PURE ignorance
4K TV's Are A Waste Of Money
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PURE ignorance
I thought directv already does 1080p for their NFL package games. I could be wrong. I know they recently did some MLB games in 4K
Man it got to the point that every time I went to Best Buy with my girl she had to pry me away from the tv section asking why I keep torturing myself. I was and still am addicted to them screens.
Best Buy
Before buying any electronics from Best Buy you need to know how to negotiate in their store. Here are some insider tips to make it happen and help you save some money:
- Listen to the salesperson. Best Buy is notorious for carrying certain brands that offer bigger margins, especially on TVs. If the salesperson is pushing you towards a specific brand once you have tried to negotiate a better price, it is probably because that brand has larger margins, thus giving them more room to negotiate a deal with you.
- Bundle items and start negotiating. A few years ago I discovered this trick. I was buying a new Panasonic 42″ HDTV and DVD player and decided (on a whim) to ask the salesman if he could knock off $100 if I bought both right now. He went and asked his manager and within a minute he came back and said they could reduce the overall price by $75. I was like, "Cool, done deal!" A very easy $75 left in my wallet.
- The more expensive the item, the better your chance to negotiate. A 32″ or 42″ TV at Best Buy typically has a much smaller profit margin than a 65″ or 75″ TV, regardless of the brand. So you have a much better chance of negotiating a deal on a larger, more expensive, TV or laptop computer.
- Look for damaged packaging. I recently needed a new DSL router and headed off to our local Best Buy. The NetGear router that I wanted was indeed in-stock, but they only had one left on the shelf. I picked up the box with the router in it and one corner was completely smashed in. I immediately knew I had some great price negotiating ammunition. I walked up to a nearby sales associate and explained the situation. I told him, "I realize the router inside is probably OK, but I am taking a bit of a risk taking this thing home. Any chance you can knock off 25% and I'll take this trashed box off your hands?" He says he has to get a manager's approval and within a minute he comes back and says he can give me 15% off. Easiest $20 I ever made.
- Try to negotiate at the end of the month. Sales floor managers are trying to hit sales goals at the end of the month and are much more willing to wheel and deal with you. I'm talking about the last two days of the month, like the 30th or 31st.
- Open box products offer great opportunity to negotiate. This is especially true with floor model TV's and laptops. Every time I step into a Best Buy, I can find several floor model that are marked down for a quick sale. But guess what? They don't always sell quickly. So whenever you see a floor model for sale, consider it an opportunity to negotiate an even lower price. As a general rule of thumb, start at 25% and let them meet you somewhere in the middle.
- Price match like crazy! The price match policy at Best Buy can be incredibly useful. Best Buy will match the lower price of both a local competitor or a major online retailer like Amazon. It doesn't matter how small the local competitor is, they will match the price. Always pull out your smartphone when shopping at Best Buy (I like the RedLaser app) and see if you can find the price lower in your town or online. If you do, use the lower price as a negotiating tool, and the employee may even beat the competitor's price if you sweet talk them and are polite.
Also, read this: https://consumerist.com/2008/11/03/...eaky-tricks-to-sell-hdtv-calibration-service/
I'm on PS4 now. Say the word and we'll see what's up!!
like last time lol? ironically my PS4 name is VAiz4husslaz...anytime tho
I still want that Samsung Curved.
I'll try to add you as a 'friend' and once again teach you that you scared...not afraid to lose...don't know why you are
This statement is bullshit. There is no TV made, not even
a 4k one, that is as clear as real life. The notion that 4k
is superfluous is therefore wrong. The problem with 4K is,
and will be, the lack of 4k content. As it is, we barely have
1080 content. Almost all broadcast TV is 1080i, which
at half the resolution of 1080p is half the bandwidth as
well. I have been informed that the reason 1080 is used is
to economise on transmission capacity. I think it to be
avarice, since as a person who was there, actively
helping to design, and implement that backbone systems
on which American communications is based, I know
this assertion to be false. There is, and may always be,
excess fiber capacity in the US, and the reasons have to
do with the scalability of fiber transport. You can increase
the capacity of a fiber by simply increasing number of
wavelengths propagated in it. At the same time, you can
also increase it by increasing the baudrate. At the time
when the standard baudrate was 9.6G/s, the usage was
at 3% of channel capacity, and they were actively working
to double it to 19.2G/s, and to increase the channel capacity
from 8x8 bidirectional wave lengths to 16x16
a 4k one, that is as clear as real life. The notion that 4k
is superfluous is therefore wrong. The problem with 4K is,
and will be, the lack of 4k content. As it is, we barely have
1080 content. Almost all broadcast TV is 1080i, which
at half the resolution of 1080p is half the bandwidth as
well. I have been informed that the reason 1080 is used is
to economise on transmission capacity. I think it to be
avarice, since as a person who was there, actively
helping to design, and implement that backbone systems
on which American communications is based, I know
this assertion to be false. There is, and may always be,
excess fiber capacity in the US, and the reasons have to
do with the scalability of fiber transport. You can increase
the capacity of a fiber by simply increasing number of
wavelengths propagated in it. At the same time, you can
also increase it by increasing the baudrate. At the time
when the standard baudrate was 9.6G/s, the usage was
at 3% of channel capacity, and they were actively working
to double it to 19.2G/s, and to increase the channel capacity
from 8x8 bidirectional wave lengths to 16x16
Yep. Still no 1080p. 4K football might not ever happen.
720p is actually better than 1080i for sports
Lack of content is a big deal for all this new tech..but TVs gotta be sold so the hardware will continue to outperform the content
The massive leap forward that was high definition won't be repeated anytime soon by TVs...I expect VR to do that
I have the same T.V. Yeah he one some B.S.
This the TV I picked up two months ago. Picture pops and it didn't break the bank.
http://www.hhgregg.com/proscan-55-4k-ultra-hd-tv/item/PLDED5515A
http://www.hhgregg.com/proscan-55-4k-ultra-hd-tv/item/PLDED5515A
If it's no 4K signal going to it, it is useless....
you can rarely tell the difference at a big box store because they all receive the same watered down feed from being split up among dozens of tv's
what i do is take a high speed usb 3.0 flash drive with 4k video on it and play it on both that's how you tell the difference and quality of a pic
the writer of this article and anyone that agrees
"I know they make them motorized conveyances, but Bessie and Betty here been doin fine and Ima stick with 'em"
"I know they make them motorized conveyances, but Bessie and Betty here been doin fine and Ima stick with 'em"
Shoot I know I saw a difference
I actually agree with this shit. It also doesnt help convince me of shit when you walk into the store and the tvs are clearly maked. Mental pursuasion is a son of a bitch. Put 5 unmarked TVs next to each other with 2 being 4k and the other 1080 and I defy anyone to pick the 4k ones out. FOH!
And where does any of that speak to your point about "BestBuy manipulates its displays to coerce you into buying the 4Ks"? I don't doubt that there were shady calibration demos in certain stores 8+ years ago. Most likely because they weren't educated enough to sell & explain calibration using a properly calibrated TV. Best Buy isn't the place to get a thorough calibration anyway.
I worked for several years at Best Buy mostly selling TVs; I also spent a couple years going around to various stores and putting TVs on display (usually called the 'Project team' or 'Plano team').
Just about all of the TVs come set in 'showroom mode', which is a setting most companies (particularly Samsung) build into the TV to reset color/brightness/etc to the max every 30 mins. As for signal quality, the majority of the TVs, like the ones hanging on the wall, are running on a 720p antenna feed or 1080i BB marketing demo.
The other TVs are in designated spaces on the floor running a 4K disc/demo put together by the manufacturer. The truth is Samsung, LG, Sony, etc. pay for this floor space to show off their flagship model's capabilities which is why their sales reps throw a fit if their demo isn't running.
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I'm sure there are those aficionados who will be able to see the difference. Whereas the average mutherfucker most likely won't.I actually agree with this shit. It also doesnt help convince me of shit when you walk into the store and the tvs are clearly maked. Mental pursuasion is a son of a bitch. Put 5 unmarked TVs next to each other with 2 being 4k and the other 1080 and I defy anyone to pick the 4k ones out. FOH!
...and 99.9% of the Dudes posting here talking shit are average motherfuckers!
I'd venture to say most posters in this thread have 4k televisions, are running true 4k content, and know they see a huge difference. Anyone who claims they can't see a difference must be running around like...
Right..... Right.... OkI'd venture to say most posters in this thread have 4k televisions, are running true 4k content, and know they see a huge difference. Anyone who claims they can't see a difference must be running around like...
Fuck what you heard. Took this with my Galaxy 6s. It's from the new Pee Week Netflix film. You can see the pores on the Aliens face. Imagine how this looks on the screen with your own eyes. 4K is the shit.
U plainly have image processing on. "The soap opera effect."
No. No image processing. That's Netflix ULTRA HD on a 4K UHDTV.
Here's what it is, what it does, and how to turn it off. The Soap Opera Effect, or SOE, is actually a feature of many modern televisions. It's called "motion smoothing," "motion interpolation," or "ME/MC" for motion estimation/motion compensation. Some people don't notice it, some don't mind it, and a few even like it.
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect/
http://www.cnet.com/news/what-is-the-soap-opera-effect/
The shit comes on by default on most modern TVs. U might not even know it's on.
And if it is on or not, what's the point. The picture I see when I watch 4k content on my 55 inch 4K TV vs my Panasonic Viera 1080p Plasma is noticeable as fuck.
Not near my TV but will check it when I get a chance to see if image processing is on. Regardless the images on 4K content blows away 1080p.
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