48÷2(9+3) = ????
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OK Nate don't do it.
You don't have to answer. Just please don't jump!
You can have your mingle rights back.
even i was offended by that shit...hot damn
i didn't look at all of the examples but i know that the first one definitely had a '+' sign in the midst of the equation what I have been saying all along should constitue a 'reset' as much as i was led to believe.
solve this?
48^1 / 2^1(9+3)^1
follow the order of operations. Parentheses? well okay let's do parentheses first because TECHNICALLY you multiply the parentheses first. but it doesn't DO ANYTHING to the problem. it literally MEANS keep this the same. you basically have entered a null value that is always there in the 'real' world of mathematics, so what?
48^1 / 2^1(9+3)
okay we KNOW we can shortcut the order of operations alr
eady because you have entered null values but let's continue and do the next value okay well order of operations says pedmas well... the term outside of the (9+3) value is 2^1 . 2^1 is equal to 2. giving me 2(9+3) under the divding sign.
48^1 / 2(9+3)
the bottom value is then multiplied by distribution. pemdas MULTIPLICATION GET'S PRECENDENCE DAR DAR!!!! you can't combine the two terms until you multiply the 2 through the equation. so what you can combine like terms 9 and 3? if you CAN multiply first then you HAVE TO MULTIPLY FIRST because multiplication supercedes addition in all cases where they converge!
48^1/(18+6)
parentheses get's precendence and the simplification is 24. pemdas
48^1/(24)
the TERM on the other side of the divding sign is 48^1 unto itself SEPERATE of all things dealing with this equation so it must be simplified before it can be addressed in the equation because it is TIED to the exponent ^1.
48/24....
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I think the "logical ones" or really just the people that agree with you have decided to distance themselves away from your black ass who:
Can't see the connection between the OP original problem and related examples, even when the support your argument, let a alone the ones that don't.
Takes it upon yourself to hunt down a video clip of a person performing the order of operations correctly in an example that truly has no relation ship to the original problem or related examples. Proving your lack of understanding of the actual debate between the 2 and the 288.
And you refused to address questions that could possibly vindicate you from your ignorance.
The actual debate has been over for a while many of us who were on one side or the other have decided to admit that the way the problem is written, there is room for different interpretations.
What's been happening for the last several hours is folks discovering that you, one of the main contributers to this debate is a total dumb ass who had no business in the discussion from the jump.
This will be over when you stop posting and displaying your ignorance. I won't stop nigga, I won't.
So lets try this again EVEN THOUGH I KNOW YOU WON'T ANSWER IT
But Ima try to make it painful as fuck for you to keep glossing over!
1) CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE EXAMPLES POSTED BY tre2k4 ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM?
2) CAN YOU PROVIDE ANY UPDATE ON THE HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THAT NOBODY GAVE YOU?
3) WHAT THE FUCK DOES THE VIDEO HAVE TO DO WITH THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM?
4)
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I won't stop nigga, I won't!
i didn't look at all of the examples but i know that the first one definitely had a '+' sign in the midst of the equation what I have been saying all along should constitue a 'reset' as much as i was led to believe.
solve this?
48^1 / 2^1(9+3)^1
follow the order of operations. Parentheses? well okay let's do parentheses first because TECHNICALLY you multiply the parentheses first. but it doesn't DO ANYTHING to the problem. it literally MEANS keep this the same. you basically have entered a null value that is always there in the 'real' world of mathematics, so what?
48^1 / 2^1(9+3)
okay we KNOW we can shortcut the order of operations alr
eady because you have entered null values but let's continue and do the next value okay well order of operations says pedmas well... the term outside of the (9+3) value is 2^1 . 2^1 is equal to 2. giving me 2(9+3) under the divding sign.
48^1 / 2(9+3)
the bottom value is then multiplied by distribution. pemdas MULTIPLICATION GET'S PRECENDENCE DAR DAR!!!! you can't combine the two terms until you multiply the 2 through the equation. so what you can combine like terms 9 and 3? you HAVE TO MULTIPLY FIRST!
48^1/(18+6)
parentheses get's precendence and the simplification is 24. pemdas
48^1/(24)
the TERM on the other side of the divding sign is 48^1 unto itself SEPERATE of all things dealing with this equation so it must be simplified before it can be addressed in the equation because it is TIED to the exponent ^1.
48/24....
"CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW THE EXAMPLES POSTED BY tre2k4 ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE ORIGINAL PROBLEM?"
This is not the answer to the question posted by tre2k4. Your reading comprehension is off. Take another look.
no if you look closely it is the "ambiguity" of the ORIGINAL PROBLEM debunked.
answer is TWO by ORDER OF OPERATIONS! you cannot add 9 and 3 before you multiiply.
stop cheating math! lol... shortcuts cost you everytime.
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no if you look closely it is the "ambiguity" of the ORIGINAL PROBLEM debunked.
answer is TWO by ORDER OF OPERATIONS! you cannot add 9 and 3 before you multiiply.
stop cheating math! lol... shortcuts cost you everytime.
Keep in mind that you are doing this to yourself.
I always knew there were a shit load of idiots on BGOL.
This isn't even calculus
Over 40 pages to find out schools are failing young black kids
This isn't even calculus
Nope. It means 42 ÷ 24.. You missed a few classes in 3rd Grade fella.
Over 40 pages to find out schools are failing young black kids
OK Nate don't do it.
You don't have to answer. Just please don't jump!
You can have your mingle rights back.
I hope some of you aren't helping your kids do homework
Little Maya telling the teacher, but daddy helped me do it.
Teacher just
how are ya'll adding 9 and 3 before you multiply though?
if the parentheses tell you to multiply whatever they touch and we know parentheses get priority then why are you denying that that is the step that would come first? multiply through THEN add those two terms thus ELIMINATING THE PARENTHESES.
when else do you ADD BUT KEEP THE ADDITION SIGN HANGING AROUND? you have to eliminate all cases of parentheses from the equation first and that means starting over P.E.M.D.A.S. for each case of parentheses until they are all eliminated.
no ambiguity about these points....
Parentheses
Exponent
Multiplication
Division
Addition
Subtraction
when did 2(2+x) stop being 2x+2 ?
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oh shit my bad i was thinking of squaring that equation for a minute. i almost added an x squared term too
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Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally
right... just direct them to the post above this one desire
how are ya'll adding 9 and 3 before you multiply though?
if the parentheses tell you to multiply whatever they touch and we know parentheses get priority then why are you denying that that is the step that would come first? multiply through THEN add those two terms thus ELIMINATING THE PARENTHESES.
when else do you ADD BUT KEEP THE ADDITION SIGN HANGING AROUND? you have to eliminate all cases of parentheses from the equation first and that means starting over P.E.M.D.A.S. for each case of parentheses until they are all eliminated.
no ambiguity about these points....
Parentheses
Exponent
Multiplication
Division
Addition
Subtraction
when did 2(2+x) stop being 4x+4 ?
Official time was 04-10-2011, 08:57 PM, according to the World Atomic Clock in England.
Ima do my part though and donate 50 dollars to the HelpaNiggaLearn Foundation.
Official time was 04-10-2011, 08:57 PM, according to the World Atomic Clock in England.
Ima do my part though and donate 50 dollars to the HelpaNiggaLearn Foundation.
eh, honest mistake doesn't invalidate my point.
whenever you are given a choice between multiplication and addition you multiply smart ass. just because you know 9 and 3 make 12 doesn't mean you can add them because you can ALSO mutliply a 2 through the equation. so now what do excuse do you have for multiplying 24 times 12?
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as i said before MOST calculators do not perform order of operations correctly
a problem written like this
48/2(12) is different from 48/2(9+3) and that is the problem or the misunderstanding you are having. where one is ambiguous and the other is not. you are not following order of operations as we have been saying all along
as i said before MOST calculators do not perform order of operations correctly
a problem written like this
48/2(12) is different from 48/2(9+3) and that is the problem or the misunderstanding you are having. where one is ambiguous and the other is not. you are not following order of operations as we have been saying all along
no if you look closely it is the "ambiguity" of the ORIGINAL PROBLEM debunked.
answer is TWO by ORDER OF OPERATIONS! you cannot add 9 and 3 before you multiiply.
stop cheating math! lol... shortcuts cost you everytime.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
We've gone through 40+ pages explaining this. That's what the "P" in PEMDAS means. You do what's inside the parentheses first. Then you multiply whatever is left with the 2.
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
just think about it dude ORDER OF OPERATIONS. follow the STEPS! so you're telling me that you CAN'T multiply the 2 through that equation (9+3)? if you can you must first. sure i can shortcut and add 9 and 3 and get 12 then multiply by 2 as in this case
2(9+3)=..................2(9+3)=
18+6=....................2(12)=
24............................24
but you are not following the order of operations to do it the second way becuase if are following POSSIBLE steps you must MULTIPLY first. like i said. you're cheating.
ARE YOU SERIOUS?!
just think about it dude
ORDER OF OPERATIONS. follow the STEPS! so you're telling me that you CAN'T multiply the 2 through that equation (9+3)? if you can you must first. sure i can shortcut and add 9 and 3 and get 12 then multiply by 2 as in this case2(9+3)=..................2(9+3)=
18+6=....................2(12)=
24............................24
but you are not following the order of operations to do it the second way becuase if are following POSSIBLE steps you must MULTIPLY first. like i said. you're cheating.
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
Man go to bed.
just think about it dude
2(9+3)=..................2(9+3)=
18+6=....................2(12)=
24............................24
but you are not following the order of operations to do it the second way becuase if are following POSSIBLE steps you must MULTIPLY first. like i said. you're cheating.
Man go to bed.
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
48 ÷ 2(9+3)
You complete the work within the parentheses, or group.
(9+3) = (12)
Now that the group is complete, look at the equation.
48 ÷ 2(12)
The confusion for people is coming from them thinking that the 2(12) is still a part of the parentheses in PEMDAS, but the reality is the group is complete and it's simple multiplication.
According to PEMDAS (which once again is Parentheses [it's about completing the group, NOT eliminating the parentheses itself], Exponents, Multiplication and Division [or Division and Multiplication] and Addition and Subtraction [or Subtraction and Addition]) once you simplify the group the parentheses remains but only as a function of indicating that there is multiplication to be done.
Now that you have done that you only have two steps. Division and multiplication, which are of equal precedence. Being of equal precedence you MUST work right to left, solving the equation.
48 ÷ 2(12)
24(12).
What people are getting wrong is including the 2 in the GROUP. But if it were a part of the group, then it would have to be stated by using more brackets, or parentheses.
You can't, because in this instance it works like thisjust think about it dude
2(9+3)=..................2(9+3)=
18+6=....................2(12)=
24............................24
but you are not following the order of operations to do it the second way becuase if are following POSSIBLE steps you must MULTIPLY first. like i said. you're cheating.
48 ÷ 2(9+3)
You complete the work within the parentheses, or group.
(9+3) = (12)
Now that the group is complete, look at the equation.
48 ÷ 2(12)
The confusion for people is coming from them thinking that the 2(12) is still a part of the parentheses in PEMDAS, but the reality is the group is complete and it's simple multiplication.
According to PEMDAS (which once again is Parentheses [it's about completing the group, NOT eliminating the parentheses itself], Exponents, Multiplication and Division [or Division and Multiplication] and Addition and Subtraction [or Subtraction and Addition]) once you simplify the group the parentheses remains but only as a function of indicating that there is multiplication to be done.
Now that you have done that you only have two steps. Division and multiplication, which are of equal precedence. Being of equal precedence you MUST work right to left, solving the equation.
48 ÷ 2(12)
24(12).
What people are getting wrong is including the 2 in the GROUP. But if it were a part of the group, then it would have to be stated by using more brackets, or parentheses.
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
Word... peeps can't read. Rule #1 reads:
"Parentheses or any other grouping symbol that encloses operations"
Basically do everything inside the parentheses.
en·close
[en-klohz]
–verb (used with object), -closed, -clos·ing. 1. to shut or hem in; close in on all sides: a valley enclosed by tall mountains.
2. to surround, as with a fence or wall: to enclose land.
3. to insert in the same envelope, package, or the like: He enclosed a check. A book was sent with the bill enclosed.
4. to hold or contain: His letter enclosed a check.
Man go to bed.
Word... peeps can't read. Rule #1 reads:
"Parentheses or any other grouping symbol that encloses operations"
Basically do everything inside the parentheses.
en·close
[en-klohz]
–verb (used with object), -closed, -clos·ing. 1. to shut or hem in; close in on all sides: a valley enclosed by tall mountains.
2. to surround, as with a fence or wall: to enclose land.
3. to insert in the same envelope, package, or the like: He enclosed a check. A book was sent with the bill enclosed.
4. to hold or contain: His letter enclosed a check.
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
if you're gonna tell me you don't see the plus sign between those two parts and then tell me you don't understand why it's phrased that way 'Divide, then multiply' when written out... then i don't know if i can help you.
Man go to bed.
if you're gonna tell me you don't see the plus sign between those two parts and then tell me you don't understand why it's phrased that way 'Divide, then multiply' when written out... then i don't know if i can help you.
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
the fact that the parentheses ENCLOSE the operation has nothing to do with your extrapolated presumtion that it only acts on numbers inwardly at the onset of solving the equation. i see your problem now. you're caught in a mental loop - a prison based on the shape of the symbol and how it's shape is described but you're ignoring it's mathematical potential which is to distribute through by multiplication. and if you have the choice of adding or multiplying what do you do first? parentheses actually mean if you want to get technical FOCUS HERE first. and it tells you which values to focus on by closing the loop.
the fact that the parentheses ENCLOSE the operation has nothing to do with your extrapolated presumtion that it only acts on numbers inwardly at the onset of solving the equation. i see your problem now. you're caught in a mental loop - a prison based on the shape of the symbol and how it's shape is described but you're ignoring it's mathematical potential which is to distribute through by multiplication. and if you have the choice of adding or multiplying what do you do first? parentheses actually mean if you want to get technical FOCUS HERE first. and it tells you which values to focus on by closing the loop.
because calculators cannot perform order of operations
No nigga no! Don't try to sneak no MOST in there now. I remember getting on you yesterday about this but I forgot who you were. I let that shit go, you should not have brought that shit up again bro.
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as i said before MOST calculators do not perform order of operations correctly
a problem written like this
48/2(12) is different from 48/2(9+3) and that is the problem or the misunderstanding you are having. where one is ambiguous and the other is not. you are not following order of operations as we have been saying all along
^^^^^^^Further Evidence.
eh, honest mistake doesn't invalidate my point.
whenever you are given a choice between multiplication and addition you multiply smart ass. just because you know 9 and 3 make 12 doesn't mean you can add them because you can ALSO mutliply a 2 through the equation. so now what do excuse do you have for multiplying 24 times 12?
At some point when you keep making "Honest Mistakes", it's more important for you to be "Honest" with yourself and admit that your are a dumb-ass just like Nate.
You are making him look smart. At least that nigga left.
No nigga no! Don't try to sneak no MOST in there now. I remember getting on you yesterday about this but I forgot who you were. I let that shit go, you should not have brought that shit up again bro.
^^^^^^^Further Evidence.
At some point when you keep making "Honest Mistakes", it's more important for you to be "Honest" with yourself and admit that your are a dumb-ass just like Nate.
You are making him look smart. At least that nigga left.
you're doing nothing to argue the point to the contrary just nit picking irrelevant points about some or all calculators performing orders of operation. googles does not is the bottom line and the only ones that have been shown to state that they expressly do perform them, Texas Instruments, yeild the answer of 2( in every model which possess the technology) when posed this problem as written. dumm ass nigga
Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally
Parentheses
Exponents
Multiplication
Divide
Addition
Subtraction
48/2(9+3) = 48/2(12) = 48/24 = 2
Re: 48÷2(9+3) = ????..................
And I see your problem now. You can't follow instructions. You're caught in a reading comprehension block.
How would u evaluate 2 + (9+3)?
2 + 12
14.
You always do what's inside the parentheses first.
And I see your problem now. You can't follow instructions. You're caught in a reading comprehension block.
How would u evaluate 2 + (9+3)?
2 + 12
14.
You always do what's inside the parentheses first.
you're doing nothing to argue the point to the contrary just nit picking irrelevant points about some or all calculators performing orders of operation. googles does not is the bottom line and the only ones that have been shown to state that they expressly do perform them, Texas Instruments, yeild the answer of 2( in every model which possess the technology) when posed this problem as written. dumm ass nigga
Bottom line is calculators do perform the order of operations. Not all. This is different from saying calculators don't perform the order of operations.
So why would a 25 dollar calculator, in your ignorant words, possess the technology, and my 160 dollar calculator not?
Your ignorant ass, does not even understand the fundamentals of the order of operations as you have proven by yourself above. "How can you add the 9 and 3 first when it's in the parenthesis?"
I have accepted that others see it another way and I accept their argument, even though I roll with 288.
You don't even seem to understand the logic behind those who get 2. You seem to be learning the order of operations right now. You have said some most ignorant things and asked the dumbest questions out of everyone in this thread.
They weren't honest mistakes, YOU are the honest mistake homes.
Why are you doing this???
http://web2.0calc.com/
go ahead and give it a try.
Like I continue to say, the fuckup that's occurring is that people are grouping the (9+3) with the 2 when there is nothing that indicates it is a group.
go ahead and give it a try.
Like I continue to say, the fuckup that's occurring is that people are grouping the (9+3) with the 2 when there is nothing that indicates it is a group.
I dont get why this thread is so long
the problem- 48/2(9+3)=
the solutions in question- 48/2(12) or 48/(18+6)
results- 48/24 or 48/24
Answer- 2
Regardless if u do it correct or not u'll still get the same answer..But technically you are suppose find the sum in the parentheses first..
the problem- 48/2(9+3)=
the solutions in question- 48/2(12) or 48/(18+6)
results- 48/24 or 48/24
Answer- 2
Regardless if u do it correct or not u'll still get the same answer..But technically you are suppose find the sum in the parentheses first..
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