.
Without saying money, what's the reason why every movie company stressing over China? They made movies change stories (B. Pitt zombie flick) and still didn't allow it in the theaterWishful thinking that these movies will be released if the China movie market isnt open.
Yep exactly. No way in hell does Marvel release Black Widow until China is ready to see it.Without saying money, what's the reason why every movie company stressing over China? They made movies change stories (B. Pitt zombie flick) and still didn't allow it in the theater
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Disney could juss add mulan and black widow to Disney plus as an exclusive... Lot of people would get a 1 month subscription juss to see those 2 movies especially if they have kids.. In fact that would guarantee a few already subscribers to continue with their subscription for at least another month.. Hell release it for a month at $10 per stream than after a month or 2 make it go straight to dvd plus.. Disney would make money doing both those optionsYep exactly. No way in hell does Marvel release Black Widow until China is ready to see it.
DC with Wonder Woman. Hell even Tenet. August 12th wishful thinking
the funny thing is they been doing this drive in movie test in some places and it seems to be working out.... Might have to look into that scenario
You think to highly of big bizz.. Hollywood is big bizz and the first rule is all about money.. With all the shitty movies they release yearly from big budgets to small budgets it's clear they don't give a fuck about the craft or the experience.. All they care about is the money... The real reason they aint releasing them is cause they don't believe they gonna make as much streaming the flicks compare to the theatre.. From piracy to not being able to charge every single person who watches it is the scenario that will dis allow them from making a certain amount of money.. Mulan in Disney eyes is a billion dollar money maker, tenet is a 600-800 million dollar money maker, black widow a billion dollar moneymaker.. They don't think streaming it is gonna make those same numbers... If you got 3 kids and a wife you all can watch that on tv for a fraction of the cost than what you would of had to pay it you took the entire family to the theatre and if you throw in imax prices even more money... Thats what it all comes to the moneyI think some of you are missing the point of why studios are holding back releasing these blockbusters or postponing them indefinitely.
Part of the reason blockbusters are made is so that they can be seen and heard and felt in a certain way. The theaters control that experience.
Nothing you have at home is on-par with a true movie theater, especially the big budget IMAX theaters. And, on top of that, the most important thing is that they do not want a user-controlled experience.
At home, you can be distracted, pause the movie, be on the phone/computer/doing dishes/yelling at kids, etc. simultaneously while the movie is on. Chris Nolan ain't trying to have his work ruined by not being able to display it in its fullest capacity. As far as they are concerned, watching at home to them is like watching a movie on a tablet. That's fine afterwards but they want the initial experience to be better than that because how you see and hear it affects how you feel about it. And, let's be honest, most folks are watching movies on those tvs they bought at last year's black Friday sale. Its not the same.
You're not getting Tenet, Wonder Woman 1984, No Time To Die, etc. until they have a feasible solution that will allow them to control the experience and present the movies how they are meant to be seen, in their entirety and uninterrupted.. They don't want going to the movies to be the same thing as watching a movie at home; and its not.
That's the thinking that's going to bring them down, we won't see a billion dollar grossing movie anytime soonYou think to highly of big bizz.. Hollywood is big bizz and the first rule is all about money.. With all the shitty movies they release yearly from big budgets to small budgets it's clear they don't give a fuck about the craft or the experience.. All they care about is the money... The real reason they aint releasing them is cause they don't believe they gonna make as much streaming the flicks compare to the theatre.. From piracy to not being able to charge every single person who watches it is the scenario that will dis allow them from making a certain amount of money.. Mulan in Disney eyes is a billion dollar money maker, tenet is a 600-800 million dollar money maker, black widow a billion dollar moneymaker.. They don't think streaming it is gonna make those same numbers... If you got 3 kids and a wife you all can watch that on tv for a fraction of the cost than what you would of had to pay it you took the entire family to the theatre and if you throw in imax prices even more money... Thats what it all comes to the money
I almost want to say, who the hell would go sit in a movie theatre, but I'm sure there would be quite a few people willing to go. I doubt enough to make it worth opening though. No way I'm sitting in a fucking movie theatre until 2023 at least.
I think eventually they will give in and just stream it.. I know they prob will just use some type of tax loophole if it doesn't generate the money they want... Like I said for Disney they could just stream mulan and black widow for a month or 2 at a price than add it to Disney plus to get more subscriptions or keep subscriptions... Disney has the biggest upper hand in this since they control their content and can control how it's distributedThat's the thinking that's going to bring them down, we won't see a billion dollar grossing movie anytime soon
I don t know if they want Black Widow to be viewed as a stream film though.Disney could juss add mulan and black widow to Disney plus as an exclusive... Lot of people would get a 1 month subscription juss to see those 2 movies especially if they have kids.. In fact that would guarantee a few already subscribers to continue with their subscription for at least another month.. Hell release it for a month at $10 per stream than after a month or 2 make it go straight to dvd plus.. Disney would make money doing both those options
I think some of you are missing the point of why studios are holding back releasing these blockbusters or postponing them indefinitely.
Part of the reason blockbusters are made is so that they can be seen and heard and felt in a certain way. The theaters control that experience.
Nothing you have at home is on-par with a true movie theater, especially the big budget IMAX theaters. And, on top of that, the most important thing is that they do not want a user-controlled experience.
At home, you can be distracted, pause the movie, be on the phone/computer/doing dishes/yelling at kids, etc. simultaneously while the movie is on. Chris Nolan ain't trying to have his work ruined by not being able to display it in its fullest capacity. As far as they are concerned, watching at home to them is like watching a movie on a tablet. That's fine afterwards but they want the initial experience to be better than that because how you see and hear it affects how you feel about it. And, let's be honest, most folks are watching movies on those tvs they bought at last year's black Friday sale. Its not the same.
You're not getting Tenet, Wonder Woman 1984, No Time To Die, etc. until they have a feasible solution that will allow them to control the experience and present the movies how they are meant to be seen, in their entirety and uninterrupted.. They don't want going to the movies to be the same thing as watching a movie at home; and its not.
I liked Greyhound but streaming was the perfect fit for that movie, me myself believe a lot of movies that flopped in theaters found a new life on streaming services cause every movie is not on size fits alland when you see Greyhound, you realize why the studio said let's cut our losses and just sell it for $70 mil
because that movie would have flopped hard on the big screen
and still Tom Hank's was upset at the decision
I liked Greyhound but streaming was the perfect fit for that movie, me myself believe a lot of movies that flopped in theaters found a new life on streaming services cause every movie is not on size fits all
some movies are better suited for the small screen (ie Issa Rae's LoveBirds or Batista's MySpy). I enjoyed both those fields but the bar for enjoyment was lower since it was relatively free and i was at home. But i think direct to video/stream has had a negative connotation. Thats starting to change with Netflix's Extraction & the Old Guard. Both flicks that i could've seen myself checking out in at the threatres
your boxing analogy is a lil off.. In actuality this would be the best time to do a boxing match cause they would make so much money off of pay-per-views.. Remember "social distance" means less gatherings to do shared payments on fights. . Instead of 5-10 dudes at 1 crib chipping in on the fight lot of the dudes would be solo or in a smaller group paying for fight... Nobody going to bars or big social gatherings to watch fight so it would be more people individually paying... Also being the only sport in town means all eyes on you and the gambling money would be next level.... That arena money pretty much benefits the location hosting the event and the surrounding area(hotels, etc).. But if push comes to shove this would be the best time to get that pay-per-view revenueI don't see movie theatres going away, once it's safe to go again I will be back going 2-3 times a week simply for the fact that unless you own a mansion and have a really nice theatre, the experience just isn't even comparable. Especially since I go for Dolby when i go to an AMC Theatre or XD when i go to a Century theatre. Most ppl including myself just don't have the means for a really nice home theatre, the only 1 I've been to that was super nice was this Jewish chick's parents house in Beverly Hills and her pops was a Major Hollywood film producer that used that theatre for his own private screenings for movies he produce. Also, there just isn't a business model that can maximize revenue than the box office, right now the film business is in the same predicament as Boxing where you can't do the biggest fights or films yet until you can have crowds again. Canelo vs GGG 3 can't happen without a crowd and lose out on a $20 mil+ gate. They can't release Mulan without the box office, Mulan will most likely break the Wolf Warrior 2 chinese box office record which dam near almost all $870 mil of it was from China alone. Mulan is probably at least $1.5 billion in the box office, probably something around Lion King's #s over $1.65 bil. Nowadays, the theatres aren't getting much of the split for the box office which is why theatres depend on concessions and other revenue sources so the Studio will get most of that $1.65 billion split. There just isn't a way you can make that kinda money with a streaming/VOD business model, not even close for a film like Mulan
your boxing analogy is a lil off.. In actuality this would be the best time to do a boxing match cause they would make so much money off of pay-per-views.. Remember "social distance" means less gatherings to do shared payments on fights. . Instead of 5-10 dudes at 1 crib chipping in on the fight lot of the dudes would be solo or in a smaller group paying for fight... Nobody going to bars or big social gatherings to watch fight so it would be more people individually paying... Also being the only sport in town means all eyes on you and the gambling money would be next level.... That arena money pretty much benefits the location hosting the event and the surrounding area(hotels, etc).. But if push comes to shove this would be the best time to get that pay-per-view revenue
I also think this would be a good time to implement a drive thru boxing viewing event... I think lots of money could be made off that for areas with large parking places
those mideast nigs would put it up for bragging rights.. Or DubaiI follow the business of boxing more than just about anyone that doesn't actually work in it so I'm speaking facts, that's why they're hoping to do Canelo vs GGG 3 for Cinco De Mayo next year hoping they can fill out a crowd in Vegas by then, 1st fight did a $27 mil gate, 2nd fight did a $23-24 mil gate. We can safely say even if its a smaller gate it'd be $20 mil for a 3rd fight if they can do a full crowd. There's no way you make up a $20 mil loss of gate revenue from extra ppv buys, even if they price it at $85 per ppv buy like they did for the 2nd fight which did around 1.1 mil buys, the ppv distributor also takes half of the ppv revenue so it would take close to 500k more ppv buys to make up for the missed $20 mil gate and you're just not gonna get that many more buys. That's why the promoters won't do it. The only way you can make up for a missed gate like that is if you can find a party willing to put up a huge site fee to host it like the royals in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Bahrain etc. Not sure if they're willing to put up that site fee for any fights other than AJ vs Fury tho