Alien Covenant sucked ass.

Ok here is my opinion....


This shit sucked. It looked amazing. Ridley Scott can make a great looking movie but I can't accept this shit as Cannon. The fucking Android started the franchise. Just think on that for a second... the android. Not natural evolution.... not the engineers... fucking David.

What was the point of the Alien artifacts found in Prometheus....

Also I have to point out that this means that Aliens v Predator and Predator 2... Can't be cannon. The cool part was the way that the movies were set up and even Prometheus... still allowed all these movies to still have a thin connection. It was cool to think that the Alien species had been around thousands of years going from planet to planet fucking up shit because they were the ultimate Species. This movie said.... naw fuck that shit. We created David. Our creation created the Aliens... so technically we created the Aliens????? Come the fuck on... nope I'm done.
 
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Ok here is my opinion....
This shit sucked.


Exactly.

This movie said.... naw fuck that shit. We created David. Our creation created the Aliens... so technically we created the Aliens????? Come the fuck on... nope I'm done.

I told my wife that same thing, in exactly that sequence. They completely fucked the whole idea of the Alien Xenomorphs by destroying the mystery surrouunding them. Shit was utter trash bro
 
Ok here is my opinion....


This shit sucked. It looked amazing. Ridley Scott can make a great looking movie but I can't accept this shit as Cannon. The fucking Android started the franchise. Just think on that for a second... the android. Not natural evolution.... not the engineers... fucking David.

What was the point of the Alien artifacts found in Prometheus.... Also I have to point out that this means that Aliens v Predator and Predator 2... Can't be cannon. The cool part was that the way that the movies were set up and even Prometheus... still allowed all these movies to still have a thin connection. It was cool to think that the Alien species had been around thousands of years going from planet to planet fucking up shit because they were the ultimate Species. This movie said.... naw fuck that shit. We created David. Our creation created the Aliens... so technically we created the Aliens????? Come the fuck on... nope I'm done.

Exactly.



I told my wife that same thing, in exactly that sequence. They completely fucked the whole idea of the Alien Xenomorphs by destroying the mystery surrouunding them. Shit was utter trash bro
So who were the perceived superior species beings from Prometheus? Will they now just be discounted as an advanced alien species that also just fell victim to the Aliens?
 
Also.... the engineers????? All that hype... all that backstory
So who were the perceived superior species beings from Prometheus? Will they now just be discounted as an advanced alien species that also just fell victim to the Aliens?

The way this shit went.... I don't know what happened. All that shit was thrown out... Don't worry about what happened to the Engineers in Prometheus. Doesn't Matter...

David killed the engineers... David created facehugers.... (Why???? Who gives a shit.... Especially since he can somehow spit baby facehuggers from his mouth... Why does he need eggs??? Oh yeah... Who gives a shit??).. The entire franchise has been fucked now. Why do you even need a queen? Why do you even need the different types?
All the mystery is gone... I had this great vision as a child watching this franchise... waiting for the movie that has us taking the fight to the Alien Home world. I no longer care. This is the worst thing to happen to this franchise since Alien v. Predator 1: The rise of the Dreadlocks.

Exactly.



I told my wife that same thing, in exactly that sequence. They completely fucked the whole idea of the Alien Xenomorphs by destroying the mystery surrouunding them. Shit was utter trash bro

It doesn't make any gawd damn sense..... Why even have Prometheus?
 
Thanks for the info, I will wait and download, and save my bread.

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I'll go see it. Don't nobody give a fuck about the Alien lore. You niggas is TOO nerdy.

I wanna see cacs chest bust open and back bust open and head split apart from the Aliens second mouth
 
Then why even call them engineers at this point?... since ummmmmm they didnt even engineer shit.:smh:


The engineers were fucking wasted...
Prometheus ended with this cool idea of Shaw going to the Engineer homewould with this new type of Alien on board. That would have been cool as fuck for the Covenant to land on this planet and you see the Carnage from an evolved version of their creation. We could have the xenomorphs be the result of the combination of the engineer DNA and the alien species... you could have this cool reliazation that the human race has been fighting a evolved version of our creator. Nope...
 
I'll go see it. Don't nobody give a fuck about the Alien lore. You niggas is TOO nerdy.

I wanna see cacs chest bust open and back bust open and head split apart from the Aliens second mouth

A lot of people do.... there are novels, comics, and side projects based on this franchise.
And this movie said... Fuck all your bullshit. Hold my beer.. Ive got this.
 
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They seeded earth with humans.

The problem is why did they show ancient Alien Artifiacts on the planet in Prometheus if the Aliens didn't even exist....

What about all the talk of the black goo being a biological weapon? Why would they create life but then create a means to destroy it?

Why was that Engineer planning on dropping the liquid on Earth?

What happened to the Xenomorph that burst out of the engineers chest during the end credits of Prometheus?


If it isn't obvious Fonz is pissed off this movie... I'm putting this right up there with Ghostbusters and BVS theatrical version.
 
I lot of people do.... there are novels, comics, and side projects based on this franchise.
And this movie said... Fuck all your bullshit. Hold my beer.. Ive got this.

:lol:

They just need to go ahead and come out with another Alien vs Preadator Video Game.

This is about as far as I go with the "Lure". What you niggas know about THIS:
 
The problem is why did they show ancient Alien Artifiacts on the planet in Prometheus if the Aliens didn't even exist....

What about all the talk of the black goo being a biological weapon? Why would they create life but then create a means to destroy it?

Why was that Engineer planning on dropping the liquid on Earth?

What happened to the Xenomorph that burst out of the engineers chest during the end credits of Prometheus?


If it isn't obvious Fonz is pissed off this movie... I'm putting this right up there with Ghostbusters and BVS theatrical version.

The Xeno at the end of Prometheus was called "The Deacon". They did a story about what happened to it in the comics
 
I'd prefer the idea that the Xenomorphs are thier own distinct race and the Engineers using them as weapons or the Engineers simply creatting them as some alien ritual but the circular idea that they weren't that "Alien" at all is a true let down. Like I said, they killed the mystery of the franchise. Yes, everyone has a creator but this bullshit here??? Naw fam...
 
Damn voyuer what's up?

Brother Dray and fonz coming out swinging

I have a couple hours left till the mantee ends

I remember being on my couch watching aliens 2 and bill paxton getting sucked threw the floor
 
The Xeno at the end of Prometheus was called "The Deacon". They did a story about what happened to it in the comics

See this is the Shit that needs be mentioned in the movie.

For example... I didn't know until this morning that there was a prologue to the movie on YouTube that shows Shaw and David between Prometheus and Alien:covenant. It explained why David was back to normal in this movie but the fucked up thing is that the prologue makes you think David started caring for Shaw... None of that was fucking explained in Covenant.

This movie was like Yeah we did a prologue .... shit don't count. Hold my beer.. I've got this.
 
I'll go see it. Don't nobody give a fuck about the Alien lore. You niggas is TOO nerdy.

I wanna see cacs chest bust open and back bust open and head split apart from the Aliens second mouth
:lol: But I actually am disappointed that the shit started with an android in a lab... That let ALL the air out of the balloon. Like once the killer takes off his mask or something. Everything we cooked up in our minds about the Alien universe for decade is over and were left with... A droid... A fucking droid started it... Man, thats some bullshit...
 
:lol: But I actually am disappointed that the shit started with an android in a lab... That let ALL the air out of the balloon. Like once the killer takes off his mask or something. Everything we cooked up in our minds about the Alien universe for decade is over and were left with... A droid... A fucking droid started it... Man, thats some bullshit...
Especially after knowing that they have a queen similar to bugs.
 
The problem is why did they show ancient Alien Artifiacts on the planet in Prometheus if the Aliens didn't even exist....

What about all the talk of the black goo being a biological weapon? Why would they create life but then create a means to destroy it?

Why was that Engineer planning on dropping the liquid on Earth?

What happened to the Xenomorph that burst out of the engineers chest during the end credits of Prometheus?


If it isn't obvious Fonz is pissed off this movie... I'm putting this right up there with Ghostbusters and BVS theatrical version.


I have plausible answers for all of these questions. But can't get to this post right now.
 
Seriously... Anyone that justifies this shit is a crack smoker..

Alien: Covenant – The Xenomorph’s Origins Explained

Alien: Covenant is now in theaters, and while it doesn’t completely bridge the gap between Prometheus and Alien, it does answer one major question: where the franchise’s titular alien came from. Over the course of the movie, it’s revealed that the android David (Michael Fassbender) is the creator of the xenomorph, using gruesome biological experiments to create what he sees as the perfect organism.

When the xenomorph first burst onto our screens in Alien, in 1979, its origins were shrouded in mystery. We knew what it looked like – a ferocious-looking creature, black-skinned, with a sharp, muscular tail, a curved, oblong head, acidic blood that would melt your face off and a powerful inner jaw to knock your brain out too. However, like Ellen Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) and the rest of the Nostromo crew, we didn’t know where it came from or what it wanted – other than to kill every human it came into contact with – and it wasn’t until James Cameron’s Aliens that it was given an actual name. Lieutenant Gorman (William Hope) was the first one to call it the xenomorph, by putting together the Greek words for alien (xeno) and form (morph).

With every new instalment in the Alien franchise, new theories were put forward as to the xenomorph’s back-story, because its creators – Don O’Bannon, Ronald Shushet and Ridley Scott – had held back from actually giving it an official one. Before the arrival of Prometheus, some people had speculated that the parasitic aliens were the alpha predator of their own harsh ecosystem on the planet Xenamorph Prime. After Prometheus, theories focused more on the Engineers being the creators of the savage species.

Now with the arrival of Alien: Covenant, Scott has decided it is time the world knew the truth about his fearsome extra-terrestrial monster, but in order to properly explain the Xenomorph’s origin story, we first need to remind ourselves of some key plot points in Prometheus. At the end of the 2012 movie, Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) escapes on the Engineer’s ship with a decapitated (but still functioning) David (Michael Fassbender) on board and hundreds of cylinders of black liquid – which contain a virulent biological weapon.

We first saw the effects of that liquid on humans when David tainted Charlie Holloway’s (Logan Marshall-Green) drink with it, and when Fifield (Sean Harris) fell face-first into a puddle of it. Holloway was killed before he mutated into the monstrous being Fifield became, which, though deadly, was nothing compared to the xenomorph. Shaw herself “births” her own alien offspring, the trilobite, after having the liquid accidentally sexually transmitted to her by Holloway. She cuts it out of her stomach before it can claw its way out of her, and it ends up latching onto the Engineer, causing a different strand of the alien species, the Deacon (AKA proto-xenomorph) to burst out of its chest. This alien shares a lot of characteristics with the xenomorph but, as we discover in Alien: Covenant, David is to thank for the real thing.

In the new prequel we learn that Shaw and a mended David did arrive on the Engineers’ planet. Shaw had wanted to find out why the Engineers decided to destroy humans, whom the Engineers themselves created, but instead David decides to let the dangerous substance loose on them, subsequently wiping their entire population out. David turns the Engineers’ stronghold into his own personal lab, using the black liquid in experiments to create the first iterations of the alien species. It turns out the alien’s parasitic nature is inherited from the native wasps David had been experimenting on – which lay eggs inside their prey and, upon hatching, the larva eats the prey from the inside out.

Sound familiar?

After exhausting the planet’s creatures and organisms in his experimentations with the black liquid, David ends up “sacrificing” Shaw to his genetic engineering. In a way she was the first queen, as it was through her female reproductive system that he was able to create the eggs containing the facehuggers. However, with no more humans to experiment on, David couldn’t progress any further.

Enter the Covenant crew who descend on the planet after picking up on a transmission of Shaw singing an old John Denver song – a honey pot trap set up by David in order to ensnare any passing human ships. Before they meet David, a couple of crew members are infected by embryotic spores. This leads to a more natural kind of xenomorph – called a neomorph and white in colour – to burst out of one crew member’s back and another’s chest. In comes David to save the remainder of the crew, but obviously not out of the kindness of his synthetic heart. Fresh humans provide just what he needs to take his scientific exploration to the next level and sadly for Captain Oram (Billy Crudup) he becomes David’s new guinea pig.

Oram gets tricked into taking a hugger straight to the face – from the batch of eggs evolved using Shaw – and out of his chest comes David’s “perfect organism” – the first horrifying xenomorph. This creature is the final result of David’s Machiavellian creation cycle – the outcome of his ruthless pursuit to create an alien species far greater than the human that created himself.

:angry:
 
First.

This movie failed as Aliens.
This movie failed as Prometheus.

This movie was Passengers set in the Alien/Prometheus universe.

Spoiler alert.
Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.

David was onboard the Prometheus with the old Weyland,

Walter was created after David but Walter was with the young Weyland back on earth.

The two journeys would have been active at the same time based on the grand distance to travel.

Why does Weyland look 45 with Walter and then 95 with David?

I don't believe this is thee home of the Engineers. Not enough population.
 
David was onboard the Prometheus with the old Weyland,

Walter was created after David but Walter was with the young Weyland back on earth.

The two journeys would have been active at the same time based on the grand distance to travel.

Why does Weyland look 45 with Walter and then 95 with David?

Reading this I'm thinking you didn't see Prometheus nor Covenant
 
First.

This movie failed as Aliens.
This movie failed as Prometheus.

This movie was Passengers set in the Alien/Prometheus universe.

Spoiler alert.
Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.Spoiler alert.

David was onboard the Prometheus with the old Weyland,

Walter was created after David but Walter was with the young Weyland back on earth.

The two journeys would have been active at the same time based on the grand distance to travel.

Why does Weyland look 45 with Walter and then 95 with David?

I don't believe this is thee home of the Engineers. Not enough population.

What? That was David at the beginning of the Movie.
 
Man, this movie was good. Stop tripping.

from the complaints it seems like folks are more disappointed about the big reveal of the origin of the aliens...I can't say I'm surprised tho...there was a quote from david in prometheus that I couldn't let go of...it makes even more sense now re: his motivation behind creating the aliens

...also David had a lot of quotables none of which were by accident which give some insight into his motives...the part about all children wanting their parents dead...I might be reaching but I think there's a lot of resentment in David as he always tryna one-up everyone on some verbal sparring shit...I think his goal is to eliminate mankind...he seemed to respect the "engineers" far more than humans
 
from the complaints it seems like folks are more disappointed about the big reveal of the origin of the aliens...I can't say I'm surprised tho...there was a quote from david in prometheus that I couldn't let go of...it makes even more sense now re: his motivation behind creating the aliens
lol u could tell that nig didn't like humans..he did what most cyborg/robots do in movies which is try to make mankind extinct... he pretty much lived up to his stereotype goin by the feedback
 
Also.... the engineers????? All that hype... all that backstory


The way this shit went.... I don't know what happened. All that shit was thrown out... Don't worry about what happened to the Engineers in Prometheus. Doesn't Matter...

David killed the engineers... David created facehugers.... (Why???? Who gives a shit.... Especially since he can somehow spit baby facehuggers from his mouth... Why does he need eggs??? Oh yeah... Who gives a shit??).. The entire franchise has been fucked now. Why do you even need a queen? Why do you even need the different types?
All the mystery is gone... I had this great vision as a child watching this franchise... waiting for the movie that has us taking the fight to the Alien Home world. I no longer care. This is the worst thing to happen to this franchise since Alien v. Predator 1: The rise of the Dreadlocks.



It doesn't make any gawd damn sense..... Why even have Prometheus?


Yall dudes hurt on a molecular level by this film, huh? It seems like the "Alien" franchise was your star wars and Ridley Scott went from original star wars trilogy George Lucas to prequel trilogy George Lucas. F you brothers ready to jump off a building or some shit.
 
Seriously... Anyone that justifies this shit is a crack smoker..

Alien: Covenant – The Xenomorph’s Origins Explained

Alien: Covenant is now in theaters, and while it doesn’t completely bridge the gap between Prometheus and Alien, it does answer one major question: where the franchise’s titular alien came from. Over the course of the movie, it’s revealed that the android David (Michael Fassbender) is the creator of the xenomorph, using gruesome biological experiments to create what he sees as the perfect organism.

When the xenomorph first burst onto our screens in Alien, in 1979, its origins were shrouded in mystery. We knew what it looked like – a ferocious-looking creature, black-skinned, with a sharp, muscular tail, a curved, oblong head, acidic blood that would melt your face off and a powerful inner jaw to knock your brain out too. However, like Ellen Ripley (Sigourney Weaver) and the rest of the Nostromo crew, we didn’t know where it came from or what it wanted – other than to kill every human it came into contact with – and it wasn’t until James Cameron’s Aliens that it was given an actual name. Lieutenant Gorman (William Hope) was the first one to call it the xenomorph, by putting together the Greek words for alien (xeno) and form (morph).

With every new instalment in the Alien franchise, new theories were put forward as to the xenomorph’s back-story, because its creators – Don O’Bannon, Ronald Shushet and Ridley Scott – had held back from actually giving it an official one. Before the arrival of Prometheus, some people had speculated that the parasitic aliens were the alpha predator of their own harsh ecosystem on the planet Xenamorph Prime. After Prometheus, theories focused more on the Engineers being the creators of the savage species.

Now with the arrival of Alien: Covenant, Scott has decided it is time the world knew the truth about his fearsome extra-terrestrial monster, but in order to properly explain the Xenomorph’s origin story, we first need to remind ourselves of some key plot points in Prometheus. At the end of the 2012 movie, Elizabeth Shaw (Noomi Rapace) escapes on the Engineer’s ship with a decapitated (but still functioning) David (Michael Fassbender) on board and hundreds of cylinders of black liquid – which contain a virulent biological weapon.

We first saw the effects of that liquid on humans when David tainted Charlie Holloway’s (Logan Marshall-Green) drink with it, and when Fifield (Sean Harris) fell face-first into a puddle of it. Holloway was killed before he mutated into the monstrous being Fifield became, which, though deadly, was nothing compared to the xenomorph. Shaw herself “births” her own alien offspring, the trilobite, after having the liquid accidentally sexually transmitted to her by Holloway. She cuts it out of her stomach before it can claw its way out of her, and it ends up latching onto the Engineer, causing a different strand of the alien species, the Deacon (AKA proto-xenomorph) to burst out of its chest. This alien shares a lot of characteristics with the xenomorph but, as we discover in Alien: Covenant, David is to thank for the real thing.

In the new prequel we learn that Shaw and a mended David did arrive on the Engineers’ planet. Shaw had wanted to find out why the Engineers decided to destroy humans, whom the Engineers themselves created, but instead David decides to let the dangerous substance loose on them, subsequently wiping their entire population out. David turns the Engineers’ stronghold into his own personal lab, using the black liquid in experiments to create the first iterations of the alien species. It turns out the alien’s parasitic nature is inherited from the native wasps David had been experimenting on – which lay eggs inside their prey and, upon hatching, the larva eats the prey from the inside out.

Sound familiar?

After exhausting the planet’s creatures and organisms in his experimentations with the black liquid, David ends up “sacrificing” Shaw to his genetic engineering. In a way she was the first queen, as it was through her female reproductive system that he was able to create the eggs containing the facehuggers. However, with no more humans to experiment on, David couldn’t progress any further.

Enter the Covenant crew who descend on the planet after picking up on a transmission of Shaw singing an old John Denver song – a honey pot trap set up by David in order to ensnare any passing human ships. Before they meet David, a couple of crew members are infected by embryotic spores. This leads to a more natural kind of xenomorph – called a neomorph and white in colour – to burst out of one crew member’s back and another’s chest. In comes David to save the remainder of the crew, but obviously not out of the kindness of his synthetic heart. Fresh humans provide just what he needs to take his scientific exploration to the next level and sadly for Captain Oram (Billy Crudup) he becomes David’s new guinea pig.

Oram gets tricked into taking a hugger straight to the face – from the batch of eggs evolved using Shaw – and out of his chest comes David’s “perfect organism” – the first horrifying xenomorph. This creature is the final result of David’s Machiavellian creation cycle – the outcome of his ruthless pursuit to create an alien species far greater than the human that created himself.

:angry:

Although I basically went to see the movie to see people get all sorts of fucked up by aliens, I agree with another review I read that said the prologue should have been the movie. The relationship between David and Shaw, David's experimentation and Shaws willingness to help him, including more information on the engineers, should have been the focal point. Time and proper story telling permitting, the covenant mission could have still been included but as a secondary or tertiary focus.
 
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