400 a month for Child Support....

[ballscout1]

It doesn't matter if she is paying rent and buying food that's her job as a parent and responsible adult, but its called "CHILD SUPPORT" how is buying a 400 dollar bag benefiting the children? She should just take him for spousal support if she wants to purchase luxuries.

And what's his job ?

How do you know what 400 she spent?

She went a got a job so she isn't supposed to get anything for herself from her salary?

And that is why each and every state uses a set percentage of what the non custodial parents percentage of that support should be.

We cat like men by and large do the right thing when it comes to their children. In Illinois they just ran a story that there is 3 billion in back support owed and much of that money that the daddy doesn't pay the taxpayers do.

If his ass is making 85k his % is 18 in NYS and 21% in Illinois.

 

[The Jamaican]

I want to know how Denise feels.


Thats some bullshit offers he put on the table though.

If he knows that he is bitching up and begging her back, then he should show some humility. hes still strong arming her for real.

All in all, that's not a happy home. The best thing he can be is the best dad, and if he wont do it willingly, then he should be 'encouraged'.

If the chick aint shit.. cool. But dont let the kids grow up to be little shits too.

 

[inflewence]

she has a bad attitude and is not intelligent yet he has 2 kids with her and another on the way

Thats what I was looking at You smart enough to see all that and not be with the chick but not smart enough to not put seeds in her

 

[jasonblacc]

I dont know where you live that daycare is 400 month. 800+ out here.

 

[AgentCreed]

i agree with just saying on fucked up situations men should be somewhat covered.

I hear what you are saying, but it still doesn't fly. The first thing I learned about females is you never trust a chick. If a chick tells you she is on the pill, you still wear a condom. And after you are done, YOU take the used condoms in the bathroom and dispose of it YOURSELF.

See, you got dudes out there thinking that it aint going to happen to them and they start running up in chicks raw, and then act dumb founded when she is late at the end of the month. See, at that point the decision is no longer in your hands. You gave that power to the chick when you nutted in her. Now, I understand a condom can break, but that's part of the cost of the game.

If you dont want to give women the power to make decisions that directly effect you...either take precautions, stop nutting up in chicks, or stop fucking. Simple as that.

 

[Hellfish]

And what's his job ?

How do you know what 400 she spent?

She went a got a job so she isn't supposed to get anything for herself from her salary?

That's different, I'm referring to using Child Support money for personal gain. She can spend money on what ever she wants with the money that "she earns"

 

[ballscout1]

That's different, I'm referring to using Child Support money for personal gain. She can spend money on what ever she wants with the money that "she earns"

how can anyone tell what money goes where.


as long as the kids clothes aren't raggedy,they are fed, healthy, clean and groomed. then she is obviously not abusing support.

the problem is when you deal with hoodrat welfare queen type women that will fuck for a happy meal. They don't have income so will get their nails and hair did.

you know just like i know that a lot of cats ain't going to fight for custody, they would rather throw a couple dollars and have their freedom.

jasonblacc
Re: 400 a month for Child Support....
I dont know where you live that daycare is 400 month. 800+ out here.

You right about that..Unless you letting Shamika in the hood watch your kids.If you sending them to a daycare that feeds them and teaches ..a real preschool you talking minimum 300 per week here

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Is there a reason she hasn't gotten a court order on him? He's on some shit but she's stupid too.

 

[ballscout1]

Is there a reason she hasn't gotten a court order on him? He's on some shit but she's stupid too.

she's stupid too

 

[Olosi]

If she were really that evil, he would be paying through his ass. She's not the problem he is. She is not asking for much. He wants to "have his cake and eat it too." He's right about one thing, she is stupid. Stupid for being with him.

 

[gene cisco]

Why are these two ass clowns reproducing????????

 

[^SpiderMan^]

this story leaves out a lot and paints him as scum, does he cover the kids under his health plan? does he pay for clothing? are both kids in day care or only one? if one is in school private or public and does he contribute to that or pay it all?

also who he meets and what he does is really none of her concern or yours. long the kids r not in danger who cares? same rules apply to her so y not to him when it comes to people? she could be getting her back blown by the next door neighbor and he has no right to be mad so if he goes on a cruise and fucks a chick so what?

i find it hard to believe he's giving her 400 a month and sayin peace and not covering other ends. seems to me u and her are mad he isn't putting more physical money in her pocket so she can do what she wants and claim its for the child. so unless he isn't doing ANYTHING else for the kids he hasn't done a thing wrong but live his life and moved on.

PRETTY MUCH,but CLEARLY from his Email,he doesn't want much communication so instead of leaving anything subjective,she should seek a higher dollar amount OR the house.I HATE divorce laws and feel they reward the non working wife while penalizing the working man,but it just doesn't seem right for dude to be living in a 3 BR house solo while she is in a townhouse.If he wants the house,he should have custody of at least one of the kids.I can't stand dudes that don't take care of their kids.My current girl has a daughter from a previous relationship.Dude doesn't even attempt to communicate with their teenage daughter.When he daughter needs male advice she calls me.My girl is ridiculously nice and verbally agreed to $680 a month while taking care of the daughter 100% of the time(they live on opposite coasts) and she even sends the girl money the few days a year she goes to stay with him.I try and stay out of their business,but sometimes I want to tell her to take him to court and get more,especially since her expenses are getting higher.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

She should take her butt to court and get a separation agreement detailing what he has to do for the kids. She has to protect them.

Seems like she could rape him if she wanted to.She could get alimony and half of whatever he has and the big house. According to this she only wants the children well being.

He doesn't want to pay and if she is uneducated like he says then without a lawyer she will end up getting screwed.

He should do what is amicable while it is going good for him. He should do this before she starts talking to the sista girls who will encourage her to crush him.

Too late, the hypothetical sistas are already getting to her. I agree with you, like i said though, if he was a decent human being he'd be taking care of his kids. All of them. And sacrificing himself. But he's not. And so i believe she should slaughter him. But nooooooo she's still in love, and still wants the family, but it's obvious he's a piece of crap. And he's never going to do right.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

@ him still trying to strong arm shorty, it's like he said "we can do this divorce if you want, it don't matter to me *kanye shrug*" with a smug look on his face and then tears welled up in his eyes and he followed it with "but I'ma tell you like this.... I will NEVER forgive you! think about the kids girl, let's be a family... PLEASE?!"

what does Denise want though, is she finished with this cat or does she still want to be with him? If she's done she needs to just go ahead with the proceedings, fuck him and his "I want an explanation why"
"who are you? I don't owe you anything" should be her response.

I get miffed with unfair divorce rulings just as much as the next man, but I can't respect any male as a man if he's that emotional about the divorce that he isn't checking for his kids and threatening to let it affect his relationship with them... that's just hoe shit

She doesn't know what she wants yet. She wants him to be cool and be a decent man. But it's obvious he's not going to be. She's still clinging to hope or something. I think honestly she's just upset and doesn't want to pull the trigger.

I agree it is indeed "hoe shit".

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

This nigga clearly realizes that he is about to have to kick out $3200 a month for Child Support and has gone into "Cheaper to keep her" mode.

Notice how in that letter, instead of trying to convince her that he loves her and really wants to be with her, he basically puts on a guilt trip about the kids having to live with a divorce.

He was able to get off easy for a while and able do his single thing while not having to worry about really doing anything for his kids, and now that it's potentially ending with him losing close to 40k a year in only Child Support (not to mention Alimony), he is trying to strong arm her with the kids and retarded demands and deadlines.

A good question is how involved was this cat with his other kids when she met him...if he was anything like he is now, she is a dumb ass for marrying this cat.

In the end though people gonna do what they want and what they feel will make them happy...I got money on this chick giving this soft emotional nigga another chance...and be right back in the same boat in another 2 years.

He was a weekend dad with the other kids. But the thing of that is, to me he was really in love with the other babymoms.

And yeah i'm afraid that she'll take his ass back.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

slippery slope, some women get pregnant and don't tell the dude then hit him with lawsuits or they tell dude they are on the pill and dude does his part to prevent but shit happens and she decides to keep the kid without him knowing or his approval than it should be more on her than him.

now if he willingly nutted in her than by all means sue him and get everything u can but in cases of lies and bullshit nope, i don't agree. just as easily as a woman can have an abortion without a dude's say so he has a right to reject being burdened with overdone child support and should be able to give what the child needs not extra just to give the mother benefits.

granted the law favors women anyway but there should be child support reform but it won't happen.

Your scenario. How often does this happen? The scenario of the deadbeat dad. How often does that happen you think?

No it won't be child support reform because there's too many deadbeat dads out there to reform it. It protects the majority.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Use a damn Condom

There are exceptions (condoms aren't 100% and there are shady bitches out there that do shit like poke holes in them w/o telling you), but seriously, that is not the norm.

Niggas kill me with the "she told me she can't get pregnant"/"she said she was on the pill"/"I told her I don't want kids" bullshit and then proceed to nut in these bitches raw.

YOU just gave her all the damn power to make the decision by not taking any precautions. When it comes to sex, trust NOBODY and take your OWN precautions.

IMHO, if you nut in a bitch raw, regardless of the bullshit you believed out of her mouth, it's your own fault and you need to live with the consequences.

well well well...a guy on this board with some sense of responsibility about himself. Who'da thunk it.

 

[Lick]

Should have used a rubber now pay her!

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

this story leaves out a lot and paints him as scum, does he cover the kids under his health plan? No.does he pay for clothing? No.are both kids in day care or only one? Both.if one is in school private or public and does he contribute to that or pay it all?

also who he meets and what he does is really none of her concern or yours.This part comes into concern, is her concern because he's trying to get back WITH her. He wants to "reconcile". But while he's trying to "reconcile" with her he's off taking cruises with other women, while she's struggling for gas money and to buy diapers. long the kids r not in danger who cares? same rules apply to her so y not to him when it comes to people? she could be getting her back blown by the next door neighbor and he has no right to be mad so if he goes on a cruise and fucks a chick so what?

i find it hard to believe he's giving her 400 a month and sayin peace and not covering other ends. seems to me u and her are mad he isn't putting more physical money in her pocket so she can do what she wants and claim its for the child. so unless he isn't doing ANYTHING else for the kids he hasn't done a thing wrong but live his life and moved on.

Ok. Well hard as it is to believe. It's what's happening. if i didn't think males were scum to begin with, i would have found it hard to believe too. No...what i find hard to believe is that she actually considers, has moments of consideration of whether or not she should indeed take him "back."

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

It seems to me that he doesn't want to be with her and pay more for child support. If this is the case, then he needs to file for joint custody and everybody wins. More brothas have to learn and understand the law, before they get themselves into these situations...



Joint Custody



Parents who don't live together have joint custody (also called shared custody) when they share the decision-making responsibilities for, and/or physical control and custody of, their children. Joint custody can exist if the parents are divorced, separated, or no longer cohabiting, or even if they never lived together. Joint custody may be:

joint legal custody
joint physical custody (where the children spend a significant portion of time with each parent), or
joint legal and physical custody.
It is common for couples who share physical custody to also share legal custody, but not necessarily the other way around.

Joint Custody ArrangementsWhen parents share joint custody, usually they work out a schedule according to their work requirements and housing arrangements and the children's needs. If the parents cannot agree on a schedule, the court will impose an arrangement. A common pattern is for children to split weeks between each parent's house or apartment. Other joint physical custody arrangements include:

alternating months, years, or six-month periods, or
spending weekends and holidays with one parent, while spending weekdays with the other.
There is even a joint custody arrangement where the children remain in the family home and the parents take turns moving in and out, spending their out time in separate housing of their own. This is called "bird's nest custody."

Pros and Cons of Joint CustodyJoint custody has the advantages of assuring the children continuing contact and involvement with both parents. And it alleviates some of the burdens of parenting for each parent.

There are, of course, disadvantages:

Children must be shuttled around.
Parental noncooperation or ill will can have seriously negative effects on children.
Maintaining two homes for the children can be expensive.
If you do have a joint custody arrangement, maintain detailed and organized financial records of your expenses. Keep receipts for groceries, school and after-school activities, clothing, and medical care. At some point your ex may claim she or he has spent more money on the kids than you have, and a judge will appreciate your detailed records.




.................FINGER

I was wondering when someone would bring this up. He doesn't want the kids. She asked him if he did indeed want them full time. He said no, "they should be with their mother" Is what he said.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

And what's his job ?

How do you know what 400 she spent?

She went a got a job so she isn't supposed to get anything for herself from her salary?

And that is why each and every state uses a set percentage of what the non custodial parents percentage of that support should be.

We cat like men by and large do the right thing when it comes to their children. In Illinois they just ran a story that there is 3 billion in back support owed and much of that money that the daddy doesn't pay the taxpayers do.

If his ass is making 85k his % is 18 in NYS and 21% in Illinois.

I left out something, the 85k is from his own business. It's what he pays himself from his own business. He has a "job" job as well. So he's making quite a decent amount. If i remember right this hypothetical woman, said that he only pays himself that because he didn't want to pay more on the CS he owes his other BM.

 

[WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff]

Is there a reason she hasn't gotten a court order on him? He's on some shit but she's stupid too.

Mr. Upgrade................i just don't know. I have no idea why. She still loves him i reckon. She still clings to hope i guess that he'll do some kind of flip change. Stupid? Insipidly so.

 

[ANGRY MAN]

We as men have to stop complaining about what they do with the c/s money.Who cares the kid is still eating and has a roof over there head.It's not like she sacrifice food for a handbag,our job is to pay the shit and keep stepping.Next time thing about the monthly bill we spend on random chicks,clothes,car parts,strippers,happy hour and shoes.Most of the ones that complain don't have custody of there kid.Get custody and then you realize them little motherfuckers cost.