BGS spit nothing but hot fire here!!! “Shut the fuck up and sit down!!!” Same thing I’ve been saying.
Watch these faggot motherfuckers in here totally ignore it.
Ignoring ADOS is Democratic policy.
BGS spit nothing but hot fire here!!! “Shut the fuck up and sit down!!!” Same thing I’ve been saying.
Watch these faggot motherfuckers in here totally ignore it.
I love how you overlook everything else I wrote.
Yes, when I say “we”, I am ADOS-specific. And yes, I know who black people in NYC are. Do you? And are you sure you want to go down this road?
"ADOS are ATTACKING Caribbeans and Africans in the US. Black Americans are xenophobes! Pan afrikanism forever!" Meanwhile in Africa....
Lets go down this road.
Tell me how these black foreigners didnt get gentrified in NY.
In 2018 alone, BGOL had 13 threads dedicated to clowning Dr. Umar, 2 of which were created by Mr. Met. As recently as 3 years ago, posters who acknowledged WS were clowned as "E militants" and black nationalist youtube personalities were derided for infighting.
Since FBA ADOS emerged in February, BGOL only has seen 2 Dr. Umar clown threads created. 2! A bunch of ex Hillary Clinton and Obama supporters and Democratic shills that clowned "Hoteps" for years are now utilizing Pan Afrikanist theory to try to stop ADOS, and none are clowning the white media who openly speaks of white supremacy now. The ones who used to condemn and highlight infighting (Mr. Met) are angered by those same personalities now being on code and insult them directly. He even capes for Umar now.
ADOS has fucked up a lot of folks hustles and exposed a lot of off code frauds.
Jamaica!
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cringeworthy
Are you 100% sure you want to go down this road? I’m talking pulling stats and everything?
If there are less white people priorities will change. Virus infects all around it.What good does it mean to have a bunch of Black people in office who are Dem first, or immigrant first, or gay first, or green first and the last thing on thier agenda is Black progress?
And we're over just voting for "the Black candidate " because they're Black. I'd vote for Williamson over them other biege negrows any election.
... fixed it for yathe astro turf xenophobic ADOS hashtag non-voting, non organizing, non intellectual, fraudulent and deceitful narrative misrepresenting has exposed a lot of folks hustles and revealed a lot of off code frauds.
jokers and clowns are still in here running with deceitful stats and misrepresenting data and making up shit they have no knowledge about....
jokers and clowns are still in here running with deceitful stats and misrepresenting data and making up shit they have no knowledge about becos they dont travel , they only read with an eye to confim their bias! history of the media & propaganda has taught us u can take any moment in history and twist it to fit any narrative and only the knowledgeable will penetrate it !!
have any of u watched fox news in the last 8 years ??! this is the same playbook ! fortunately u cant overwhelm me with bullshit ,u're not as good at it as ur overlord drumpf ! u have to try and come harder! !
these people will want u to believe they are experts on african lives but have never been outside their own state, they will post isolated incidents (becos every afrikan in afrika must be an angel panfrikan warrior or else panafrikanism is dead !!! lol and use that to broad brush the whole continent ! but u cant use any dysfunctional instances of black american life to broad paint brush all black americans !that only applies when u want to demonize afrikans in afrika ..and this is coming from folks who have barely been outside their own states and want u to believe they have knowledge of international affairs in afrika!! i cant sit here and pull up random twits and random instances from random nameless faceless folks online to highlight the dysfucntionality of black ameircans if i wish to push a narative if thats what i aim to do....
ur lot are so transparent and boorishly dumb!we panafrikans moving forward ! u can go cry in the car now
Which stats are deceitful? Which data has been misrepresented? What shit is being made up?
You've asked three times now. Next you will ask me if im 110% sure?
I dont just know the stats, Ive seen Brooklyn with my own eyes go from one extreme to the next because of gentrification. Haitians are trying to hang on to the neighborhoods they have over there, but things are changing...
These clowns have no stats to give out. Pure emotional faggotry. I don't believe neither one of these fools have linked a single article nor posted an expert opinion to back thier positions.
Shit is too easy.
Table 1. New York City population by race and nativity of household head
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Lmao.
Carribean peeps been in NY since the 60s. Guess what... They dont count as foreign born blacks anymore. They had kids and their kids had kids. They count as native born blacks now.
Try again.
"When Diaspora Blacks speak out against Reparations to #ados; ask them (1) Do you support immediate stoppage of U.S. foreign aid to your home country? (2) Do you support the 22 nation strong @CARICOMorg (Caribbean Community) reparations claims for slavery?"
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What percent of the black NYC population was of Caribbean descent in the 1960s?
Maybe on an extremely petty, crab in a barrel level...you are getting something I am not etc...I dont believe that this is a large group of people and I certainly couldn't imagine any of them coming out in public and saying it...I think the few diaspora Black people who have come out against reparations are motivated much more by coon dollars than any "if I cant get it, you cant either" syndromeI cant fathom why any diaspora black peeps would be against reparations for ados.
I cant fathom why any diaspora black peeps would be against reparations for ados.
Not much at first obviously but its grown to a significant percentage cause all immigrants seek each other when they come so they are much less likely to spread to other states. All Carribean went either to NY or Florida. In regards to NY, Queens and Brooklyn those communities are unavoidable.
All this to say, its false to think gentrification in NY somehow didnt affect us while it affected you.
Quality post....diaspora Blacks who speak out against reparations for foundational Black Americans (prefer this term over ADOS) are fuckery and should be called out as such...one quick note, US foreign aid is not really aid so much as strategy...aid is given for strategic not altruistic reasons...a lot of fuckery has been done in the name of aid
I also agree with the poster that said the leadership of this movement should be purely foundational Black American
The only thing I ask is that both groups acknowledge the fuckery that they have perpetuated against the other...some diaspora Blacks do look down on Black Americans and do not show the proper respect for the people who have made their lives easier whether they admit it or not...on the other hand, some Black Americans did not exactly welcome diaspora Blacks with open arms either...for example, I am not Haitian but the antagonism and contempt that Haitian immigrants received in 80's Miami is legendary...never underestimate the ability of Black people to hate each other
I respect all posters who genuinely want better for their fellow foundational Black Americans...I support that struggle 100%...I am not convinced that all of you have that objective and believe at least one of you is a White man...be aware that some with ulterior motives may try to hijack the movement...at the same time, I am not convinced that some of the opposition is as pan-African focused as it seems...at a certain point, one has to back off
The continued back and forth bickering in this thread should have died down by now..agents on both sides are trying to distract the issue and make it a Black vs Black thing...this is a shame
Saw the tweet about the SuperPAC exploration...if handled correctly, that will be a game changer
Haitian in Miami was one example...there are more.....and there are examples the other way too with diaspora Blacks dissing foundational Blacks....I am simply wary of a false narrative being propagated...in spite of all the beefs I would never say foundational Black Americans have been oppressive to diaspora Blacks....in general, we have been given a space to survive which would have been much more difficult (not impossible) if Black Americans decided to be truly oppressive...that point is certainly trueThere's several things in the works that are gonna continue to propel ADOS. The conference in October is right around the corner is a start.
You also make a good point about the treatment of Haitians in Miami in the 80s. And I would never try to discount their negative experiences they mightve had back then involving ADOS. But Miami is 1 city, and very unique from the rest of the country. Most ADOS havent been violent to or oppressed Haitians in this country. We've supported their efforts and history. Tariq Nasheed who is a voice of ADOS just did a doc saluting their story. Alot of ADOS icons were directly inspired by their revolution.
ADOS has always embraced non ADOS business and always created spaces for them in our culture. Thats something no other group in the diaspora does. Not even close. ADOS thru out history has been at the forefront of pan afrikanism. So many giants have pushed that movement forward right here in the States.
More non ADOS come here and try to start businesses here than anywhere on the planet for a reason. Its never easy migrating and assimilating into another society, but if ADOS was so evil to their brother we wouldnt see so many non ADOS able to thrive the way some have here. So it's disappointing to see some now try to portray ADOS as seperatist or a hate group after all we've done and continue to do.
ADOS is simply holding everyone accountable with how they deal with us. And part of that is how folks who dont have our interest at heart and have no issue undermining us have been allowed to speak and represent us.
BGOL has always had a shit ton of agents and cacs posing, this thread isnt immune we know that. But there are alot of ADOS lurking who value the info and thats who this is for. ADOS being the "bottom caste" of US society affects a lot of people black, white, hispanic, newly arrived immigrant, etc, so its no shocking to me so much effort is put into dissing us as say the Jamaican or Haitian themed threads on BGOL. Alot more political energy involved.
Why not ask them directly, especially since you’re one yourself. They’re all over this board.
It affects you in the since immigrants are amongst the gentrifiers; native ADOS blacks are the ones being gentrified.
1. They all over this board? Ok name them and post proof they against reparations. Ill gladly call them out.
2. I would ask you to post stats to prove what you said there but I know you just gonna waste my time like before.
The truth is my "tribe" is getting gentrified the hell out of Brooklyn too. They wanna create a little Haiti there in large part because they feel they getting pushed out of the city. You obviously know nothing about NY.
1. Are you gonna call yourself as well? Mango? Voyeur? There are number of others and I had no idea the foreign infiltration was this bad. But the three of you have been amongst the LOUDEST and most active in resisting, obfuscating, and interfering with any real discussion concerning reparations for ADOS. Automatically trying to dismiss it as some "bot" shit, regardless of what relevant information we post. We can't have one substantive discussion about wealth inequality and the economic situation of ADOS without your bullshit.
2. I've posted nothing but stats and links to studies and empirical data. Show me ONE that you've posted. In fact, post something outside of your own personal observations about black immigrants being gentrified.
Below are plenty of stats for you. Black immigrants were only 3% of the overall black population in 1980. Granted, I'm sure that number was higher specifically for NYC (and I will find it since I know you won't do any kind of research), but they were still an overwhelmingly minority. It's 9% now, and most of that growth has been since 1980, and even more so since 2000.
Key facts about black immigrants in the U.S.
BY MONICA ANDERSON AND GUSTAVO LÓPEZ
The United States has long had a sizable black population because of the transatlantic slave trade beginning in the 16th century. But significant voluntary black migration is a relatively new development – and one that has increased rapidly over the past two decades. Here’s a closer look at the small, yet growing, black immigrant population in the U.S.:
1The black immigrant population has increased fivefold since 1980. There were 4.2 million black immigrants living in the U.S. in 2016, up from just 816,000 in 1980, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of U.S. Census Bureau data. Since 2000 alone, the number of black immigrants living in the country has risen 71%. Now, roughly one-in-ten blacks (9%) living in the U.S. are foreign born, according to 2016 American Community Survey data, up from 3% in 1980. (Immigrants make up 10% of the black population in the March 2016 Current Population Survey.)
2Much of the recent growth in the foreign-born black population has been fueled by African migration.Between 2000 and 2016, the black African immigrant population more than doubled, from 574,000 to 1.6 million. Africans now make up 39% of the overall foreign-born black population, up from 24% in 2000. Still, roughly half of all foreign-born blacks living in the U.S. in 2016 (49%) were from the Caribbean, with Jamaica and Haiti being the largest source countries.
3 When compared with other immigrant groups, blacks are more likely to be U.S. citizens or to be proficient English speakers. Roughly six-in-ten foreign-born blacks (58%) are U.S. citizens, compared with 49% of immigrants overall. And given that many black immigrants are from English-speaking nations, black immigrants ages 5 and older are also more likely than the overall immigrant population to be proficient English speakers (74% vs. 51%).
4There were 619,000 unauthorized black immigrants living in the U.S. in 2015, accounting for 15% of foreign-born blacks, according to Pew Research Center estimates. By comparison, 24% of the overall immigrant population is unauthorized.
5Overall, black immigrants (28%) are somewhat less likely than the overall U.S. population (31%) to have a college degree or more, but black immigrants from Africa are more likely than Americans overall to have a college degree or higher. But educational attainment varies widely by country of origin. For example, 59% of foreign-born blacks from Nigeria have a bachelor’s or advanced degree – a share that is roughly double that of the overall population. By comparison, just 10% of black immigrants from Somalia have earned at least a bachelor’s degree.
6 In 2016, 8% of blacks were second-generation Americans –meaning they were born in the U.S. but have at least one foreign-born parent, according to the Center’s analysis of the Census Bureau’s 2016 Current Population Survey. In total, black immigrants and their children make up roughly one-fifth (18%) of the overall black population in the U.S.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/01/24/key-facts-about-black-immigrants-in-the-u-s/