9th Wonder & Young Guru Debate/Explain Why Kendrick Lamar CANNOT LOSE At This Point

[Ming Fei Hong]

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Lol don't blame this on the new generation. I see old fuckers in here talking this shit.

 

[BDR]

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These NY niggas mad Cali got the juice and their favorite NY rappers don't get raido play outside their borough.

It's not his fault tho. Blame the hype machine backing it & the lack there of for the NY rappers.


The fact remains if Kendrick hadn't said that little line about NY...none of these irrelevant niggas would be making tracks & would still be looking for a way to come up. They should actually thank Kendrick for extending their 15 minutes of fame in the limelight.

It always takes an LA nigga to shake the fuck outta New York.

First Snoop came tru and crushed the buildings

Now K.Dot got these niggas scrambling getting emotional of a "phantom diss"





New York niggas....

Exhibit A of a dumb ass nigga post right here

Clearly this shit went completely over his head

Typical young dumb nigga response

Faggit nigga don't even realize nobody don't have a problem with him calling out his peers whom he named

It's the NY line that dumb niggas like this wave wearing shinny suit fag posting from the love boat don't realize dumb niggas like him will misinterpret the NY line and make it about some east coast west coast bullshit

DAZ DILLENGER already made a dumb nigga tweet bout history repeating itself with a pic of snoop kicking down some fake building that suppose to be NY in a Cali studio

 

[2 ONE 3]

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Beatdown shut your short ass up Jake


The fact still remains. If Kendrick didn't say that line. None of these niggas would be scrambling to make tracks.


Point. Blank. Period. All that other shit is irrelevant.

It took a westcoast cat to spark hunger & passion back into the game

He is the catalyst. Everyone else is following behind Kendrick's footsteps.

Tell me where I'm wrong you fuckin fag.

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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Lamar is the best rapper alive? Some real delusional ass niggas on this board man smh

I wouldn't say he is but who would you say is??? 50 Cent???

 

[exiledking]

9th Wonder & Young Guru Debate/Explain Why Kendrick Lamar CANNOT LOSE At This...

Beatdown shut your short ass up Jake


The fact still remains. If Kendrick didn't say that line. None of these niggas would be scrambling to make tracks.


Point. Blank. Period. All that other shit is irrelevant.

It took a westcoast cat to spark hunger & passion back into the game

He is the catalyst. Everyone else is following behind Kendrick's footsteps.

Tell me where I'm wrong you fuckin fag.

Do you have the Internet son?

Every week there is a new hot song out, and every week, a shit ton of rappers get the instrumental and try to rhyme over it. Some more than others.

So how is this any different? Oh yeah- he said names on it so now you people actually NOTICE.

 

[BDR]

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I wouldn't say he is but who would you say is??? 50 Cent???

Nas period end of discussion

 

[2 ONE 3]

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Do you have the Internet son?

Every week there is a new hot song out, and every week, a shit ton of rappers get the instrumental and try to rhyme over it. Some more than others.

So how is this any different? Oh yeah- he said names on it.

You're an old nigga...

Since you calling me son & shit...

So your old enough to know the phrase a hit dog will hollar.


All these rappers are tying to capitalize off Kendrick's moment.

But none of these niggas will have created the same kind of response nor buzz Kendrick has.

He's got the juice right now. And he didn't even diss anybody...

 

[BDR]

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Do you have the Internet son?

Every week there is a new hot song out, and every week, a shit ton of rappers get the instrumental and try to rhyme over it. Some more than others.

So how is this any different? Oh yeah- he said names on it so now you people actually NOTICE.

Don't waste your time talking to that dumb ass nigga he don't get it

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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Nas period end of discussion

 

[BDR]

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Am I wrong?

 

[2 ONE 3]

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For these herb ass NY niggas




"Ether"

[gunshots]

[2Pac talking]
("Fuck Jay-Z")
What's up niggas, ay yo, I know you ain't talking 'bout me dog
You, what?
("Fuck Jay-Z")
You been on my dick nigga, you love my style, nigga
("Fuck Jay-Z")

[Chorus]
(I) Fuck with your soul like ether
(Will) Teach you the king you know you
(Not) "God's son" across the belly
(Lose) I prove you lost already

Brace yourself for the main event
Y'all impatiently waiting
It's like an AIDS test, what's the results?
Not positive, who's the best? Pac, Nas and Big
Ain't no best, East, West, North, South, flossed out, greedy
I embrace y'all with napalm
Blows up, no guts, left chest, face gone
How could Nas be garbage?
Semi-autos at your cartilage
Burner at the side of your dome, come outta my throne
I got this, locked since '9-1
I am the truest, name a rapper that I ain't influenced
Gave y'all chapters but now I keep my eyes on the Judas
With Hawaiian Sophie fame, kept my name in his music
Check it

[Chorus]

[talking]
Ay yo, pass me the weed, pour my ashes out on these niggas man (no doubt)
Ay, y'all faggots, y'all kneel and kiss the fucking ring

[Chorus]

I've been fucked over, left for dead, dissed and forgotten
Luck ran out, they hoped that I'd be gone, stiff and rotten
Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave (uh)
Talk about me, laugh behind my back but in my face
Y'all some "well wishers," friendly acting, envy hiding snakes
With your hands out for my money, man, how much can I take?
When these streets keep calling, heard it when I was sleep
That this Gay-Z and Cockafella Records wanted beef
Started cocking up my weapon, slowly loading up this ammo
To explode it on a camel, and his soldiers, I can handle
This for dolo and it's manuscript, just sound stupid
When KRS already made an album called Blueprint
First, Biggie's ya man, then you got the nerve to say that you better than Big
Dick sucking lips, why not you let the late, great veteran live

[talking]
(I...will...not...lose)
"God's son" across the belly, I prove you lost already
The king is back, where my crown at?
(Ill...will) Ill Will rest in peace, let's do it niggas

[Chorus]

Y'all niggas deal with emotions like bitches
What's sad is I love you 'cause you're my brother
You traded your soul for riches
My child, I've watched you grow up to be famous
And now I smile like a proud dad, watching his only son that made it
You seem to be only concerned with dissing women
Were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly?
Well life is hard, hug me, don't reject me
Or make records to disrespect me, blatent or indirectly
In '88 you was getting chased through your building
Calling my crib and I ain't even give you my numbers
All I did was gave you a style for you to run with
Smiling in my face, glad to break bread with the god
Wearing Jaz chains, no tecs, no cash, no cars
No jail bars Jigga, no pies, no case
Just Hawaiian shirts, hanging with little Chase
You a fan, a phony, a fake, a pussy, a Stan
I still whip your ass, you thirty-six in a karate class
You Tae-bo hoe, tryna' work it out, you tryna' get brolic?
Ask me if I'm tryna' kick knowledge
Nah, I'm tryna' kick the shit you need to learn though
That ether, that shit that make your soul burn slow
Is he Dame Diddy, Dame Daddy or Dame Dummy?
Oh, I get it, you Biggie and he's Puffy
Rockefeller died of AIDS, that was the end of his chapter
And that's the guy y'all chose to name your company after?
Put it together, I rock hoes, y'all rock fellas
And now y'all try to take my spot, fellas?
Philly's hot rock fellas, put you in a dry spot, fellas
In a pine box with nine shots from my glock, fellas
Foxy got you hot 'cause you kept your face in her puss
What you think, you getting girls now 'cause of your looks?
Ne-gro please
You no mustache having, with whiskers like a rat
Compared to Beans you wack
And your man stabbed Un and made you take the blame
You ass, went from Jaz to hanging with Caine, to Herb, to Big
And, Eminem murdered you on your own shit
You a dick-riding faggot, you love the attention
Queens niggas run you niggas, ask Russell Simmons
Ha, R-O-C get gunned up and clapped quick
J.J. Evans get gunned up and clapped quick
Your whole damn record label gunned up and clapped quick
Shawn Carter to Jay-Z, damn you on Jaz dick
So little shorty's getting gunned up and clapped quick
How much of Biggie's rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?
Wanted to be on every last one of my classics
You pop shit, apologize, nigga, just ask Kiss


​

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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Am I wrong?

I don't get into who's da best & who's not b/c all that matter to me is da music bein' good. Fuck all that egotistical shit y'all niggas like to get into. And I fucks w/Nas but his albums have been da soundtrack to many great naps for me.

 

[BDR]

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^^^^^^ nas been in since 91 with more than a few classic albums under his belt

But we talkin lyrically are we not? So who better if it ain't NAS?

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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^^^^^^ nas been in since 91 with more than a few classic albums under his belt

But we talkin lyrically are we not? So who better if it ain't NAS?

I know how long da nigga been rappin' as I at one time used to be heavy on that Queensbridge shit so that shit is irrelevant. You steadily askin' me who's better or who's da best when I clearly said I don't get into those arguments about shit that's purely fueled by regionalism or ego. You feel he's da best, cool. But that don't mean that you'll be able to project that shit unto me as if I'm supposed to agree or some shit. That shit simply doesn't work w/err'body.

 

[BDR]

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I know how long da nigga been rappin' as I at one time used to be heavy on that Queensbridge shit so that shit is irrelevant. You steadily askin' me who's better or who's da best when I clearly said I don't get into those arguments about shit that's purely fueled by regionalism or ego. You feel he's da best, cool. But that don't mean that you'll be able to project that shit unto me as if I'm supposed to agree or some shit. That shit simply doesn't work w/err'body.

So you basically co sign 3times saying Lamar is the best rapper alive right?

Cause I quoted 3times as being delusional

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

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Lets be real here... Where has Kendrick ever spat bars as consistent as the rest of the true spitters in the game? Put us onto something he's done that's super lyrical.

Ortiz does this shit in his sleep.

We'll wait for a response from Kendrick and given the lack of potency from all the rest, Ortiz better be the first one he jabs at.

All I know is, his response better be on some Takeover shit cause anything less is gonna fall way short and he's gonna be open for business amongst hip hop heads.

you're bugging.

you must not listen to him, simple as that. and that's ok.

 

[Duval's King]

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If a tree falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound? Ortiz blacked out on his response track, so did Cassidy and King Los, but it's Kendrick's moment. He's on some Parker Lewis shit. Can't lose.

Cosign all of those

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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So you basically co sign 3times saying Lamar is the best rapper alive right?

Cause I quoted 3times as being delusional

Point out where I cosigned him in that. I'll wait.

 

[ljinsane]

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it's only funny that you guys think so.

He dropped a verse naming names. The only part of the verse worth listening to was that part.

THAT wouldn't even have mattered had he not been on top of the game right now.

Case in point- he did it years ago, when he wasn't on, and no the internet didn't go crazy like they are now:


listen from 1:00- notice this clip doesn't even have 1 million hits.

He really gets into namimng names on 1:53

"I'm the best rapper alive, tell Wayne to swallow his pride"

Then he goes on to list Jay, Lupe, whoever was out then too.

This isn't new from him at all. He's just stayed consistent. Good for him.

wow, talk about missing the big picture here

 

[BDR]

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Point out where I cosigned him in that. I'll wait.

I was asking if you were

Total difference

 

[Chitownheadbusa]

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First Stop-and-Frisk laws, now this.
Niggas just cant win in NY.



.....this shit is actually fun.
Thxs Kendrick!

 

[2 ONE 3]

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Without Kendirck


This whole conversation doesn't happen.


Cali is too active right now.


The game needed something like this.


And the push didn't come from NY...Didn't come from down south


It came from US

 

[MadWun]

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.....this shit is actually fun.
Thxs Kendrick!

 

[ljinsane]

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Without Kendirck


This whole conversation doesn't happen.


Cali is too active right now.


The game needed something like this.


And the push didn't come from NY...Didn't come from down south


It came from US

WestTheFuckUP

 

[ShortyCumStain]

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It came from US

Us?! You don't rap tho'.

 

[MadWun]

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Without Kendirck


This whole conversation doesn't happen.


Cali is too active right now.


The game needed something like this.


And the push didn't come from NY...Didn't come from down south


It came from US

Us?! You don't rap tho'.

MC Wavy

 

[2 ONE 3]

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Us?! You don't rap tho'.

MC Wavy

 

[BDR]

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Us?! You don't rap tho'.

See

 

[Cock Head Jones]

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It came from US

lol no it came from kendrick lamar.

who is us? u topdawg affiliated or something?

i know its cool and all but pump ur breaks fam.

 

[2 ONE 3]

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lol no it came from kendrick lamar.

who is us? u topdawg affiliated or something?

Why are you niggas being so literal?


Us = the West

It seems like you cats are feeling a certain kinda way your region didn't come up with this shit first.


either way...Fuck all yall...


The two words on the sig say it all.

 

[II Dxnum]

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I'm sorry 2 one 3 but this was not a collaborative effort among west coast artists. It's not like a series of events spearheaded by west coast artists got at us to this point. 'Our guy is the one who caused this' will do just fine.

 

[2 ONE 3]

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I'm sorry 2 one 3 but this was not a collaborative effort among west coast artists. It's not like a series of events spearheaded by west coast artists got at us to this point. 'Our guy is the one who caused this' will do just fine.

Kendrick was given the key to the city & the torch from Snoop, Dre, Kurrupt, Quik & even the weak ass Game.

We support our artist. And even though Kendrick killed the track on his own. He needed the support from all of US (the westcoast for you slow muthafuckas) to reach the level where he is now.


When will you niggas understand that I don't give a fuck about your thoughts or criticisms and will say exactly what I want...When I want...And how I want.

When them NY niggas, Southern niggas do this shit let me know

 

[II Dxnum]

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When will you niggas understand that I don't give a fuck about your thoughts or criticisms and will say exactly what I want...When I want...And how I want.]

And none of that changes that fact that you're wrong.

 

[2 ONE 3]

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And none of that will change the fact that when you're wrong you're wrong.

I haven't said not one thing wrong in this entire thread tho.

 

[TruDat]

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good analysis.

great video, c/s the analysis , this is about bars and not having future on your hook



"what you going say?" "he don't care about the cars, the money, the jewelry."

Guru was on point with it.

...GET YOUR BARS UP...

100% Correct..

END ALL THE EXTRA BULLSHIT SURROUNDING KENDRICKS... nobody can respond to that shit period....

that was an excellent and valid debate

First Stop-and-Frisk laws, now this.
Niggas just cant win in NY.



.....this shit is actually fun.
Thxs Kendrick!

THESE^^^^^

I agree thnx K-Dot for getting cats heated
to actually make some quality rhymes