No, fuck boy. I want you to explain it, so I can make you look like a fool as usual.
So explain how LL got to Def Jam muthafucka.
Go, bitch
50 Cent and Steve Stoute confrontation at MSG
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No, fuck boy. I want you to explain it, so I can make you look like a fool as usual.
So explain how LL got to Def Jam muthafucka.
Go, bitch
Dipset started this shit
50 took it and twisted it
Kid Capri dj clue ROn G and kay slay was hosts to the mixtape not the actual artist.
Dtown saltiest right! Those down mixtapes cost a grip back when big moe was doing em.
I paid like 50 Dollas for like 50 tracks!
50 took it and twisted it
Kid Capri dj clue ROn G and kay slay was hosts to the mixtape not the actual artist.
Dtown saltiest right! Those down mixtapes cost a grip back when big moe was doing em.
I paid like 50 Dollas for like 50 tracks!
Shits out of control now 
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I can't even keep up, it went from 50's dead music career to Biggie and Dipset's mix tapes.
. I can't even keep up, it went from 50's dead music career to Biggie and Dipset's mix tapes.
Stop looking in the mirror when you type. Go and get your assignment done
Cam was writing songs for biggie and junior mafia
Complex right
The professionals albums was straight mixtapes and remixs
Complex right
The professionals albums was straight mixtapes and remixs
I watched that whole chronicles of junior mafia DVD
Kim and puffy didn't want that to come out and expose them
Kim and puffy didn't want that to come out and expose them
Let me expose this fool
LL was doing demos
So now, demos are mixtapes?
That's how he went to Def Jam. He was giving demos out you dumb ass faggot muthafucka. Who doesn't know hip hop?
I hate that people can't have discussions on the board, because there's always one immature dumb ass saying stupid shit.
LL was doing demos
So now, demos are mixtapes?
That's how he went to Def Jam. He was giving demos out you dumb ass faggot muthafucka. Who doesn't know hip hop?
I hate that people can't have discussions on the board, because there's always one immature dumb ass saying stupid shit.
Lmaoooooooo
Big demo was a mixtape huh
Big demo was a mixtape huh
They aren't putting out demos
Demos were meant for record execs in an effort to secure a deal.
Mixtapes are meant for the public, either trying to sell them, gain publicity or tour off them
Gucci puts a mixtape out, and goes and tours off it for a few months.
They aren't putting out demos
Demos were meant for record execs in an effort to secure a deal.
Mixtapes are meant for the public, either trying to sell them, gain publicity or tour off them
Gucci puts a mixtape out, and goes and tours off it for a few months.
Yet you call them mixtapes
Most artist putting out "mixtapes" are putting them out to secure a deal and therefore put out demonstration of their art. Now even if they aren't doing it for a deal. They are still demonstrating to the streets their art. In hopes of getting paid through the indie route. Mixtape are shit that DJ's put together.
Silly,how you have different generations of clearly hiphopper's arguing over who did what when.A dub tape,a mixtape and a modern day free mp3 album are all pretty much the same whether it's sold for $10.00 dollars or given away by some short cat with a fucked up grill talking some pimp shit,some dudes in the backwoods of klu klux klan county who just want to be heard in their neck of the woods or some flamboyant city slickers who are dressed to impress(or shock) with a phonetical flow for days for free.
If your from NYC and of a certain age of course your definition of what a mixtape is will be totally different from everyone else's.If you were born in the 1980's or later,shut the fuck up,pop in your DJ clue or dipset mixatape and relax cause you don't know.
Now for Puffy & Biggie;Biggie sold his publishing for cheat to Puffy but he didn't know any better like a lot of the hitmen that worked for badboy back in the days.You offer them cash up front and they sign away,everything.Arist and whoever is their parent company is has Badboy's Masters and I know someone will say"He can afford to buy his Masters..."No isn't and their not giving them up.
Steve Stout isn't no Chris Lighty,I think he's had some luck here and there but just think if he was able to get people millions of dollars like he claims he would work with a lot more people but he's Nas's guy maybe because it works who knows.I've read his book and he's right about the tanning of America it didn't for him to write or say it,everyone's informed of it every since groups like The Beastie Boys,P.E and NWA.
If your from NYC and of a certain age of course your definition of what a mixtape is will be totally different from everyone else's.If you were born in the 1980's or later,shut the fuck up,pop in your DJ clue or dipset mixatape and relax cause you don't know.
Now for Puffy & Biggie;Biggie sold his publishing for cheat to Puffy but he didn't know any better like a lot of the hitmen that worked for badboy back in the days.You offer them cash up front and they sign away,everything.Arist and whoever is their parent company is has Badboy's Masters and I know someone will say"He can afford to buy his Masters..."No isn't and their not giving them up.
Steve Stout isn't no Chris Lighty,I think he's had some luck here and there but just think if he was able to get people millions of dollars like he claims he would work with a lot more people but he's Nas's guy maybe because it works who knows.I've read his book and he's right about the tanning of America it didn't for him to write or say it,everyone's informed of it every since groups like The Beastie Boys,P.E and NWA.
Yet you call them mixtapes
Most artist putting out "mixtapes" are putting them out to secure a deal and therefore put out demonstration of their art. Now even if they aren't doing it for a deal. They are still demonstrating to the streets their art. In hopes of getting paid through the indie route. Mixtape are shit that DJ's put together.
That's incorrect IMO. Mixtapes are done to make money in 2014. Not to secure deals. For instance look at Frank Ocean. Frank Ocean was signed to Def Jam but they didn't know what to do with him. He dropped his mixtape and started touring off it and getting radio play ALREADY signed. That's not a "demo" that these dudes trying to say it is.
Gucci Mane doesn't drop mix tapes to secure deals. Neither does Currensy or Big Krit. They drop shit to TOUR from it.
All this shit is MOOT though. Dipset started this shit whether anyone wants to admit it or not. I know they considered clowns or what not but them dudes started that shit.
Yet you call them mixtapes
Most artist putting out "mixtapes" are putting them out to secure a deal and therefore put out demonstration of their art. Now even if they aren't doing it for a deal. They are still demonstrating to the streets their art. In hopes of getting paid through the indie route. Mixtape are shit that DJ's put together.
A lot of people do have DJ's hosting them.
How many people are getting deals off mixtapes? J Cole? Drake?
The main people putting out mixtapes are actual signed artist trying to create momentum and keeping their name out their.
Which was my point about the modern mixtape and Dip Set. There have been chapters to the mixtape lifespan...and not this just one iteration some make it out to be.
Shit also changed with mixtapes when Drama got arrested.
I'm glad the Feds got that faggit drama
He ruined the mixtape game
He ruined the mixtape game
Here's the problem. You have folks putting "mixtape" out to secure a deal and those doing what you describe. Yet they are both mistakenly labled mixtapes.
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Well yeah I guess you can say they are mistakenly being labeled but that's their label lol. Part of it is that the music isn't sampled cleared music so its hard to call it a album. What else can you call it? Gangsta Grillz are mix tapes......being hosted by a DJ. I guess they could've given them a different term but that's essentially what they are.
Because the mixtape isn't one thing
But a demo is a demo. That wasn't meant for the public.
Which is why I mentioned the modern mixtape and giving credit to Dip Set, because them and 50 changed the face of the modern mixtape.
You have those trying to get a deal off mixtapes, 50
And those trying to build a movement and increase their exposure off a mixtape, Diplomats
What are you considering Fif's first mixtape? Because that Dipset Vol. 1 dropped before Guess Who's Back...but even then Guess Who's Back wasn't new beats. They were rapping over beats we've already heard. That's what I think people are saying in here. Dipset were the first ones to have original production on their mix tapes.
nah I'm saying song formats so recording over existing songs doing their version. The first Dipset mixtapes was both but more original songs. But the songs they remix sounded more like a freestyle than a actually song. I think complex said that too. Dipset mixtape came out in June I don't know when the guint tape came out tho. So I can't say for sure who was first.
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Have you completed your assignment yet?
Shut your dumb ass up.........demos and mix-tapes serve the same purpose. Mix-tapes = the evolution of early demos. The objective is the same, exposure/marketing/promotions etc
Wasn't "demos" being sold by most of the artist who made them?You're an idiot like I said
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Shut your dumb ass up.........demos and mix-tapes serve the same purpose. Mix-tapes = the evolution of early demos. The objective is the same, exposure/marketing/promotions etc
You're an idiot like I said
Demos were given out to record execs fuck boy.
What demo have you bought
Have you heard Big's demo?
What about LL's demo?
Can I find Jay's demo online?
You're that special kind of retard
lol I like how y'all derailed my hatred run for 50 with this dumbass "what came first, the mixtape or the demo?" argument.
fuck y'all, I'm takin my ball and going home.
fuck y'all, I'm takin my ball and going home.
Demos were given out to record execs fuck boy.
What demo have you bought
Have you heard Big's demo?
What about LL's demo?
Can I find Jay's demo online?
You're that special kind of retard
Reading is different from comprehension
You're dumber with every comment you make. Go back and read my comments again and stop being an over emotional cunt.
Anything made on tape by the early hip-hop artists were made with (get this) ---> the INTENT
for someone to listing to Be it cats from the local neighborhood, an exe or radio audience. The objective was to promote/market and gain more exposure
The mix-tapes are the evolution of demos.
Do artists make their own "demos"/tapes just for their ears only?
You're not complex, you're just stupid....
Reading is different from comprehension
You're dumber with every comment you make. Go back and read my comments again and stop being an over emotional cunt.
Anything made on tape by the early hip-hop artists were made with (get this) ---> the INTENT
Be it cats from the local neighborhood, an exe or radio audience. The objective was to promote/market and gain more exposure
The mix-tapes are the evolution of demos.
Do artists make their own "demos"/tapes just for their ears only?
You're not complex, you're just stupid....
So now the mixtape is the evolution of the demo
Before it was the demo and LL was handing out mixtapes to Rick Rubin
Just stop, Blunt
50 started....Dipset was just rapping over others peoples beats which had been done before. 50 took others peoples songs and reformatted them, and made new songs. 50 mixtape hit like in the winter.
So...lemme get this straight. A list of dudes of who go a major deal because of their mixtape can be produced, but guys aren't trying to get deals from mixtapes...they're trying to make money & tour
Why the fuck do all these niggas sign to the majors if they're not using their mixtapes as demos? The "mixtape" is used as a demo in today's music. The game has changed today cause you need a following, quality music, internet presence, etc...you need all those before the majors will fuck with you cause they're too lazy to develop artists. Artists are smart enough to realize they can get paid in the process of trying to get signed by a label. BKF's point is still true.
Why the fuck do all these niggas sign to the majors if they're not using their mixtapes as demos? The "mixtape" is used as a demo in today's music. The game has changed today cause you need a following, quality music, internet presence, etc...you need all those before the majors will fuck with you cause they're too lazy to develop artists. Artists are smart enough to realize they can get paid in the process of trying to get signed by a label. BKF's point is still true.
Please nigga
Dipset had dj sniff kayslay clue hostin they mixtapes
They was the hotness
So...lemme get this straight. A list of dudes of who go a major deal because of their mixtape can be produced, but guys aren't trying to get deals from mixtapes...they're trying to make money & tour
Why the fuck do all these niggas sign to the majors if they're not using their mixtapes as demos? The "mixtape" is used as a demo in today's music. The game has changed today cause you need a following, quality music, internet presence, etc...you need all those before the majors will fuck with you cause they're too lazy to develop artists. Artists are smart enough to realize they can get paid in the process of trying to get signed by a label. BKF's point is still true.
This is true.
They will use mixtapes to get more fans and get money. But the end goal is always signing on a major label.
first cam was like" New Yawk most stop biting and start writing/strat mountin/when the hell we start bouncing" 2 years later he was on his souf shit hard
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