50 Cent and Steve Stoute confrontation at MSG

Stoute a hating ass nigga. He didn't answer the question, he went on to say 50 isn't influential anymore because he hasn't had a hit but skated around his influence on the game in the beginning of his stardom. Stoute is ignoring his contribution on the rap game refuses to acknowledge it. He still salty.




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Niggas say make a hit record but fail to realize 50 in a position where he dont have to make another record ever again

Your favorite artist Rawse can't do that

Fwiw, 50 made it about sales and "hit records". He's a victim of his own doing. He's what he used to pick fun at concerning other artists. If niggas stopped puttin' so much emphasis on making hits and simply make dope music then they can get somewhere.

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Puffy would be jermaine Dupree wit no sean john of big was still alive

You are talking about a guy who made the careers of folks at Uptown Records. Who was fired from there and went out on his own.
Diddy was going to be big with or without Biggie.
 
Fwiw, 50 made it about sales and "hit records". He's a victim of his own doing. He's what he used to pick fun at concerning other artists. If niggas stopped puttin' so much emphasis on making hits and simply make dope music then they can get somewhere.

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Curtis the one who started that shit. Had fans looking up Soundscan numbers and shit.

It all came full circle for Curtis. All that beefing with every rapper in the game who did a song with Ja Rule.....shitting on Ja Rule for singing on records......shitting on dudes for their record sales....it all came full circle. Fast forward to 2014, he has no record label or any artists, dudes he came into the game with no longer fuck with him, Em and Dre fucking with him at a distance......

He was his own worst enemy and I don't even think he knew it.
 
You are talking about a guy who made the careers of folks at Uptown Records. Who was fired from there and went out on his own.
Diddy was going to be big with or without Biggie.

Wit Craig mack????????

Flavor in ya ear > juicy?

Nah breh
 
If big didnt due puff would be where he at now

I disagree. Where would Jodeci and Mary J be without Puff's influence? Y'all talking like BIG influenced Puff.......it was the other way around. I guarantee you if BIG was alive he would still be making money with Puff right now. Maybe not on Bad Boy but them cats would still be affiliated.
 
Diddy doin songs wit Gucci and wake flocks and future

He's a fucking leech.

But he has money


How you greedy and u got the most money in the room?

They talmbout he can become a owner of a NFL team brehs

Can u imagine tht nigga in the CBA meetings????

Players wouldn't get shit
 
Wit Craig mack????????

Flavor in ya ear > juicy?

Nah breh

Are you serious.:lol:
Did you forget that Diddy is the guy who made Uptown Records with such act like Mary J. Blige, Jodeci. Look what happen to Uptown when he left. The guy is not a one trick pony. It's the reason why he is still relevant still day. His other acts were on the charts and did well.
 
Diddy doin songs wit Gucci and wake flocks and future

He's a fucking leech.

But he has money


How you greedy and u got the most money in the room?

They talmbout he can become a owner of a NFL team brehs

Can u imagine tht nigga in the CBA meetings????

Players wouldn't get shit

Diddy is the one that made wake flocks relevant. Remember he invented the remix.
 
Stoute a hating ass nigga. He didn't answer the question, he went on to say 50 isn't influential anymore because he hasn't had a hit but skated around his influence on the game in the beginning of his stardom. Stoute is ignoring his contribution on the rap game refuses to acknowledge it. He still salty.




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yep people forget that the whole mixtape song format was started by 50. what every rapper is doing till this day:lol:
Yeah but just because BIG was leaving wasn't gonna stop the affiliation. Just like how Jada and the Lox left....but 'till this day will do records with Puff despite saying on live radio they wanted to kill him and dump a fridge on him.



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if that was the case then yes.


but remember what made puff big was that song about biggie. and they wasnt on good terms so it could had been beef and biggie could have shitted on puff. not saying that puff would be broke but niggas were riding for big not puff
 
yep people forget that the whole mixtape song format was started by 50. what every rapper is doing till this day:lol:
if that was the case then yes.


but remember what made puff big was that song about biggie. and they wasnt on good terms so it could had been beef and biggie could have shitted on puff. not saying that puff would be broke but niggas were riding for big not puff

"Can't Hold Me Down" was 4 million sold and sold more singles than "I'll Be Missing You". His affiliation with BIG helped him. I'm not debating that. I'm debating the fact that y'all think as cocky and conceded as Puff is, he'd kill BIG because he believed he couldn't make another Biggie. That's not Puff. If he killed BIG, it surely wasn't because he thought he couldn't make money without him.
 
Killa was the first one to make Curtis look like a fool.....at a time when Curtis was the one doing it. Then Game followed suit than Rozay......

BULLSHIT. Puff Daddy and the Family was already in motion when BIG was alive. Shit BIG was in the "Can't Hold Me Down" video with Eddie Griffin and shit. :lol:

Man that shit wasn't going to come out if big was still doing mafioso rap

Biggie wasn't wearing no shiny suits breh

No way in hell
 
yep people forget that the whole mixtape song format was started by 50. what every rapper is doing till this day:lol:
if that was the case then yes.


but remember what made puff big was that song about biggie. and they wasnt on good terms so it could had been beef and biggie could have shitted on puff. not saying that puff would be broke but niggas were riding for big not puff

Diplomats started the mixtapes

Diplomats mixtapes >>>> g unit mixtapes

Even tho both was pure fire
 
"Can't Hold Me Down" was 4 million sold and sold more singles than "I'll Be Missing You". His affiliation with BIG helped him. I'm not debating that. I'm debating the fact that y'all think as cocky and conceded as Puff is, he'd kill BIG because he believed he couldn't make another Biggie. That's not Puff. If he killed BIG, it surely wasn't because he thought he couldn't make money without him.

where did i say that puff killed big:confused: shit i still think suge killed big if you ask me.
 
where did i say that puff killed big:confused: shit i still think suge killed big if you ask me.

Well that's what was initially being debated. I was replying to someone else and then you replied to me. But my initial reply was people talking about Puff killed BIG......and I stated why? There's no perks of doing it. It doesn't benefit Puff....
 
Man BIG would've been in a shiny suit Patrick Ewing jersey and shit if he had to.

Big and droc woulda been in those overalls sheek had wit chris tucker in feels so good video?

Na

Brooklyn niggas wasn't wearing no shiny suits

Wit the lil goggles n shit

Remember all those post big death videos had big verses in them n shit

He knew biggie wasn't gonna cosign that shit so he said fuck it. I'll just use ya voice.

Biggie was focused on junior mafia and Kim and making PUFF HIS ARTIST

Diddy was like niggga please, let's go to Cali
 
Well that's what was initially being debated. I was replying to someone else and then you replied to me. But my initial reply was people talking about Puff killed BIG......and I stated why? There's no perks of doing it. It doesn't benefit Puff....

yeah my reply was more saying that they had beef and biggie wouldnt necessary work with puff after he left. biggie really didnt like puff.
 
yeah my reply was more saying that they had beef and biggie wouldnt necessary work with puff after he left. biggie really didnt like puff.

I didn't know that but I don't debate that. It wouldn't shock me. Jay and Kanye didn't really like Dame and they both kind of are similar. It makes sense.
 
Yeah but just because BIG was leaving wasn't gonna stop the affiliation. Just like how Jada and the Lox left....but 'till this day will do records with Puff despite saying on live radio they wanted to kill him and dump a fridge on him.







I don't see a difference between Puff or Fif or any label owners. They all the same. Artists learn from the best. They get screwed over on their record deals and do the same to their artists. Its just a big ass cycle.







JD is a kid mogul. That's how he got popular. He got popular off Kriss Kross and stayed relevent with Bow Wow. That's real shit. And he "makes" real music with Johnta Austin and Bryan Michael Cox. Its not just him and hearing B. Cox without him and vice versa? Clearly B. Cox is far more than just another guy in the studio.



Puff is a attention whore. He thinks highly of himself. He can make another BIG in his eyes. He ain't on no "Oh shit...I gotta kill this dude so I can make money off 1 more album....". That shit is silly. You gonna kill him so you can eat off 1 damn album worth of new material? Come on fam......


U serious puffy has all rights to biggie"s catalog -his mom get a piece and his daughter gets royalties broken off but puffy cuts the check- puffy owns Everythjng related to biggie not just 1 album smh - that new Ross song pays royalties to biggie that lil snup song with meek pays to biggie - ultimately paying puffy - so u think when biggie died puff gave up his control/ publishing/ rights lol I'm banking that he got more control and rights same a suge - well before he had to sell death row records but I think he still has some of if not all of tupac catalogs - did n diddy are not the same - find a gunit artist complaining about not getting paid now find a badboy artist - oh that's right
 
I didn't know that but I don't debate that. It wouldn't shock me. Jay and Kanye didn't really like Dame and they both kind of are similar. It makes sense.

yeah its crazy cause puff made big do shit he didnt want to do. then puff supposedly fucked with his money too. grimey world.
 
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