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Re: Should Schwarzenegger Grant Tookie Clemency???

shams said:
kid, you cool with me, but you be mad late with the news.

Not. Tookie is still alive, as far as I know. Arnie hasn't made a decision one way or another yet.

BTW, I used to see Arnie's wife, Maria, all the time when I lived in Cali.
 
Re: Should Schwarzenegger Grant Tookie Clemency???

Kid Rasta said:
Not. Tookie is still alive, as far as I know. Arnie hasn't made a decision one way or another yet.

BTW, I used to see Arnie's wife, Maria, all the time when I lived in Cali.

true, but didn't u see the other 5-6 posts that each have like 20 replies about this same topic before u posted. that shit has been posted since friday.
 
Re: Should Schwarzenegger Grant Tookie Clemency???

If Arnold feels he is really rehabilitated and more help to society alive, then he should spare him. A dead man does no good to anyone, but if he is just doing all this as a cover, then he should die for his crimes.
 
Re: Should Schwarzenegger Grant Tookie Clemency???

ahnold will let the girlie man die

he cant be seen as helping a black murderer
 
Re: Tookie will die!

He waited until San Quentin was locked down (1200pm). He knew if he said anything before they were locked down, it would be a riot.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

CNN is reporting (3:35pm) that Gov. Arnold DENIES clemency for
Tookie Williams. Adios Tookie!
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Fam, Took's message is already out there regardless of him being dead.

That's what matters. There's only so many ways to say what he's been saying all these years.

All this says is how Schwarzenegger feels about a black man who's trying to make a difference regardless of his mistakes.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
Re: Tookie will die!

That's, That's, All. Time To Pay The Piper. May He Rest In Peace
 
duh...!

redsox said:
CNN is reporting (3:35pm) that Gov. Arnold DENIES clemency for
Tookie Williams. Adios Tookie!

Duh....!
Lets see now hmmmm... his political career... or the life of a black gang leader...hmmm????
:hmm:
 
Re: Tookie will die!

OK D-NICE, THATS A GOOD POINT. BUT DO U THINK TOOKIE WOULD BE TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF HE HADNT BEEN CONVICTED?
D-Nice 1 said:
Fam, Took's message is already out there regardless of him being dead.

That's what matters. There's only so many ways to say what he's been saying all these years.

All this says is how Schwarzenegger feels about a black man who's trying to make a difference regardless of his mistakes.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
Re: Tookie will die!

damn does this means

1) Crips going go war?
2) Arnold aint coming back.. he just lost the minority votes
3) How the hell they lose the evidence that would establish his gulit or not.
4) Personally why the fuck they ask for a clemency that just saying you are gulity as hell but you want a pass to live in jail. Mofo should have ask for a pardon
5) IF yall West Coaster gonna riot.. please rob the damn banks and Rodeo Drive and Best Buy! lol

but on the real this is some sad shyt
 
Re: Tookie will die!

I wonder how many of these niggas who are claiming Tookie should
be given clemency due to his efforts on behalf of the community
would feel the same if it was there mother or father or uncle
who Tookie was convicted of killing. Would they still be saying he
was wrongfully convicted even though they dont know shit about the
trial or evidence.
Tookie and his team have had 25 years to bring forward evidence
of his innocence. They havent done it. Roll up your sleeve Tookie.
Its time.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Tookie should have taken his death sentence bravely without clamor for clemency. He would have gone down in history as a martyr to many and a role model for redemption. His legacy could've been (to children) "Let my mistakes, redemption and punishment serve as an example to you that though you may make grave mistakes, you can always be redeemed, but still must responsible for the choices you make. Redemption does not mean to be pardoned from responsibilty, but be enlightened, reformed, respectful and responsible whether others forgive/pardon you or not. Remain diligent, yet humble. Seek serenity not validation." Atleast that's what his legacy could've been.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

D-Nice 1 said:
Fam, Took's message is already out there regardless of him being dead.

That's what matters. There's only so many ways to say what he's been saying all these years.

All this says is how Schwarzenegger feels about a black man who's trying to make a difference regardless of his mistakes.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)

i don't know about that. governors don't grant clemency on their personal opinion. there's bullshit to consider. arnold has done work here in the inner city in houston that never received national attention so i can't write him off like that. as a matter of fact that made me think he would grant it.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

EATUGOOD1 said:
OK D-NICE, THATS A GOOD POINT. BUT DO U THINK TOOKIE WOULD BE TRYING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IF HE HADNT BEEN CONVICTED?
It's hard to say EUG1.

Cats go from Saul to Paul everyday so I don't know if Tookie would have changed or not. As things go, he would have probably ended up dead if not where he ended up anyway.....prison.

The "if's" are endless in this but what I do believe is that if he had been paroled, he wouldn't have gone back to gang life.

Again, folks just need to keep pushing his message after he's gone.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Ming Fei Hong said:
Tookie should have taken his death sentence bravely without clamor for clemency.
Good point. If Tookie really was interested in being an example for the
young people of California, he should have said "This is where you will
end up if you follow my example and live a life of crime and violence"
He should go bravely and as an example of how NOT to live ones life.
Instead he punked out and is taking his punishment like a pussy.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

voodoo said:
i don't know about that. governors don't grant clemency on their personal opinion. there's bullshit to consider. arnold has done work here in the inner city in houston that never received national attention so i can't write him off like that. as a matter of fact that made me think he would grant it.


Word many dont know that that meathead actually works in the ghettos. He has an obsession for helping disadvantaged kids. He's genuine about it. All his other views may be fucked but he really cares about the kids. He's always in the hoods in the bay area trying to find ways to fix problems. I highly doubt he's a racist.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Yo Lord Sin!!!!!

Man when them niggas jump shit off up there try and grab a couple nice guitars, and some monitors and shit. Maybe one of them protools joints. Couple drum machines or suttin ya know? Smash and grab nigga smash and grab!
 
Re: Tookie will die!

dacrazydeafdawg said:
damn does this means

1) Crips going go war?
2) Arnold aint coming back.. he just lost the minority votes
3) How the hell they lose the evidence that would establish his gulit or not.
4) Personally why the fuck they ask for a clemency that just saying you are gulity as hell but you want a pass to live in jail. Mofo should have ask for a pardon
5) IF yall West Coaster gonna riot.. please rob the damn banks and Rodeo Drive and Best Buy! lol

but on the real this is some sad shyt

how do u figure this makes him lose his black votes?

the major of blacks dont give a fuck about tookie.....only the gangabngers and snoop and they dont vote!
 
Re: Tookie will die!

LOL whatever happen to going out like a TRU OG... Death before Dishonor, would Dishonor in this case be ole TOOKIE claiming bitch when faced with death. The "I'm ready to die slogan"....Happen to the Crip Code????

Although he's tried to reverse the impact, too late, and time's up. Karma is real. 1 Tookie.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Maddbaron said:
i wonder how many networks r gonna show the new LA riots?

I dont think there will be riots. I think most people know whats up.
Would you be willing to risk your life or property at the hands
of the LAPD for a convicted murderer? Would you hit the streets
knowing the history of the LAPD to protest for a man whos already
dead? Hell naw.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Ming Fei Hong said:
Tookie should have taken his death sentence bravely without clamor for clemency. He would have gone down in history as a martyr to many and a role model for redemption. His legacy could've been (to children) "Let my mistakes, redemption and punishment serve as an example to you that though you may make grave mistakes, you can always be redeemed, but still must responsible for the choices you make. Redemption does not mean to be pardoned from responsibilty, but be enlightened, reformed, respectful and responsible whether others forgive/pardon you or not. Remain diligent, yet humble. Seek serenity not validation." Atleast that's what his legacy could've been.
Good words fella.

D-Nice 1 (The Nice One)
 
Re: Tookie will die!

And by the way... for everyone who questions Tookie's guilt, just know that whether he's innocent of these specific charges or not doesn't change the fact that he was THE HNIC of one of the most murderous street gangs in American history and he didn't earn that position non-violently. Tookie deserves the death penalty for not only all the other people he's personally killed, but also for the people who were killed by the gang violence/environment that he played a key role in creating. Nothing personal, but justice must be served for all those people who weren't given the oppurtunity to have celebrities plea for their live's before Tookie (and the like) killed them in cold blood.
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Niggas dont have a chance if they decide to do dumb shit.
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Re: Tookie will die!

A to Dah K said:
how do u figure this makes him lose his black votes?

the major of blacks dont give a fuck about tookie.....only the gangabngers and snoop and they dont vote!


I didnt say shyt about the black vote Dr Truth! I say minority vote and you can say what you want but I know Arnie didnt get the job just based on his wife's connections.

He is going to lose some of that fund raising money from the minority rich cats... and to say Snoop doesnt vote is pretty comical because he is a registered voter.

And I aint gonna cast the first stone at Tookie but if the man is innocent then he shouldnt go to the chair, they just going to kill him because of the fact he found one of the biggest gang on this planet, hell i hear the terrorist based their model after the crips/bloods organization..... now that some gangsta shyt but the question is it gangsta to die by lethal injection?

I DONT THINK SO!
 
Re: Tookie will die!

Tookie should have taken his death sentence bravely without clamor for clemency. He would have gone down in history as a martyr to many and a role model for redemption. His legacy could've been (to children) "Let my mistakes, redemption and punishment serve as an example to you that though you may make grave mistakes, you can always be redeemed, but still must responsible for the choices you make. Redemption does not mean to be pardoned from responsibilty, but be enlightened, reformed, respectful and responsible whether others forgive/pardon you or not. Remain diligent, yet humble. Seek serenity not validation." Atleast that's what his legacy could've been.


THIS IS THE TRUEST SHIT I HAVE READ TODAY!!!! LET THAT MUFUCKA FRY
 
Re: Tookie will die!

If they riot which I doubt it... where they gonna hit first? Compton?

But seriously one question I have they said the murder occured in 1979... shyt that like 3 decades ago... and that a mighty long time to be on death row.. but the big question is why the fuck they go after a clemency instead of a pardon?

If the man is gulity then you reap what you sow but if ya at the wrong place at the wrong time then you would do everything to get your ass off death row......

i dont condone killing at all only in self defense and when a man hit a woman somebody gonna get hurt and when we goto war......

But on the real - I aint no west coaster but if ya gonna riot.. .PLEASE DONT SHOW YA FACE ON TV!!!!!
 
Re: Tookie will die!

damn my sigmaster is dropping 30ton truth bombs in this thread...........

thats whats up :yes:
 
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