80's Music Acts (And Their Knock-Offs)
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Good thread.
So who produced those Basic Black records?
O'Brien was a Michael Jacson knock-off.
"What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Bros. and "Steal Away" by Robbie Dupree had the same beat.
Then in 1990 we had "The Power" both Chill Rob G's and Snap's version. I liked Chill Rob G's version because he was a dope MC. Snap on the other hand was wack as fuck.
"What a Fool Believes" by the Doobie Bros. and "Steal Away" by Robbie Dupree had the same beat.
Then in 1990 we had "The Power" both Chill Rob G's and Snap's version. I liked Chill Rob G's version because he was a dope MC. Snap on the other hand was wack as fuck.
I would say Mucho ( 2nd from right ) produced those records, along with Darryl ( Aaron's cousin. Far right ).
You have to understand that Basic Black was nothing more than the product of everybody else leaving Gene.
The road band musicians and wannabes were more than happy to stay with him, even though they KNEW he was stealing publishing, advances and tour money.
Grimey shit was that they was wearing Guy's clothes from the road in their 1st video. LOL. That's some nasty shit. You wanna replace a group so bad that you wear the next man's pants and shirts that you seen them sweat in for mad shows? Disgusting.
In the end, Gene robbed them too. Months later, Darryl was driving around ATL poppin shit about him and threatening to shoot him on sight.
Gene heard about it, found him and pistol whipped his teeth out his face.
True story.
I would say Mucho ( 2nd from right ) produced those records, along with Darryl ( Aaron's cousin. Far right ).
You have to understand that Basic Black was nothing more than the product of everybody else leaving Gene.
The road band musicians and wannabes were more than happy to stay with him, even though they KNEW he was stealing publishing, advances and tour money.
Grimey shit was that they was wearing Guy's clothes from the road in their 1st video. LOL. That's some nasty shit. You wanna replace a group so bad that you wear the next man's pants and shirts that you seen them sweat in for mad shows? Disgusting.
In the end, Gene robbed them too. Months later, Darryl was driving around ATL poppin shit about him and threatening to shoot him on sight.
Gene heard about it, found him and pistol whipped his teeth out his face.
True story.
Damn! I never the lead singer was Aaron's cousin. I thought he was just biting Aaron's vocal style. You sound like you know a lil something!! Post some Gene Griffin stories for the board! Dude sounds grimier than Suge!!
Damn. Marlon wasn't even subtle about ripping off his brother.
the fuckin moves and everything
Gene was one of the industry's 1st Suge Knights.
Truth be told, Gene was good peoples. He did gangster shit, but it always seemed to be business. (Unlike Suge doing wild shit at any time for almost nothing).
He used to be with Teddy's mother and practically raised him. He was getting money in the street for years and used to look out for certain people in St Nick here and there.
He got caught with some weight and ended up doing some time for tax evasion. (That was right b4 Guy jumped off).
When he got out though, Andre Harrell had not only signed Guy directly to his production company/Uptown Records, he was also using Guy studio budget money on other acts. Big no-no. (You gotta recoup what somebody ELSE spent? FOH)
When Gene confronted Andre about it, Andre made the mistake of poppin that good shit. Talking to him like he was just another industry dude. *At that time, most of the Black music industry gangsters were either locked up (Bill Underwood) or just behind the scenes, getting old. The point is...he didn't know he was fucking with a real one.
Gene beat the shit outta him in the office and made him sign all Guy's rights back to his own production company. (The same thing would be repeated almost 10 years later in Andre's office --- this time --- by Suge Knight for Devante. LOL)
But that's why, if you bought those records then, 'Groove Me' was on Uptown Records for the first batch. By the time 'Round and Round' and 'I Like' came out, all Guy's releases were directly on MCA Records.
Gene was one of the industry's 1st Suge Knights.
Truth be told, Gene was good peoples. He did gangster shit, but it always seemed to be business. (Unlike Suge doing wild shit at any time for almost nothing).
He used to be with Teddy's mother and practically raised him. He was getting money in the street for years and used to look out for certain people in St Nick here and there.
He got caught with some weight and ended up doing some time for tax evasion. (That was right b4 Guy jumped off).
When he got out though, Andre Harrell had not only signed Guy directly to his production company/Uptown Records, he was also using Guy studio budget money on other acts. Big no-no. (You gotta recoup what somebody ELSE spent? FOH)
When Gene confronted Andre about it, Andre made the mistake of poppin that good shit. Talking to him like he was just another industry dude. *At that time, most of the Black music industry gangsters were either locked up (Bill Underwood) or just behind the scenes, getting old. The point is...he didn't know he was fucking with a real one.
Gene beat the shit outta him in the office and made him sign all Guy's rights back to his own production company. (The same thing would be repeated almost 10 years later in Andre's office --- this time --- by Suge Knight for Devante. LOL)
But that's why, if you bought those records then, 'Groove Me' was on Uptown Records for the first batch. By the time 'Round and Round' and 'I Like' came out, all Guy's releases were directly on MCA Records.
<----------------- LOL @ grabbing the buttons. RIP Gene Griffin.
Good info man. So Andre Harrell got his ass beat twice!! I knew about the Suge beatdown (and alleged piss-drinking), but not Gene Griffin's. Makes sense now. I always wondered why Teddy Riley didn't really produce for Uptown artists. Seemed like most was done by Al B Sure, Kyle West, Mark Morales, Dave Hall, Rich Harrison, and DeVante.
Are you in that Facebook New Jack Swing group? There was a lot of talk in there about Teddy Riley's tribute on the Soul Train awards. People were wondering why no Blackstreet songs were performed, and Chauncey came in and said he didn't sign off on it.
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Ted was getting top, tOP, TOP coin to produce tracks back then. Not that they couldn't afford it, but Uptown could get a good sound from all those other dudes for waaay less money. (And yeah, Andre was shook too. LOL)
By the time Ted made the move to VA Beach and opened Future Studio, shit was getting weird. He was paranoid as fuck and really starting to piss day one people off with his shit. He was always a little bratty at times, but now shit was just over the top.
Him and Chauncey have/had a relationship that I don't think anybody understood. I think about Rick James and Charlie Murphy, but without the drugs, alcohol and violence. If that makes any sense.
Just know this: He was really feeling himself to the point that he forgot who he was talking to at times. That got him knocked down to the studio ground with a one-hitter delivered by...
And nah, I'm not in any of those FB groups. I read this or that about those times, laugh and rarely speak about all the misconceptions.
But I'm having fun, so why not?
Who?Just know this: He was really feeling himself to the point that he forgot who he was talking to at times. That got him knocked down to the studio ground with a one-hitter delivered by...
I say again, we got a lot of connected motherfuckers on this board
Would you let somebody, that's practically like your brother, talk to down to you while you're trying to have a civil discussion with him? Like literally hiding behind a karate-master bodyguard and talking to you like all your history growing up together don't mean shit? If you answered yes, you're a bigger man than most.
Also remember that we'll never know what Aqil could've been without Teddy. He always tried to keep everyone around him......BELOW him. He didn't like people around him getting attention. Ironically, he became more like Gene in the end. Not the gangster shit, but the 'make 'em need you' aspect of it.
Wrecks consisted of Aqil and Teddy's brother, Markell. So the loyalty was there. But like I said, Teddy don't like nobody else to shine. Put it this way: If Teddy had his way, everybody under him (That he also took bits and pieces from) would still be there, unheard of: The Neptunes, Rodney Jerkins, etc..
This shit takes me back! Feels like I'm at one of those "showcases", where local talent would go to get put on...
correct me if I am wrong, weren't dynasty and Shalamar on the same Label?
I would like to find that Sherrick song on Vinyl. It's a tragedy what happened to him . He died from substance abuse.
if im correct this is backwards.i think dana dane was out first then slick rick children story.i may be wrong
Man,thanks for the info.....Gene I heard he was the suge knight before suge and that that's who Suge pattern himself after(dress,cigar smoking).
Basic Black,was terrible looking in that video...them clothes look like they didn't fit.Like biscuits about to bust out the can
4 by four or whatever....Man I'm glad I was too young to remember any of them sugary sweet voiced ass singers,niggas sound like they warm up their vocals with vassaline ,ol basic ass riddle me not ass songs "I want you,I need you....just come over" ...where was Bobby when you needed him to just beat the shit out of some of those groups or at least kick em off stage.
Basic Black,was terrible looking in that video...them clothes look like they didn't fit.Like biscuits about to bust out the can
4 by four or whatever....Man I'm glad I was too young to remember any of them sugary sweet voiced ass singers,niggas sound like they warm up their vocals with vassaline ,ol basic ass riddle me not ass songs "I want you,I need you....just come over" ...where was Bobby when you needed him to just beat the shit out of some of those groups or at least kick em off stage.
it should be the other way around if you ask me.
Wow, the same Rich Harrison that produced Amerie early in her career?
Didnt one of these dudes punch Q-Tip in the face?.....Thats why he wore a mask in the "hot sex on a platter" video
Nope, but that was their crew, Posse Deep, that did.
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