A collection of #ADOS Tweets from @KingTahara that no one cares about

[KingTaharqa]

ADOS is "discriminating" against Caribbean's.

What will the Demo-bots say next?

Why do people act like we aint got Caribbeans working with us? The girl that aired the Nigerian bedwench out that Met is caping for in that trash Harriet movie, is a Caribbean American.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Boom??? This is dumb as fuck on every level. Tell that old-ass Kevin Gates-looking nigga to show his barber! Or tell him to grow some facial hair.

A few points for the dummies:

1. What does someone’s significant other and/or sexual orientation have to do with the racial wealth gap and reparations, both of which can and have been measured empirically and are core parts of the ADOS movement? Tone and Yvette have both discussed how sexual orientation is irrelevant to the ADOS discussion.
2. Lineage is another big part of ADOS and both Yvette and Tone have discussed how ADOS are descendants of the institution of slavery, which means we are descendants of black slaves and white slaveowners. Black Americans average 18% white ancestry. Yvette put her percentage out there; it was like 35% or something.
3. If you’d actually read the website or read Darity’s work, then you would know that the general standard for “qualifying” as ADOS is having at least one ADOS ancestor and legally identifying as Black for the past 10 years. So, if she has white great-grandparents, it’s irrelevant.

Do some goddamn research and stop posting silly-ass shit from silly-ass niggas in here!

Met will come in here post some nobody from youtube to diss us and declare our nationality "bullshit". Then go in a Jamaican thread and be serious as a heart attack and rep his shit with pride. FOH! Alot of the anti ADOS sentiment is coming from these NYers who ALREADY have negative views and tensions with ADOS.

Met, Darrkman, Mangobob, Big Tex, etc are all non ADOS NYers.

Talib Kweli, Joy Ann Reid, NYers.

Met wants to be able to be "black American" one day to fill out that job app or better yet be able to speak for and dictate our culture to us. Then be Jamaican the next and be exclusionary to us with no concern if we left out or not. His anger is ADOS no longer allows the fence jumping.

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[Soul On Ice]

Never trust a Black man without facial hair

 

[Soul On Ice]

I don’t think y’all get what people are saying when they ask questions about this movement. This is a valid issue. I agree that it is important for ADOS to mention and bring this history to light. It’s the “means” that is being questioned.

Bringing up the long history of government sanctioned discrimination and angst towards our People = important movement.

Using this historical fact and important argument to justify encouraging our people not to vote or only call out Democrats and not both parties = a misguided movement that is being exploited by Republicans and Russian bots who know the path to Republican control is to sow discord amongst our people and put up as many roadblocks to voting.

See they don’t want you to vote. If you get to the ballot and even write in a vote for President, you might fuck around and vote for an important state or local issue that also impacts are people. And they don’t want that.

Projecting
Totally wrong

 

[Soul On Ice]

Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?

 

[Camille]

Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?

You misunderstand my past comments. I'm not anti reparations, I'm pro EFFECTIVE action if you are going to talk about and pursue them. Bitching and moaning isn't a plan. I haven't been able to go through the info Va posted for me yet to see if it obtains a plan, but if it does, going from the comments from you and other posters, it hasn't been made clear enough for you all to grasp there is one and articulate how things get done and passed into law.

Thus far all I've seen is a set of grievances voiced and attacks on immigrant blacks. The grievances may be valid, and people need to know about them, but pointing them out loudly and expecting that to evoke change is even less than our ancestors did during civil rights. I used to have a supervisor that wouldn't listen to complaints or criticism unless it was constructive. We couldn't raise concerns unless we also had an action plan to correct it. Thus far, what I've seen is a group of folks who want the spotlight on them while they run the Oppression Olympics, where even if you win you've lost. We have been victims of WS, but accepting this victim mentality where all you can do is talk about the wrongs done to you and feel powerless to change it, I can't get with that.

I had a friend who got sick years ago. I don't recall the condition but it weakened him and he was on a lot of meds. At first he fought against it, then the attention and sympathy for his condition and the responses from others about his doing so well with all the issues he has and how amazing he is to keep going started to affect him and he started to live for that feedback. He stopped trying to improve his condition and started embracing it as part of his identity. He was (it appeared to me at least) no longer interested in getting well because being sick benefited him. I don't want being diseased, defective, oppressed etc synonymous with black folks. I want the victory over what ails us to be the story. Reparations can and probably should be part of the story, but so far what I see being articulated, and again I haven't read and viewed the info Va posted, is embracing what ails us, bringing up to folks how they were complicit in our illness, and railing against others affected by the same disease. Yes, you want to be aware of what made you sick and avoid or eradicate it, but just identifying it and talking about it, that's not a cure.

 

[Soul On Ice]

You misunderstand my past comments. I'm not anti reparations, I'm pro EFFECTIVE action if you are going to talk about and pursue them. Bitching and moaning isn't a plan. I haven't been able to go through the info Va posted for me yet to see if it obtains a plan, but if it does, going from the comments from you and other posters, it hasn't been made clear enough for you all to grasp there is one and articulate how things get done and passed into law.

Thus far all I've seen is a set of grievances voiced and attacks on immigrant blacks. The grievances may be valid, and people need to know about them, but pointing them out loudly and expecting that to evoke change is even less than our ancestors did during civil rights. I used to have a supervisor that wouldn't listen to complaints or criticism unless it was constructive. We couldn't raise concerns unless we also had an action plan to correct it. Thus far, what I've seen is a group of folks who want the spotlight on them while they run the Oppression Olympics, where even if you win you've lost. We have been victims of WS, but accepting this victim mentality where all you can do is talk about the wrongs done to you and feel powerless to change it, I can't get with that.

I had a friend who got sick years ago. I don't recall the condition but it weakened him and he was on a lot of meds. At first he fought against it, then the attention and sympathy for his condition and the responses from others about his doing so well with all the issues he has and how amazing he is to keep going started to affect him and he started to live for that feedback. He stopped trying to improve his condition and started embracing it as part of his identity. He was (it appeared to me at least) no longer interested in getting well because being sick benefited him. I don't want being diseased, defective, oppressed etc synonymous with black folks. I want the victory over what ails us to be the story. Reparations can and probably should be part of the story, but so far what I see being articulated, and again I haven't read and viewed the info Va posted, is embracing what ails us, bringing up to folks how they were complicit in our illness, and railing against others affected by the same disease. Yes, you want to be aware of what made you sick and avoid or eradicate it, but just identifying it and talking about it, that's not a cure.

Thanks for the response, but you literally did not answer nor understand my question.
I tagged you all because you yourselves either flat out dont want reparations, or are backing candidates who dont want reparations.
This was not a reparations question I posed. It was a white supremacy question .



Since you all have told me the policies for Black people are far fetched, is policies stopping WS also too hard to enact?

 

[Camille]

Thanks for the response, but you literally did not answer nor understand my question.
I tagged you all because you yourselves either flat out dont want reparations, or are backing candidates who dont want reparations.
This was not a reparations question I posed. It was a white supremacy question .



Since you all have told me the policies for Black people are far fetched, is policies stopping WS also too hard to enact?

I didn't address your question I addressed your claim about my supporting reparations. I absolutely support reparations, but I'm not going to retweet and amplify folks with no plan who are spreading hate by disparaging other blacks who are immigrants.

We already have anti racism, anti discrimination and hate laws on the books. Enforcement is the issue.

The dems have already proposed federal guidelines for policing, but nothing gets passed with the GOP. Obama's DOJ did what they could with consent decrees over police abuses. Everyone sounded the alarm when Trump's DOJ tried to roll back the consent decrees, made changes to their civil rights division, said they were going to focus on Muslims instead of white hate crimes and tried to get black activists labeled a national threat as black identity extremists. Y'all said we were caping for Muslims, both parties are the same and voting doesn't matter.

 

[Soul On Ice]

I didn't address your question I addressed your claim about my supporting reparations. I absolutely support reparations, but I'm not going to retweet and amplify folks with no plan who are spreading hate by disparaging other blacks who are immigrants.

We already have anti racism, anti discrimination and hate laws on the books. Enforcement is the issue.

The dems have already proposed federal guidelines for policing, but nothing gets passed with the GOP. Obama's DOJ did what they could with consent decrees over police abuses. Everyone sounded the alarm when Trump's DOJ tried to roll back the consent decrees, made changes to their civil rights division, said they were going to focus on Muslims instead of white hate crimes and tried to get black activists labeled a national threat as black identity extremists. Y'all said we were caping for Muslims, both parties are the same and voting doesn't matter.

I understand.
Thanks

 

[Darrkman]

Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?

You dudes are so predictable it's sad. I have never said I'm anti reparations. I'm anti ADOS, Yvette and Tone cause I know that they're all fronts for conservative whites that want Black people to not vote. None of you dudes can explain the ados website praising Reagan until it was pointed out and then they quickly changed it. None of y'all can explain Antonio Moore writing articles attacking John Lewis for Newsmax.

We see y'all and the company you keep.

 

[Joe Money]

Met will come in here post some nobody from youtube to diss us and declare our nationality "bullshit". Then go in a Jamaican thread and be serious as a heart attack and rep his shit with pride. FOH! Alot of the anti ADOS sentiment is coming from these NYers who ALREADY have negative views and tensions with ADOS.

Met, Darrkman, Mangobob, Big Tex, etc are all non ADOS NYers.

Talib Kweli, Joy Ann Reid, NYers.

Met wants to be able to be "black American" one day to fill out that job app or better yet be able to speak for and dictate our culture to us. Then be Jamaican the next and be exclusionary to us with no concern if we left out or not. His anger is ADOS no longer allows the fence jumping.

You make an excellent point and it’s something I’ve been ruminating over. Any serious ADOS social and political action will probably need to come from areas where the black media, politics, and social life is ADOS-controlled. Unfortunately, too many black spheres are under the yoke of white libs and their black lackeys, many of whom are 1st and 2nd generation immigrants. NYC especially, and I would add DC and Miami as well. May as well write off the “black leadership”, Af-Am Studies departments and such, from most elite universities too, and maybe even some HBCUs. They’re so thoroughly embedded in our shit.

It will truly have to be grassroots. But here’s the thing. A lot of ADOS black people, particularly more rural and isolated populations, simply aren’t aware of this shit. They still have the flattened “black is black” and simply haven’t encountered many of these immigrant Africans and West Indians. They don’t know about the shitty superior attitudes and usurpation going on. Obama was their first exposure to it. So it will definitely take grassroots action way beyond Twitter and the internet to get the word out to them.

 

[Camille]

I understand.
Thanks

BTW I don't know if you watch rachel but her whole first segment last night talked about laws passed to not only get justice for hate crimes against black folks, but trying to bankrupt the groups that sponsor them. She profiled two black folks tho one was an immigrant. Like I said tho, folks aren't asking for pedigrees before targeting black skin.

I'm on my phone now so I can't link directly to the video but it's the one titled legal strategy proven effective against white supremacist groups and the continuation of the discussion was the one about the pursuit of the groups. I recommend watching at least the first one.

When I am back at my pc I plan on putting them in my protest thread and I can update this post.

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[KingTaharqa]

You make an excellent point and it’s something I’ve been ruminating over. Any serious ADOS social and political action will probably need to come from areas where the black media, politics, and social life is ADOS-controlled. Unfortunately, too many black spheres are under the yoke of white libs and their black lackeys, many of whom are 1st and 2nd generation immigrants. NYC especially, and I would add DC and Miami as well. May as well write off the “black leadership”, Af-Am Studies departments and such, from most elite universities too, and maybe even some HBCUs. They’re so thoroughly embedded in our shit.

It will truly have to be grassroots. But here’s the thing. A lot of ADOS black people, particularly more rural and isolated populations, simply aren’t aware of this shit. They still have the flattened “black is black” and simply haven’t encountered many of these immigrant Africans and West Indians. They don’t know about the shitty superior attitudes and usurpation going on. Obama was their first exposure to it. So it will definitely take grassroots action way beyond Twitter and the internet to get the word out to them.

Being that ADOS is primarily a Southern based lineage, our base and intellectual class will always be more in the South and Midwest. New York City and some of these other urban areas are so multicultural and nuanced, ADOS doesnt have as much clout and presence as they do in the rest of the country. But we do got riders in NYC too so its still important we create momentum there as well.

And you are right, the bulk of ADOS in the heart of the country dont interact with non ADOS day to day to have tension or understand non ADOS supremacy. You see that more in NYC, MIA.

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[AllUniverse17]

ADOS support of Reagan and Trump is disgusting to me.

I hope the ADOS in this thread are clapping back at these coons.

 

[Joe Money]

ADOS support of Reagan and Trump is disgusting to me.

I hope the ADOS in this thread are clapping back at these coons.

It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.

You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.

Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?

• Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?
• 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can. Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
• Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked. What are your thoughts on this?
• How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
• In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?

Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.

 

[Spectrum]

This has probably already been posted here, but this is the quickest argument for reparations. And a side note.....this is a clear example of the pros/cons of a leader. The ADOS movement having an individual that could pitch this like this would be powerful. The other issue is that the U.S. neutralized non-white leaders with the best of them..

 

[Joe Money]

This has probably already been posted here, but this is the quickest argument for reparations. And a side note.....this is a clear example of the pros/cons of a leader. The ADOS movement having an individual that could pitch this like this would be powerful. The other issue is that the U.S. neutralized non-white leaders with the best of them..

Barack Obama could’ve pitched like this. Michelle Obama could pitch like this. Kamala Harris could pitch like this. Cory Booker could pitch like this.

 

[KingTaharqa]

It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.

You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.

Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?

• Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?
• 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can. Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
• Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked. What are your thoughts on this?
• How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
• In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?

Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.

The "we all black" hustle is only ran on ADOS, a "lost" tribe with no land mass backing them. Nobody else practices or entertains that bullshit.

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[Spectrum]

Barack Obama could’ve pitched like this. Michelle Obama could pitch like this. Kamala Harris could pitch like this. Cory Booker could pitch like this.

I don't think so. You can't be a politician or tied to the political machinery and pitch like this.

And it's bananas to even think Obama could pitch this. The GOP wouldn't even take up his S.C. nominee.

 

[Soul On Ice]

You dudes are so predictable it's sad. I have never said I'm anti reparations. I'm anti ADOS, Yvette and Tone cause I know that they're all fronts for conservative whites that want Black people to not vote. None of you dudes can explain the ados website praising Reagan until it was pointed out and then they quickly changed it. None of y'all can explain Antonio Moore writing articles attacking John Lewis for Newsmax.

We see y'all and the company you keep.

Another one who's playing dumb to the question I asked
Lol.
So he strawmanning

 

[Watcher]

Since @Watcher @Darrkman @mangobob79 @Mr. Met @Big Tex @Camille @gutsdabeast @Ninja05 etc have pretty much all stated how much supporting reparations isnt going to happen (either for themselves or their fav. Dem member), have your favorite politicians announced anything substantive against WS?

Democrats can’t do anything of substance right now because they are the minority. Which is why I have always been for less white people in power. Currently I think that’s through the Democratic Party,

Beto is stepping up his game.

BETO O'ROURKE CALL TRUMP WHITE SUPREMACIST WITHOUT HESITATION
https://m.jpost.com/American-Politi...p-white-supremacist-without-hesitation-597996

AOC


But that’s all they can do right now is talk until we remove a significant amount of white people in the government.

 

[AllUniverse17]

It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.

You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.

Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?

• Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?
• 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can. Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
• Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked. What are your thoughts on this?
• How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
• In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?

Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.

1st, I didnt criticize the movement, because not all of yall are in on defending these cac's honor on some "both parties are the same" shit. Thats Thats why I said I hope ADOS in this thread check these coons.

2nd, KT gives multiple tweets in a single post addressing a variety of things. I agree with most but I pick which ones I address. Thats how this works. I dont tell you what to quote or not quote.

3rd, Im not Nigerian, I dont know anything about their reality. I do know this though, they are NOT in the way of ADOS getting reparations, unless you let cacs distract you with their deflection games. I suspect that besides your talking points you know nothing about them and their reality either.

4th, you can and should control who gets to come to the US. Where were you when Obama was doing just that?

5th, you can have your own identity and Ive never said otherwise.

6th obviously the role should go to an ADOS woman, but Ill remind you that the director is ADOS and she the one who gets to chose.

7th I know they went after Fergurson PD, which is more then Trump would ever do. Look, im not gonna defend Obama on everything, he wasnt perfect, but he did speak at lenght on those issues. Cacs didnt listen but Obama told and them the truth. Trump and his family are out here trolling the country with " oh but look at all the blacks who killed each other in chicago". I mean...

8th, I dont know enough about the homelessness issue to get into solutions. Whats causing it to reach those levels?

How do we combat gentrification? Ok, we teach our kids about budgeting, spending, economics, and the power of owning land. Even if its the cheapest condo you can find, its better then renting. Cacs learn about these things much earlier then we do, mostly because their parents pass shit down to them, but we have the power to do the same for our children.

 

[Soul On Ice]

Democrats can’t do anything of substance right now because they are the minority. Which is why I have always been for less white people in power. Currently I think that’s through the Democratic Party,

Beto is stepping up his game.

BETO O'ROURKE CALL TRUMP WHITE SUPREMACIST WITHOUT HESITATION
https://m.jpost.com/American-Politi...p-white-supremacist-without-hesitation-597996

AOC


But that’s all they can do right now is talk until we remove a significant amount of white people in the government.

Now answer to what I asked eh?
We know theh racist. There's no need to state the obvious. What policies are they implementing in the Democrats controlled house to address WS?
Gimme something to vote for..

 

[Watcher]

Now answer to what I asked eh?
We know theh racist. There's no need to state the obvious. What policies are they implementing in the Democrats controlled house to address WS?
Gimme something to vote for..

Shit. I did answer your question.

Vote to get rid of white people. Nothing will be done until then...that’s including too many white people in the Democratic Party.

If you haven’t noticed I’m not pushing for people to vote in 2020. It really doesn’t matter now. You and I aren’t going to see any significant change in our life time. It’s too late. Nothing is getting past this group.

One more time. Nothing for reparations or to limit white supremacy will be put forth by any party lead by majority of white people. If you want to vote do it to remove a white person.

 

[mangobob79]

You misunderstand my past comments. I'm not anti reparations, I'm pro EFFECTIVE action if you are going to talk about and pursue them. Bitching and moaning isn't a plan. I haven't been able to go through the info Va posted for me yet to see if it obtains a plan, but if it does, going from the comments from you and other posters, it hasn't been made clear enough for you all to grasp there is one and articulate how things get done and passed into law.

Thus far all I've seen is a set of grievances voiced and attacks on immigrant blacks. The grievances may be valid, and people need to know about them, but pointing them out loudly and expecting that to evoke change is even less than our ancestors did during civil rights. I used to have a supervisor that wouldn't listen to complaints or criticism unless it was constructive. We couldn't raise concerns unless we also had an action plan to correct it. Thus far, what I've seen is a group of folks who want the spotlight on them while they run the Oppression Olympics, where even if you win you've lost. We have been victims of WS, but accepting this victim mentality where all you can do is talk about the wrongs done to you and feel powerless to change it, I can't get with that.

I had a friend who got sick years ago. I don't recall the condition but it weakened him and he was on a lot of meds. At first he fought against it, then the attention and sympathy for his condition and the responses from others about his doing so well with all the issues he has and how amazing he is to keep going started to affect him and he started to live for that feedback. He stopped trying to improve his condition and started embracing it as part of his identity. He was (it appeared to me at least) no longer interested in getting well because being sick benefited him. I don't want being diseased, defective, oppressed etc synonymous with black folks. I want the victory over what ails us to be the story. Reparations can and probably should be part of the story, but so far what I see being articulated, and again I haven't read and viewed the info Va posted, is embracing what ails us, bringing up to folks how they were complicit in our illness, and railing against others affected by the same disease. Yes, you want to be aware of what made you sick and avoid or eradicate it, but just identifying it and talking about it, that's not a cure.

why are u still engaging these fools ? they arent very smart and dont have an original thought in their brainless heads other than what their slime snake ugly queen n minions tweets out to them
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i dont care what they say about me , this is an online forum where ppl can assume anything and make any narrative seem legit ,and its clear they've been selectively picking negative stories to create a false narrative to push their bullshit agenda (kinda like faux news and all those right wing website make u feel every black person is in jail or a criminal or born criminally minded on account of being born black! we all see clearly !
two can play that game but i dont have the time or the energy for it, these are childs games ,
im engaged in more constructive circles buiding with more constructive brothers to even bother with these fools anymore, they've been exposed!
this fool talks about edo state in nigeria ! ask him what does he know about the state or its people other than the negative tainted story they purposely scoured the internet searching for so they can create their narrative?
ask him/it who has he interacted with from Edo to get an idea of the truth to the story, but of course they jump on it as truth, becos they have a confirmation bias! (kinda like cacs & racists when dealing wit black folks!)

the idiot is posting stories of women caught up in economic situations who whore themselves off to cacs in europe (as if that doenst happen here in AMERICA and what does she say about the richest country on earth where the women cant be satisified with getting a job and maintaining a humble decent lifestyle but instead resort to go to dubai to be porta potties ?
and should we judge the whole population of black americans on account of these countless black american women who subject themselves as porta potties to cacs & arabs here in america and dubai ?

he talk of deportation! obama deported more ppl than bush why werent they praising him for doing that since that is what they desire so much?


AND FOR THE LAST TIME !! What do edo women whoring themselves have to do with reparation? what does the fake anti-pan african stories have to do with reparations? why was it even a thought in their minds !

 

[Mr. Met]

Any critique of ADOS........"you're against reparations"...........so childish.

 

[mangobob79]

1st, I didnt criticize the movement, because not all of yall are in on defending these cac's honor on some "both parties are the same" shit. Thats Thats why I said I hope ADOS in this thread check these coons.

2nd, KT gives multiple tweets in a single post addressing a variety of things. I agree with most but I pick which ones I address. Thats how this works. I dont tell you what to quote or not quote.

3rd, Im not Nigerian, I dont know anything about their reality. I do know this though, they are NOT in the way of ADOS getting reparations, unless you let cacs distract you with their deflection games. I suspect that besides your talking points you know nothing about them and their reality either.

4th, you can and should control who gets to come to the US. Where were you when Obama was doing just that?

5th, you can have your own identity and Ive never said otherwise.

6th obviously the role should go to an ADOS woman, but Ill remind you that the director is ADOS and she the one who gets to chose.

7th I know they went after Fergurson PD, which is more then Trump would ever do. Look, im not gonna defend Obama on everything, he wasnt perfect, but he did speak at lenght on those issues. Cacs didnt listen but Obama told and them the truth. Trump and his family are out here trolling the country with " oh but look at all the blacks who killed each other in chicago". I mean...

8th, I dont know enough about the homelessness issue to get into solutions. Whats causing it to reach those levels?

How do we combat gentrification? Ok, we teach our kids about budgeting, spending, economics, and the power of owning land. Even if its the cheapest condo you can find, its better then renting. Cacs learn about these things much earlier then we do, mostly because their parents pass shit down to them, but we have the power to do the same for our children.

stop tryin to talk to slow people , they gonna circle back to the same false talking points which are nothing but projections,
they dont have anything but blames for everyone, they cant even put forth a candidate, they cant even create a pac to get an advocate in the senate who will push for what they claim to want but fight against everyone not talking reparation 24/7 !!
they never have smoke for repubs only smoke for dems but they also have all the smoke for small group of ppl who r nothing more than 3% of black populace in america,
so 3% of black populace is stopping 90% of black americans from achieving?
is there an active moment by these nigerians, union or organization with an hastag or actual movement thats fighting against reparation?

 

[mangobob79]

It’s not support of Reagan and Trump. It’s critically assessing the actions, or lack thereof, of the Democrats just as much as we do the Republicans, along with critically analyzing the pan-Afrikan ideologies of the ADOS critics.

You quoted Taharqa’s post which has a series of tweets about several issues, only to scroll past all of those points to scold the ADOS movement for “supporting” Reagan and Trump.

Let’s critically look at all of the points made in those tweets, shall we?

• Nigerian women, mostly from the Edo state, are being tricked and trafficked as prostitutes to Italy. Why the Edo people and who’s doing the trafficking? Is this a tribal or ethnic thing? But “we all black”, right?

• 994 Nigerians are being deported from Ghana? But I thought “we all black”? Funny how ADOS can’t have our own identity while non-ADOS black people can. Hell, they can restrict foreign blacks from coming into their countries and societies if need be. But if we try that.......
• Cynthia Erivo, a Black Brit of Nigerian descent who has tweets mocking Black American “ghetto” accents and is best friends with another Nigerian, Luvvie, who has numerous tweets mocking Black American slave speech, is not only playing a Black American freedom fighter from slavery - Harriet Tubman, but also has voiced another Black American freedom fighter - Rosa Parks. Both roles require her to speak in deep Black American southern accents. The very speech patterns she and Luvvie have mocked. What are your thoughts on this? (why dont u take up with teh black american casting director and companies ?)
• How many black people were murdered by police during the Obama Administration with a “black” Democratic president and “black” Democratic Attorney General at the head of the Justice Department? What definitive actions were taken by these men in response to those unjust killings?
• In a mostly Democratic city like Los Angeles, there is massive homelessness, with the bulk of those homeless being ADOS black men. In overwhelmingly Democratic cities like San Francisco, NYC, and DC, there has been massive gentrification with large-scale displacement of black residents. What do you suggest black people do in light of this happening in a Democratic-dominated city?

Despite all of this, you say the ADOS movement is wrong. If so, can you please address the above points and how these issues should be addressed? Your response will be appreciated.

eiptome of uniformed unread sheep who believes half truths and carefully curated negative narrative to push and agenda! faux news will love u

 

[mangobob79]

the projection is huge in this one ! ur leader and thought & talking point giver, (since u cant think for urselves) is scouring the internet searchin for -ve stories about nigerians, (becos he knows so few in real life but somehow is an expert on nigerians living in the globe!) (it kinda reminds me of racist white folks who never interact with black folks but seem to have alot to say & hold all the answers & opinions about black folks )

but i must ask for what purpose? how does that help u achieve REPARATION ?
talkin about nigerian women prostitutes in turin ? and u say nothing about the young black girls kidnapped in america yearly , who are pimped out for economic reasons ,
or the ones who are in dubai porta potty lifestyle pics becos they cant live a humble life on a workers salary ? are they also a representation of all black americans?

this dumb twitter fool tweets :

"No one is coming here, black or brown, to be part of an underclass, get killed by race soldiers,or be discriminated against in all parts of American society. They are coming here to access whiteness."


why do folks emigrate anywhere if not to seek a better life? and how is that to "access whiteness"? who travels anywhere to get killed killed ? what dumb questions n projection!
they shouldnt got to school? they shouldnt seek high paying jobs ?
what about the white europeans who come here by the boatloads every year to cramp the construction business?

 

[Joe Money]

I don't think so. You can't be a politician or tied to the political machinery and pitch like this.

And it's bananas to even think Obama could pitch this. The GOP wouldn't even take up his S.C. nominee.

Marianne Williamson is able to do a diet version of it. And Obama was certainly in a position to “pitch” it. He had no problem pitching that “pull yourself up by the bootstraps” shit like he did in his Morehouse speech.

 

[Joe Money]

eiptome of uniformed unread sheep who believes half truths and carefully curated negative narrative to push and agenda! faux news will love u

But you’re unable to address nor refute a single point.