2015: The next recession has started

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-co...reemergence-of-gold-backed-currencies/5521107


I NEED CONFIRMATION ON THIS...CAN ANYONE GET ME CONFIRMATION ON THIS...I NEED THIS SHIT YESTERDAY!!!!!!

this is urgent bc this is the same thing that happened in England when one of the rich fat cats cornered the market for cheap after the battle with napoleon. So many people projecting may as the drop date but I need confirmation and I don't know anybody who has ties to Russia or china.....this is one of those times where you kinda wish you knew someone who knew what the fuck was going on and could ask...bc there is a lot of money going to be exchanging hands if this is true.
 
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-04-20/china-yuan-gold-fix-part-planned-shift-dollar-chinas-bocom
see the video at the bottom...but I need a secondary confirmation.....its like there is a media blackout on this stuff.
Confirmation of what? The shift from the dollar? Yes, this is happening. What do you think the set up of their platform to sell gold was which began on the 19th and the fact that they are only accepting payment in Yuan which is not yet int'l. This will happen by Oct. But I would not tell anyone to buy it up. Their plan may be to introduce a new currency and remove the old which is not asset backed.

THIS THREAD WAS STARTED IN 2015.

WHERE IS THIS APOCALYPTIC RECESSION AT?


:lol2::lol2::lol2:
The posts that I make or incline to are geared towards what is coming, they are planning to reset this system, not only here but globally. No exact date is known by anyone, but they have to remove the fiat dollar system and introduce the asset backed currency to about 168 countries who are already in agreement. There will be an adjustment period (if some want to call it a recession/depression) and the USD will fall out of being the main reserve currency. China, along with a few other Asian nations, are making chess moves and there is nothing stopping things, just things coming along the way falling into place to stop what has been going on for decades. The audio a few posts up explains a lot of what's coming for those who understand. It isn't conspiracy or tin foil hat, just facts...
 
Switzerland officially joins 'alternative World Bank'
Apr 25, 2016 - 15:32
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Chinese President Xi Jinping speaks during the AIIB's opening ceremony in January.

Switzerland has become the 37th founding member of the newly created Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank (AIIB). The Chinese-led body will bankroll transport links and other large scale projects in the region.

Switzerland has pledged to underwrite $706.4 million ($691 million) of the bank’s capital, which aims to reach $100 billion once all contributions are in. China got the ball rolling with $50 billion in starting capital.

Having completed all the paperwork, Switzerland will now release the first of five instalments, this one worth $28.26 million. In addition, Switzerland has proposed cabinet ministers Johann Schneider-Ammann and Didier Burkhalter as the country’s AIIB Governor and Acting-Governor respectively.

Switzerland will vote in a bloc alongside Denmark, Iceland, Norway, Poland, Sweden and Britain. The vote is currently represented by Britain on the Board of Directors, but Switzerland hinted it would seek to nominate a replacement later this year, “which would see it well placed to influence the ongoing institution building process.”

There are an estimated $2 trillion of unmet infrastructure needs in Asia. The AIIB has been dubbed a rival to the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF), which are dominated by the United States.

The creation of the AIIB has met with some criticism in the US for allowing China to gain a more dominant hand in the region. China had long complained at limits on its voting rights at the World Bank and IMF.

But Switzerland welcomed the move, saying in March of last year that it wanted to be “well positioned in the new institution from the outset.” Switzerland also sees membership of the AIIB as a means of cementing its political and business interests in the region.

swissinfo.ch
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/aiib-me...ially-joins--alternative-world-bank-/42111898
 
glad im not the only one preaching this except i didnt have this much info or do much looking into numbers and shit - just tryna stack ,my bread and maybe get a piece of the real estate market in nyc- jersey city area since its damn near to late now
 
Dollar Selling Panic Coming-John Williams
By Greg Hunter On April 27, 2016 In Market Analysis 65 Comments



By Greg Hunter’s USAWatchdog.com

Economist John Williams has long predicted the $16 trillion in U.S. dollar assets held outside of America will be sold in a panic. The time draws near for that scenario to unfold, and Williams explains, “When people start selling the dollar, or dollar denominated assets, you will see the value of the plunge. We have had a remarkable rally in the dollar since mid-2014, and it is up over 30%. It is going to be going down by more than that, and we are going to be headed to new lows. We have the waffling of the Fed and the beginnings of the perception that the economy is in serious trouble, which generally would be negative for the dollar. We have started to see selling pressure on the dollar. It has been inching lower. It’s down year to year now. . . . The selling is going to intensify, not only with large central banks, but with corporations that will be beginning to dump their Treasury holdings. . . . Nobody wants to be the last one out the door when you have a panic like this. It’s not a panic yet, but the potential certainly is there.”

Williams also says, “The dollar will blow up, and when I say blow up, it will collapse. There will be panic selling of the dollar, and that will intensify the inflation. The problem is they don’t have a way of avoiding it. If they could somehow get the economy back on track, they would have some room to work, I think, but the economy has never recovered. That’s being seen now in these revisions. At the end of this week, we are going to see bench mark revisions to retail sales. . . . So, you are going to see some downside revisions to the retail sales. You already have it with industrial production, and now you are going to have it with retail sales. We are very close to turning negative with the first quarter GDP . . . We are in a recession now, and they would be inclined to call it that once they get a contracting GDP, and everything else is beginning to show that. . . . You are going to see a formal recession declaration not too far down the road. It hasn’t happened yet, but it will.”

So, the Fed sold a grand lie since 2009 that there was a so-called recovery, and there was no real recovery? Williams says, “Effectively, yes. There was a little bit of a bounce up, but the other numbers show we never really had a recovery . . . They don’t want to come out with a negative forecast, but everybody knows it’s not recovering. . . . The economy is turning down rapidly. We have a new recession.”

Williams says it is not a matter of if, but when, there is panic dollar selling. Williams says the Fed would try to slow it down. Williams explains, “The Federal Reserve would step in and slow the pace to make it not appear like a panic. If you start to see a panic selloff (in the dollar), that’s a real bad sign. It means they are losing control of the system, and I think that is coming. The initial effect on the system for people living in the United States, as the dollar crashes, you will see inflation beginning to surge, particularly from oil and gasoline prices. Those effects will begin to spread in the system. It will change the way people look at things and will start the process that will eventually be a hyperinflation. The Fed does not have a way out of this circumstance. They have backed themselves into a corner. They have been keeping things reasonably stable, but they can’t get things going in the economy. . . . The economy is in terrible shape.”

Join Greg Hunter as he goes One-on-One with economist John Williams, the founder of ShadowStats.com.

http://usawatchdog.com/dollar-selling-panic-coming-john-williams/
 
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So, where are the economists on the board to give some guidance as to what could happen and/or what we should do prepare?
 
running scared. nobody knows the level bc its never been this bad. so I believe in covering the basics. esp food, water, shelter, security. The problem is trying to narrow down the time frame...by the time the media post it, the game will be over and shit will have already hit the fan. these corporations are preparing. that's why apple got money off shore to avoid the taxes and stack paper so they can buy stuff cheap. but the problem is that even if you stacking dollars, their value will be slow, bc of inflation, the return of reserve dollars, THE BUYING POWER OF THE DOLLAR will be a fraction of what it is....so instead of a gallon of gas costing 2.99, its going to be 7-9 dollars like in Europe.
I already dropped the basic preparation plan. Commodities on hand is the right move. think like this, if silver is 15 dollars a oz, now....and 10 years from now, its 80 dollars per oz. would it BENEFIT YOU TO BUY THE SILVER NOW OR STACK MONEY TO BUY THE SILVER LATER? same thing with buying property now..
 
So, where are the economists on the board to give some guidance as to what could happen and/or what we should do prepare?

it seems that this thread is not so much for answers as to what to do for the so-called doomsday recession that's coming, but to just put out as much info (real or make believe) to scare BGOLers and make them worry about PRETTY MUCH NOTHING.
 
My man, I don't just go off the internet. I read and study history. In my old job, I was an analyst and learned how to take data and interpret it into a usable tactical picture that would give my team directives and targets. Think im lying, go look up A N B, Analyst notebook....its wildly used tool that helps take pieces of data and put them together for interpretation and corroborative evaluation. ****The history of fiat currency world wide is that it will ultimately go to zero. no matter how hard you try to stave it off. kick the can down the road all you want, soon you run out of road. Chance favors the prepared mind...right. I hope that I am wrong but history says that I am right in betting against the dollar. even if it takes anther 10 years. I only hope it happens sooner than later while I can still do something about it.
There will always be wrong predictions, but ask yourself. if it does happen what will you do?

ALSO...ARGUE THIS POINT WITH ME ALL YOU WHO ARE SAYING WE ARE INSANE.

WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE DOLLAR IS NO LONGER THE WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY, WHEN OTHER COUNTRIES START DOING BUSINESS WITHOUT THE U.S. GREENBACK. ALL THE PRINTING IN THE WORLD WONT MEAN SHIT....Only 2 options, a war or economic depression/devastation.

SEE I KNOW THAT MOST OF YOU GUYS ARE HOPEFULS AND DONT WANT TO EVEN THINK ABOUT THE UGLY REALITY WHEN THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS PRINTED TRILLIONS IN PAPER MONEY, BACKED BY NOTHING...NOW HALF THE WORLD IS DIVESTING ITSELF FROM THE DOLLAR AND NO LONGER NEEDS IT TO DO BUSINESS.

ARGUE ME ON THIS...BUT BEFORE YOU DO. GO READ UP ON
1) THE ASIAN INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT BANK (AIIB)
2) THE BRICS COUNTRIES WHO THEY ARE AND WHAT THEY ARE DOING ECONOMICALLY
3) THE BANK OF INTERNATIONAL SETTLEMENTS
4) NOT GONNA MENTION THE IMF AND WORLD BANK, THEY LOW ON THE TOTEM POLE.
5) READ UP ON THE TTP AND FIND OUT WHY ITS SO SECRETIVE AND WHY IT LOCKS IN CORPORATE POWER.


IF you have never heard of or read any of the above items, we can not even begin to discuss global economics.

it is inevitable...we are fucking up fast and picking up speed.

MY GAME PLAN:
1. Get out of all debt. Right now, I only owe on my house. I paid off all debt that extra BS.
2. For self preservation, I started studying and acquiring basic homesteading skill sets, like how to start a fire, purify water, and this summer, I am taking a class on canning.
You need the 6 basic to survive: food clothing water shelter, security and communications. how you cover them is strictly up to you. most people call this prepping but back in the day it was called common damn
sense. the police are not coming to save you. you are responsible for you, your family.
3. BUY LAND...even if it is just a 1/4 acre lot. learn to grow food. I own some land in the country and put some fruit trees out there just for good measure. later im going to get some small animals but I gotta wait until I have
it fenced. but if that doesn't work, I am still going to breed rabbit...they are small cheap and provide protein in a pinch.....and yes if I need to, Scooby Doo is on menu. There is a guy in California that produces 500 pounds
of food a month off just that little lot.
4. money wise, I am trying to buy silver bc it sky rocket and still maintains value as a commercial and medical commodity.
5. THIS IS A KEY POINT = develop a team. relationships with people who are awake and have worthwhile skillsets. mechanics, doctors, nurses, engineers, welders, carpenters, farmers, military veterans and cops (yeah i
know but you need inside people too when you need info). i got all the above on my team all though my doctor is older, he still can show me how to patch up a wound if necessary. his knowledge my hands.... I am still
short on some real shooters on
the team. but got 4 all vets but I need at least 10. around the clock security is bitch if you never pulled that kind of duty.
6. Make sure you have an abundance of hand tools for any odd jobs or repairs when that cordless drill fail. wrenchs, screwdrivers, hammers, etc....I grew up working with hand tools, so no issues there.

***FORGOT ONE THING...Get your ass and your family international passports in case things get so hectic you got to leave the country. I got a family friends in south america and im eying to get a spot in middle america or the phillipeans.


this is all basic....take what knowledge you need and leave the rest.

Cotton mouth and Agnostic.....read my post and tell me where I am full of shit. Everything that I posted is already fact. as far as mixed goes, he and I see eye to eye for different reasons. My old professor used to tell me ...smart people sound like crazy people to dumb people. everything I post on $$$..is on the money. Read the creature from Jekyll island, do some research of everything I have listed then come back and tell me im full of shit. My purpose here is not to convince you but to put out information...DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH...

I was never rated as a top analyst bc I was full of shit. but when I get corroboration from totally independent sources, something tells me I am on the right track...

I guess I made up the panama papers, offshore accounts, the IMF, WORLD BANK, AIIB, BRICS, and THE FEDERAL RESERVE.

The death of the dollar is imminent..its not if but when it happens. My people perish for the lack of knowledge. all I ask is when the dollar dies, and a new currency is established, it will be the greatest wealth transfer in the history of mankind.....that's why wealthy people are buying real 'REAL" estate....hard assets and commodities...food and water, you will always need and Monsanto locking down the food and nestle trying to lock down the water.

everything is a joke to those who are uninformed. information is power...get you some. you don't have to believe me, do your own research. my people always catching the caboose when shit is going down....not this time player. im providing info to those who want to learn. I don't do all that crazy world ending nonsense. I LOOK STRICTLY AT FACT. HARD ANALYTICS...On the real, I have faced the harsh realities of life in a war zone (former military and contractor), in the streets (been homeless), and in watching decision makers purposely fuck shit up for their own benefit. Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. you can se for yourself how effed up this country is and yet you still saying that black people should not prepare for a possible disastrous scenario..yet we always the ones that suffer the most. IGNORANCE IS WHAT KILLS UP.....MY PEOPLE PERISH FOR THE LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. you don't know whats going on, who's doing it, how its being done, nor why but yet you laughing when the whole time the jokes on you.

Get serious brother about the shit that's going on....but again, I am not here to convince you. You the type of person that thinks all these Caucasians running around here talking about zombie killings are really preparing for the walking dead when actually you are the zombie that they are preparing to kill. go look up Z.E.R.T. zombie eradication response team and tell me that this doesn't look like they are preparing for something and all the while you are the zombie. zombie = ignorant, unprepared, desperate, needy person that will do anything to take what you have including your life to save their own bc they failed to prepare.

old school grasshopper and the ant. one prepared, one played....when winter came the grasshopper was shit out of luck. ...to quote a famous tv series... WINTER IS COMING!

BELIEVE WHAT YOU WILL. EDUCATION IS EXPENSIVE BUT IGNORANCE EVEN MORE SO....




something to consider. PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT IS SAID AT 21:45. Then post. Its evident that these cats are making moves and preparing. check my posts when I said to do your research on the IMF, world bank, bank of international settlements, special drawing rights, and NOW THE YUAN IS QUALIFYING FOR THE SPECIAL DRAWING RIGHTS BASKET OF CURRENCIES.....Damn if you aint watching supreme chess moves in the planning and making right before your eyes and don't even know what it means.

It will be damn near apocalyptic when the greatest transfer of wealth in human history happens. you can ride the wave or get crushed by it. Why do a lot of America's wealthiest corporatins have ridiculous amounts of cash n offshore accounts...to avoid taxes and to come I and scoop up the bargains when stuff happens. you need to be liquid, diversified, and ready. if you are blinded by the short game ..."watch things unfold over time" short sighted people cant play chess well bc they looking for the easy, quick solution and cant see the traps strategically set for them until its sprung.....most of my people are like this. that's why I even bother to drop knowledge from time to time on this site. the one good thing about my black people though is we are some resilient mofos and can/do survive in every hostile environment on the planet. but its going to take something like this to unite us and FORCE US TO AGAIN DO FOR OURSELVES BY OURSELVES.
 
Next up...."digital gold!" :eek2:





Digital Currency Backed by Gold?
Bitcoin, meet gold
Written by Geoffrey Pike
Posted April 25, 2016
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Now that the Federal Reserve is over 100 years old, more and more people are beginning to understand its function and how much damage it does to our economy.

While the Fed’s stated dual mandate is price stability and maximum employment, its true dual mandate is acting as a lender of last resort for the big banks and helping Congress to run deficits.

Since the beginning of the Fed, the U.S. dollar has lost about 96% of its purchasing power. And that is one of the better currencies over the last 100 years.

Even when the central bank took effect in 1914, there was still a quasi-gold standard. And even with Roosevelt outlawing most gold in the U.S. in 1933, dollars were still redeemable in gold by foreign governments until 1971.

Many advocates of the free market are advocates of a gold standard. A true free market would leave it up to the market to decide what type of money to use. But given gold’s history over thousands of years, it is likely the market would choose gold and/ or silver as the main form(s) of money.

The problem right now is that other forms of money are not able to effectively compete with the Federal Reserve’s form or money (U.S. dollars). The Fed has a monopoly over the issuance of legal tender. There are legal tender laws, as well as other complications against gold such as capital gains taxes. These are the laws we should seek to repeal. We should legalize competition.

As technology continues to advance, there are more possible alternatives showing up. Of course, one of the big stories over the last few years is Bitcoin. It is essentially a digital currency, although it is hard to call it a form of money because you still can’t walk into Walmart and pay with bitcoins. There are some businesses that will now accept bitcoins, but it is still not common.

I think one of the major problems with Bitcoin is that it is hard for non-techies to understand it. If you can’t easily explain it in 5 minutes or less, it will be difficult to sell. Bitcoin may stick around and be used on a limited basis for a while to come, but it is hard to imagine that it can come anywhere close to competing with the dollar.

Bitcoin also doesn’t have the history of gold. A crypto-currency that is just a few years old cannot easily compete with something that has been trusted for thousands of years.

For this reason, if anything is going to replace fiat currencies as a main form of money, it is still likely to be gold. Perhaps something like Bitcoin can serve as a complement to it, but gold (and possibly silver) will be the bedrock.

Combining History and Technology

We may now be getting the best of both worlds in the form of a digital currency that is backed by gold. It was inevitable that this would happen, and we can expect more competition to come in this realm.

We are set to see the “tokenization” of gold. DigixGlobal launched a crowdfunding campaign on March 31, 2016 for its new asset called DigixDAO. The “DAO” stands for Decentralized Autonomous Organization.

Basically, it will allow individuals and businesses to use digital gold tokens. These gold tokens will be “minted” into existence only by the purchase of actual gold bars. In other words, these digital tokens will represent actual physical gold that is held in a central location.

The crowdfunding campaign began with a target of $500,000, but it quickly garnered over $5 million and was stopped after just 12 hours. You could say that it was on a few people’s radar.

In some ways, the system is not all that different from the historic gold standard. The U.S. dollar once represented actual gold, but you didn’t have to walk around with gold coins in your pocket. U.S. coins used to be made partially with silver, so they actually were used directly.

These digital gold tokens have the benefit of technology. You can transfer the ownership of these tokens to someone on the other side of the world in seconds. It is almost just like sending gold to the other side of the world almost instantaneously. The tokens represent ownership of the gold, which will hopefully be audited frequently and kept safe and sound. Of course, if there is ever any serious doubt about this, more competition will not be far behind.

Another interesting point is that you will be able to buy small amounts of gold. It will be denominated in as small of an amount as one-thousandth of a gram of gold, which is equal to about 4 cents.

One objection that is frequently recited against the gold standard is that the limited gold supply cannot serve a growing economy. But while the gold supply does increase over time, this limited growth is exactly what we seek. It means your purchasing power will increase as technology and productivity increase.

And with this advanced technology, there is no problem in trading gold that is the equivalent to what are pennies today.

As I said, a digital currency backed by gold was inevitable, and it will continue to grow with competition. It is the wave of the future in terms of competing money.

Just as email, social media, and Amazon have all contributed to putting the Post Office into its last days of existence, we can hope that digital gold will start having the same effect on central banking. Our prosperity depends on it.

http://www.wealthdaily.com/articles/digital-currency-backed-by-gold/8138


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China Says “No Dollars” for New Yuan
By Global Research News
Global Research, April 18, 2016

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by SuperStation95

In a shocking move likely to crush the US economy overnight, China is refusing to make its new gold-backed Yuan, convertible from or to US Dollars. The new Yuan will be introduced next Tuesday, April 19.

When the International Monetary Fund (IMF) agreed to add the Yuan to the basket of world currencies used for Global Reserves and International Trade, they wanted China to make the Yuan more reliable as a currency. Since then, China has almost un-pegged its Yuan from the Dollar, allowing its value to fluctuate on world markets.

But for years, China has been amassing huge amounts of gold bullion; some have said their appetite for bullion has been “staggering.” And with a new gold-backed Yuan to be issued next Tuesday, the entire world will have a choice of a new currency to use for international trade: The old US Dollar which is backed by nothing, or the new Chinese Yuan, which is backed by gold. Which currency would YOU use?

When this new currency is issued, countries that have been forced to use US Dollars for decades, and have had to keep billions of dollars in their foreign currency reserves, will be free to dump those dollars. But they won’t be able to dump them to China for the new gold-backed, Yuan!

China has reportedly decided ”there can be no conversion of gold-backed Yuan to or from US dollars.” What China fears is that many countries around the world will want to trade their reserve US dollars for the new Yuan, leaving China with mountains of worthless US dollars. China already has several trillion in US dollar reserves and does not want or need more.

If news of this decision by China is correct, then countries around the world may just have to decide whether or not they wish to continue trading with the USA at all?

The upheaval this could cause as early as next week, would be staggering.

This is a fast-developing story; check back.


http://www.globalresearch.ca/china-says-no-dollars-for-new-yuan/5520618


 
Retail Recession i can see it, brick and mortar retailers have to contend with 24/7 online ordering from AMAZON and when they roll out the Prime Ordering where you can get items in a few hours then it's curtains all that other shit she was yapping about i could care less.
 

ok.

we'll see...

i hope you're wrong and i'm right. :cool:
I hope I'm wrong too, but this ain't my opinion. Just what I was told last night. But it's not going to be pretty here in the US, am sure it will effect other places as well...
 
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