Alot of the "obsese sista" problem is the fault of us bruthas*

[XXXplosive]

You say "Anyone can stop eating, it's not that hard." You've got to be kidding. I know plenty of fat people that couldn't pull themselves away from a table with a crane. The problem with fat people is that their stomachs are stretched. The larger their stomachs get the more food they need to feel full. This is why many obese people need medical intervention to lose weight.

I agree it takes will-power and determination, but will-power and determination are not so easily achieved.

No, YOU must be kidding with a statement like that

"The problem with fat people is that their stomachs are stretched. The larger their stomachs get the more food they need to feel full."


Everyone's stomach is the same damn size.
When they have a medical procedure (like the lap band), they are merely making the stomach smaller than what it NORMALLY IS
They're NOT returning the stomach back to it's normal size, because it's been "stretched out"

Plenty of people have lost weight without any medical intervention.
What makes them any different from anyone else?
They lost the weight with exercise and better diet, plain and simple.

Stop being an enabler and providing even more excuses for poor health choices and lack of motivation!!!

 

[XXXplosive]

I'm no fan of claiming "thick" when a girl is fat. But I personally been fighting a weight problem my whole life, so I know it ain't easy. Think about it like this: what if you were addicted to a drug that you HAD to have to survive? I can go without eating for days at a time. But the problem is, just about every time you eat something when you're dieting, it doesn't fill you up, it just makes you hungrier, until you give your body plenty of what it REALLY wants, which is inevitably something high in calories. 20 lbs or celery sticks would make me hungrier with each bite, and only a big slice of cake or a burger would make me stop thinking about food for a while. And thinking about food wears on you, it only takes one moment of weakness or lost focus.

And claiming there is no "fat gene" is obviously wrong. You telling me, thin people are thinner because they know more about weight loss? You've clearly never had a weight problem. It's not a simple thing, you're talking about body chemistry, the way it effects your mind and perceptions here, your energy levels, all of that. Man, few years back I lost like a hundred pounds, had some health issues, gained it back. But I have had a thinner roommate since then who tried to give me advice on weight loss, man had never been on a diet or in a gym his whole life. Unlike me, he never had to think about staying thin, no point on educating himself about it.

It's not all genetics, but don't think that there "is no fat gene." By the way, I know how to lose weight because I have been educated on the subject, but knowing how to do something isn't the same as having the strength to overcome genetics or a mentality, whatever you want to call it.

I will agree that some folks may be PREDISPOSED to being overweight, but that mainly comes from things like the kind of food prepared in the house and low metabolism.

Those factors however do not GUARANTEE that one will be overweight.
Just like having an alcoholic father does not guarantee that you will also become an alcoholic.

And if there is a "fat gene", how do you explain when fat parents have skinny kids or when skinny parents have fat kids??
Why were there seemingly no fat genes just a generation ago?
Why do fat genes only seem to be in abundance in the U.S. ???
Why are fat genes seemingly more abundant in black women, but not in black men???
Genes don't just pop up wherever it's convenient, they are always PRESENT from generation to generation.
So why is this the first generation to suddenly be filled with "fat genes"???

 

[dzlkdd]

No, YOU must be kidding with a statement like that

"The problem with fat people is that their stomachs are stretched. The larger their stomachs get the more food they need to feel full."


Everyone's stomach is the same damn size.
When they have a medical procedure (like the lap band), they are merely making the stomach smaller than what it NORMALLY IS
They're NOT returning the stomach back to it's normal size, because it's been "stretched out"

Plenty of people have lost weight without any medical intervention.
What makes them any different from anyone else?
They lost the weight with exercise and better diet, plain and simple.

Stop being an enabler and providing even more excuses for poor health choices and lack of motivation!!!

I guess skinny people are just better than us.

You're a guy who ignores everything but what you want to see in a situation, and in this case, all you're gaining is a false sense of superiority to those who have different struggles in life than you do. After all, if your struggles are something that ain't obviously apparent the moment people see you, then they aren't really problems, are they?

And do you really think everyone's stomach's the same size, too? which is why everyone eats exactly the same amount to feel full?

So yes, I guess it's all in our heads, those of us who struggle with weight. Yeah, must be all the women telling fat guys we're sexy. I mean, since all human's bodies are exactly the same, and any difference in physical appearance, to your logic, is just laziness, so plain and so simple.

Some people can't see past their own nose to realize everybody doesn't get dealt the same hand. You're like the white guys, thinking black people are just lazy, and that's why we're struggling. Not quite malicious, but willfully ignorant, so they can feel legit about thinking they're better than the negros.

 

[XXXplosive]

I guess skinny people are just better than us.

If by "skinny", you mean people that aren't overweight and/or obese, then it's not that they're better than you and other overweight people
It's that they make better diet choices and exercise more
You can sit and make up all the excuses in the world and turn it into a "skinny people" vs "overweight people" extreme, but the bottom line is IT'S ALL ON YOU.
If you've lost 100lbs in the past like you stated, you can do it again through better choices and extra motivation.
I've helped female family members and friends lose weight after they swore for years that they couldn't for a variety of reasons, so I know it can be done.

 

[femmenoire]

My trainer always says this to me and his other black clients:


White women put fitness first, black women put fitness last.


And I agree with him. It's simply a matter of priorities and alot of it has to do with social and economic differences.

For example, one of the white girls I was training with had to stop because her husband said they could no longer afford it. Mind you, she does not work. A week later she came back to the gym, saying she pleaded with her husband and they decided he would work a few extra hours and they'd cut down on some things, so she could continue paying our trainer.

So it is clear that even white men see the importance of fitness for their women and will do what it takes to support that lifestyle.

Now I on the other hand, I would approach my trainer, who is black, and we'd work out a deal. But that's because he is supportive of any sista in the gym. I am lucky for that.

But what would you guys do in that very same situation?

 

[Jam_Jam]

No, YOU must be kidding with a statement like that

"The problem with fat people is that their stomachs are stretched. The larger their stomachs get the more food they need to feel full."


Everyone's stomach is the same damn size.
When they have a medical procedure (like the lap band), they are merely making the stomach smaller than what it NORMALLY IS
They're NOT returning the stomach back to it's normal size, because it's been "stretched out"

Plenty of people have lost weight without any medical intervention.
What makes them any different from anyone else?
They lost the weight with exercise and better diet, plain and simple.

Stop being an enabler and providing even more excuses for poor health choices and lack of motivation!!!

Given that obesity results from food intake greater than energy needs, a fascinating question has been whether obese individuals have a larger stomach capacity. Previous studies using an intragastric balloon to assess stomach capacity showed that it was larger in both moderately and severely obese individuals (1) (2) . These conclusions were made from subjective criteria based on the maximal volume that the subject tolerated as well as from more objective criteria based on intragastric pressure or compliance.

You can read more about this at obesityresearch.org

 

[XXXplosive]

I guess skinny people are just better than us.

You're a guy who ignores everything but what you want to see in a situation, and in this case, all you're gaining is a false sense of superiority to those who have different struggles in life than you do. After all, if your struggles are something that ain't obviously apparent the moment people see you, then they aren't really problems, are they?

And do you really think everyone's stomach's the same size, too? which is why everyone eats exactly the same amount to feel full?

So yes, I guess it's all in our heads, those of us who struggle with weight. Yeah, must be all the women telling fat guys we're sexy. I mean, since all human's bodies are exactly the same, and any difference in physical appearance, to your logic, is just laziness, so plain and so simple.

Some people can't see past their own nose to realize everybody doesn't get dealt the same hand. You're like the white guys, thinking black people are just lazy, and that's why we're struggling. Not quite malicious, but willfully ignorant, so they can feel legit about thinking they're better than the negros.

Yet more learned SELF HELPLESSNESS

Now you're comparing being overweight to being systematically discriminated against because of race??? Wow.

So what are you gonna do since you claim your weight is completely out of your hands??
Just give up??? Just like that??? There's no hope???

 

[XXXplosive]

Given that obesity results from food intake greater than energy needs, a fascinating question has been whether obese individuals have a larger stomach capacity. Previous studies using an intragastric balloon to assess stomach capacity showed that it was larger in both moderately and severely obese individuals (1) (2) . These conclusions were made from subjective criteria based on the maximal volume that the subject tolerated as well as from more objective criteria based on intragastric pressure or compliance.

You can read more about this at obesityresearch.org

Simple question:

Why are some overweight people able to eventually lose weight and keep it off without medical intervention?

 

[AgentCreed]

Fuck It, I'll take the pussy however it cuums!!!!! The bigger the berry the jucier the cherry, shitttt!!!

u'd fuck mo'nique?

 

[destrehan]

I hope that you are being sarcastic. Because even if this were true this does not excuse a hoe from being out of shape. Walking is free. Any woman can "walk" to stay in shape.

ON a 2nd note an "individual woman" needs to stop blaming all "niggas" for bad decisions that she makes. I fully admit that there are plenty of trifling, sorry azz Niggas on the face of the planet. But unless a woman wa RAPED she chose to lay down with a SORRY NIGGA. Then she CHOSE to reproduce with a sorry Nigga. Then they expect "assistance". Forget that! Black women need to make better individual decisions with their pussy. If a Nigga aint give you a ring...why the hell would you choose to reproduce with him?

man way to go. that bitch femme is an idiot. lol @ her lisp. damn that show is crap.

 

[DiamondDeuce]

My trainer always says this to me and his other black clients:


White women put fitness first, black women put fitness last.


And I agree with him. It's simply a matter of priorities and alot of it has to do with social and economic differences.

For example, one of the white girls I was training with had to stop because her husband said they could no longer afford it. Mind you, she does not work. A week later she came back to the gym, saying she pleaded with her husband and they decided he would work a few extra hours and they'd cut down on some things, so she could continue paying our trainer.

So it is clear that even white men see the importance of fitness for their women and will do what it takes to support that lifestyle.

Now I on the other hand, I would approach my trainer, who is black, and we'd work out a deal. But that's because he is supportive of any sista in the gym. I am lucky for that.

But what would you guys do in that very same situation?

I see the importance of fitness .. but again everything is priorities. If we are on hard times like that you can't afford ($30- $60 per month for the gym)... then you "compromise" that makes sense.

I would tell my wife either
A: Continue to go to the gym and not pay for a personal trainer (if she is paying a trainer seperate from gym fees)
B: If we so bad off that $30-$60 is gonna make or break us. Then her she needs to get some cheap Tae-Bo dvds off Ebay and work out at home. Until we can afford to do better.

 

[AgentCreed]

I like delicious food and fat bitches. Sue me.

Would u fuck mo'nique also? u know she'd eat all your food right?

 

[Mt. Yukon]

Yeah, y'all leave them with 2-3 kids, no assistance and then they're left to feed on Church's.

You cant really believe this statement can you??? What dont you women get??? You are responsible for your decisions. Simple as that, you made a bad choice in choosing that dude, he left you with 3 kids. Its YOUR fault. You got fat after having kids because you eat fast food everyday, its YOUR fault. When I gained 20lbs after highschool it was MY fault and I decided to make a change in the way I went through my day. Why cant you chicks do the same. This shit amazes me, the unaccountability of our sisters with something as simple as their own fucking health.

 

[Jam_Jam]

Simple question:

Why are some overweight people able to eventually lose weight and keep it off without medical intervention?

Those that lose weight and keep it off change their lifestyles. They make diet or lifestyle changes and they stick with it. This is where the will-power and determination come into play. Some people, no matter how hard they try, cannot lose weight. Those people go to extreme measures like gastric bypass and bands.

Genetics do come into play. If you notice, people gain weight in certain parts of their body. Some people are prone to gaining weight in their hips and thighs while others gain in their stomachs. Weight is a very complicated issue. What works for one person doesn't necessarily work for someone else.

I am not an enabler, I just understand that different people have different issues. I work a job where I sit on my butt all day. I work with many obese people (male and female). They always talk about diets, but never seem to lose any weight.

I have empathy for some of them because they do make an effort. It amazes me how weight issues affect their self-esteem. I also understand that I could be one of them. I like to eat just like the next person. Fortunately, I am 5'10 and I go to the gym. If I were 5'2 I might have a weight problem.

 

[smoovejazz]

Ninjas fuck fat sloppy hoes cause they're easy to fuck.

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These days, not necessarily..."Fat" girl's heads are souped up like thin ones...so now they think that they're all that, and trying to be selective.

I personally love thick women...and yes, I have seen some women that may be "fat", but they are really pretty in the face, and they carry themselves well. There has to be a limit, however. Forget about being attractive to someone else...for your own health, you should want to be healthier to prevent problems later on. That said, I have seen some women that are thick (or fat, depending on who's judging) that are attractive.

Now, Aretha...back in her day, she was pretty attractive (I'll give her as recently as 20 years ago). But now, when one of her breasts equal three good sized breasts, and she still insists on wearing spaghetti-strap dresses where the strings are screaming for help...and her arms, which are too short to box with God, but too big to take on anyone else...and she swears she looks cute...she needs an intervention. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Aretha (or Urethra, or Urefra Frankrin, as some of us may call her - some people need to get it right) , but she does need some help.

Oh, and yes, I would get with Mo'Nique. As raunchy as she is, I get the feeling that it would be fun...

 

[THE DRIZZY]

I blame Mo'nique for telling other black women it is okay to be fat.

 

[Jam_Jam]

These days, not necessarily..."Fat" girl's heads are souped up like thin ones...so now they think that they're all that, and trying to be selective.

I personally love thick women...and yes, I have seen some women that may be "fat", but they are really pretty in the face, and they carry themselves well. There has to be a limit, however. Forget about being attractive to someone else...for your own health, you should want to be healthier to prevent problems later on. That said, I have seen some women that are thick (or fat, depending on who's judging) that are attractive.

Now, Aretha...back in her day, she was pretty attractive (I'll give her as recently as 20 years ago). But now, when one of her breasts equal three good sized breasts, and she still insists on wearing spaghetti-strap dresses where the strings are screaming for help...and her arms, which are too short to box with God, but too big to take on anyone else...and she swears she looks cute...she needs an intervention. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Aretha (or Urethra, or Urefra Frankrin, as some of us may call her - some people need to get it right) , but she does need some help.

Oh, and yes, I would get with Mo'Nique. As raunchy as she is, I get the feeling that it would be fun...

You're a comedian. A friend of mine is obese, but has a pretty face. She says that she would rather be fat and pretty as opposed to skinny and ugly. This is how she justifies her weight issues.

 

[buffdaddy]

I'm no fan of claiming "thick" when a girl is fat. But I personally been fighting a weight problem my whole life, so I know it ain't easy. Think about it like this: what if you were addicted to a drug that you HAD to have to survive? I can go without eating for days at a time. But the problem is, just about every time you eat something when you're dieting, it doesn't fill you up, it just makes you hungrier, until you give your body plenty of what it REALLY wants, which is inevitably something high in calories. 20 lbs or celery sticks would make me hungrier with each bite, and only a big slice of cake or a burger would make me stop thinking about food for a while. And thinking about food wears on you, it only takes one moment of weakness or lost focus.

And claiming there is no "fat gene" is obviously wrong. You telling me, thin people are thinner because they know more about weight loss? You've clearly never had a weight problem. It's not a simple thing, you're talking about body chemistry, the way it effects your mind and perceptions here, your energy levels, all of that. Man, few years back I lost like a hundred pounds, had some health issues, gained it back. But I have had a thinner roommate since then who tried to give me advice on weight loss, man had never been on a diet or in a gym his whole life. Unlike me, he never had to think about staying thin, no point on educating himself about it.

It's not all genetics, but don't think that there "is no fat gene." By the way, I know how to lose weight because I have been educated on the subject, but knowing how to do something isn't the same as having the strength to overcome genetics or a mentality, whatever you want to call it.

I do notice that some peoples body types are built for holding weight... I believe that some people cannot get the "thin" look, due to genetics. For example look at a chick like Ashanti, the way she is built she will never be thin by the looks of her frame. Even if she lost weight she will always have thighs and legs.......... which goes back to body type and genetics... Thats why some ppl can eat everything and not gain and others can look at a piece of cake and balloon...thats genetic..and the body type is genetic as well

 

[Mt. Yukon]

These days, not necessarily..."Fat" girl's heads are souped up like thin ones...so now they think that they're all that

Aint that the muthafuckin truth, I remember there was cute chubby chick I was tryin to holla at and this bitch was bobbing and weaving like a pro boxer. I mean her ass really thought she was the shit. I just thought she would be a cool ass chick to chill with or whatever, I wasnt even feelin her physically like that. Yeah she was cute, but damn she wasnt a fuckin dime. Shit like this has become the norm in recent years. Hell its easier sometimes to holla at dimes nowadays.

 

[XXXplosive]

Those that lose weight and keep it off change their lifestyles. They make diet or lifestyle changes and they stick with it. This is where the will-power and determination come into play. Some people, no matter how hard they try, cannot lose weight. Those people go to extreme measures like gastric bypass and bands.

Thank you.
This is exactly the point I am trying to get through.
And you're right, there are some people that are born with abnormalities that makes it almost impossible to lose weight.
However, ALL the overweight people in this country (and the 70% of black women) can't possibly all have the same kind of condition.

 

[Jam_Jam]

Thank you.
This is exactly the point I am trying to get through.
And you're right, there are some people that are born with abnormalities that makes it almost impossible to lose weight.
However, ALL the overweight people in this country (and the 70% of black women) can't possibly all have the same kind of condition.

That's the whole point. People are different. Not everyone has what it takes to lose weight just like not everyone has what it takes to make money. The thing is you have to have empathy for those that can't do it on their own. If you are strong-willed, attractive, and have never had to battle weight issues, consider yourself blessed. I understand that I am blessed to look the way that I do. My mother could have married another man and I could have been born genetically challenged.

If 70% of black women are overweight it is because of our diets. We love greasy, unhealthy food and many of us don't exercise. That is a recipe for disaster. Not to start a whole new debate, but black men do play a part in the obesity rates of black women. Just go to the club and see how many fat women are wearing tight outfits with fat hanging everywhere. They wouldn't be wearing that shit if someone hadn't told them they looked good. Too many of us are suffering from "if it ain't broke don't fix it syndrome".

 

[oatsuzn]

Yeah, y'all leave them with 2-3 kids, no assistance and then they're left to feed on Church's.

Now, Femme I would expect a more intellectual comment comming from you, but I guess you being a Black woman in America, you just can't help it.

There are 2 reasons why the majority of Black mothers are single moms.

(1)
Black women have very low standards when it comes to the family structure. They're so used to seeing single moms, and broken families, that they don't demand a husband because they are bred to think it's ok to raise kids alone. Instead they date/ fuck the neighborhood thug or someone they know isn't going to work! So when they do get pregnant and the low life thug gets locked up, beats on her, or just plain isn't there for them, then they cry the "black man aint shit" theme. What kills me is most of these baby mommas have one kid with a guy and then they go and have another 2 more. They never get engaged or married, they are content with being a BABY MOMMA...SAD

(2)
Black women refuse to use birth control. It amazes me all the excuses I've heard over the years. Black women there are hundreds of forms of birth control, u can not be allergic to all of them! I find that the women don't want kids, don't have kids! My ex used the nueva ring, she was the one Black women that used birth control out of countless I've met that didn't.

It's sad that many Black women have this fucked up view of Black men. I guess thats why I'm 26 in NY making 6 figures college educated and single. Maybe because I refuse to have a baby momma? who knows

 

[Cleopatra_J]

Weight is such a sensitive topic because everyone has their own different views. What works for Jane may not work for Jenny. I have very thin friends who don't have to do anything to lose weight, whereas I fight to get thin. Sure I know that I need to cut out some of the junk food I eat. I know I can't have a salad for lunch and for midday snack have a snickers... It doesn't work like that, but for some people alternatives aren't there. For instance I live in a dorm, we don't have a kitchen. Food at the dining hall sucks!! And what do they have in the student center: Burger King, Pizza, and Chinese Food-all unhealthy options. Whereas my thin friends live at home and have better options when it comes to food, do I blame them.. NO

Metabolism plays a large part of it also. I drink water constantly, several bottles a day, whereas my roommate barely drinks a bottle a week, but yet she's a size 4 and i'm not. Do I blame her for me being bigger, NO.. but I do envy her. People know what they need to do. I know I need to goto the gym, so I try to go. Everything is easier said than done. It's easier for people to blame the man who made them angry for the reason they ate that tub of ice cream or that whole bag of chips. If your fat/thick or whatever, you can't blame anyone but yourself. No one can help you but yourself. You can't do what others do to lose weight.. you can't think because you take a dietary supplement and don't exercise you'll lose weight..

Sorry for my rant or if I got off topic.. but its a darn shame if someone blames someone else for their weight problems. YOUR body is the only thing you have complete control over, so please take care of it. Dont go to the gym because you want to look like Beyonce, go because you want to look better for yourself and you want to live long.

 

[John_Gault]

e you take a dietary supplement and don't exercise you'll lose weight..

Sorry for my rant or if I got off topic.. but its a darn shame if someone blames someone else for their weight problems. YOUR body is the only thing you have complete control over, so please take care of it. Dont go to the gym because you want to look like Beyonce, go because you want to look better for yourself and you want to live long.

"PROPER" EXERCISE IS THE GREAT EQUALIZER . . . .PERIOD.

JG

 

[D Town Redd]

 

[LordSinister]

come on dog skinny bitches are easy to fuck too - fat bitches aint all sluts and mad sluts are slim, thick etc

sluts are easy to fuck - alot of non-sluts are easy to fuck

True, but the fat bitch down the street with three kids that still clubs, is hella easy to smash.

How many times have you seen a Ninja holla at a sloppy fat bitch and tell her she's "Thick?"

 

[Makkonnen]

True, but the fat bitch down the street with three kids that still clubs, is hella easy to smash.

How many times have you seen a Ninja holla at a sloppy fat bitch and tell her she's "Thick?"

never heard no one say that cept on the internet
ive seen dudes tell fat chicks who were pretty that they were pretty and avoid the weight issue
Man, the finest chicks Ive smashed - girlfriend or jumpoff - all dimes - I fucked all but maybe 3 or 4 within a day or two. All squares too.
Most of the skankiest bitches Ive known and fucked werent fat. Honestly, if you got game, are a good person, easy to talk to, handsome, in shape or got some cash or have none of that shit pussy is easy to get.

 

[XXXplosive]

That's the whole point. People are different. Not everyone has what it takes to lose weight just like not everyone has what it takes to make money. The thing is you have to have empathy for those that can't do it on their own. If you are strong-willed, attractive, and have never had to battle weight issues, consider yourself blessed. I understand that I am blessed to look the way that I do. My mother could have married another man and I could have been born genetically challenged.

If 70% of black women are overweight it is because of our diets. We love greasy, unhealthy food and many of us don't exercise. That is a recipe for disaster. Not to start a whole new debate, but black men do play a part in the obesity rates of black women. Just go to the club and see how many fat women are wearing tight outfits with fat hanging everywhere. They wouldn't be wearing that shit if someone hadn't told them they looked good. Too many of us are suffering from "if it ain't broke don't fix it syndrome".

That's not starting a whole, new debate
That's what this debate is about in the first place, LOL.

This debate is about whether black men are to blame for 70% of sistas being overweight.
You just stated that black women are overweight because of their diet and lack of exercise
But then in the same breath you say that it's because black men at the club are sweating fat chicks
Those brothas at the club that do sweat fat broads are ENABLERS, like I was mentioning earlier in this thread
Are the white men who like fat women responsible for all the fat white women too??

The problem is that in the black community, being fat is the new skinny
Fat black women will talk shit and dog out other black women who are in shape and accuse them of being anorexic or trying to "be white"
I had this sista (who was a little on the thin side, but still in good shape) at my old job who got dogged out all the time by the fat, single mothers about being too skinny.
They would always tell her to "put some meat on them bones" and call her "rattle me bones" and shit like that

Like I said, it's as if being a skinny black woman is the worst thing in the world you could be but being fat is the norm....even amongst women

 

[XXXplosive]

Weight is such a sensitive topic because everyone has their own different views. What works for Jane may not work for Jenny. I have very thin friends who don't have to do anything to lose weight, whereas I fight to get thin. Sure I know that I need to cut out some of the junk food I eat. I know I can't have a salad for lunch and for midday snack have a snickers... It doesn't work like that, but for some people alternatives aren't there. For instance I live in a dorm, we don't have a kitchen. Food at the dining hall sucks!! And what do they have in the student center: Burger King, Pizza, and Chinese Food-all unhealthy options. Whereas my thin friends live at home and have better options when it comes to food, do I blame them.. NO

Metabolism plays a large part of it also. I drink water constantly, several bottles a day, whereas my roommate barely drinks a bottle a week, but yet she's a size 4 and i'm not. Do I blame her for me being bigger, NO.. but I do envy her. People know what they need to do. I know I need to goto the gym, so I try to go. Everything is easier said than done. It's easier for people to blame the man who made them angry for the reason they ate that tub of ice cream or that whole bag of chips. If your fat/thick or whatever, you can't blame anyone but yourself. No one can help you but yourself. You can't do what others do to lose weight.. you can't think because you take a dietary supplement and don't exercise you'll lose weight..

Sorry for my rant or if I got off topic.. but its a darn shame if someone blames someone else for their weight problems. YOUR body is the only thing you have complete control over, so please take care of it. Dont go to the gym because you want to look like Beyonce, go because you want to look better for yourself and you want to live long.

Well stated.

In the end, you can only help YOURSELF, no one else.

 

[Laughing Man]

That's not starting a whole, new debate
That's what this debate is about in the first place, LOL.

This debate is about whether black men are to blame for 70% of sistas being overweight.
You just stated that black women are overweight because of their diet and lack of exercise
But then in the same breath you say that it's because black men at the club are sweating fat chicks
Those brothas at the club that do sweat fat broads are ENABLERS, like I was mentioning earlier in this thread
Are the white men who like fat women responsible for all the fat white women too??

The problem is that in the black community, being fat is the new skinny
Fat black women will talk shit and dog out other black women who are in shape and accuse them of being anorexic or trying to "be white"
I had this sista (who was a little on the thin side, but still in good shape) at my old job who got dogged out all the time by the fat, single mothers about being too skinny.
They would always tell her to "put some meat on them bones" and call her "rattle me bones" and shit like that

Like I said, it's as if being a skinny black woman is the worst thing in the world you could be but being fat is the norm....even amongst women

I guess they dont like being reminded of what they had and lost though thier own laziness and neglect, and try to bring down people to thier own level like Mo'Nique and Star Jones, hell even she went under the knife and made her ass look like a major alien looking hypocrite

So, if you speak proper diction and value education, you are a sellout and trying to be white, if you are skinny and trying to be healthy, you a sellout and trying to be white, thats some ignant nigga logic right there, hope that girl you mention didnt subscribed to those bitter pills

 

[Laughing Man]

^^^^^bump

 

[dzlkdd]

Yet more learned SELF HELPLESSNESS

Now you're comparing being overweight to being systematically discriminated against because of race??? Wow.

So what are you gonna do since you claim your weight is completely out of your hands??
Just give up??? Just like that??? There's no hope???

Of course not, that's not even close to my point. My point is, you're talking about something with extraordinary confidence that you don't understand. And in your heart you've no desire to understand, much like the racist white guys I mentioned... AND the real reason I believe people do this with fat people, black people, the homeless, gays, whoever... is so that A. you can insult a certain group without guilt and b. you can feel like you're better than they are.

Make no mistake, I'm sure there are people who simply can't beat it. But I remember once, someone said to me "why don't you just lose weight?" Like it was just a matter of going out and buying a de-fattenizer pill. What I'm saying about your comments is that lots of thing you are saying you are really mincing semantics... Claiming there is no fat gene by saying not all fat people have fat children, which is like saying there is no bald gene... Frankly, it ignores the entire way genes work. And you keep making statements like that over and over, arguments that fall apart at the most basic levels, all with the end point of saying "You fat people have no one to blame but yourselves." It probably bugs me because sure, it's possible to lose weight, but you clearly have no concept of what factors sabotage us or make us heavier in the first place.

Another analogy, it's like when guys like our president, born into wealth and luxury, tell hard-working middle and lower-class people that hard work will bring them success. If instead of the Ws and Paris Hiltons of the world we were hearing it from the Ted Turners and Michael Jordans, people who worked to get what they got, then it's not so insulting.

Your point is that there are modern factors, like laziness, TV and internet addictions and lack of drive that make people tend to gain weight. I'll agree with that point, if you stop trying to claim that genetics don't matter, and that it's easy for all people to lose weight.

Though I'll tell you that the lack of drive comes from lack of reward in a top-heavy society...

I'll also agree that the diets we're passing down, deep fried, pork laden and alcohol assisted, are the real reason we're having problems. I remember once, eating at my mom's and realizing how bad that mentality was for us.

 

[Candee Coated]

damn what the fuck ya'll gotta say about skinny bitches?

the original topic of this thread was bogus to begin with, it's dumb shit like this that always gets us as a people fighting amongst each other over pettiness. when will ya'll learn?

 

[HandsSolo2K5]

It aint MY fault that black women are obese..... The End