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No they gave Iggy the MVP because LBJ was horrible from an efficient stand point; Anybody can score 30 if they take 30 shots; Dude You are a CAVS homer real talk; Im not a GS fan, Im a fan of basketball; And in no way did Della do anything to stop Curry; He was pressing and it showed; once he relaxed lights out; And you keep thinking this and that about the Cavs; when they get baked again this year in the finals; I dont wanna here nothing but its a wrap, thats it; You couldnt even give a simple yes or no on Irving getting hurt or not; Dude you pulled me in You Fucker:lol::lol:; Im going to R Thomas to get some food and going over this chick house Ill holla at you...
James was tired as hell during the game and this effects your efficentcy, basically they did to him what the Cavs are now able to do to Steph and Thomson, that is they rotated two high energy guys on James, A.I and Green... What they did was play on James for 12 mins then tag in the next guy.. This is a very effective stratagy vs a player who has to play heavy mins for the team to win...
Now this year, if the Cavs are healthy the Cavs are training not to depend on James while rotating their bench in particularly their guards in order to get ready for the Warriors..
If you are a fan or one of those dopes that turn to ESPN for information, this shit will fly over your head... But if you know the game you will realize that the Cavs are preparing themselvs for the match up vs the Warriors by stressing on developing things that should give the Warriors problems...
 
Think about it this way, the Cavs have Irving and Delly vs Curry and Livinganston...
Then they have Shumpert and JR vs Klay
Then they have Love and T.T. and LeBron vs Green and A.I..
Now lets do the math... In order for Curry and Livingston to beat the Cavs pg's lets say Curry scores 30 and Livingston 10 all Irving has to do is score 25 and Delly 12 and then the Warriors are up 2.
Now if Klay scores 22 and JR scores 15 and Shump scores 12 the Cavs are up 3
If green scores 25 and A.I. scores 12 and LeBron scores 30, Thompson scores 12 and Love 15 well you can start to see how this match up may not favor the Warriors with Curry scoring under 30 pts...
Of course there are other players to consider and the actual execution on the court.... But for the reasons that I just pointed out, a healthy Cavs team match up very well vs the Warriors..
 
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You didn't read the first part to which l responded... They said that Steph don't have to play defense vs Irving and Delly, and I said if he doesn't he will get ate up... No way your going to go against Irving and not expect to play defense and think he won't go off.
 
Same thing can be said about Irving, if he isn't willing to play defense vs Curry, he too will get ate up....
 
They gave Iguodala the mvp because they had to give it to somebody on the winning team......

Jordan won mvps in the finals with low efficiency numbers but his team won so he got it.....

anyhow thats all I am saying on that

Are yall still allowing the bulls to fool you again this year? How many times before yall learn
 
Billy King is one of the worst GMs ever; I dont understand why he keeps getting jobs; dude suck when he was in philly also

Agreed. Talent scout at best but I'll say this about his tenure with us as GM; his decisions were not all his. Our owners business partner forced the splashy moves to bring interest in Brooklyn. Ended up fucking us in the long run.

Hollins had to go, the game is past him.
 
Naw they not...folks know what they are capable of...the 4-2 in the finals and was healthy showed a lot....

To me the Cavs stand a better chance at beating the Spurs, than the Warriors.

Golden State best two players are the worst kinda of guys for opposing teams. What's that(anybody can answer)?
 
Naw they not...folks know what they are capable of...the 4-2 in the finals and was healthy showed a lot....

To me the Cavs stand a better chance at beating the Spurs, than the Warriors.

Golden State best two players are the worst kinda of guys for opposing teams. What's that(anybody can answer)?
One big advantage the Warriors have over the Cavs is that they are so consistent and even on their bad games you have to bring your A game if you want to stand a chance..
The Cavs on the other hand, relies so much on hustle and energy level in order to compete... As the result they are not nearly as consistant as the Warriors... So even though they do match up well vs the Warriors, the biggest problem the Cavs have is are they able to bring their A game for 4 games vs the Warriors..
Vs the Spurs the CAvs can actually get away with beating them playing a sub par game, same can be said about the Spurs vs the Cavs also, but I think its safe to assume that the Warriors would be a harder match up for both the Cavs and the Spurs...
 
They gave Iguodala the mvp because they had to give it to somebody on the winning team......

Jordan won mvps in the finals with low efficiency numbers but his team won so he got it.....

anyhow thats all I am saying on that

Are yall still allowing the bulls to fool you again this year? How many times before yall learn
Has OKC WON ANYTHING?
 
One big advantage the Warriors have over the Cavs is that they are so consistent and even on their bad games you have to bring your A game if you want to stand a chance..
The Cavs on the other hand, relies so much on hustle and energy level in order to compete... As the result they are not nearly as consistant as the Warriors... So even though they do match up well vs the Warriors, the biggest problem the Cavs have is are they able to bring their A game for 4 games vs the Warriors..
Vs the Spurs the CAvs can actually get away with beating them playing a sub par game, same can be said about the Spurs vs the Cavs also, but I think its safe to assume that the Warriors would be a harder match up for both the Cavs and the Spurs...



Thats pretty fair...

The key element I was alluding to is, the warriors best 2 players are high energy players that bring it nightly.
That's shit makes it hard to deal with, inside and outside...
 
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Kyrie Irving admits he's still working his way back to form


DALLAS -- As Kyrie Irving prepared to play the 10th game of his comeback after being sidelined for nearly 6½ months following surgery to repair a fractured left kneecap, he wanted to express his appreciation for a couple of his teammates on the Cleveland Cavaliers for holding down the fort in his absence.

“Kev and Bron have done an unbelievable job of leading the team for, basically, I’ve played in nine games so the … 26 other games I didn’t play in,” Irving said of Kevin Love andLeBron James after the Cavs held practice at the Mo Williams Academy on Monday. “So, you know, I just try to kind of just fit in. But also there are games where they’re telling me, ‘Come on, be aggressive. Come on, be yourself.’

“And then I just have to find that balance that we had last year where we had that continuity between the three of us and then it trickles down throughout the team because when we’re all clicking, man, it just opens up so many other opportunities for other people.”

The Cavs’ big three adopted a new workout routine prior to Cleveland’s game in Minnesota last week, with the trio showing up early to the team’s morning shootaround session to go through drills together. Irving said it was the first time he, James and Love had collaborated like that all season and he hopes it will continue.

“I know that all three of us share our own work ethic in what we do to prepare for games and what we do in our spare time in order to get prepared (either) the night before or I’m usually there either the night before or the day of,” Irving said. “And I know Bron does an incredible job of getting extra shots up all the time.

“So, for us, all three of us being the leaders of the team, it can only be positive. It was a big-time game for Kev that night and we all felt it. So, him coming in early, hopefully it can show some consistency with all three of us.

“It’s good to see all of us coming in and getting extra work in.”

Irving started off the Cavs’ current six-game road trip with a big-time game of his own, scoring 32 points on 14-of-22 shooting during a win in Washington. The two games that have followed produced the same result for the team -- Cleveland beat Minnesota and Philadelphia to extend their winning streak to seven games heading into Tuesday’s showdown in Dallas -- but have been a bit of a rough patch for Irving personally. He scored just 21 points on 8-for-27 shooting (2-for-9 from 3) combined against the Wolves and Sixers.

Asked if he still is working his way back to form, Irving said, “I am. I know I am. But it’s not hovering over the team. And I would never allow it to. There are things that I still have to figure out, but it’s still within the framework of the team. And that’s the way I want it to be.”

The Cavs will play the San Antonio Spurs on Thursday, an occasion that will surely conjure up memories of Irving scoring a career-high 57 points last season -- the most ever by a visiting player at the AT&T Center. But he insists he isn’t putting pressure on himself to make a bevy of buckets every night.

“The games are going to be different,” Irving said. “It’s not every night I’m looking to score 32, or have the ‘unbelievable’ game. That’s not what I’m looking to do. Whatever my team needs me to do going into those four quarters, however many minutes I play, I’m going to do. Every game can’t be like Washington, as much as we would love it to. But as professionals, that’s why it’s a team. It’s a team sport. You let that selfishness go and just do whatever is best.”

Irving said people close to him try to give him perspective, reminding him that he made his season debut about three weeks ago, so he essentially still is going through training camp. Yet he can’t help but want more.

“I just put so much expectations on myself when I go out there, it feels like there’s a lot of ground that I have to make up and a lot more that I have to prove to myself more or less” Irving said. “When you miss the game for seven months and then you come back, it’s just like, ‘I’ve got to make every shot.’ Like, I have to play well every game.

“For me, it’s just about progressing. And, damn, still going 3-for-15 (against Philadelphia) sucks. But at the end of the day, we’re still winning.”
 
LeBron James credits a damning but accurate tweet for his hot play


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On Sunday in a surprisingly close win over the Philadelphia 76ers, LeBron James tied his season high with 37 points. His Cavaliers have won six consecutive games, and not only has James hit for 43 percent of his three-pointers during that spell, he’s hit for nearly 58 percent from the floor while making over half of his shots from the midrange.
Those are sound numbers. Potent numbers. The numbers that came before that, up until the hours before the team’s win over Denver on Dec. 29, weren’t as pretty. You’ve no doubt seen this tweet:




James no doubt saw the tweet, which most of us presumed was inspiration behind the hot shooting streak that followed. On Sunday night, LeBron confirmed as much. In a talk with Chris Haynes at the Cleveland Plain Dealer (via Pro Basketball Talk):

“I actually saw [it] on my Instagram feed that I was the worst-shooting player in the NBA," James said. "I actually saw that when I woke up from a nap. I remember exactly when that was. Denver. Right before the Denver game, so I answered the call."

[…]

"I've played in a lot of big games in my career. I've seen it all and I've always just tried to stay even-keel," James said. "They look at me as the leader of this team and I have to be that way all year round.”

LBJ, famously and intelligently, picks and chooses when to go all out. He’s played deep into June six times in his career, deep into May four other times, he’s spent the bulk of his offseason with Team USA five different times and he’s been in the league since he was 18. By all sensible predictions, he’ll be playing deep into June again this season.

This was supposed to be the time of year James dialed back. He took an extended break last season from Dec. 30 until Jan. 11, and it was assumed that the same pattern would follow this year. LeBron would go out over the first two months of 2015-16 and kill it with Kevin Love recovering and Kyrie Irving possibly out until late December, then dial back as two-former All-Stars returned to full health.

Instead, he’s playing his best basketball of the season at the same time he took a needed break last year. Part of this inspiration likely has to do with his goal to play as close to all 82 games as he can, but part of that also had to be the realization that his outside stroke was broken for two months.

As in, “league-leading, broken.”


At some point in a campaign “early-season struggles” (shooting percentages for most players tend to start slow and rise as the year moves along) turn into “a trend worth following.” And even for someone as mindful as LeBron, it’s easy to lose sight of how the season is rolling along; suddenly it’s nearly the New Year and nobody thinks you can shoot any more. There was legitimate concern that lo these many years of heavy minutes and big shots had taken its toll, even if James was still scoring efficiently and playing MVP-styled (if not “MVP-winning”) ball overall.

Hot licks and rhetoric don’t count much for nothin’ in January, especially with games featuring four different future lottery participants making up the bulk of that Cleveland winning streak. Still, you know James not only saw Schuhmann’s tweet, but also saw what was coming up following Sunday’s road game in Philly.

Dallas, Houston, San Antonio. All in Texas. Then, on Monday, the team’s final regular season game of the year against the champion Golden State Warriors (a squad that could be 39-2 at that point). And Cleveland still has a contest with the white-hot Clippers and their chief Eastern rival from Chicago left before the month is through.

Again, James was having a fantastic year prior to the tweet despite shooting just 28 percent from outside the paint, but it certainly now helps that he isn’t leaning back or fading left on his jumpers as much over this streak, and the results are what you’d expect.

It wouldn’t be right to also expect LeBron to keep this up – he’s a career 34 percent three-point shooter, for instance, and shot a below-league average 35 percent last year – but in warming news the typical athletic hallmarks (rebound rate, block rate, steal rate, free throws per minute) are just about in line with his career marks, even at an old 31-years of age.

LeBron James has already passed his toughest test of the year so far – getting that jumper back on track. Now he’s about to face down perhaps his toughest regular season test of 2015-16: The Texas Triangle, followed by a chance to give Golden State perhaps its third loss since June 9. That was the night LeBron James scored 40 points with 12 rebounds, eight assists, four steals and two blocks.

He also shot like crap that night – missing 20 of 34 from the field and four of six threes. Maybe get back to clanging a few next week, LeBron. It appears to be the only thing that beats the Warriors.

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LeBron James credits a damning but accurate tweet for his hot play


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On Sunday in a surprisingly close win over the Philadelphia 76ers, LeBron James tied his season high with 37 points. His Cavaliers have won six consecutive games, and not only has James hit for 43 percent of his three-pointers during that spell, he’s hit for nearly 58 percent from the floor while making over half of his shots from the midrange.
Those are sound numbers. Potent numbers. The numbers that came before that, up until the hours before the team’s win over Denver on Dec. 29, weren’t as pretty. You’ve no doubt seen this tweet:




James no doubt saw the tweet, which most of us presumed was inspiration behind the hot shooting streak that followed. On Sunday night, LeBron confirmed as much. In a talk with Chris Haynes at the Cleveland Plain Dealer (via Pro Basketball Talk):

“I actually saw [it] on my Instagram feed that I was the worst-shooting player in the NBA," James said. "I actually saw that when I woke up from a nap. I remember exactly when that was. Denver. Right before the Denver game, so I answered the call."

[…]

"I've played in a lot of big games in my career. I've seen it all and I've always just tried to stay even-keel," James said. "They look at me as the leader of this team and I have to be that way all year round.”

LBJ, famously and intelligently, picks and chooses when to go all out. He’s played deep into June six times in his career, deep into May four other times, he’s spent the bulk of his offseason with Team USA five different times and he’s been in the league since he was 18. By all sensible predictions, he’ll be playing deep into June again this season.

This was supposed to be the time of year James dialed back. He took an extended break last season from Dec. 30 until Jan. 11, and it was assumed that the same pattern would follow this year. LeBron would go out over the first two months of 2015-16 and kill it with Kevin Love recovering and Kyrie Irving possibly out until late December, then dial back as two-former All-Stars returned to full health.

Instead, he’s playing his best basketball of the season at the same time he took a needed break last year. Part of this inspiration likely has to do with his goal to play as close to all 82 games as he can, but part of that also had to be the realization that his outside stroke was broken for two months.

As in, “league-leading, broken.”


At some point in a campaign “early-season struggles” (shooting percentages for most players tend to start slow and rise as the year moves along) turn into “a trend worth following.” And even for someone as mindful as LeBron, it’s easy to lose sight of how the season is rolling along; suddenly it’s nearly the New Year and nobody thinks you can shoot any more. There was legitimate concern that lo these many years of heavy minutes and big shots had taken its toll, even if James was still scoring efficiently and playing MVP-styled (if not “MVP-winning”) ball overall.

Hot licks and rhetoric don’t count much for nothin’ in January, especially with games featuring four different future lottery participants making up the bulk of that Cleveland winning streak. Still, you know James not only saw Schuhmann’s tweet, but also saw what was coming up following Sunday’s road game in Philly.

Dallas, Houston, San Antonio. All in Texas. Then, on Monday, the team’s final regular season game of the year against the champion Golden State Warriors (a squad that could be 39-2 at that point). And Cleveland still has a contest with the white-hot Clippers and their chief Eastern rival from Chicago left before the month is through.

Again, James was having a fantastic year prior to the tweet despite shooting just 28 percent from outside the paint, but it certainly now helps that he isn’t leaning back or fading left on his jumpers as much over this streak, and the results are what you’d expect.

It wouldn’t be right to also expect LeBron to keep this up – he’s a career 34 percent three-point shooter, for instance, and shot a below-league average 35 percent last year – but in warming news the typical athletic hallmarks (rebound rate, block rate, steal rate, free throws per minute) are just about in line with his career marks, even at an old 31-years of age.

LeBron James has already passed his toughest test of the year so far – getting that jumper back on track. Now he’s about to face down perhaps his toughest regular season test of 2015-16: The Texas Triangle, followed by a chance to give Golden State perhaps its third loss since June 9. That was the night LeBron James scored 40 points with 12 rebounds, eight assists, four steals and two blocks.

He also shot like crap that night – missing 20 of 34 from the field and four of six threes. Maybe get back to clanging a few next week, LeBron. It appears to be the only thing that beats the Warriors.

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Motivation...
 
Cavaliers send Joe Harris to Magic, save on luxury tax penalties
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DALLAS -- The Cleveland Cavalierstraded guard Joe Harris to the Orlando Magic on Tuesday in a move that could save the Cavs, on pace to have the second-highest payroll in league history, nearly $3 million in luxury tax penalties.

The Cavs sent Harris, cash considerations and the Sacramento Kings' 2017 protected second-round pick to the Magic in exchange for thePortland Trail Blazers' protected 2020 second-round pick, the team announced on Tuesday.

Harris underwent successful surgery in Indianapolis on Tuesday to remove a bone in his right foot. His recovery is expected to sideline him for the rest of the season. A league source told ESPN.com the Magic plan to waive Harris, selected with the No. 33 pick in the 2014 draft.

Both picks involved in the deal are top-55 protected. Cleveland gave $1 million in the swap but will still stand to save $2.9 million in salary and tax fees should it keep its roster as is. However, with 14 players on the roster, the Cavs will likely be a top destination for veterans receiving contract buyouts in the coming months. Opening up a roster spot also gives the Cavs flexibility to use one of the two trade exceptions they have in their coffers, which are worth $10.5 million and $2.8 million.

After averaging 2.7 points and shooting 36.9 percent from 3-point range in 9.7 minutes per game as a rookie while making one start, Harris played in only five games his second year, averaging 0.6 points on 25 percent shooting in just 3.0 minutes of playing time.

Jared Cunningham's contract, committing nearly $4 million in salary and tax to keep him.

Much like last season, when he made a pair of deals with New York andOklahoma City that took the league by surprise, Cavs general manager David Griffin arranged the trade with Orlando in mid-January, kicking off this year's NBA trade season approximately five weeks before the trade deadline of Feb. 18.
 
Carmelo Anthony leaves game vs. Celtics after spraining right ankle




NEW YORK -- Knicks forward Carmelo Anthony left Tuesday's game against theBoston Celtics early in the third quarter with a right ankle sprain.

X-rays on the ankle were negative, according to the team.

Anthony, 31, initially suffered the injury with 1:20 to play in the second quarter when he rolled his ankle on the foot of referee Steve Anderson while running back on defense.

Anthony was taken out of the game at the time. He returned to the court to start the second half but left the floor just 20 seconds into the quarter in obvious pain.

Anthony had scored 17 points in 18 minutes before departing. His availability for Wednesday's game against the Brooklyn Netsis unclear at this point.

The Knicks (19-20) would be missing their No. 1 option on offense if Anthony misses Wednesday's contest. He entered play Tuesday averaging 21.7 points, 6.1 rebounds and 3.8 assists per game.
 
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Keep in mind, other that Curry, Kire when healthy is the 2nd hardest guard in the league to guard, and Delly moves so dam much that he causes you to burn so much energy... Trust me Steph and Thompson will have their hands full vs a healthy Cavs..
Teams worry about Delly? Is this nigga serious?
 
Derrick Rose leaves the game with leg injury

Any time Derrick Rose takes even a half second longer to get up from the ground than usual Bulls fans start to fear the worst. Those fears were brought up all over again Tuesday night during the Bulls game against the Bucks.

Late in the second quarter, Rose left the game for the bench. When the team came back on the court before the third quarter, the team was already aware Rose had a pain in his leg.

Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien


Rose told the Bulls trainer about the knee right before 3rd quarter. Got it worked on before play started but was clearly in some pain.

9:33 PM - 12 Jan 2016

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Rose looks a little ginger on his left leg. Trying to walk it off. Received treatment at the half but clearly something’s wrong

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Rose would go on to miss the entire third quarter. During most of the quarter, fans were left wondering just what was wrong with their point guard. With a few minutes left in the third, news was finally released. All things considered, it was good.

Chuck Garfien @ChuckGarfien


From Bulls: Left patella tendon tendinitis for Rose. He's questionable to return.

9:51 PM - 12 Jan 2016

The former MVP remained on the bench the entire game, never needing to go to the locker room for treatment. At one point, Rose was seen on the stationary bike.

In the 20 minutes Rose was able to play, he put up nine points with three assists and a steal. In his place, Kirk Hinrich and Aaron Brooks combined for eight points, all coming from Brooks.

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