After enduring 400 days of possible xenophobia, the Asian community has gotten funds allocated to them

[geechiedan]

"The number of attacks against Asian Americans increased from 161 to 274, the FBI data shows."

Looks like a precise number to me!

yeah...the OTHER PART of that article you neglected to copy and paste:

Federal law requires the FBI to publish annual data on hate crimes. While it is the most comprehensive national data set, the FBI statistics are likely a substantial undercount, as CNN explained, in part because law enforcement agencies are not required to submit data to the FBI. Out of 18,000 law enforcement agencies, more than 3,000 failed to submit crime statistics to the FBI for 2020. The FBI data also does not include incidents that prosecutors, rather than police, decide to charge as hate crimes.

Data from Stop AAPI Hate shows that thousands of hate incidents are likely missing from the FBI data. The group began tracking incidents involving anti-Asian bias last year as verbal and physical assaults on Asian Americans escalated amid high-profile statements wrongly blaming them for the Covid-19 pandemic


soo what exactly are asians getting thats more or different from blacks again???

And you say "the same performative bullshit blacks have been getting". So you acknowledge that Black people only get performative bullshit from the Dems. Which is what I've been saying to you all along.......you AGREE with what we're saying, yet you're arguing anyway!!


I'll say it again........you AGREE with what we're saying, yet you're arguing anyway!!

No, it isn't the exact same game, because Asians do not vote Dem to the same extent as Black people do and do not have an entire political class constantly exhorting them to vote Dem without tangible benefits.

I find it ironic that you don't see how the "Asian hate crime" is being pushed from the Left as they meet with Democratic leaders while the "Asian higher education discrimination" lawsuit is being pushed from the Right by conservatives. They're playing on both sides of the fence. Why aren't we allowed to do that without opposition from people like you?



Ummm....we have. You simply chose not to read it. Can't help you with that.

nothing is stopping the republicans from making a play for the black vote. They just have to do something they are loathed to do which is to make any overt concession even symbolically much less substantively to the black community because it will offend the white vote.

And biden meeting with BTS was bullshit that doesn't mean anything and those mofos are on a private jet back to south korea as we type and you know this

 

[Joe Money]

yeah...the OTHER PART of that article you neglected to copy and paste:

Federal law requires the FBI to publish annual data on hate crimes. While it is the most comprehensive national data set, the FBI statistics are likely a substantial undercount, as CNN explained, in part because law enforcement agencies are not required to submit data to the FBI. Out of 18,000 law enforcement agencies, more than 3,000 failed to submit crime statistics to the FBI for 2020. The FBI data also does not include incidents that prosecutors, rather than police, decide to charge as hate crimes.

Data from Stop AAPI Hate shows that thousands of hate incidents are likely missing from the FBI data. The group began tracking incidents involving anti-Asian bias last year as verbal and physical assaults on Asian Americans escalated amid high-profile statements wrongly blaming them for the Covid-19 pandemic


soo what exactly are asians getting thats more or different from blacks again???

Let's follow the logic here Geechie. If hate incidents are being undercounted across the board, then wouldn't it logically follow that there are a lot MORE hate crimes and incidents being committed against Blacks as well, since we lead in the stats of the incidents that ARE counted???

nothing is stopping the republicans from making a play for the black vote. They just have to do something they are loathed to do which is to make any overt concession even symbolically much less substantively to the black community because it will offend the white vote.

And what's stopping Biden and the Democrats from pushing significant initiatives and legislation for the Black community?....................... Oh yeah, it's the same reason!

As I said, you agree with what we say yet what to argue anyway. Makes no sense.

 

[geechiedan]

Let's follow the logic here Geechie. If hate incidents are being undercounted across the board, then wouldn't it logically follow that there are a lot MORE hate crimes and incidents being committed against Blacks as well, since we lead in the stats of the incidents that ARE counted???

youd have to ask local LE from around the country if there are differences in reporting from group to group.

And what's stopping Biden and the Democrats from pushing significant initiatives and legislation for the Black community?....................... Oh yeah, it's the same reason!

As I said, you agree with what we say yet what to argue anyway. Makes no sense.

yet between the two parties which would be the better bet of getting anything done is any fashion??? for example any advancement for reparations thats happening in any way shape or form is coming thru which of the 2 major political parties??

All I need is one answer not an evasive dissertation homie....

 

[Joe Money]

youd have to ask local LE from around the country if there are differences in reporting from group to group.

So you trust local LE to report that? Okay......

yet between the two parties which would be the better bet of getting anything done is any fashion??? for example any advancement for reparations thats happening in any way shape or form is coming thru which of the 2 major political parties??

All I need is one answer not an evasive dissertation homie....

I believe we've had this discussion before in the reparations thread and your answer is in there: https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/a-blueprint-for-reparations.1098307/

For the record, why should I answer any of your questions when you never answer mine? And why do you ask the same questions that have been answered elsewhere?

 

[BKF]

So why are you using a Libertartian thinktank as your source on socialism?

And how did our "scorched-Earth view" lead to a conservative Supreme Court?

The source definition of socialism is the same as supersav. So you have a moot point. Secondly I already answered your question in my original post.

 

[geechiedan]

So you trust local LE to report that? Okay......



I believe we've had this discussion before in the reparations thread and your answer is in there: https://www.bgol.us/forum/threads/a-blueprint-for-reparations.1098307/

For the record, why should I answer any of your questions when you never answer mine? And why do you ask the same questions that have been answered elsewhere?

I did answer you questions you just dont like the answers..

and you avoided the question. but we know what the answer is so why act like theres a choice in the first place. you can't leverage your vote against the dems when the republicans DONT WANT YOUR VOTE TO BEGIN WITH. If anything they'd rather you didn't vote and your buddies are more than willing to accommodate that arent they?

 

[Supersav]

My source is my own research and knowledge. I sent you a yahoo article because you wanted something else

The source definition of socialism is the same as supersav. So you have a moot point. Secondly I already answered your question in my original post.

 

[BKF]

My source is my own research and knowledge. I sent you a yahoo article because you wanted something else

Funny but when I quoted from that article you dismissed it as American media. Obviously you didn't read the article but just the headline.

 

[Joe Money]

The source definition of socialism is the same as supersav.

No, you said this:

Can you name a successful socialist country?
If there is one, then why are you still living in the USA?
What then was socialism?

" Socialism was an economic system where the means of production (e.g., factories), capital (i.e., banks), and agricultural land (i.e., farms) were owned by the state. In some socialist countries, like Poland, small privately owned farms were allowed to operate. In other countries, like Yugoslavia, small mom‐and‐pop shops also remained in private ownership. Strict limits on private enterprise limited accumulation of wealth and supposedly provided for a relatively high degree of income equality.


Two important caveats need to be kept in mind. First, lack of private enterprise resulted in low economic growth and, consequently, low standards of living. Thus, while income equality was relatively high (if party bosses and their cronies were excluded from the calculations), people in Soviet‐bloc countries were much poorer than their counterparts in the West. Nobody has yet figured out a way of combining genuine socialism with high rates of growth over a long period of time.


Second, top members of the communist parties, which ran socialist countries, were generally exempted from limits on wealth accumulation. As such, communist leaders from Josip Broz Tito in Yugoslavia to Kim Il Sung in North Korea enjoyed luxuries unimaginable to the rest of the populace.

Most importantly, top members of the government were above the law. They could not be accused, arrested, or convicted of ordinary or even extraordinary crimes (e.g., Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot). As such, inequality of status between the governing class and the governed masses in socialist countries was as great, if not greater, as it was under feudalism."

Which is an [uncredited] cut-and-paste job from the CATO Institute: https://www.cato.org/commentary/bernie-not-socialist-america-not-capitalist, a LIBERTARIAN thinktank founded by one of the Koch brothers!! Just intellectually dishonest as a mofo!!!

[ So you have a moot point. Secondly I already answered your question in my original post.

Oh, that's right, you said this...........

It seems you folks don't get it because you guys have tunnel vission. This case is before a majority conservative court. When it was pointed out back when Hillary was running against Trump to be president that there will be Supreme Court opening occurring. Well it didn't seemmto be a factor in you guys scorched Earth/dems are the same/voting don't matter crusade.

So you credit Trump's win in 2016 to a lack of Black turnout???

 

[Joe Money]

I did answer you questions you just dont like the answers..

I asked 3 direct questions:

1. Reported where? It’s not in the link you posted (concerning Steve Harvey, Kanye, and opioids).
2. And what pressing legislation had recently passed and prominent Supreme Court cases being argued that were relevant to anything Steve Harvey was meeting with Trump about?
3. And what's stopping Biden and the Democrats from pushing significant initiatives and legislation for the Black community?

None of these were answered AT ALL!

and you avoided the question. but we know what the answer is so why act like theres a choice in the first place. you can't leverage your vote against the dems when the republicans DONT WANT YOUR VOTE TO BEGIN WITH. If anything they'd rather you didn't vote and your buddies are more than willing to accommodate that arent they?

I haven't avoided the question since there is a whole thread where it has been discussed that you're aware of. But for whatever reason, you want to pivot this discussion about Biden meeting with BTS to a discussion that has been had in another, more relevant thread.

Better yet, why don't you bump YOUR own thread about Biden's Lift Every Voice plan from 2020 and the actions that he's taken on it?

The PITCH TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY: BIDEN PLAN VS TRUMPS "PLATINUM" PLAN - which is more comprehensive to you?

LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA The Biden Plan for Black America will: Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps. Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system. Make...

www.bgol.us

 

[geechiedan]

I asked 3 direct questions:

1. Reported where? It’s not in the link you posted (concerning Steve Harvey, Kanye, and opioids).
2. And what pressing legislation had recently passed and prominent Supreme Court cases being argued that were relevant to anything Steve Harvey was meeting with Trump about?
3. And what's stopping Biden and the Democrats from pushing significant initiatives and legislation for the Black community?

None of these were answered AT ALL!



I haven't avoided the question since there is a whole thread where it has been discussed that you're aware of. But for whatever reason, you want to pivot this discussion about Biden meeting with BTS to a discussion that has been had in another, more relevant thread.

Better yet, why don't you bump YOUR own thread about Biden's Lift Every Voice plan from 2020 and the actions that he's taken on it?

The PITCH TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY: BIDEN PLAN VS TRUMPS "PLATINUM" PLAN - which is more comprehensive to you?

LIFT EVERY VOICE: THE BIDEN PLAN FOR BLACK AMERICA The Biden Plan for Black America will: Advance the economic mobility of African Americans and close the racial wealth and income gaps. Expand access to high-quality education and tackle racial inequity in our education system. Make...

www.bgol.us

the article I posted came from here: https://afro.com/jim-brown-says-he-and-kanye-were-treated-beautifully-at-their-meeting-with-trump/

as far as legislation and scotus goes...we've talked about just the how effective that is and will be for asians in RT. the crime bill is nothing more than data mining and scotus is a cac driven plan to undermine AA that will benefit them more than asians at the end of the day.

the comparison to black celebs and trump was to illustrate just how ineffective celebrity input on the political front is for their respective communities. The fact that you question or have no idea what the results were proves my point.

the whole point of all of the is to dispel the notion that the president meeting with a foreign pop band was some kind of advancement of an agenda thats leaps and bounds ahead of anything that blacks are getting/have gotten from political parties when our celebs met with them.

 

[pimp1101]

Don't waste your time man. He simply doesn't get it.

Yea, I know.

Maybe i should be asking less "hard-hitting" questions such as:

"So how did Jim Clyburn's fish fry go?"

or

"I heard the Dems are handing out 4 cans of black-eyed peas and greens. Do you think they should be handing out more than that?"

 

[geechiedan]

Yea, I know.

Maybe i should be asking less "hard-hitting" questions such as:

"So how did Jim Clyburn's fish fry go?"

or

"I heard the Dems are handing out 4 cans of black-eyed peas and greens. Do you think they should be handing out more than that?"

and what do you think is going to be the result if that meeting specifically? is that a simple enough question?

 

[Supersav]

 

[pimp1101]

and what do you think is going to be the result if that meeting specifically? is that a simple enough question?

and what do you think is going to be the result if that meeting specifically? is that a simple enough question?

I already posted the answer to this already

But to go somewhat into depth, the difference is when BTS met with Biden there was a crime bill for them in place at the federal AND state level which was.......





Enforced!

and by the way it took them nearly 3 weeks to finally charge the Buffalo shooter with a hate crime whereas it took them 3 days to arrest AND charge the guy in NEW YORK with a hate crime.

Man arrested in connection to attacks on 7 Asian women in New York City

Man arrested in connection to attacks on 7 Asian women in New York City

He is facing multiple charges, including assault as a hate crime.

www.cbsnews.com

See the difference?

 

[geechiedan]

I already posted the answer to this already

But to go somewhat into depth, the difference is when BTS met with Biden there was a crime bill for them in place at the federal AND state level which was.......





Enforced!

and by the way it took them nearly 3 weeks to finally charge the Buffalo shooter with a hate crime whereas it took them 3 days to arrest AND charge the guy in NEW YORK with a hate crime.

Man arrested in connection to attacks on 7 Asian women in New York City

Man arrested in connection to attacks on 7 Asian women in New York City

He is facing multiple charges, including assault as a hate crime.

www.cbsnews.com

See the difference?

WHATS IN THE ANTI ASIANS HATE CRIME BILL..WHAT ARE THE DETAILS...GO THRU IT AND CHECK IT!!!! pretend its the Anti Black Crime Bill because the only times you guys look for details is when its black..but anyone else you just go by the title and run with that.

 

[BKF]

The "gay bill"

The Matthew Shepard And James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act Of 2009

Remarks by the President at Reception Commemorating the Enactment of the Hate Crimes Prevention Act

Testimony of Attorney General Eric H. Holder, Jr. before the Senate Judiciary Committee (PDF)

The Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act of 2009, 18 U.S.C. § 249, was enacted as Division E of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2010. Section 249 of Title 18 provides funding and technical assistance to state, local, and tribal jurisdictions to help them to more effectively investigate and prosecute hate crimes.

It also creates a new federal criminal law which criminalizes willfully causing bodily injury (or attempting to do so with fire, firearm, or other dangerous weapon) when:

(1) the crime was committed because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin of any person or (2) the crime was committed because of the actual or perceived religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, or disability of any person and the crime affected interstate or foreign commerce or occurred within federal special maritime and territorial jurisdiction.
The newly enacted § 249 has three significant subsections. Subsection (a)(1) criminalizes violent acts (and attempts to commit violent acts undertaken with a dangerous weapon) when those acts occur because of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, or national origin of any person. This section of the statute has a broader reach than existing hate crime statutes. (18 U.S.C. § 245, for example, requires that government prove not only that the crime was motivated by animus but also because of the victimç´ participation in one of six enumerated federally protected activities). Section 249(a)(1) was passed pursuant to Congress's Thirteenth Amendment authority to eradicate badges and incidents of slavery. The government need prove no other "jurisdictional" element to obtain a conviction.
Subsection (a)(2) of § 249 protects a wider class of victims. Subsection (a)(2) criminalizes acts of violence (and attempts to commit violent acts undertaken with a dangerous weapon) when motivated by the actual or perceived gender, disability, sexual orientation, or gender identity of any person. It will also apply to violent acts motivated by animus against those religions and national origins which were not considered to be "races" at the time the Thirteenth Amendment was passed. This portion of the statute was passed pursuant to Congress's Commerce Clause authority. Thus, to obtain a conviction, the government must prove that the crime was in or affected interstate or foreign commerce. Subsection (a)(2)(B) of the statute contains a detailed description of the ways the commerce clause element may be fulfilled.
Subsection (a)(3) of § 249 provides for prosecution of crimes committed because of any of the characteristics defined in (a)(1) or (a)(2), whenever such crimes occur within the Special Maritime and Territorial Jurisdiction (SMTJ) of the United States.
The statute criminalizes only violent acts resulting in bodily injury or attempts to inflict bodily injury, through the use of fire, firearms, explosive and incendiary devices, or other dangerous weapons. The statute does not criminalize threats of violence. Threats to inflict physical injury may be prosecutable under other hate crimes statutes, such as 42 U.S.C. § 3631 or 18 U.S.C. § 245. Such threats may also be prosecutable under generally applicable federal laws preventing interstate communication of threats.
Read recent opinions addressing constitutional challenges to the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr., Hate Crimes Prevention Act:
United States v. Beebe
United States v. Maybee
Glenn v. Holder

 

[pimp1101]

WHATS IN THE ANTI ASIANS HATE CRIME BILL..WHAT ARE THE DETAILS...GO THRU IT AND CHECK IT!!!! pretend its the Anti Black Crime Bill because the only times you guys look for details is when its black..but anyone else you just go by the title and run with that.

Its telling that you completely ignored the 2nd part of my post......

 

[geechiedan]

Its telling that you completely ignored the 2nd part of my post......

Its telling that you STILL havent read the crime bill.

 

[pimp1101]

Its telling that you STILL havent read the crime bill.

Actually I did read it. I wasn't that long and it got straight to the point.

Without needing to do a study.

 

[geechiedan]

Actually I did read it. I wasn't that long and it got straight to the point.

Without needing to do a study.

really?? what did it state in a nutshell??

 

[pimp1101]

really?? what did it state in a nutshell??

Here you go:

Here's What The New Hate Crimes Law Aims To Do As Attacks On Asian Americans Rise

The legislation, which had overwhelming support in the House and Senate, aims to make reporting hate crimes easier and puts resources into monitoring and preventing those crimes.

www.npr.org

"The legislation, introduced by Rep. Grace Meng, D-N.Y., and Sen. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, aims to make the reporting of hate crimes more accessible at the local and state levels by boosting public outreach and ensuring reporting resources are available online in multiple languages.

It also directs the Department of Justice to designate a point person to expedite the review of hate crimes related to COVID-19 and authorizes grants to state and local governments to conduct crime-reduction programs to prevent and respond to hate crimes.

Which is why i put the second part down about how it was being enforced!

 

[geechiedan]

Here you go:

Here's What The New Hate Crimes Law Aims To Do As Attacks On Asian Americans Rise

The legislation, which had overwhelming support in the House and Senate, aims to make reporting hate crimes easier and puts resources into monitoring and preventing those crimes.

www.npr.org

"The legislation, introduced by Rep. Grace Meng, D-N.Y., and Sen. Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, aims to make the reporting of hate crimes more accessible at the local and state levels by boosting public outreach and ensuring reporting resources are available online in multiple languages.

It also directs the Department of Justice to designate a point person to expedite the review of hate crimes related to COVID-19 and authorizes grants to state and local governments to conduct crime-reduction programs to prevent and respond to hate crimes.

Which is why i put the second part down about how it was being enforced!

ok..lets get to the nitty gritty of what those "crime reduction programs" consist of specifically.... this is from congress website...the actual law:

first the definition of hate crimes then the reason why the bill is neccesary:

(1) The incidence of violence known as hate crimes, or
crimes motivated by bias, poses a serious national problem.
(2) According to data obtained by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, the incidence of such violence increased in 2019,
the most recent year for which data is available.
(3) In 1990, Congress enacted the Hate Crime Statistics Act
(Public Law 101-275; 28 U.S.C. 534 note) to provide the Federal
Government, law enforcement agencies, and the public with data
regarding the incidence of hate crime. The Hate Crime Statistics
Act and the Matthew Shepard and James

[[Page 135 STAT. 267]]

Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act (division E of Public Law
111-84; 123 Stat. 2835) have enabled Federal authorities to
understand and, where appropriate, investigate and prosecute
hate crimes.
(4) A more complete understanding of the national problem
posed by hate crime is in the public interest and supports the
Federal interest in eradicating bias-motivated violence
referenced in section 249(b)(1)(C) of title 18, United States
Code.
(5) However, a complete understanding of the national
problem posed by hate crimes is hindered by incomplete data from
Federal, State, and local jurisdictions through the Uniform
Crime Reports program authorized under section 534 of title 28,
United States Code, and administered by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
(6) Multiple factors contribute to the provision of
inaccurate and incomplete data regarding the incidence of hate
crime through the Uniform Crime Reports program. A significant
contributing factor is the quality and quantity of training that
State and local law enforcement agencies receive on the
identification and reporting of suspected bias-motivated crimes.
(7) The problem of crimes motivated by bias is sufficiently
serious, widespread, and interstate in nature as to warrant
Federal financial assistance to States and local jurisdictions.
(8) Federal financial assistance with regard to certain
violent crimes motivated by bias enables Federal, State, and
local authorities to work together as partners in the
investigation and prosecution of such crimes.


this part is the actual implemention of those "crime reduction programs":

(d) <> Reporting of Hate
Crimes.--
(1) Implementation grants.--
(A) In general.--The Attorney General may make
grants to States and units of local government to assist
the State or unit of local government in implementing
the National Incident-Based Reporting System, including
to train employees in identifying and classifying hate
crimes in the National Incident-Based Reporting System.
(B) Priority.--In making grants under subparagraph
(A), the Attorney General shall give priority to States
and units of local government that develop and implement
the programs and activities described in subsection
(f)(2)(A).
(2) Reporting.--
(A) Compliance.--
(i) <> In
general.--Except as provided in clause (ii), in
each fiscal year beginning after the date that is
3 years after the date on which a State or unit of
local government first receives a grant under
paragraph (1), the State or unit of local
government shall provide to the Attorney General,
through the Uniform Crime Reporting system,
information pertaining to hate crimes committed in
that jurisdiction during the preceding fiscal
year.

the rest of those programs as follows.....I'll just bold the parts that are pertinent:

(e) Grants for State-run Hate Crime Hotlines.--
(1) Grants authorized.--
(A) In general.--The Attorney General shall make
grants to States to create State-run hate crime
reporting hotlines.
(B) Grant period.--A grant made under subparagraph
(A) shall be for a period of not more than 5 years.
(2) Hotline requirements.--A State shall ensure, with
respect to a hotline funded by a grant under paragraph (1),
that--
(A) the hotline directs individuals to--
(i) law enforcement if appropriate; and
(ii) local support services;

[[Page 135 STAT. 269]]

(B) any personally identifiable information that an
individual provides to an agency of the State through
the hotline is not directly or indirectly disclosed,
without the consent of the individual, to--
(i) any other agency of that State;
(ii) any other State;
(iii) the Federal Government; or
(iv) any other person or entity;
(C) the staff members who operate the hotline are
trained to be knowledgeable about--
(i) applicable Federal, State, and local hate
crime laws; and
(ii) local law enforcement resources and
applicable local support services; and
(D) the hotline is accessible to--
(i) individuals with limited English
proficiency, where appropriate; and
(ii) individuals with disabilities.
(3) Best practices.--The Attorney General shall issue
guidance to States on best practices for implementing the
requirements of paragraph (2).

(f) Information Collection by States and Units of Local
Government.--
(1) Definitions.--In this subsection:
(A) Covered agency.--The term ``covered agency''
means--
(i) a State law enforcement agency; and
(ii) a priority agency.
(B) Eligible entity.--The term ``eligible entity''
means--
(i) a State; or
(ii) a unit of local government that has a
priority agency.
(2) Grants.--
(A) In general.--The Attorney General may make
grants to eligible entities to assist covered agencies
within the jurisdiction of the eligible entity in
conducting law enforcement activities or crime reduction
programs to prevent, address, or otherwise respond to
hate crime, particularly as those activities or programs
relate to reporting hate crimes through the Uniform
Crime Reports program, including--
(i) adopting a policy on identifying,
investigating, and reporting hate crimes;
(ii) developing a standardized system of
collecting, analyzing, and reporting the incidence
of hate crime;
(iii) establishing a unit specialized in
identifying, investigating, and reporting hate
crimes;
(iv) engaging in community relations functions
related to hate crime prevention and education
such as--
(I) establishing a liaison with
formal community-based organizations or
leaders; and

[[Page 135 STAT. 270]]

(II) conducting public meetings or
educational forums on the impact of hate
crimes, services available to hate crime
victims, and the relevant Federal,
State, and local laws pertaining to hate
crimes; and
(v) providing hate crime trainings for agency
personnel.
(B) Subgrants.--A State that receives a grant under
subparagraph (A) may award a subgrant to a unit of local
government within the State for the purposes under that
subparagraph, except that a unit of local government may
provide funding from such a subgrant to any law
enforcement agency of the unit of local government.
(3) Information required of states and units of local
government.--
(A) In general.--For each fiscal year in which a
State or unit of local government receives a grant or
subgrant under paragraph (2), the State or unit of local
government shall--
(i) collect information from each law
enforcement agency that receives funding from the
grant or subgrant summarizing the law enforcement
activities or crime reduction programs conducted
by the agency to prevent, address, or otherwise
respond to hate crime, particularly as those
activities or programs relate to reporting hate
crimes through the Uniform Crime Reports program;
and
(ii) <> submit to the
Attorney General a report containing the
information collected under clause (i).
(B) Semiannual law enforcement agency report.--
(i) <> In general.--In
collecting the information required under
subparagraph (A)(i), a State or unit of local
government shall require each law enforcement
agency that receives funding from a grant or
subgrant awarded to the State or unit of local
government under paragraph (2) to submit a
semiannual report to the State or unit of local
government that includes a summary of the law
enforcement activities or crime reduction programs
conducted by the agency during the reporting
period to prevent, address, or otherwise respond
to hate crime, particularly as those activities or
programs relate to reporting hate crimes through
the Uniform Crime Reports program.
(ii) Contents.--In a report submitted under
clause (i), a law enforcement agency shall, at a
minimum, disclose--
(I) whether the agency has adopted a
policy on identifying, investigating,
and reporting hate crimes;
(II) whether the agency has
developed a standardized system of
collecting, analyzing, and reporting the
incidence of hate crime;
(III) whether the agency has
established a unit specialized in
identifying, investigating, and
reporting hate crimes;
(IV) whether the agency engages in
community relations functions related to
hate crime, such as--

[[Page 135 STAT. 271]]

(aa) establishing a liaison
with formal community-based
organizations or leaders; and
(bb) conducting public
meetings or educational forums
on the impact of hate crime,
services available to hate crime
victims, and the relevant
Federal, State, and local laws
pertaining to hate crime; and
(V) the number of hate crime
trainings for agency personnel,
including the duration of the trainings,
conducted by the agency during the
reporting period.
(4) Compliance and redirection of funds.--
(A) <> In general.--Except as
provided in subparagraph (B), beginning not later than 1
year after the date of this Act, a State or unit of
local government receiving a grant or subgrant under
paragraph (2) shall comply with paragraph (3).
(B) Extensions; waiver.--The Attorney General--
(i) may provide a 120-day extension to a State
or unit of local government that is making good
faith efforts to collect the information required
under paragraph (3); and
(ii) shall waive the requirements of paragraph
(3) for a State or unit of local government if
compliance with that subsection by the State or
unit of local government would be unconstitutional
under the constitution of the State or of the
State in which the unit of local government is
located, respectively.

(g) Requirements of the Attorney General.--
(1) Information collection and analysis; report.--In order
to improve the accuracy of data regarding the incidence of hate
crime provided through the Uniform Crime Reports program, and
promote a more complete understanding of the national problem
posed by hate crime, the Attorney General shall--
(A) collect and analyze the information provided by
States and units of local government under subsection
(f) for the purpose of developing policies related to
the provision of accurate data obtained under the Hate
Crime Statistics Act (Public Law 101-275; 28 U.S.C. 534
note) by the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and
(B) <> for each
calendar year beginning after the date of enactment of
this Act, publish and submit to Congress a report based
on the information collected and analyzed under
subparagraph (A).
(2) <> Contents of report.--A report
submitted under paragraph (1) shall include--
(A) a qualitative analysis of the relationship
between--
(i) the number of hate crimes reported by
State law enforcement agencies or other law
enforcement agencies that received funding from a
grant or subgrant awarded under paragraph (2)
through the Uniform Crime Reports program; and
(ii) the nature and extent of law enforcement
activities or crime reduction programs conducted
by

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those agencies to prevent, address, or otherwise
respond to hate crime; and
(B) a quantitative analysis of the number of State
law enforcement agencies and other law enforcement
agencies that received funding from a grant or subgrant
awarded under paragraph (2) that have--
(i) adopted a policy on identifying,
investigating, and reporting hate crimes;
(ii) developed a standardized system of
collecting, analyzing, and reporting the incidence
of hate crime;
(iii) established a unit specialized in
identifying, investigating, and reporting hate
crimes;
(iv) engaged in community relations functions
related to hate crime, such as--
(I) establishing a liaison with
formal community-based organizations or
leaders; and
(II) conducting public meetings or
educational forums on the impact of hate
crime, services available to hate crime
victims, and the relevant Federal,
State, and local laws pertaining to hate
crime; and
(v) conducted hate crime trainings for agency
personnel during the reporting period, including--
(I) the total number of trainings
conducted by each agency; and
(II) the duration of the trainings
described in subclause (I).


^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS IS THE CRIME REDUCTION PROGRAMS YOU AND @VAiz4hustlaz ARE TALKING ABOUT.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

thats what been ENFORCED!


nowhere in there do you read about procedures and charges and how fast people need to be locked up....

nowhere in there do you read about charging people a certain amount of years....You know...the crime busting shit that YOU'RE thinking about.

and nowhere in there do you even see language that makes ANY OF THIS LAW specific to the asian community beyond the fucking title its given in the media.



This law is about as substantive and action pack as Juneteenth dude. All they did is allocate tax payer money to something they SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING and called it THE ANTI ASIAN HATE CRIME LAW...and you guys went all

oh yeah...its mainly if not wholly a databasing function which means gathering information to do what?? STUDY!

 

[Joe Money]

ok..lets get to the nitty gritty of what those "crime reduction programs" consist of specifically.... this is from congress website...the actual law:

first the definition of hate crimes then the reason why the bill is neccesary:

(1) The incidence of violence known as hate crimes, or
crimes motivated by bias, poses a serious national problem.
(2) According to data obtained by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation, the incidence of such violence increased in 2019,
the most recent year for which data is available.
(3) In 1990, Congress enacted the Hate Crime Statistics Act
(Public Law 101-275; 28 U.S.C. 534 note) to provide the Federal
Government, law enforcement agencies, and the public with data
regarding the incidence of hate crime. The Hate Crime Statistics
Act and the Matthew Shepard and James

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Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act (division E of Public Law
111-84; 123 Stat. 2835) have enabled Federal authorities to
understand and, where appropriate, investigate and prosecute
hate crimes.
(4) A more complete understanding of the national problem
posed by hate crime is in the public interest and supports the
Federal interest in eradicating bias-motivated violence
referenced in section 249(b)(1)(C) of title 18, United States
Code.
(5) However, a complete understanding of the national
problem posed by hate crimes is hindered by incomplete data from
Federal, State, and local jurisdictions through the Uniform
Crime Reports program authorized under section 534 of title 28,
United States Code, and administered by the Federal Bureau of
Investigation.
(6) Multiple factors contribute to the provision of
inaccurate and incomplete data regarding the incidence of hate
crime through the Uniform Crime Reports program. A significant
contributing factor is the quality and quantity of training that
State and local law enforcement agencies receive on the
identification and reporting of suspected bias-motivated crimes.
(7) The problem of crimes motivated by bias is sufficiently
serious, widespread, and interstate in nature as to warrant
Federal financial assistance to States and local jurisdictions.
(8) Federal financial assistance with regard to certain
violent crimes motivated by bias enables Federal, State, and
local authorities to work together as partners in the
investigation and prosecution of such crimes.


this part is the actual implemention of those "crime reduction programs":

(d) <> Reporting of Hate
Crimes.--
(1) Implementation grants.--
(A) In general.--The Attorney General may make
grants to States and units of local government to assist
the State or unit of local government in implementing
the National Incident-Based Reporting System, including
to train employees in identifying and classifying hate
crimes in the National Incident-Based Reporting System.
(B) Priority.--In making grants under subparagraph
(A), the Attorney General shall give priority to States
and units of local government that develop and implement
the programs and activities described in subsection
(f)(2)(A).
(2) Reporting.--
(A) Compliance.--
(i) <> In
general.--Except as provided in clause (ii), in
each fiscal year beginning after the date that is
3 years after the date on which a State or unit of
local government first receives a grant under
paragraph (1), the State or unit of local
government shall provide to the Attorney General,
through the Uniform Crime Reporting system,
information pertaining to hate crimes committed in
that jurisdiction during the preceding fiscal
year.

the rest of those programs as follows.....I'll just bold the parts that are pertinent:

(e) Grants for State-run Hate Crime Hotlines.--
(1) Grants authorized.--
(A) In general.--The Attorney General shall make
grants to States to create State-run hate crime
reporting hotlines.
(B) Grant period.--A grant made under subparagraph
(A) shall be for a period of not more than 5 years.
(2) Hotline requirements.--A State shall ensure, with
respect to a hotline funded by a grant under paragraph (1),
that--
(A) the hotline directs individuals to--
(i) law enforcement if appropriate; and
(ii) local support services;

[[Page 135 STAT. 269]]

(B) any personally identifiable information that an
individual provides to an agency of the State through
the hotline is not directly or indirectly disclosed,
without the consent of the individual, to--
(i) any other agency of that State;
(ii) any other State;
(iii) the Federal Government; or
(iv) any other person or entity;
(C) the staff members who operate the hotline are
trained to be knowledgeable about--
(i) applicable Federal, State, and local hate
crime laws; and
(ii) local law enforcement resources and
applicable local support services; and
(D) the hotline is accessible to--
(i) individuals with limited English
proficiency, where appropriate; and
(ii) individuals with disabilities.
(3) Best practices.--The Attorney General shall issue
guidance to States on best practices for implementing the
requirements of paragraph (2).

(f) Information Collection by States and Units of Local
Government.--
(1) Definitions.--In this subsection:
(A) Covered agency.--The term ``covered agency''
means--
(i) a State law enforcement agency; and
(ii) a priority agency.
(B) Eligible entity.--The term ``eligible entity''
means--
(i) a State; or
(ii) a unit of local government that has a
priority agency.
(2) Grants.--
(A) In general.--The Attorney General may make
grants to eligible entities to assist covered agencies
within the jurisdiction of the eligible entity in
conducting law enforcement activities or crime reduction
programs to prevent, address, or otherwise respond to
hate crime, particularly as those activities or programs
relate to reporting hate crimes through the Uniform
Crime Reports program, including--
(i) adopting a policy on identifying,
investigating, and reporting hate crimes;
(ii) developing a standardized system of
collecting, analyzing, and reporting the incidence
of hate crime;
(iii) establishing a unit specialized in
identifying, investigating, and reporting hate
crimes;
(iv) engaging in community relations functions
related to hate crime prevention and education
such as--
(I) establishing a liaison with
formal community-based organizations or
leaders; and

[[Page 135 STAT. 270]]

(II) conducting public meetings or
educational forums on the impact of hate
crimes, services available to hate crime
victims, and the relevant Federal,
State, and local laws pertaining to hate
crimes; and
(v) providing hate crime trainings for agency
personnel.
(B) Subgrants.--A State that receives a grant under
subparagraph (A) may award a subgrant to a unit of local
government within the State for the purposes under that
subparagraph, except that a unit of local government may
provide funding from such a subgrant to any law
enforcement agency of the unit of local government.
(3) Information required of states and units of local
government.--
(A) In general.--For each fiscal year in which a
State or unit of local government receives a grant or
subgrant under paragraph (2), the State or unit of local
government shall--
(i) collect information from each law
enforcement agency that receives funding from the
grant or subgrant summarizing the law enforcement
activities or crime reduction programs conducted
by the agency to prevent, address, or otherwise
respond to hate crime, particularly as those
activities or programs relate to reporting hate
crimes through the Uniform Crime Reports program;
and
(ii) <> submit to the
Attorney General a report containing the
information collected under clause (i).
(B) Semiannual law enforcement agency report.--
(i) <> In general.--In
collecting the information required under
subparagraph (A)(i), a State or unit of local
government shall require each law enforcement
agency that receives funding from a grant or
subgrant awarded to the State or unit of local
government under paragraph (2) to submit a
semiannual report to the State or unit of local
government that includes a summary of the law
enforcement activities or crime reduction programs
conducted by the agency during the reporting
period to prevent, address, or otherwise respond
to hate crime, particularly as those activities or
programs relate to reporting hate crimes through
the Uniform Crime Reports program.
(ii) Contents.--In a report submitted under
clause (i), a law enforcement agency shall, at a
minimum, disclose--
(I) whether the agency has adopted a
policy on identifying, investigating,
and reporting hate crimes;
(II) whether the agency has
developed a standardized system of
collecting, analyzing, and reporting the
incidence of hate crime;
(III) whether the agency has
established a unit specialized in
identifying, investigating, and
reporting hate crimes;
(IV) whether the agency engages in
community relations functions related to
hate crime, such as--

[[Page 135 STAT. 271]]

(aa) establishing a liaison
with formal community-based
organizations or leaders; and
(bb) conducting public
meetings or educational forums
on the impact of hate crime,
services available to hate crime
victims, and the relevant
Federal, State, and local laws
pertaining to hate crime; and
(V) the number of hate crime
trainings for agency personnel,
including the duration of the trainings,
conducted by the agency during the
reporting period.
(4) Compliance and redirection of funds.--
(A) <> In general.--Except as
provided in subparagraph (B), beginning not later than 1
year after the date of this Act, a State or unit of
local government receiving a grant or subgrant under
paragraph (2) shall comply with paragraph (3).
(B) Extensions; waiver.--The Attorney General--
(i) may provide a 120-day extension to a State
or unit of local government that is making good
faith efforts to collect the information required
under paragraph (3); and
(ii) shall waive the requirements of paragraph
(3) for a State or unit of local government if
compliance with that subsection by the State or
unit of local government would be unconstitutional
under the constitution of the State or of the
State in which the unit of local government is
located, respectively.

(g) Requirements of the Attorney General.--
(1) Information collection and analysis; report.--In order
to improve the accuracy of data regarding the incidence of hate
crime provided through the Uniform Crime Reports program, and
promote a more complete understanding of the national problem
posed by hate crime, the Attorney General shall--
(A) collect and analyze the information provided by
States and units of local government under subsection
(f) for the purpose of developing policies related to
the provision of accurate data obtained under the Hate
Crime Statistics Act (Public Law 101-275; 28 U.S.C. 534
note) by the Federal Bureau of Investigation; and
(B) <> for each
calendar year beginning after the date of enactment of
this Act, publish and submit to Congress a report based
on the information collected and analyzed under
subparagraph (A).
(2) <> Contents of report.--A report
submitted under paragraph (1) shall include--
(A) a qualitative analysis of the relationship
between--
(i) the number of hate crimes reported by
State law enforcement agencies or other law
enforcement agencies that received funding from a
grant or subgrant awarded under paragraph (2)
through the Uniform Crime Reports program; and
(ii) the nature and extent of law enforcement
activities or crime reduction programs conducted
by

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those agencies to prevent, address, or otherwise
respond to hate crime; and
(B) a quantitative analysis of the number of State
law enforcement agencies and other law enforcement
agencies that received funding from a grant or subgrant
awarded under paragraph (2) that have--
(i) adopted a policy on identifying,
investigating, and reporting hate crimes;
(ii) developed a standardized system of
collecting, analyzing, and reporting the incidence
of hate crime;
(iii) established a unit specialized in
identifying, investigating, and reporting hate
crimes;
(iv) engaged in community relations functions
related to hate crime, such as--
(I) establishing a liaison with
formal community-based organizations or
leaders; and
(II) conducting public meetings or
educational forums on the impact of hate
crime, services available to hate crime
victims, and the relevant Federal,
State, and local laws pertaining to hate
crime; and
(v) conducted hate crime trainings for agency
personnel during the reporting period, including--
(I) the total number of trainings
conducted by each agency; and
(II) the duration of the trainings
described in subclause (I).


^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS IS THE CRIME REDUCTION PROGRAMS YOU AND @VAiz4hustlaz ARE TALKING.... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

thats what been ENFORCED!


nowhere in there do you read about procedures and charges and how fast people need to be locked up....

nowhere in there do you read about charging people a certain amount of years....You know..the crime busting shit that YOUR thinking about.

and nowhere in there do you even see language that makes ANY OF THIS LAW specific to the asian community beyond the fucking title its given in the media.



This law is about as substantive and action pack as Juneteenth dude. All they did is allocate tax payer money to something they SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING and called it THE ANTI ASIAN HATE CRIME LAW...and you guys went all

Nigga you know better!!

 

[SPECTRE1]

All that anti union activity is coming from them, they have some weird obsession with job hoarding. They have attacked endorsers of products manufactured domestically, gone after the Mafia because of the Union rackets, and attacked actors. They will prop up industry or enrich a CEO to misdirect us into nonsense. They overwhelm our higher education system and block us from getting accepted, especially medical school.

Whenever a company wants to move production to China, or some other country, the Unions fight back against it. They are also politically active in supporting candidates with trade policy favorable for domestic production.

Many of these companies really don't care about Unions, it is their Asian overlords that will get pissed off and cut their products to them.

 

[0utsyder]

Let's follow the logic here Geechie. If hate incidents are being undercounted across the board, then wouldn't it logically follow that there are a lot MORE hate crimes and incidents being committed against Blacks as well, since we lead in the stats of the incidents that ARE counted???






And what's stopping Biden and the Democrats from pushing significant initiatives and legislation for the Black community?....................... Oh yeah, it's the same reason!

As I said, you agree with what we say yet what to argue anyway. Makes no sense.

Where do we put our money? Do we get lobbyists or do we not vote? You want a politician Republikkkan or Dumbocrats to work for your interest get a lobbyist.

Tariq and Umar get money for fake ass schools and HIDDEN museums, but no money for a superPAC! They ain't gonna "save us" unless we PAY them!

 

[geechiedan]

Where do we put our money? Do we get lobbyists or do we not vote? You want a politician Republikkkan or Dumbocrats to work for your interest get a lobbyist.

Tariq and Umar get money for fake ass schools and HIDDEN museums, but no money for a superPAC! They ain't gonna "save us" unless we PAY them!

LOOOTTA money went to BLM in the last few years....

 

[0utsyder]

LOOOTTA money went to BLM in the last few years....

Could you imagine a BLM SuperPAC?! But we got "BLACK LIVES MATTER" on a street?! Marching and protesting don't work no more! Gun lobbyists working hard right now to stop any kind of gun control bills and get teachers armed. What if black folks had those lobbyists?

 

[SPECTRE1]

All that anti union activity is coming from them, they have some weird obsession with job hoarding. They have attacked endorsers of products manufactured domestically, gone after the Mafia because of the Union rackets, and attacked actors. They will prop up industry or enrich a CEO to misdirect us into nonsense. They overwhelm our higher education system and block us from getting accepted, especially medical school.

Whenever a company wants to move production to China, or some other country, the Unions fight back against it. They are also politically active in supporting candidates with trade policy favorable for domestic production.

Many of these companies really don't care about Unions, it is their Asian overlords that will get pissed off and cut their products to them.

The only time you push hard on foreign exports is due to the lack of resources such as agriculture and raw material. They should be able to generate enough internal demand if they had all the resources available to them. This is why I believe they are really aggressive on the foreign trade and why they have people crammed into these bunk beds with 20 people to a room at some Apple/Foxconn factory to lower their labor cost to a ridiculous level.

Imagine these workers living in apartment with their own cars which wouldn't happen because of being resource constrained. This would create demand to build housing, cars, and other products raising labor costs in the country. Their ability to attract U.S. companies would diminish and not be able to earn foreign currency to buy food and other raw materials.

The end result is we suffer from their hostile/desperate foreign trade policy. China is a preview of what is to come in the future as more countries deplete resources/overpopulate such as India and use this model to attach themselves to other countries (or me) that will suffer. Their overall goal is to virtually eliminate all domestic production so you only become familiar with imported products.

 

[gene cisco]

LOOOTTA money went to BLM in the last few years....

Just cut it out. They can't even find where the funds at. Bitches was wilding out with the money. Unorganized as fuck with chapters nationwide looking like

And that's the problem with black politics and everything adjacent to it. Unorganized and/or self-serving. Yeah, all politics is self-serving to a degree, but it's always some extra bullshit with black politics. Always one step behind. Party first. Shit's a bad joke.

Cleveland black mayors forever. Powerful black city council members. But they all sellout and lookout for self. Pattern is repeated in many cities across the U.S. It's so wack that the white powers still pulling "first black (insert title)" on the community decades after first black mayors that didn't make cities any better for black residents. Money and positions don't matter if people sell their souls and only serve themselves.

 

[pimp1101]

LOOOTTA money went to got stolen by BLM in the last few years....

 

[Supersav]

Funny but when I quoted from that article you dismissed it as American media. Obviously you didn't read the article but just the headline.

But but socialism is bad

 

[xfactor]

LOOOTTA money went to BLM in the last few years....

Yes, your LGBT club made a major come-up. Now it is in the wind like a fart after a fat bitch eating at a buffet.

 

[geechiedan]

Yes, your LGBT club made a major come-up. Now it is in the wind like a fart after a fat bitch eating at a buffet.

Nothing to contribute just more shit talking..

 

[BKF]

But but socialism is bad

I didn't say socialism is good or bad. I asked you to provide a socialist country that has been successful. I also asked why are you still in this country and not in a country that practices socialism (since you believe in it so much)??