2015 - 2016 NBA Thread - NBA where amazing happens - all rookie team named!!!

[RoadRage]

Thats the thing though RR, the cavs aint improving; they are what they are; Kyrie and Love stay hurt; Kyrie and LBJ dominate the ball; They still dont use Love right; Love is a defensively liability and so is Irving; LBJ holds the ball to long; No movement on offense; TT is a flippn bum that got paid; Not that good of a bench; Coaching is still suspect; JR is more cold than hot, which has been his mo his whole career; Shumpert is solid on defense but nothing else; their team defense is average at best with Love and Kyrie on the floor at the same time; etc etc

With the Cavs its not about improving, that is unless they want to make a trade, with them its about stop shooting themselves in the feet and being more consistent.. As bad as you guys paint them they played the Spurs close in the gaeme they lost and could have beaten the Warriors during their first match, the beat OKC and still have the record they have... The one game they really looked bad was vs the Warriors, when they shot lights out..
So instead on pointing out the doomsday scenario with the Cavs I think folks need to pay their teams a little bit more attention towards their problems... Because unless your name is Dr. Truth or Largebills, chances are your not a real Warrior fan, and chances are your team has way more problems than the Cavs...
What kills me is the you don't hear Warrior fans shitting on the Cavs the way you hear you guys do... Makes me wonder, hmmmmmm..

 

[Day_Carver]

Im still not sold on the Spurs in the post season. Aldridge's play is too inconsistent and soft, and i believe this is the season age catches up to them. While they have a great record, i see them losing to OKC and GS in a series. I believe their achilles heel will be their guard play, especially at PG as their key players at guard are older now, and as effectice as TD is, hes still 40 and not able to dominate dor extended periods of time. I dont see them making the WCF depending on the draw. I see OKC and GS...

Thats the thing; If you watch Timmy, he struggles to score and he and LA are slow footed on defense; they hide them alot because normally Leonard can stay in front of the top wing player on the opposing team; also they dare teams to shoot the ball and protect the lane; which falls right into what GS wants to do; problem is when they face a OKC or GS, Leonard cant guard everyone; and GS can just attack Parker, LA, Duncan, and Green; Leonard can only guard say Curry; So Thompson can attack, Barnes can attack, and so can Green attack; And Russ is going to kill them once they meet in the series; and in series play, sometimes 2 or 3 players can carry you to victory

 

[Mask]

Thats the thing though RR, the cavs aint improving; they are what they are; Kyrie and Love stay hurt; Kyrie and LBJ dominate the ball; They still dont use Love right; Love is a defensively liability and so is Irving; LBJ holds the ball to long; No movement on offense; TT is a flippn bum that got paid; Not that good of a bench; Coaching is still suspect; JR is more cold than hot, which has been his mo his whole career; Shumpert is solid on defense but nothing else; their team defense is average at best with Love and Kyrie on the floor at the same time; etc etc

Damn...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

With the Cavs its not about improving, that is unless they want to make a trade, with them its about stop shooting themselves in the feet and being more consistent.. As bad as you guys paint them they played the Spurs close in the gaeme they lost and could have beaten the Warriors during their first match, the beat OKC and still have the record they have... The one game they really looked bad was vs the Warriors, when they shot lights out..
So instead on pointing out the doomsday scenario with the Cavs I think folks need to pay their teams a little bit more attention towards their problems... Because unless your name is Dr. Truth or Largebills, chances are your not a real Warrior fan, and chances are your team has way more problems than the Cavs...
What kills me is the you don't hear Warrior fans shitting on the Cavs the way you hear you guys do... Makes me wonder, hmmmmmm..

Here you go with this hyper sensitive shit again Rage, cut that shit out Bruh, its embarrassing.

The Cavs have LeBron who for years was unanimously considered the best player in the league, who made a big proclamation about returning home, etc, has had some troubles and failures recently, while it appears other teams and players have caught up or even surpassed him so obviously this is discussion fodder.... Funny how you claim to not follow teams but get so defensive and tender about the Cavs. If they arent your team, why do you get so tender over them? This is a discussion forum Dude, cut that shit the out for real

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Thats the thing; If you watch Timmy, he struggles to score and he and LA are slow footed on defense; they hide them alot because normally Leonard can stay in front of the top wing player on the opposing team; also they dare teams to shoot the ball and protect the lane; which falls right into what GS wants to do; problem is when they face a OKC or GS, Leonard cant guard everyone; and GS can just attack Parker, LA, Duncan, and Green; Leonard can only guard say Curry; So Thompson can attack, Barnes can attack, and so can Green attack; And Russ is going to kill them once they meet in the series; and in series play, sometimes 2 or 3 players can carry you to victory

Yep, thats why i see what they are doing during the reg season fools gold. That ass whipping GS gave them to me wasnt an anomoly at all, same thing with the Cavs. Both them and SA are uneven as fuck

 

[Day_Carver]

With the Cavs its not about improving, that is unless they want to make a trade, with them its about stop shooting themselves in the feet and being more consistent.. As bad as you guys paint them they played the Spurs close in the gaeme they lost and could have beaten the Warriors during their first match, the beat OKC and still have the record they have... The one game they really looked bad was vs the Warriors, when they shot lights out..
So instead on pointing out the doomsday scenario with the Cavs I think folks need to pay their teams a little bit more attention towards their problems... Because unless your name is Dr. Truth or Largebills, chances are your not a real Warrior fan, and chances are your team has way more problems than the Cavs...
What kills me is the you don't hear Warrior fans shitting on the Cavs the way you hear you guys do... Makes me wonder, hmmmmmm..

Its not doomsday; to me its reality; and im talking about the Cavs in terms of winning the ship; the only team thats coming out of the west, barring injury, is GS; so Im only comparing them to GS; with the team the Cavs have now, they not beating GS; so your analysis dont matter as it relates to that; and GS didnt have Barnes in game; which you and anyone else can see the difference when hes there; It doesnt matter what the Cavs do or how they play, they not beating GS; But the Cavs are inconsistent; part of that is mentality and play; but at the end of the day, LBJ reign as far as rings is over, unless something very unexpected happens

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Tanking for Simmons!

Next stop the kings

 

[RoadRage]

Here you go with this hyper sensitive shit again Rage, cut that shit out Bruh, its embarrassing.

The Cavs have LeBron who for years was unanimously considered the best player in the league, who made a big proclamation about returning home, etc, has had some troubles and failures recently, while it appears other teams and players have caught up or even surpassed him so obviously this is discussion fodder.... Funny how you claim to not follow teams but get so defensive and tender about the Cavs. If they arent your team, why do you get so tender over them? This is a discussion forum Dude, cut that shit the out for real

If you lose its a loss not a fucken failure.. A failure is not making the playoffs or losing in the first round...
Ever notice when Bird lost to the Lakers they never called it a failure, ever notice when Elway lost to Doug Williams they never called it a failure, notice when any white player loses its a fucken loss, but when a black player like LeBron loses a game, all of a sudden it becomes a big failure...
Please save that shit for the salty CAC!!!

 

[Day_Carver]

Yep, thats why i see what they are doing during the reg season fools gold. That ass whipping GS gave them to me wasnt an anomoly at all, same thing with the Cavs. Both them and SA are uneven as fuck

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Its not doomsday; to me its reality; and im talking about the Cavs in terms of winning the ship; the only team thats coming out of the west, barring injury, is GS; so Im only comparing them to GS; with the team the Cavs have now, they not beating GS; so your analysis dont matter as it relates to that; and GS didnt have Barnes in game; which you and anyone else can see the difference when hes there; It doesnt matter what the Cavs do or how they play, they not beating GS; But the Cavs are inconsistent; part of that is mentality and play; but at the end of the day, LBJ reign as far as rings is over, unless something very unexpected happens

To a man the Cavs fail in damn near every matchup with GS and even LeBrons amazing performance in the finals last year was smoke and mirrors because he had to do so much but thats not when hes at his most effective and he doesnt have the support around him to not have to play that way even with Kyrie and Love healthy...

 

[Day_Carver]

Tanking for Simmons!

Next stop the kings

LA should have been doing that all along; Signing all these veterans was stupid to begin with; Get a top pick, now you have 4 young players; and build it; hopefully they develop and go from there; should be solid in 3 years...

 

[RoadRage]

Its not doomsday; to me its reality; and im talking about the Cavs in terms of winning the ship; the only team thats coming out of the west, barring injury, is GS; so Im only comparing them to GS; with the team the Cavs have now, they not beating GS; so your analysis dont matter as it relates to that; and GS didnt have Barnes in game; which you and anyone else can see the difference when hes there; It doesnt matter what the Cavs do or how they play, they not beating GS; But the Cavs are inconsistent; part of that is mentality and play; but at the end of the day, LBJ reign as far as rings is over, unless something very unexpected happens

Ok Soothsayer, you convinced me you have ESP!!! Wait, did you just give G.S. a pass because they didn't have Barns yet the Cavs had no excuses for not having Kyrie and Love last year???
Well I guess your better at ESP than with actual logic in the here and now...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

If you lose its a loss not a fucken failure.. A failure is not making the playoffs or losing in the first round...
Ever notice when Bird lost to the Lakers they never called it a failure, ever notice when Elway lost to Doug Williams they never called it a failure, notice when any white player loses its a fucken loss, but when a black player like LeBron loses a game, all of a sudden it becomes a big failure...
Please save that shit for the salty CAC!!!

See what I mean Dude... All i typed, you TAKE ONE WORD and get all emotional and tender about it.... Look at this post and compare it to the flow of your other post...

Cut it the fuck out Dude, no need to blow a gasket getting all tender Bruh. If you dont view it as a failure cool, I do and Im not a CAC. Please explain to me how viewing LeBron and the Cavs failure last year as being defined as CAC logic?
And calm down Bruh, Im not cursing in my responses to you Im being very respectful. No need for all the high strung theatrics Dude...

 

[Day_Carver]

If you lose its a loss not a fucken failure.. A failure is not making the playoffs or losing in the first round...
Ever notice when Bird lost to the Lakers they never called it a failure, ever notice when Elway lost to Doug Williams they never called it a failure, notice when any white player loses its a fucken loss, but when a black player like LeBron loses a game, all of a sudden it becomes a big failure...
Please save that shit for the salty CAC!!!

I agree with you on this...but thats it

 

[Day_Carver]

Ok Soothsayer, you convinced me you have ESP!!! Wait, did you just give G.S. a pass because they didn't have Barns yet the Cavs had no excuses for not having Kyrie and Love last year???
Well I guess your better at ESP than with actual logic in the here and now...

No not giving them a pass; they still won; im just saying they are more dominant with Barnes; and people keep bringing up Love and Irving; trot that lineup out against GS if you want to; Im not a soothsayer, im just saying we have a large enough sample size to see what the Cavs really are; Just like we do with GS and Spurs and OKC, etc etc etc...

 

[RoadRage]

See what I mean Dude... All i typed, you TAKE ONE WORD and get all emotional and tender about it.... Look at this post and compare it to the flow of your other post...

Cut it the fuck out Dude, no need to blow a gasket getting all tender Bruh. If you dont view it as a failure cool, I do and Im not a CAC. Please explain to me how viewing LeBron and the Cavs failure last year as being defined as CAC logic?
And calm down Bruh, Im not cursing in my responses to you Im being very respectful. No need for all the high strung theatrics Dude...

You check my past post, say this about every black player, not just the Cavs or LeBron!!! This is the main reason I no longer watch ESPN to me thats like a black woman paying money for a magazine like Vogue that features nothing but white models... What kills me is seeing black people buy that bullshit and try to present that shit to black folks who know better, as if they are dropping a gem on them..

 

[Day_Carver]

Ok Soothsayer, you convinced me you have ESP!!! Wait, did you just give G.S. a pass because they didn't have Barns yet the Cavs had no excuses for not having Kyrie and Love last year???
Well I guess your better at ESP than with actual logic in the here and now...

And let me say one more thing about Love and Irving; they are defensive liabilities; whether you agree or not, they are; TT is a bum also, BUM!!!!!!; GS has every single advantage against the Cavs except for LBJ; which GS does a solid job neutralizing LBJ somewhat; If a team has every advantage except 1 against another team, well shouldnt that team beat the other team consistently???

 

[RoadRage]

No not giving them a pass; they still won; im just saying they are more dominant with Barnes; and people keep bringing up Love and Irving; trot that lineup out against GS if you want to; Im not a soothsayer, im just saying we have a large enough sample size to see what the Cavs really are; Just like we do with GS and Spurs and OKC, etc etc etc...

What team do you root for again???? Maybe this can explain your obsession....

 

[Day_Carver]

What team do you root for again???? Maybe this can explain your obsession....

You have an obsession for the Cavs or should i say LBJ; I have an obsession for good basketball; I like seeing great bball play; to me is beautiful when its played the right way; and there are many right ways to play; I like the way the Spurs played a few years ago; the heat played; GS play now; I dont root for GS; I do like Steph because he dominates and hes doing things ive never seen before; My favorite player ever was Iverson; but im not about to say he was better than MJ because of that; so I can be un bias; I just like seeing good ball; U sir just dont want to admit that the Cavs aint beating GS no matter what...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You check my past post, say this about every black player, not just the Cavs or LeBron!!! This is the main reason I no longer watch ESPN to me thats like a black woman paying money for a magazine like Vogue that features nothing but white models... What kills me is seeing black people buy that bullshit and try to present that shit to black folks who know better, as if they are dropping a gem on them..

Ok, well ive actually spoken my opinion in this way about black and white players Bruh. From posts about Melo being overrated to Aaron Rodgers so Im not slanted by color in my assessments Bruh. And everybody isnt influenced by ESPN either, so that generalization is off balance as well.

Also, i never see you get this tender when someone points out issues with other black players, so why do you get so tender over LeBron?

Lastly, what is the objective of every player and team orbat least should be the objective at the start of the season? To win a chip right? So, if a team doesnt win the chip... Is it not correct to say they 'failed' to do so?

Duncan, Durant, Paul, Butler, Dirk, Gasol, all 'failed' in their attempts to win the chip last year.... As did LeBron suffer through failure in his attempt... How is this CAC logic Bruh

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

You check my past post, say this about every black player, not just the Cavs or LeBron!!! This is the main reason I no longer watch ESPN to me thats like a black woman paying money for a magazine like Vogue that features nothing but white models... What kills me is seeing black people buy that bullshit and try to present that shit to black folks who know better, as if they are dropping a gem on them..

Dude, you NEVER get this passionate or tender about any other player except LeBron. You went on a 24 hour straight non stop posting binge about LeBron his last year with the Heat which was epic Bruh...

 

[RoadRage]

Ok, well ive actually spoken my opinion in this way about black and white players Bruh. From posts about Melo being overrated to Aaron Rodgers so Im not slanted by color in my assessments Bruh. And everybody isnt influenced by ESPN either, so that generalization is off balance as well.

Also, i never see you get this tender when someone points out issues with other black players, so why do you get so tender over LeBron?

Lastly, what is the objective of every player and team orbat least should be the objective at the start of the season? To win a chip right? So, if a team doesnt win the chip... Is it not correct to say they 'failed' to do so?

Duncan, Durant, Paul, Butler, Dirk, Gasol, all 'failed' in their attempts to win the chip last year.... As did LeBron suffer through failure in his attempt... How is this CAC logic Bruh

First of all I don't like your use of the word tender, I only use tender to refer to my meat and my pussy, saying it to a guy you don't know sounds like your on some other shit...
And yes the objective may to win the championship, your not a failure for not winning point blank, its like taking a test, where you may not have gotten the high score you sort to get, but the only ones who truely failed were the ones who failed the test...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

First of all I don't like your use of the word tender, I only use tender to refer to my meat and my pussy, saying it to a guy you don't know sounds like your on some other shit...
And yes the objective may to win the championship, your not a failure for not winning point blank, its like taking a test, where you may not have gotten the high score you sort to get, but the only ones who truely failed were the ones who failed the test...

I sincerely apologize if i offended you with the use of the word tender. No disrespect intended and lets say I will just the term 'upset' forthwith...

That being said, the comparison of taking a test where there is a range to gauge the test from pass to fail is inadequate when used as a way to cop a plea concerning LeBrons failure last season. When the objective is to win ONE trophy and your team falls short in that objective, they failed to do so so that season overall was a failure. They had a good season but overall failed in their objective. Unfortunately for them, this is basketball not horseshoes...

 

[RoadRage]

I sincerely apologize if i offended you with the use of the word tender. No disrespect intended and lets say I will just the term 'upset' forthwith...

That being said, the comparison of taking a test where there is a range to gauge the test from pass to fail is inadequate when used as a way to cop a plea concerning LeBrons failure last season. When the objective is to win ONE trophy and your team falls short in that objective, they failed to do so so that season overall was a failure. They had a good season but overall failed in their objective. Unfortunately for them, this is basketball not horseshoes...

The thing is, I don't get emotional over games like some of you guys... The only thing I get upset or heated about is when people try to get on black players extra hard, while constantly giving white players a pass..
I bet you if the Broncos lose, there will not be the same reaction and insulting LeBron would get when his team lost... You see, its not them losing that bothers me one bit, its the over reaction by the white press and the people who follow them, that I have a problem with...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

The thing is, I don't get emotional over games like some of you guys... The only thing I get upset or heated about is when people try to get on black players extra hard, while constantly giving white players a pass..
I bet you if the Broncos lose, there will not be the same reaction and insulting LeBron would get when his team lost... You see, its not them losing that bothers me one bit, its the over reaction by the white press and the people who follow them, that I have a problem with...

Unfirtunately im not overly fixated on what the white press does so Im not so emotionally moved my them and dont give them any power over my thoughts. For you to atrack a brother becauae he disagrees with your assessment and then disrespect his character calling him CAC like is wrong and disrespectful too Bruh...

I call failure failure regardless of color or what the consesus says, and in my opinion anybody other than the GS organization had a failure of a season last year, no pleas copping involved...

Not sure who gets 'emotional' over games either, not sure who you were referencing

 

[RoadRage]

Unfirtunately im not overly fixated on what the white press does so Im not so emotionally moved my them and dont give them any power over my thoughts. For you to atrack a brother becauae he disagrees with your assessment and then disrespect his character calling him CAC like is wrong and disrespectful too Bruh...

I call failure failure regardless of color or what the consesus says, and in my opinion anybody other than the GS organization had a failure of a season last year, no pleas copping involved...

Not sure who gets 'emotional' over games either, not sure who you were referencing

Ok I'm going to say this then quit, show me where I attacked you or any other brother...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Ok I'm going to say this then quit, show me where I attacked you or any other brother...

Didnt say you attacked per se, but quite a few times when we have difference of opinion you attack. Case in point in the past 24 hours you said: i think like a CAC, Im a troll and Im a Lamper... All because I disagree with you on some things.... Now, if thats not attacking i dont know what is so please enlighten me Bruh, especially when Ive never disrespected you chief

 

[RoadRage]

Didnt say you attacked per se, but quite a few times when we have difference of opinion you attack. Case in point in the past 24 hours you said: i think like a CAC, Im a troll and Im a Lamper... All because I disagree with you on some things.... Now, if thats not attacking i dont know what is so please enlighten me Bruh, especially when Ive never disrespected you chief

I said you act like you act like a troll at times due to the way you flip flop on issues and how you say things for effect.. I also called you a lamper because you like to turn up the emotions...
These are my assessment on your action not an attack on your character... Notice I always use the words acting like and never the words you are... I even rounded things up bay acknowledging that its part of your shtick and left it at that...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I said you act like you act like a troll at times due to the way you flip flop on issues and how you say things for effect.. I also called you a lamper because you like to turn up the emotions...
These are my assessment on your action not an attack on your character... Notice I always use the words acting like and never the words you are... I even rounded things up bay acknowledging that its part of your shtick and left it at that...

Funny thing is, people have a right to their opinions so if i change my mind, and you dont agree with it that makes me troll like? Play on words Dude but the same thing. Also, give me examples of me flip flopping? I seriously want to know exactly what you are referring to which causes me to be troll like in your opinion....

Also, because we dont see eye to eye, I have a 'schtick'... Didnt know the world has to revolve around YOUR opinions Bruh, now i know... i guess

And as far as turning up the emotions find me one post especially in this thread where ive done that. Actually a few posts back YOU were the one fucking this and fucking that all upset.... But I'M the Lamper?! You are throwing stones in a glass house with that assessment Bruh

 

[RoadRage]

Funny thing is, people have a right to their opinions so if i change my mind, and you dont agree with it that makes me troll like? Play on words Dude but the same thing. Also, give me examples of me flip flopping? I seriously want to know exactly what you are referring to which causes me to be troll like in your opinion....

And as far as turning up the emotions find me one post especially in this thread where ive done that. Actually a few posts back YOU were the one fucking this and fucking that all upset.... But I'M the Lamper?! You are throwing stones in a glass house with that assessment Bruh

I said at times your like a troll, trying to stir things up just for the sake of evoking some sort of emotional reaction.. Trust me if I thought you was actually a troll I would have put you on iggy a long time ago...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

I said at times your like a troll, trying to stir things up just for the sake of evoking some sort of emotional reaction.. Trust me if I thought you was actually a troll I would have put you on iggy a long time ago...

Again, so if i disagree with you Im trying to 'stir things up'? I cant just not agree with you you are saying huh?

 

[RoadRage]

Oh and calling me a lamper, is ok, I have no problems with that, but instead of turning up the emotions I try to turn up people sense of reasoning... If you really want to get at me you have to do it with logic and reason, all that other shit I am going to call you out on....

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Oh and calling me a lamper, is ok, I have no problems with that, but instead of turning up the emotions I try to turn up people sense of reasoning... If you really want to get at me you have to do it with logic and reason, all that other shit I am going to call you out on....

I didnt call you a lamper, i jist asked you to point out specifically where ive gotten emotional as you said a few posts back, especially with you directly. And you talk about logic and reason, yet when disagreed with you project and label with negative descriptions and names... What part of the logic and reason dynamic does that fall under?

 

[RoadRage]

I didnt call you a lamper, i jist asked you to point out specifically where ive gotten emotional as you said a few posts back, especially with you directly. And you talk about logic and reason, yet when disagreed with you project and label with negative descriptions and names... What part of the logic and reason dynamic does that fall under?

Never said you did, I just there is nothing wrong with being one...

 

[IT IS WHAT IT IS]

Never said you did, I just there is nothing wrong with being one...

Cool, now what about this part, there were a couple of questions embedded in here you may have missed

"I just asked you to point out specifically where ive gotten emotional as you said a few posts back, especially with you directly. And you talk about logic and reason, yet when disagreedwith you project and label with negative descriptions and names... What part of the logic and reason dynamic does that fall under? "